LoT: Killzone 2 vs Crysis 2. Killzone 2 wins

I have a PS3, 360 and a gaming PC.

I played the 360 demo, and I wasn't that impressed.

IMO killoze 2 had better textures, lightning, animation and effects.

I think Lens of Truth nailed it.

And you guys keep forgetting Killzone 2 is two years old, and it's still holding up to be one of the best looking console game this gen.

I'll be getting Crysis 2 on PC, hopefully it surpasses Crysis 1.

[QUOTE="CorbraMax"]

Anyone notice how LOT avoided using this map from the Beta?

Very selective... LOL

www.youtube.com/watch?v=0SDBiUjbZ4M

zxcqweasd1

That video absolutely kills KZ2's graphics.

It does not... actually it would have problems to kill Resistance 2 :-)

[QUOTE="CorbraMax"]

Anyone notice how LOT avoided using this map from the Beta?

Very selective... LOL

www.youtube.com/watch?v=0SDBiUjbZ4M

zxcqweasd1

That video absolutely kills KZ2's graphics.

Does it look as good as Killzone 2's graphics? Yeah, it might. But also take into consideration Killzone 2 has 32 players per match as opposed to Crysis 2's 12 players. Also, Killzone 2's maps have more animated environments, as opposed to Crysis 2's still maps that don't offer much outside of the great lighting. I am in no way denying that Crysis 2 looks great, but you're comparing a game that's coming out with a game that's BEEN out for two years.

However, when it's all said and done, Crysis 2 should be more concerned with Killzone 3, since it looks MUCH better than Killzone 2 does.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQR5mKEHGw0

[QUOTE="vkun"]

Keep in mind Crysis 2 has a lot more color. That plays a role in performance too.

xYamatox

Really...? I could be wrong, but I honestly don't see how color would effect performance enough to make any notable difference... Then again, I'm not a tech guy, but I don't see how color would effect performance in any way (I can understand lighting effects and such, though).

It sure does. Go install some color mods and see how that boosts or lowers your performance.

[QUOTE="DroidPhysX"]

[QUOTE="TintedEyes"] That was almost a year apartTintedEyes

Still could be an old build, like mafia 2 demo (I think? it didnt haz teh grass)

no surprise there. Crysis 2 should be played on the pc, and no other way.

EDIT: crysis 2 on consoles does look good for a console game, but there are quite a few console titles that already look better than it. at least 8.

But on the pc this game will be the next graphics king, count on it.

[QUOTE="TintedEyes"][QUOTE="DroidPhysX"] It was still a demo wasn't it?

firefluff3

Still could be an old build, like mafia 2 demo (I think? it didnt haz teh grass)

[QUOTE="zxcqweasd1"]

[QUOTE="CorbraMax"]

Anyone notice how LOT avoided using this map from the Beta?

Very selective... LOL

www.youtube.com/watch?v=0SDBiUjbZ4M

xYamatox

That video absolutely kills KZ2's graphics.

Does it look as good as Killzone 2's graphics? Yeah, it might. But also take into consideration Killzone 2 has 32 players per match as opposed to Crysis 2's 12 players. Also, Killzone 2's maps have more animated environments, as opposed to Crysis 2's still maps that don't offer much outside of the great lighting. I am in no way denying that Crysis 2 looks great, but you're comparing a game that's coming out with a game that's BEEN out for two years.

However, when it's all said and done, Crysis 2 should be more concerned with Killzone 3, since it looks MUCH better than Killzone 2 does.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQR5mKEHGw0

KZ2 looks like ass - and this is coming from somebody who only owns a PS3 and a midrange PC. KZ3 looks better than KZ2, but it's environments are not nearly as diverse as Crysis 2's. It's all the same debris all over the place. To me Crysis 2 is a far more visually appealing game in every way apart from aliasing - it does appear to be a bit more jaggy. KZ3 also has the slightest advantage in resolution but I hardly think that hardly amounts to anything considering all great detail Crysis 2 has, including its textures, lighting, water effects, richer colour palette and far more variation in environments.

You can check my posting history - I post mainly on the PS3 board and have made multiple threads showing my anticipation for Killzone 3. I'm just not a fanboy is all, and Crysis 2 to me looks much better graphically.

I am gonna get flamed for saying this,but I think Crysis 2 looks better.KZ2 uses the heavy blur to hide its low res textures.Look carefully through the lens and you will see.

call_of_duty_10

Killzone 2 was very advanced for a 2009 console game

Crytek should be losing sleep over Killzone 3

Killzone 2 was very advanced for a 2009 console game

Crytek should be losing sleep over Killzone 3

poorfamz

only if we're talking about the console versions. the pc version will create a black hole of obliteration compared to killzone 3 :P

MP demo vs two year old complete game.

[QUOTE="poorfamz"]

Killzone 2 was very advanced for a 2009 console game

Crytek should be losing sleep over Killzone 3

theuncharted34

only if we're talking about the console versions. the pc version will create a black hole of obliteration compared to killzone 3 :P

Because making a game look better on top of the line hardware takes lots of skill :|

If the PS3 version doesnt hold a candle to KZ3 they are going to look like a joke.

[QUOTE="theuncharted34"]

[QUOTE="poorfamz"]

Killzone 2 was very advanced for a 2009 console game

Crytek should be losing sleep over Killzone 3

TheSterls

only if we're talking about the console versions. the pc version will create a black hole of obliteration compared to killzone 3 :P

Because making a game look better on top of the line hardware takes lots of skill :|

If the PS3 version doesnt hold a candle to KZ3 they are going to look like a joke.

making the best looking game for 3 years in a row takes some serious skill. ;)

You do realize, that crytek has to code for many, many different pc setups and 2 consoles? how could anyone expect them to make a better looking console multiplat, than a game like killzone 3. which is being made for ONE set of hardware, and is backed by a large amount of funding by sony, plus, the developers already have a wealth of experience with the ps3's hardware. (Not to mention guerilla games has some extremely talented coders in their own right) and using a custom engine specifically designed for the ps3.

[QUOTE="TheSterls"]

[QUOTE="theuncharted34"]

only if we're talking about the console versions. the pc version will create a black hole of obliteration compared to killzone 3 :P

theuncharted34

Because making a game look better on top of the line hardware takes lots of skill :|

If the PS3 version doesnt hold a candle to KZ3 they are going to look like a joke.

making the best looking game for 3 years in a row takes some serious skill. ;)

You do realize, that crytek has to code for many, many different pc setups and 2 consoles? how could anyone expect them to make a better looking console multiplat, than a game like killzone 3. which is being made for ONE set of hardware, and is backed by a large amount of funding by sony, plus, the developers already have a wealth of experience with the ps3's hardware. (Not to mention guerilla games has some extremely talented coders in their own right) and using a custom engine specifically designed for the ps3.

Yes and no, it shows the serious lack of skill by other pc devsor there lack ofconfidence in creating a game for the pc specifically for high end hardware. ( as many devs dont want to spend the money on a game that will only run on a high endpc.

Second of all Crytek made the claim that it would be the premier shooter on any platform and yes they were talking about visuals. Dont make the claim if you cant back it up. Hell it doesnt need to look better then KZ3 but the PS3 version of Crysis 2 better look as least as good as the 360 version.

This is Crytek's first time ever working on consoles, do people really expect them to surpass other GG, devs that have worked on consoles their whole career?

[QUOTE="theuncharted34"]

[QUOTE="TheSterls"]

Because making a game look better on top of the line hardware takes lots of skill :|

If the PS3 version doesnt hold a candle to KZ3 they are going to look like a joke.

TheSterls

making the best looking game for 3 years in a row takes some serious skill. ;)

You do realize, that crytek has to code for many, many different pc setups and 2 consoles? how could anyone expect them to make a better looking console multiplat, than a game like killzone 3. which is being made for ONE set of hardware, and is backed by a large amount of funding by sony, plus, the developers already have a wealth of experience with the ps3's hardware. (Not to mention guerilla games has some extremely talented coders in their own right) and using a custom engine specifically designed for the ps3.

Yes and no, it shows the serious lack of skill by other pc devsor there lack ofconfidence in creating a game for the pc specifically for high end hardware. ( as many devs dont want to spend the money on a game that will only run on a high endpc.

Second of all Crytek made the claim that it would be the premier shooter on any platform and yes they were talking about visuals. Dont make the claim if you cant back it up. Hell it doesnt need to look better then KZ3 but the PS3 version of Crysis 2 better look as least as good as the 360 version.

I agree that that was just pr talk.

It's not that crytek isn't optimising for these consoles compared to other pc developers, it's just that these consoles are almost archaic compared to high end pc's of today. They aren't going to limit the pc version just because the consoles can't keep up with the cryengine, that'd be silly. All things considered, Crytek is achieving alot from the console versions given the hardware they have to work with, and many different set ups to code. AND it being their first console game this gen.

in killzone 2 & 3 look down the gun at the sun there's no godrays because it's they're static. in crysis 2 if u look at the sun lol u'll see godrays coming off ur gun.DOOM4ISLEGEND

so does perfect dark zero still have better snow than killzone 3? :P

OMG are there actually people who take LOT serious?Those guys are clueless bunch of idiots and I mean really they are.KZ2 does look blurry because it uses alot of motion blur but also most important QAA which makes EVERYTHING look blurred.I don't mind comparison but those should be done by DF cus those guys actually have knowlage on matter.

We've known this since 2009, KZ2>>>Crysis.

GreenGoblin2099

[QUOTE="GreenGoblin2099"]

We've known this since 2009, KZ2>>>Crysis.

Blacklight2

if you took his post seriously your sarcasm detector needs fixing :P

I will admit its very close, but I still think C2 looks better than KZ2. Iantheone

People should wait for retail Crysis 2...I mean,judging it from still bugged mp demo with worst map EVER.Anyone who played original Crysis knows that Crysis Wars did looks worse then SP,and this will be no exception,except it will be even worse since its made by Haze developers not Crytek Frankfurt that made Crytengine 3.Anyway,alot of stuff like lightmaps and shadows are baked in KZ2.It does not make it worse looking game but LOT should have mentioned it.I believe they would,if they knew what that means...

[QUOTE="theuncharted34"]

[QUOTE="Blacklight2"] If you're talking about Crysis 2, Okay. If you're talking about Crysis 1 than you are extremely ignorant.DOOM4ISLEGEND

if you took his post seriously your sarcasm detector needs fixing :P

did you seriously tape your discs to your wall? :lol:

EDIT: guess it's a table. Still shouldn't have your discs face down though.

Whats Changed Since the Crysis 2 Demo?

Crytek RobJ explained they were in the very, very last processes of debugging Crysis 2, only had a few more days before their own deadline. "The demo was compiled a while ago and a lot of things have been changed, and lots of bugs have been fixed" he added. As they were in the final stages before the game was completed to go for approval, he was to attend work on the Sunday later that day (so thanks for staying up). I asked what else had changed since the demo compared to the game current play at work, he answered "Well the first thing I noticed it looks a bit different, we have a new strength texture/effect and also a new cloak effect. Another change that you'll see is that they have improved the kill cam on the current version of Crysis 2.

[QUOTE="theuncharted34"]

[QUOTE="DOOM4ISLEGEND"] http://i53.tinypic.com/214v31h.jpg u own all 3 game's and know right? pdz now textures have something called parallax mapping and uncharted and killzone3 lack it.DOOM4ISLEGEND

did you seriously tape your discs to your wall? :lol:

EDIT: guess it's a table. Still shouldn't have your discs face down though.

lol couldn't tell what it was that close up.

[QUOTE="Iantheone"]I will admit its very close, but I still think C2 looks better than KZ2. Bus-A-Bus

People should wait for retail Crysis 2...I mean,judging it from still bugged mp demo with worst map EVER.Anyone who played original Crysis knows that Crysis Wars did looks worse then SP,and this will be no exception,except it will be even worse since its made by Haze developers not Crytek Frankfurt that made Crytengine 3.Anyway,alot of stuff like lightmaps and shadows are baked in KZ2.It does not make it worse looking game but LOT should have mentioned it.I believe they would,if they knew what that means...

Whats Changed Since the Crysis 2 Demo?

Crytek RobJ explained they were in the very, very last processes of debugging Crysis 2, only had a few more days before their own deadline. "The demo was compiled a while ago and a lot of things have been changed, and lots of bugs have been fixed" he added. As they were in the final stages before the game was completed to go for approval, he was to attend work on the Sunday later that day (so thanks for staying up). I asked what else had changed since the demo compared to the game current play at work, he answered "Well the first thing I noticed it looks a bit different, we have a new strength texture/effect and also a new cloak effect. Another change that you'll see is that they have improved the kill cam on the current version of Crysis 2.

Bus-A-Bus

so textures are improved? great thats what the 360 version really needed :D that should propel it over KZ2 easily then (since Crysis 2's effects and lighting are already above KZ2's level)

no surprise there. Crysis 2 should be played on the pc, and no other way.

EDIT: crysis 2 on consoles does look good for a console game, but there are quite a few console titles that already look better than it. at least 8.

But on the pc this game will be the next graphics king, count on it.

theuncharted34

I'm very curious...please tell me about this elite eight that you speak of :roll:

[QUOTE="theuncharted34"]

no surprise there. Crysis 2 should be played on the pc, and no other way.

EDIT: crysis 2 on consoles does look good for a console game, but there are quite a few console titles that already look better than it. at least 8.

But on the pc this game will be the next graphics king, count on it.

T-razor1

I'm very curious...please tell me about this elite eight that you speak of :roll:

Gears of war 2, Banjo kazooie nuts and bolts, read dead redemption on the 360, (not ps3 version bleah!) Killzone 2, Uncharted 2, god of war 3, ... actually I meant 6.

the game does look great for a console game though. I think it sits around alan wake and halo reach level. Still pretty good.

killzone 2 deserves it; it's multiplayer graphics were incredible.

[QUOTE="Bus-A-Bus"]

Whats Changed Since the Crysis 2 Demo?

Crytek RobJ explained they were in the very, very last processes of debugging Crysis 2, only had a few more days before their own deadline. "The demo was compiled a while ago and a lot of things have been changed, and lots of bugs have been fixed" he added. As they were in the final stages before the game was completed to go for approval, he was to attend work on the Sunday later that day (so thanks for staying up). I asked what else had changed since the demo compared to the game current play at work, he answered "Well the first thing I noticed it looks a bit different, we have a new strength texture/effect and also a new cloak effect. Another change that you'll see is that they have improved the kill cam on the current version of Crysis 2.

MIYAMOTOnext007

so textures are improved? great thats what the 360 version really needed :D that should propel it over KZ2 easily then (since Crysis 2's effects and lighting are already above KZ2's level)

Crysis 2 will be the new graphics king when released. Deal with it.Sir_Graham

Crysis 2 is a simple mismatch. The engine is not a great fit on consoles. I'm looking forward to playing the definitive version on my PC.

[QUOTE="TintedEyes"][QUOTE="DroidPhysX"] You thought a demo was gonna look better than a finished game? Really?:| Not to mention, if you played any dem, it says that the demo doesnt represent the final product.

DroidPhysX

Crysis 2 is a simple mismatch. The engine is not a great fit on consoles. I'm looking forward to playing the definitive version on my PC.

psn8214

yes its built for higher end hardware. They didn't need all those effects on consoles, they should have used some of the power for textures instead of just post-processing and lighting... It will look great on a PC if they put in better textures though.