Mass Effect Barely fits one disk!!

So it fits but i mean it might be extending the truth just look at obilvionStarFoxCOM

Oblivion is a very small game data wise. Oblivion is the worst example you can use for a "big" game.

[QUOTE="StarFoxCOM"]So it fits but i mean it might be extending the truth just look at obilvionXaosII

Oblivion is a very small game data wise. Oblivion is the worst example you can use for a "big" game.

It's got many hours of gameplay and lots of content. More than any PS3 game I have seen so far and if past Bioware games are anything to go by Mass Effect will too.

what you guys think? maybe Sony was right about Blue-ray..i know lemming goin to say i dont care about havin 2 disk..but havin mulitple disk is so last gen..lol...ps3gen

They are right about Blu-Ray...Imagine a game as big as Mass Effect or even bigger in 1080p.  It would need multiple discs if on regular DVD and not Blu-Ray.  I bet Rock Star is having a very, very tough time compressing GTA IV to fit on DVD for Xbox 360.

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[QUOTE="StarFoxCOM"]So it fits but i mean it might be extending the truth just look at obilvionPaktahn

Oblivion is a very small game data wise. Oblivion is the worst example you can use for a "big" game.

It's got many hours of gameplay and lots of content. More than any PS3 game I have seen so far and if past Bioware games are anything to go by Mass Effect will too.

But it constantly reuses assets.

Gears of War is about 10 times shorter of a game but probably takes up more space due to its variety. Oblivion ends up using the same models and graphics over and oer cutting down on alot of disc space. Space flight sims from even 5 or 6 years ago have a universe 10 times bigger than oblivion with more content...They'll probably fit in one or two CD's.

Theres aboslutely no correlation between disk space usage and game length. The only thing you can divulge is how often a game keeps reusing the same textures and models. Mass Effect, for such a long game, will probably end up using the same space ships and textures over and over and over to death.

Blue Ray is not necessary.

DVD9 is fine. Three disks = 26GB. They're cheaper to make than one BRdisk and the data on them have better access speeds.

This is win win situation for producer and consumer.

[QUOTE="ps3gen"]what you guys think? maybe Sony was right about Blue-ray..i know lemming goin to say i dont care about havin 2 disk..but havin mulitple disk is so last gen..lol...AvIdGaMeR444

They are right about Blu-Ray...Imagine a game as big as Mass Effect or even bigger in 1080p. It would need multiple discs if on regular DVD and not Blu-Ray. I bet Rock Star is having a very, very tough time compressing GTA IV to fit on DVD for Xbox 360.

[QUOTE="ps3gen"]what you guys think? maybe Sony was right about Blue-ray..i know lemming goin to say i dont care about havin 2 disk..but havin mulitple disk is so last gen..lol...MickeyTheNinja

[QUOTE="ps3gen"]what you guys think? maybe Sony was right about Blue-ray..i know lemming goin to say i dont care about havin 2 disk..but havin mulitple disk is so last gen..lol...AvIdGaMeR444

They are right about Blu-Ray...Imagine a game as big as Mass Effect or even bigger in 1080p.  It would need multiple discs if on regular DVD and not Blu-Ray.  I bet Rock Star is having a very, very tough time compressing GTA IV to fit on DVD for Xbox 360.

Again, where is your proof Mass Effect is not running in 1080p?

Besides, as stated many times before in this thread, Mass Effect running in 1080p isn't going to take up any more space than the same game running in 720p. It's a just a change resolution. All the game does extra is tell the hardware to push the extra pixels needed to be considered 1080p. There is virtually no difference otherwise. The only difference is in FMV's and cutscenes. Those are the only things that are different when it comes to size, and since Mass Effect isn't loaded with a ton of CG cutscenes and the like, this is a non issue.

what you guys think? maybe Sony was right about Blue-ray..i know lemming goin to say i dont care about havin 2 disk..but havin mulitple disk is so last gen..lol...ps3gen

[QUOTE="Prid3r"]If a game like mass effect ,which is supposed to be one of the biggest game of this gen ( Galactic scale ) , I think that clearly prove , Blu-ray isn't needed in gaming AT ALL .ps3gen

Ya because the xbox 360 can't handle long games!

cough OBLIVION cough

Blue Ray is not necessary.

DVD9 is fine. Three disks = 26GB. They're cheaper to make than one BRdisk and the data on them have better access speeds.

This is win win situation for producer and consumer.

CarlosPontinas

Wrong.

With three disks, increased developer cost.

1 In developing compression

2 To decide where to put what data on which disk to reduce disk swapping

3 Increase time in testing to make sure all the data in each disk is enough to run at various stages of the game.

It was probably cheaper for the developer to try to fit Mass Effect into one disk than to have multiple disks. It would be even cheaper if they did not have to develop compression, or decide what to include in the game and what not to.

[QUOTE="ps3gen"]what you guys think? maybe Sony was right about Blue-ray..i know lemming goin to say i dont care about havin 2 disk..but havin mulitple disk is so last gen..lol...Magical_Zebra

LMFOA core owners TLHBO

It's got many hours of gameplay and lots of content.

Paktahn

Again, where is your proof Mass Effect is not running in 1080p?

Besides, as stated many times before in this thread, Mass Effect running in 1080p isn't going to take up any more space than the same game running in 720p. It's a just a change resolution. All the game does extra is tell the hardware to push the extra pixels needed to be considered 1080p. There is virtually no difference otherwise. The only difference is in FMV's and cutscenes. Those are the only things that are different when it comes to size, and since Mass Effect isn't loaded with a ton of CG cutscenes and the like, this is a non issue.

The_Game21x

what you guys think? maybe Sony was right about Blue-ray..i know lemming goin to say i dont care about havin 2 disk..but havin mulitple disk is so last gen..lol...ps3gen

[QUOTE="ps3gen"]what you guys think? maybe Sony was right about Blue-ray..i know lemming goin to say i dont care about havin 2 disk..but havin mulitple disk is so last gen..lol...Supafly1

Agreed.

Define "Just barely"...

That could really be anything. It could be that there's still 3/10, 4/10, 1/10, or 2/10 of the room on the DVD left.

It fits though. That's really all that matters.

lol. lemmings have been partially owned.

this gives room for speculation that Mass Effect 2 will be multiple discs.
xxThyLordxx

Owned by speculation? Wow, that's a new one.

That's really grasping though...

lol. lemmings have been partially owned.

this gives room for speculation that Mass Effect 2 will be multiple discs.
xxThyLordxx

You understand the disk compression has NOT reached it's full potential, right?

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[QUOTE="KeyWii"]Wouldn't have fit if it were in 1080Pps3gen

And how exactly do you know it's not?

good to see some non-lazy devs out thereadman66

[QUOTE="adman66"]good to see some non-lazy devs out theremtradr43

[QUOTE="ps3gen"]The limits of DVD storage capacity are being tested, but will not be maxed out by Mass Effect. During a Q&A update, project director Casey Hudson confirmed that Mass Effect "is a monstrous game. In fact, there was a time -- not too long ago -- when we pretty much scoffed at the idea of fitting onto one disc. But, there's an art to optimizing the data that goes on a disc"; Mass Effect will fit onto a single disc -- "but just barely."

http://www.joystiq.com/2007/02/27/mass-effect-to-fit-snugly-onto-one-disc/
mjarantilla

Considering the size of Mass Effect, i agree with that statement. :)

[QUOTE="mtradr43"][QUOTE="adman66"]good to see some non-lazy devs out thereSecretPolice

Oh yes!

Looks like a clean sweep for the 360 in '07

GotY goes to

1st - Mass Effect

2nd - Halo 3

3rd - BioShock

This just in!

Mass Effect is a HUGE game that fits in one DVD.

I think this bash thread has turned into self-ownd.

And I doubt we'll see to many games bigger than Mass Effect, so it's true, Bl-ray is not needed.