Mass Effect Andromeda Hype Thread-GS:6! UPDATE: Improving animations, performance, etc. (Huge improvement for eyes)

However HZD doesn't do anything new or interesting, its just there. its acclaimed now, but things that are acclaimed at release many times do not survive the test of time. As well, many things that flopped at release go on to be classics.

ME2 is heavily overrated and is one grand example in how reviewers and even gamers are poor judges of storytelling. And really if I match MEA with a single game from the trilogy, Andromeda beats it. That's how bad the nostalgia factor is.

Play the game or STFU. I preordered the game and was nervous when the reviews appeared but thought oh well it is what it is. Imagine my absolute amazement when I discovered I loved the game and facial animations did not ruin everything for me because I'm not that fucking shallow.

Great environments, great characters, great quests, great combat, great weapons, you don't get any real feel for any of that shit from watching a trailer you dumbass cretin.

Play the game or just simply STFU! Oh and it's 'fare' not 'fair' in your sentence above maybe you should worry about something more important than videogames i.e. go to fucking school.

Since when does a game have to do something new and different to be remembered? Everyone just forget Uncharted or Tomb Raider because they're iterating off each other? Anyone not remember Skyrim? Or what about ME:A for that matter? It's about as vanilla as an open world action RPG can get.

Go ahead and keep telling yourself factually wrong opinions. I'm sure once Bioware announces their new title you'll immediately shift gears and shit on Andromeda and pretend whatever is new is better and Andromeda is the worst.

Sounds like you need to take a chill pill there friendo.

And I'm not going to stop talking about what's wrong with this game so you might as well accept it or just stop responding to me so I have less material to draw from.

I've kind of surmise that "mesh" is their way of labeling tessellation. It just sounds to me like it has to do with geometry. And I have that on Ultra, along with Texture and Terrain, everything else on High, getting solid fps.

But can we just get a standard of graphics settings already? The Division has 4 or 5 different shadow features, same with lighting and spot lighting... can barely distinguish the function of them all ??

Uncharted has high amounts of polish and a memorable story that's like a movie (although a bit overrated) and Tomb Raider is one of the most important 3d gaming franchises ever. I am talking about games like Bioshock Infinite, MGSV, and Bioware's own DAI. Those games were acclaimed by critics but over time reception got a lot more negative.

And no, MEA is solid enough it is ideas that I will not turn on it, when it comes to its narrative. In fact, its a step forward for Bioware in creating narrative webs.

And we will not stop talking about what went well with this game.

You haven't played it. That makes you an even worse judge than these idiot game reviewers who rush content to get a review out.

Dude you have ZERO material because you haven't played the game. You are literally Braindead Moron No. 592.

You can talk about what's wrong with the game when you play it. Until then we will all just laugh at your stupidity. You are gaining a rep you won't appreciate when all is said and done. Just, you know, saying. People don't forget. 'Vaasman, isn't that the dickhead who hated ME Andromeda without actually playing it lol?'.

Yeah, that sort of thing. Enjoy.

Reviews, trailers, shots, etc, are for you to get a grasp on whether you might like a certain game or not, that's it. And "especially this game has gone full meme" ... srsly? :D c'mon :P

You simply can not judge a game, dismiss or even praise it when you haven't experienced it yourself, even when you watch the whole game on youtube you can only judge the story, graphics, and technical aspects, NOT the gameplay, which is the most important aspect. Furthermore, bear in mind that story, writing, and relating to characters, are pretty much subjective. I like this light-hearted tone of MEA but @silversix_doesn't, he doesn't like Peebee but @davillain- does, it's all subjective. Also, factor in the priorities, for instance, animations are not a priority for me, but maybe for someone else they are, so he or she should step away from this game.

In case of Ride to Hell, I wasn't interested in the first place, it's not my type of game, and i haven't played it so i have nothing to say.

Hope you play the game friendo

So it seems that it's important ?

The Division did a great job with the graphics settings, hope others follow this routine.

Not sure if this is true, but lowering Shadows might give a noticable boost to fps, gotta try it

You say 0 material but I've read nearly every professional review, even the more positive ones, and I've watched probably a dozen hours or so of footage from multiple outlets. You can love the game and I won't stop you but there are objectively problems with this game and they should not be ignored.

And what, a reputation for being realistic while you scream that the game is great in spite of what evidence to the contrary that can be gleaned from the majority of sources of media, that isn't outright playing the game with my own two hands? I think I can probably live with that. Just like I can live with not playing 1,2 Switch and giving that game a hard time. I'm sure you've never discussed and/or criticized any games or gameplay mechanics without playing them yourself, right?

I'm fairly certain people will excuse me for being the cynic you need, but not the one you deserve.

If you really wanted to just talk about the game's pluses I wouldn't have said anything, it's more the fact that you have to bitch about what other people said and pretend they're wrong and lesser than you for thinking the way they did.

Here's a nice little point I'm sure won't stick. Sometimes people place weight into things that you don't care as much about, and can form a differing opinion of an overall product based on those. I for instance hate the art and graphics in Undertale, and I can't finish because of that. However I'm not going to say people are factually wrong or morons for liking it, just like I'm not saying anyone is factually wrong or morons here for liking ME:A. Except that one time I did a few posts ago when I said so. Other than that, I don't do it.

Maybe people are remiss to discuss what was working with the story because they didn't want to spoil a system that isn't going to come up in the first several hours. Have you considered that? Have you considered that bugs and imperfections that weren't issues before are issues now because standards in open world games have changed in the last two or three years?

@mjorh Okay well if that's the case then everything I've seen says I would not like this game so that's that. I don't think I've ever once said I myself have a locked down fully formed opinion of the game, I am merely pointing out the things other people have been saying, and what I have seen that is not based in opinion. I see lots of bugs and oddities in streamed and recorded footage, for instance. Not just from compilations. That isn't my opinion it's just a fact I have observed. I don't think I've said at any point I hate this game or I've played through these flaws or I've come to speak negatively of the title from my own on-scene time with it. I have not done anything but speculate on how this game came to be, nor have I said anything was wrong with the people who praised this and reviewed it highly. Any statements to the contrary of any of that, I retract now.

But I'm not going to retract any criticism of people holding negative opinions of others just because they aren't saying what you want to hear, which is the core of the problem. The "reviewers don't know shit!" mentality is toxic and only serves the game negatively.

I have my i7 7700k and all the fixings coming soon. Paired with my 1070, I kinda want to start all over again.

@Vaasman: I didn't say "reviewers don't know shit", everyone's entitled to their own opinion, and as i said above, it's more about priorities (The gamespot review reads like an 8 to me), I for one care more about gameplay rather than story but the same can't be applied to everyone, however, I can criticize how a review is written, look at this review which has given the game 5/10, he or she barely talks about the combat and rambles on and on without backing up his claims. Most of the reviews are like that, and it's easy to see the double-standard, which i don't wanna get into it.

And watch this , if you haven't already.

Anyways, I hope you play the game once it's ironed out and cheaper.

I dislike Peepee but she's not the one i dislike the most. Liam and Cora are the worst and most boring of them all. But they all seem to die so much on insane. Vetra is the only companion that isn't permanently dead in every encounter.

You haven't, others have.

The "double standard" being brought up could be mitigated by a million factors, like that the game has much stiffer competition from the last couple years.

As for the links, I don't particularly enjoy slant as a credible source, and I agree they don't talk much about the gameplay. But TB is one I watched closely and even with his praise he actually says if any game is a 7/10 game it's this, that it's deeply flawed, and that he doesn't blame anyone if they didn't like it or think it's worse than other games in the series.

Edit: and yes I'm sure eventually I will pick this up because I like the rest of the series, even if I don't think it looks good.

@Vaasman: TB really dives deep into the game, analysing all the pros and cons, showing that it really depends on your priorities. And he reluctantly assigns a score (based on what he explained it was atleast an 8/10 for me), which is just a number. I haven't finished the game yet so i'm not sure to end up being fully in line with him but I liked it that he was comprehensive.

Lemme know of your impressions, and I hope you enjoy it ?

Which one do you like the most? Mine is Drack so far.

Yeah, they die too much, good thing is you don't have to revive them (not so sure about this tho ?)

Cora's lady-boner for the Asari is just annoying. Drack is best character, and PeeBee is best Shrek-lookalike waifu.

LOL

@mjorh: Drack. I like the voice acting from Jaal but this new alien race looks stupid in my opinion. Their face is fine n all but the body looks dumb.

There are no crew members that even approach Legion, Liara, Thane and Garrus, tho. Those were way more awesome.

ME2 had the best set of characters, they focused so much on them and they did deliver a cast which, imo, is the best the gaming industry has offered, so i wouldn't be surprised if this game ends up not holding a candle to them.

But ME2 uses them poorly. The problem with ME2 is that the cast didn't contribute much top the whole picture (until ME3 forced them to), and they were mostly disconnected form eachother. What makes MEA's cast great was how they related to eachother and how they contributed to the big picture.

But they had two or three games to work with. The MEA cast only has one. And MEA's cast goes through almost as much development as a character does in the entire trilogy.

However, her loyalty mission is the best of the six (Jaal is close). And really Jaal is the best character. Suvi is the darkhorse, however.

I had previously been to Aya, the Angaran planet, but only as far as the space port. Now finally having completed a few missions on Veold (activating the Vault to begin the terraforming process, establishing an outpost there, and rescuing the critical figure to earn a lot of Angaran trust, among many others) and returned, this time gaining access to the main city on Aya.... just.... frakking WOW!!! ??

Most gorgeous city design ever! It is a feast for the eyes, both in technical accomplishment (great when you can play near Ultra on PC) and most especially the artistic and aesthetic design. I was utterly engrossed just strolling every square foot of this place, with it's architectural splendor coupled with the scenic view of the planet.

I've always wanted to live in the Presidium of the Citadel before but now, I'm ready to pack my bags and move to Aya for permanent residence. ??

About 25 hours into the game and adoring it. I take issue with some minor things, but ultimately it's probably going to end up being one of my favourite games this year.

Unlike everyone else, I can't stand Jaal. Give me Drack or Peebee and Vetra and I'm happy. Hmm...aliens.

Here is the deal.

This entire game is a huge narrative web, with main missions advancing this web, making it spin bigger. The game not only opens up while you play, stories will interact with locations already opened up, like Eos. The dialogue of the citizens and their make up in the hubs also change through time.

This is what the gaming critics seem to not get about Andromeda. Everything connects, the story, the themes, and the characters, unlike any other Bioware game. It actually feels like a new Bioware spin on a cRPG, not another corridor shooter like ME2 was.

What also we are finding out is that those who like ME1 as the best in the trilogy are more likely to like Andromeda, as well as those who liked ME3 the best. Its those who like ME2 the best that are the ones not liking Andromeda as much.

Well, I hate to break it to you....

@texasgoldrush: ME2 is my fav game of all time, but I still dig MEA

I know this is an argument you're in love with that you drive at over and over. But what has that got to do with anything I was talking about? ?

And I must be among the few that enjoyed ME3 the best. It found the most accomodating balance from the first two games; between solid combat/action and open RPG mechanics, where the gunplay was tight and responsive, good mobility too, and there was a good class building structure with sufficient flexibility, improved weapon/gear variation and a nice return of weapon modding. The weight mechanic was a clever innovation to allow freedom of gun loadout with balanced mechanics to the power usage.

And it kept the production value way up with diverse settings for art designs, strong narrative flow (at least up until the end), some of the best crew interactions, with lots of memorable personal moments (especially in the Citadel DLC post mission, including the party), and the most memorable key mission sequences like on Rannoch, Tuchanka, the Cerberus assault on the Citadel... among others.

But yeah it's the original ending that is the crack in the game's overall strong armor.

Hit my first snag since release. Apparently there's an auto save bug where if you autosave while in the vehicle, it either doesn't load from there or it takes a really long time. Other than that, if anything bothers me it's the design of the game. Like SAM warning you about environmental hazards every 5 seconds.

Got my GTX 1070 yesterday and coupled with a 7700K at 1440p the game runs on ultra with no issues. It's actually a beautiful game!

He's the ultimate jewish mother, "Ryder, wear a scarf when you're our there, you'll catch your death, don't forget to hydrate on Eos... and you need more fruits n' veggies if you're going to run around all day..." ??

lmao ???

It's ever funnier because I read it in SAM's voice lol

So it works great with your 7700k? I just bought mine and it should be delivered tomorrow. The board I ordered has a 5ghz OC profile with an ~80% success rate. That should hopefully clear up some of the drops I get on-planet.

I actually fine SAM to be a lot more better A.I then EDi (never mind her Android body) and SAM was open up way more for an A.I so yeah, I never had a problem with him but I do wish SAM was a female A.I, just like Cortana at least.

I jumped right into the multiplayer aspect and tried that out. Gunplay feels pretty good. Maps seem kind of small. Map design and layout doesn't feel all that good and the action seems to get a bit too frenetic because of that. Movement feels a bit to jittery so to speak. Better the ME3 mp in some aspects like looks and gunplay but not as good in others in map design and movement and flow.

It works way better without overclocking. It does dip a bit though, but it's fixed by dropping the shadow quality down to high.

maps are much better in ME3. There's only 5 in Andromeda so far and they are all small as shit.. i guess they feel jumping on rooftops is an extra map within a map...except you just get ambushed on all sides at that point

I finally got to play the game. Finished the prologue, explored the nexus and now I'm on my way to Eos. I'm having a great time so far, can't wait to jump right back and do some exploring and fighting. Story and characters are interesting so far and the transition from a mere soldier of the pathfinder team, to being the pathfinder himself felt smooth with no "you're the special chosen one" cliche. I also liked the new galaxy map - it really brought back that awesome feeling from the trilogy.

No particularly weird animation so far except for a couple of already known ones. Character creator is idd pretty terrible - tried to create a decent lifelike dude resembling myself but it turned out meh so went with the default Ryder instead. The research and crafting menus are a bit overwhelming imo, I keep postponing utilizing them lol.

Nice. I'm upgrading from an i5 4690k, so i'm not expecting leaps and bounds in gaming performance, but hopefully it should help stabilize it.

@WeepsForFools: Yeah I've only played on two maps so far and it just seems too easy to get ambushed. In the maps for ME3 you could better control the flow and protect yourself. Also is just me or does the camera feel a bit too close to the player which makes it more difficult to have a good sense of map and enemy awareness.

Some undeniable truth here.

Its got everything to what you are talking about. The game opens up and the hubs evolve as you play the game. Another huge moment is when the Cultural Center of the Nexus opens and angarians start visiting that as well as the Nexus.

Playing MEA really showed me the flaws of ME2. For example, MEA introduces its loyalty quests far more organically and far less formulaically than ME2.

Also in case no one saw giantbomb gave it a 2/5. The game is down to a 71 on metacritic.

@mjorh: @silversix_: Angry Joe Andromeda review is out!

6/10 is too generous if you ask me but no surprise Joe was gonna go hard on this review.

@davillain-: This should be like his laziest review, after BotW review I expected sth in-depth with some detail, this wasn't good

"Insanity is what this game is meant to be played on". This may be the reason why i'm enjoying the game. Its more challenging than all past ME games and even at my current level 21 i die almost instantly if not behind cover. When you're in danger anywhere you go, exploration becomes much more interesting to me.