Master Chief's Character Is So "Forced".

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#1 Boogie_J
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he is the most forced gaming mascot ever.:lol:

He's like an artificial badass. He tries way too hard to be cool, and his corny one-liners are on par with duke nukem. his character just steals aspects from other characters, in particular solid snake. I just can't take him seriously to be honest. All I see is some green...armored...guy :?

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#2 DaysAirlines
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Example of a line on par with a Duke Nukem line please?
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HAlo 3 was never praised for its story or interesting characters.
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#4 Dante2710
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he is the most forced gaming mascot ever.:lol:

He's like an artificial badass. He tries way too hard to be cool, and his corny one-liners are on par with duke nukem. his character just steals aspects from other characters, in particular solid snake. I just can't take him seriously to be honest. All I see is some green...armored...guy :?

Boogie_J
are u serious? i sure hope this a joke topic...if not....then wow
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Im sorry, but I dont think the MC character "tries" to do anything....
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#6 Eltroz
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Here are some Halo 3 facts since cow so quickly forget-

Halo 3 racks up $170 million 1st day more then Harry Potter and spider man-http://www.networkworld.com/news/2007/092707-microsofts-halo-3-breaks-first-day.html

Halo 3 racks up $300 million in first week-http://www.azcentral.com/business/consumer/articles/1004biz-halo3sales04-ON.html

Movie Execs blame Halo 3 for low Oct movie sales-http://news.filefront.com/film-execs-blame-halo-3-for-poor-movie-ticket-sales/

Halo 3 sales so far 5.99 million and that is just in 2 monthshttp://vgchartz.com/games/game.php?id=6964which is more then any MGS game.

The power of Master chief is very strong. Trust me Sony wishes they had that.

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#7 manny280
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at least he can talk unlike samus,link,gordon freeman and his line arent as lame as itsa me mario everytime

o yea i went there

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he is the most forced gaming mascot ever.:lol:

He's like an artificial badass. He tries way too hard to be cool, and his corny one-liners are on par with duke nukem. his character just steals aspects from other characters, in particular solid snake. I just can't take him seriously to be honest. All I see is some green...armored...guy :?

Boogie_J

comparing master chief to the Duke?

FAIL

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#9 c_smithii
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he is the most forced gaming mascot ever.:lol:

He's like an artificial badass. He tries way too hard to be cool, and his corny one-liners are on par with duke nukem. his character just steals aspects from other characters, in particular solid snake. I just can't take him seriously to be honest. All I see is some green...armored...guy :?

Boogie_J

Let me guess. You never played Halo before? Master Chief is nothing like Duke Nukem or Solid Snake.

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#10 GunSmith1_basic
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halo is cheesy! Seriously like that leader guy who's just a walking cliche. And then that Cortana or whatever her name was, that was long in the teeth. It was better when it was just a dude with a gun
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#11 Dahaka-UK
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He's definately not on par with duke nukem but he is as you said some guy in green armor, nothing special really. Mr generic.
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#12 JiveT
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Master Chief is an iconic figure more recognizable than any other in gaming besides Sonic. Yes even Mario trails behind him and yes Sonic is still the most recognized.

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#13 GunSmith1_basic
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its weird that you bring up duke nukem because I just played bioshock and I think that game takes a lot from duke nukem. They are both going for different vibes but they are very similar regardless
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halo is cheesy! Seriously like that leader guy who's just a walking cliche. And then that Cortana or whatever her name was, that was long in the teeth. It was better when it was just a dude with a gunGunSmith1_basic

Cortana was just annoying in Halo 3, especially with those annoying interuptions every now and then.

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at least he can talk unlike samus,link,gordon freeman and his line arent as lame as itsa me mario everytime

o yea i went there

manny280

He can talk, but he still doesn't have a face.

:lol:

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#16 OXIIIIXO
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Master Chief is an iconic figure more recognizable than any other in gaming besides Sonic. Yes even Mario trails behind him and yes Sonic is still the most recognized.

JiveT

and how would you know this?

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#17 manny280
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[QUOTE="manny280"]

at least he can talk unlike samus,link,gordon freeman and his line arent as lame as itsa me mario everytime

o yea i went there

Shad0ki11

He can talk, but he still doesn't have a face.

:lol:

touche :lol:

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#18 Boogie_J
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halo is cheesy! Seriously like that leader guy who's just a walking cliche. And then that Cortana or whatever her name was, that was long in the teeth. It was better when it was just a dude with a gunGunSmith1_basic

right on

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Here are some Halo 3 facts since cow so quickly forget-

Halo 3 racks up $170 million 1st day more then Harry Potter and spider man-http://www.networkworld.com/news/2007/092707-microsofts-halo-3-breaks-first-day.html

Halo 3 racks up $300 million in first week-http://www.azcentral.com/business/consumer/articles/1004biz-halo3sales04-ON.html

Movie Execs blame Halo 3 for low Oct movie sales-http://news.filefront.com/film-execs-blame-halo-3-for-poor-movie-ticket-sales/

Halo 3 sales so far 5.99 million and that is just in 2 monthshttp://vgchartz.com/games/game.php?id=6964which is more then any MGS game.

The power of Master chief is very strong. Trust me Sony wishes they had that.

Eltroz

what do sales have to do with anything in this topic?

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Here are some Halo 3 facts since cow so quickly forget-

Eltroz

how the game sold has little to do with the character, especially in this genre.

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#21 Mordred19
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Here are some Halo 3 facts since cow so quickly forget-

Halo 3 racks up $170 million 1st day more then Harry Potter and spider man-http://www.networkworld.com/news/2007/092707-microsofts-halo-3-breaks-first-day.html

Halo 3 racks up $300 million in first week-http://www.azcentral.com/business/consumer/articles/1004biz-halo3sales04-ON.html

Movie Execs blame Halo 3 for low Oct movie sales-http://news.filefront.com/film-execs-blame-halo-3-for-poor-movie-ticket-sales/

Halo 3 sales so far 5.99 million and that is just in 2 monthshttp://vgchartz.com/games/game.php?id=6964which is more then any MGS game.

The power of Master chief is very strong. Trust me Sony wishes they had that.

Eltroz

is this some kind of Freudian slip on your part? Why site sales, when the nature of the game's protagonist is the issue? "cows this, cows that" how about discussing the issue instead?

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#22 AIH_PSP
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Here are some Halo 3 facts since cow so quickly forget-

Halo 3 racks up $170 million 1st day more then Harry Potter and spider man-http://www.networkworld.com/news/2007/092707-microsofts-halo-3-breaks-first-day.html

Halo 3 racks up $300 million in first week-http://www.azcentral.com/business/consumer/articles/1004biz-halo3sales04-ON.html

Movie Execs blame Halo 3 for low Oct movie sales-http://news.filefront.com/film-execs-blame-halo-3-for-poor-movie-ticket-sales/

Halo 3 sales so far 5.99 million and that is just in 2 monthshttp://vgchartz.com/games/game.php?id=6964which is more then any MGS game.

The power of Master chief is very strong. Trust me Sony wishes they had that.

Eltroz

Umm...what does sales figures have to do with the fact that MasterChief is an artificial "badass" with corny one-liners?

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Master Chief has character?
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#24 Pro_wrestler
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Like it or not, Mastercheif is great. So great that MadTv did a skit for him, weres the Solid Snake skit? Mario even has his own skit from MadTv and SNL.

PS. Theres no Character that portrays the bad-ass image like Duke Nukem. "Stomp your ass into bubblegum and I'm all outta gum," So you comparing him to Duke is a compliment, not an insult as you hoped it would be. Good day.

PPS. What do you think of Samus(Rhetorical, I don't really care what you think), because she has never said a word. She always grunts like a neaderthal. You would think she was a deaf-mute, yet you over look her, I wonder whats the culpret reason behind that TC. Fanboyism flamebait?
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#25 BlackBaron11
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at least he can talk unlike samus,link,gordon freeman and his line arent as lame as itsa me mario everytime

o yea i went there

manny280
its a me mario! :lol: never thought of it like that.
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Like it or not, Mastercheif is great. So great that MadTv did a skit for him, weres the Solid Snake skit? Mario even has his own skit from MadTv and SNL.

PS. Theres no Character that portrays the bad-ass image like Duke Nukem. "Stomp your ass into bubblegum and I'm all outta gum," So you comparing him to Duke is a compliment, not an insult as you hoped it would be. Good day.

PPS. What do you think of Samus(Rhetorical, I don't really care what you think), because she has never said a word. She always grunts like a neaderthal. You would think she was a deaf-mute, yet you over look her, I wonder whats the culpret reason behind that TC. Fanboyism flamebait?
Pro_wrestler

Skits are done for characters and people if they are high-profile, not if they can be atributed with any positive adjetives like "awesome", "cool", or even "acceptable" :P

I suppose George W. Bush is an awesome badass, considering he is portrayedon SNL and MadTV skits all the time.

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#27 mistervengeance
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master chief is just ....... there

yeah he killed some aliens and stuff

but in the end he's just.... there

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#28 Tsug_Ze_Wind
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Hold it right there.

Master Chief is a huge dork. Duke Nukem is the epitome of "Duke Nukem" - that's right, he's far too badass to simply be categorized as "badass," so he had to create a new category and adjective to fit all of his Duke Nukemness in.

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Here are some Halo 3 facts since cow so quickly forget-

Halo 3 racks up $170 million 1st day more then Harry Potter and spider man-http://www.networkworld.com/news/2007/092707-microsofts-halo-3-breaks-first-day.html
Video Game are $60 dollars. Movies are $10. not so signifacant is it?

Halo 3 racks up $300 million in first week-http://www.azcentral.com/business/consumer/articles/1004biz-halo3sales04-ON.html
Mario, GT, and Pokemon are a billion dollar franchise.

Movie Execs blame Halo 3 for low Oct movie sales-http://news.filefront.com/film-execs-blame-halo-3-for-poor-movie-ticket-sales/
Maybe because the movies in October just sucked. :|

Halo 3 sales so far 5.99 million and that is just in 2 monthshttp://vgchartz.com/games/game.php?id=6964which is more then any MGS game.
Unlike M$, Sony don't depend on 1 mascot to sell it's game. I wonder why you didn't say GT, FF, or Mario? hmmmmm.

The power of Master chief is very strong. Trust me Sony wishes they had that.

Eltroz
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#30 Mark36111
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HAlo 3 was never praised for its story or interesting characters.meetroid8

From gamespot's Halo 3 review:

"Great Story" merit: "not every game needs a story to work, but when games can tell good stories, and tell them in effective, interesting ways, it's worth pointing out"

" Satisfying storyline that simultaneously provides closure while making you wonder what will happen next"

"All you really need to know if you're on the fence about Halo 3's campaign is that it's a delicate balancing act that manages to provide satisfying closure for the trilogy, make perfect sense of all the cryptic events in Halo 2, and leave you filled with anticipation for more adventures set in the Halo universe."

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he is the most forced gaming mascot ever.:lol:

He's like an artificial badass. He tries way too hard to be cool, and his corny one-liners are on par with duke nukem. his character just steals aspects from other characters, in particular solid snake. I just can't take him seriously to be honest. All I see is some green...armored...guy :?

Boogie_J

i'm confused...do u know what a mascot is for? if ppl like it let it be, ppl do cause they are one sided, heck i like him cause he is a one sided character, i haven't found one of those since mario. everything is so fleshed out with charcter and stories in games(which i love) but it is intresting to find a game that has a decent sory and one sided character.

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#32 Gh0st_Of_0nyx
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Joke topic ? :lol:
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#33 irmeleeman5995
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Im sorry, but I dont think the MC character "tries" to do anything....wolverine4262
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[QUOTE="Eltroz"]

Here are some Halo 3 facts since cow so quickly forget-

Halo 3 racks up $170 million 1st day more then Harry Potter and spider man-http://www.networkworld.com/news/2007/092707-microsofts-halo-3-breaks-first-day.html

Halo 3 racks up $300 million in first week-http://www.azcentral.com/business/consumer/articles/1004biz-halo3sales04-ON.html

Movie Execs blame Halo 3 for low Oct movie sales-http://news.filefront.com/film-execs-blame-halo-3-for-poor-movie-ticket-sales/

Halo 3 sales so far 5.99 million and that is just in 2 monthshttp://vgchartz.com/games/game.php?id=6964which is more then any MGS game.

The power of Master chief is very strong. Trust me Sony wishes they had that.

BTBAM127

what do sales have to do with anything in this topic?

That bashing the game, especially on such an asinine subject, is moronic.

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#35 TREAL_Since
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HAlo 3 was never praised for its story or interesting characters.meetroid8

Really? Alot of fans and Lems praise Halo's story all the time. It's overrated really.

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#36 irmeleeman5995
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MC doesn't deliver one liners. I hear people say that all the time, and he's not Spiderman guys. He's a great character, and his writing and voice really define him and set him apart from other people. As far as him not having a face, that's the point. He's a symbol, an icon. Watch V for Vendetta. Same concept.
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#37 Apathetic-Irony
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[QUOTE="Eltroz"]

Here are some Halo 3 facts since cow so quickly forget-

Halo 3 racks up $170 million 1st day more then Harry Potter and spider man-http://www.networkworld.com/news/2007/092707-microsofts-halo-3-breaks-first-day.html
Video Game are $60 dollars. Movies are $10. not so signifacant is it? It's still very significant. To try and downplay it is like trying to say 9-11 wasn't significant because the Tsunami in 2004 killed 196,000 more people.

Halo 3 racks up $300 million in first week-http://www.azcentral.com/business/consumer/articles/1004biz-halo3sales04-ON.html
Mario, GT, and Pokemon are a billion dollar franchise. Your point? Halo is a franchise that's been out for merely 6 years, and on a console thats user base has never surpassed 30,000,000. As opposed to Pokemon, Mario, and GT -- all 3 of which have been out since, what? '98 for GT and Pokemon? And have been on numerous systems that nearly defined gaming.

Movie Execs blame Halo 3 for low Oct movie sales-http://news.filefront.com/film-execs-blame-halo-3-for-poor-movie-ticket-sales/
Maybe because the movies in October just sucked. :| It's still THAT big to where it's actually blamed by something as huge as the movie industry.

Halo 3 sales so far 5.99 million and that is just in 2 monthshttp://vgchartz.com/games/game.php?id=6964which is more then any MGS game.
Unlike M$, Sony don't depend on 1 mascot to sell it's game. I wonder why you didn't say GT, FF, or Mario? hmmmmm. What's your point here?

The power of Master chief is very strong. Trust me Sony wishes they had that.

King_of_Sorrow

Get over it and get over yourself. Halo is the biggest thing to hit gaming since Mario.

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#38 rocklegacy2
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Master Chief is no one special.

And Duke Nukem is the epitome of manliness - his one-liners are hilarious.

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http://www.amazon.com/Books-Flood-First-Strike-Reach/dp/0345473043/ref=pd_bbs_sr_3?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1196041105&sr=8-3

Read these, then you can have a meaningful opinion.

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[QUOTE="Pro_wrestler"]Like it or not, Mastercheif is great. So great that MadTv did a skit for him, weres the Solid Snake skit? Mario even has his own skit from MadTv and SNL.

PS. Theres no Character that portrays the bad-ass image like Duke Nukem. "Stomp your ass into bubblegum and I'm all outta gum," So you comparing him to Duke is a compliment, not an insult as you hoped it would be. Good day.

PPS. What do you think of Samus(Rhetorical, I don't really care what you think), because she has never said a word. She always grunts like a neaderthal. You would think she was a deaf-mute, yet you over look her, I wonder whats the culpret reason behind that TC. Fanboyism flamebait?
Mordred19

Skits are done for characters and people if they are high-profile, not if they can be atributed with any positive adjetives like "awesome", "cool", or even "acceptable" :P

I suppose George W. Bush is an awesome badass, considering he is portrayedon SNL and MadTV skits all the time.

The fact that Halo is a game that is enjoyed by millions of people is evidence enough to anyone that the reason and intent for them creating a skit for Mastercheif is because he's an iconic, positive figure. To say otherwise is to deny Mastercheif's role in all 3 Halo games.

It's all about perception as is them portraying DUBYA in their skits. The perception of MC stems from how successful Halo games are and how well they are liked by others. By admitting that they only do skits for "high profile" nouns, you admit that Snake is'nt on the level of Mastercheif when it comes to status.

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#41 Cyber-
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The whole concept of Halo is under this principle that you speak of.

MS and Bungie basically used concepts and ideas from other games and made them really polished.

It doesnt mean its not a good game.

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#42 skrat_01
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He is one of the most boring, bland, stereotypical, uncharismatic video game characters.

Duke Nukem >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> M.C

"its time to kickass and chew bubblegum.... and im all out of gum"

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#43 skrat_01
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Get over it and get over yourself. Halo is the biggest thing to hit gaming since Mario.

Apathetic-Irony

Thats what Microsoft wants you to beleive.

Huge marketing does wonders doesent it....

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#44 sonicmj1
Member since 2003 • 9130 Posts

Master Chief doesn't really have that much character, but he's definitely not forcing anything. He doesn't talk very much. He just kinda does his thing. He isn't quite a Link/Gordon Freeman level silent protagonist, but he's not far removed from it.

I still actually liked the line in the Cortana level when she asks Chief "So, what's the plan?" and he says, "Thought I'd shoot my way out. Mix things up a bit."

Actually made me smile.

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#45 skrat_01
Member since 2007 • 33767 Posts

at least he can talk unlike samus,link,gordon freeman and his line arent as lame as itsa me mario everytime

o yea i went there

manny280

Gordon Freeman isnt designed to talk. He isnt even textured ingame when you switch to 3rd person via the console. The player is never designed to see outside the first person perspective

And MC sucks in comparison.

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#46 Puckhog04
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Well, he is in the Military. I don't recall anyone in the military (before shooting someone) asking, do you mind if i kill you? It's always forced. :|

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#47 Apathetic-Irony
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[QUOTE="Apathetic-Irony"]

Get over it and get over yourself. Halo is the biggest thing to hit gaming since Mario.

skrat_01

Thats what Microsoft wants you to beleive.

Huge marketing does wonders doesent it....

No... look at the post I quoted. You notice those sales figures? You notice how everybody knows what Halo is?

Whether it's the greatest game ever or the worst ever is to each person's own preference, just like every other game. What cannot be denied is that the game is just about the biggest name in the industry next to Mario.

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#48 Sparky04
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[QUOTE="JiveT"]

Master Chief is an iconic figure more recognizable than any other in gaming besides Sonic. Yes even Mario trails behind him and yes Sonic is still the most recognized.

OXIIIIXO

and how would you know this?

Wow, you honestly think more people know who Master Chief is than Mario?

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#49 Apathetic-Irony
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[QUOTE="OXIIIIXO"][QUOTE="JiveT"]

Master Chief is an iconic figure more recognizable than any other in gaming besides Sonic. Yes even Mario trails behind him and yes Sonic is still the most recognized.

Sparky04

and how would you know this?

Wow, you honestly think more people know who Master Chief is than Mario?

People don't know Master Chief. They know 'Halo'. For all they know it's a butterfly simulator set in the Angelic World of Happiness Six.

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#50 Zaxro
Member since 2007 • 449 Posts

Is the TC implying that Duke Nukem is not one awesome hero? They took every stupid cliche they could think of and put it in him.

Also master Chief really isn't supposed to have a personality, He's just a green alien ass-kicking dude that the player (is at least supposed to) enjoys being.