Media Create Japan Sales Dec 26-Jan1: PS Vita is a Disaster Edition

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#101 Fizzman
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I dont understand, why isnt an overpriced handheld with no games not selling very much?

This is gonna be another bad year for Sony since they will be forced to slash the price of the Vita and take in enormous losses............again.

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#102 Wanderer5
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Looks like the 3DS will be getting about platinum soon with Monster Hunter 3G (not surprisingly).

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#103 FlamesOfGrey
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[QUOTE="Fizzman"]

I dont understand, why isnt an overpriced handheld with no games not selling very much?

This is gonna be another bad year for Sony since they will be forced to slash the price of the Vita and take in enormous losses............again.

Lulz what the PS Vita is not overpriced at all and it's launch line-up of games is good. Sony just doesn't have a Killer Ap for the Japanese gamers. Also, the one thing Sony did do very wrong were the memory card prices.
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#104 JohnF111
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Vita numbers at 42k aint too bad... They'll gradually open up the market but right now Nintendo has an irongrip on Japan so it's expected, a system a year late losing to the cheaper, better supported system(Like we haven't seen that before). Give it a few months and Vita numbers will likely increase. Oh and sales, oh my god people stop getting erections when your favorite company makes more in a month than you'll likely earn in 20 years.
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#105 xhawk27
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People still buying that flop called PSP! :lol:

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#106 Fizzman
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[QUOTE="Fizzman"]

I dont understand, why isnt an overpriced handheld with no games not selling very much?

This is gonna be another bad year for Sony since they will be forced to slash the price of the Vita and take in enormous losses............again.

FlamesOfGrey

Lulz what the PS Vita is not overpriced at all and it's launch line-up of games is good. Sony just doesn't have a Killer Ap for the Japanese gamers. Also, the one thing Sony did do very wrong were the memory card prices.

It is overpriced. A device that only plays games for 250 bucks is a rip off in today's market. You can thank Apple for that.

There is a reason why Nintendo had to drop the price of the 3DS.

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#107 kuraimen
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Does everybody forget that the 3DS was also selling poorly at the start and that they had to cut the price quickly? Chances are these companies already know that and they release the hardware at that price so that they can sell the first batch and then lower the price.
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#108 Wanderer5
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[QUOTE="FlamesOfGrey"][QUOTE="Fizzman"]

I dont understand, why isnt an overpriced handheld with no games not selling very much?

This is gonna be another bad year for Sony since they will be forced to slash the price of the Vita and take in enormous losses............again.

Fizzman

Lulz what the PS Vita is not overpriced at all and it's launch line-up of games is good. Sony just doesn't have a Killer Ap for the Japanese gamers. Also, the one thing Sony did do very wrong were the memory card prices.

It is overpriced. A device that only plays games for 250 bucks is a rip off in today's market. You can thank Apple for that.

There is a reason why Nintendo had to drop the price of the 3DS.

Lol what? The Vita is a multi media system like the PSP.

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#109 Fizzman
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Does everybody forget that the 3DS was also selling poorly at the start and that they had to cut the price quickly? Chances are these companies already know that and they release the hardware at that price so that they can sell the first batch and then lower the price.kuraimen

And alienate their most loyal customers. Sound business strategy you got there. Nintendo did not plan on dropping the price of the 3DS. Sony doesnt plan to either, but they have no choice since Nintendo already did it.

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#110 el3m2tigre
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[QUOTE="Fizzman"]

I dont understand, why isnt an overpriced handheld with no games not selling very much?

This is gonna be another bad year for Sony since they will be forced to slash the price of the Vita and take in enormous losses............again.

FlamesOfGrey

Lulz what the PS Vita is not overpriced at all and it's launch line-up of games is good. Sony just doesn't have a Killer Ap for the Japanese gamers. Also, the one thing Sony did do very wrong were the memory card prices.

You know something doesn't sit right if a handheld is worth more than an HD console.

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#111 Fizzman
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[QUOTE="Fizzman"]

[QUOTE="FlamesOfGrey"] Lulz what the PS Vita is not overpriced at all and it's launch line-up of games is good. Sony just doesn't have a Killer Ap for the Japanese gamers. Also, the one thing Sony did do very wrong were the memory card prices.Wanderer5

It is overpriced. A device that only plays games for 250 bucks is a rip off in today's market. You can thank Apple for that.

There is a reason why Nintendo had to drop the price of the 3DS.

Lol what? The Vita is a multi media system like the PSP.

It is a dedicated handheld gaming device. It's sole purpose is to play videogames.

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#112 FlamesOfGrey
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[QUOTE="el3m2tigre"]

[QUOTE="FlamesOfGrey"][QUOTE="Fizzman"]

I dont understand, why isnt an overpriced handheld with no games not selling very much?

This is gonna be another bad year for Sony since they will be forced to slash the price of the Vita and take in enormous losses............again.

Lulz what the PS Vita is not overpriced at all and it's launch line-up of games is good. Sony just doesn't have a Killer Ap for the Japanese gamers. Also, the one thing Sony did do very wrong were the memory card prices.

You know something doesn't sit right if a handheld is worth more than an HD console.

PS3 and 360 are over 6 years old. PS Vita is newly released.
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#113 Wanderer5
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It is a dedicated handheld gaming device. It's sole purpose is to play videogames.

Fizzman

It doesn't have a sole purpose. Games are the main spotlight, but it has other purposes.

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#114 FlamesOfGrey
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[QUOTE="Fizzman"]

[QUOTE="FlamesOfGrey"][QUOTE="Fizzman"]

I dont understand, why isnt an overpriced handheld with no games not selling very much?

This is gonna be another bad year for Sony since they will be forced to slash the price of the Vita and take in enormous losses............again.

Lulz what the PS Vita is not overpriced at all and it's launch line-up of games is good. Sony just doesn't have a Killer Ap for the Japanese gamers. Also, the one thing Sony did do very wrong were the memory card prices.

It is overpriced. A device that only plays games for 250 bucks is a rip off in today's market. You can thank Apple for that.

There is a reason why Nintendo had to drop the price of the 3DS.

That may be I don't follow the mobile market but for a gaming handheld device that does what the PS Vita does and has, it is not overpriced.
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#115 kuraimen
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[QUOTE="kuraimen"]Does everybody forget that the 3DS was also selling poorly at the start and that they had to cut the price quickly? Chances are these companies already know that and they release the hardware at that price so that they can sell the first batch and then lower the price.Fizzman

And alienate their most loyal customers. Sound business strategy you got there. Nintendo did not plan on dropping the price of the 3DS. Sony doesnt plan to either, but they have no choice since Nintendo already did it.

Well the 3DS is selling like hotcakes now so they are doing pretty good. Seems to me all these doomsday predictions by fanboys who know nothing about how the industry works are quite ridiculous and we have been hearing the same thing over and over since 2007.
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#116 JohnF111
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[QUOTE="FlamesOfGrey"][QUOTE="Fizzman"]

I dont understand, why isnt an overpriced handheld with no games not selling very much?

This is gonna be another bad year for Sony since they will be forced to slash the price of the Vita and take in enormous losses............again.

Fizzman

Lulz what the PS Vita is not overpriced at all and it's launch line-up of games is good. Sony just doesn't have a Killer Ap for the Japanese gamers. Also, the one thing Sony did do very wrong were the memory card prices.

It is overpriced. A device that only plays games for 250 bucks is a rip off in today's market. You can thank Apple for that.

There is a reason why Nintendo had to drop the price of the 3DS.

Yeah there was a reason, it wasn't made for Movies, Music, Streaming or other multimedia functions. Vita has them incorporated and it appears it does it far better in all areas. It's just the 3DS was too limited and is only now getting updates to add these functionalities that add value to the device, potential buyers didn't see $250 of value in the 3DS but now with the better titles coming out and the Ambassador program thing and these newly added functions AND the price drop it's like there's a big "3DS on Sale now!" sign above it. It's human nature to grab the bargains and Vita has not been price dropped so it's less enticing to people.
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#117 Fizzman
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[QUOTE="Fizzman"]

It is a dedicated handheld gaming device. It's sole purpose is to play videogames.

Wanderer5

It doesn't have a sole purpose. Games are the main spotlight, but it has other purposes.

It sure does, but the consumer is buying the Vita for its gaming capabilities and in that regard its overpriced. Buy a smartphone which does everything the Vita does and make phonecalls or buy a Vita which just plays games and also requires a data plan. Sony screwed up again and thought the Vita wasnt competing with smartphones. Nintendo made the same mistake, but their brand name in mobile gaming is much mroe powerful than Sony's. Although the price drop is what saved Nintendo.

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#118 peterw007
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[QUOTE="Fizzman"]

[QUOTE="FlamesOfGrey"] Lulz what the PS Vita is not overpriced at all and it's launch line-up of games is good. Sony just doesn't have a Killer Ap for the Japanese gamers. Also, the one thing Sony did do very wrong were the memory card prices.FlamesOfGrey

It is overpriced. A device that only plays games for 250 bucks is a rip off in today's market. You can thank Apple for that.

There is a reason why Nintendo had to drop the price of the 3DS.

That may be I don't follow the mobile market but for a gaming handheld device that does what the PS Vita does and has, it is not overpriced.

No, its value is not overpriced. But the consumers see it as overpriced.

Therefore, it's overpriced.

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#119 Fizzman
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[QUOTE="Fizzman"]

[QUOTE="kuraimen"]Does everybody forget that the 3DS was also selling poorly at the start and that they had to cut the price quickly? Chances are these companies already know that and they release the hardware at that price so that they can sell the first batch and then lower the price.kuraimen

And alienate their most loyal customers. Sound business strategy you got there. Nintendo did not plan on dropping the price of the 3DS. Sony doesnt plan to either, but they have no choice since Nintendo already did it.

Well the 3DS is selling like hotcakes now so they are doing pretty good. Seems to me all these doomsday predictions by fanboys who know nothing about how the industry works are quite ridiculous and we have been hearing the same thing over and over since 2007.

Nintendo had to drop the price on their flagship handheld machine within what two months of release? Thats horrible and just shows that the portable gaming market as we know it is dying.

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#120 kuraimen
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[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="Fizzman"]

And alienate their most loyal customers. Sound business strategy you got there. Nintendo did not plan on dropping the price of the 3DS. Sony doesnt plan to either, but they have no choice since Nintendo already did it.

Fizzman

Well the 3DS is selling like hotcakes now so they are doing pretty good. Seems to me all these doomsday predictions by fanboys who know nothing about how the industry works are quite ridiculous and we have been hearing the same thing over and over since 2007.

Nintendo had to drop the price on their flagship handheld machine within what two months of release? Thats horrible and just shows that the portable gaming market as we know it is dying.

They sold 200 thousand units in a week. Far from dying if you ask me.
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#121 Fizzman
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[QUOTE="Fizzman"]

[QUOTE="kuraimen"] Well the 3DS is selling like hotcakes now so they are doing pretty good. Seems to me all these doomsday predictions by fanboys who know nothing about how the industry works are quite ridiculous and we have been hearing the same thing over and over since 2007.kuraimen

Nintendo had to drop the price on their flagship handheld machine within what two months of release? Thats horrible and just shows that the portable gaming market as we know it is dying.

They sold 200 thousand units in a week. Far from dying if you ask me.

This is the last gen of dedicated handheld gaming machines. Unless Nintendo and Sony want to go banrkupt.

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#122 Newhopes
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You think those numbers are bad just wait until it hits the UK.......

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#123 JohnF111
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[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="Fizzman"]

Nintendo had to drop the price on their flagship handheld machine within what two months of release? Thats horrible and just shows that the portable gaming market as we know it is dying.

Fizzman

They sold 200 thousand units in a week. Far from dying if you ask me.

This is the last gen of dedicated handheld gaming machines. Unless Nintendo and Sony want to go banrkupt.

Making one device will bankrupt Sony? I hardly think so. Unless they both completely dropped every other market and poured all of their financial support into one Handheld Gaming Machine then yeah maybe but saying they'll both go bankrupt if they make another system is laughable.
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#124 Fizzman
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[QUOTE="Fizzman"]

[QUOTE="kuraimen"] They sold 200 thousand units in a week. Far from dying if you ask me.JohnF111

This is the last gen of dedicated handheld gaming machines. Unless Nintendo and Sony want to go banrkupt.

Making one device will bankrupt Sony? I hardly think so. Unless they both completely dropped every other market and poured all of their financial support into one Handheld Gaming Machine then yeah maybe but saying they'll both go bankrupt if they make another system is laughable.

I wasnt being serious. The point is that they would be burning money if they plan to release a PSVIta 2 and 3DSSSS with the same premise, gaming is the primary feature.

They have to go down the smartphone route with their next iterations.

No one in their right mind is going to pay 40-50 bucks for hand held games in 4-5 years.

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#125 Newhopes
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[QUOTE="Fizzman"]

[QUOTE="kuraimen"] They sold 200 thousand units in a week. Far from dying if you ask me.JohnF111

This is the last gen of dedicated handheld gaming machines. Unless Nintendo and Sony want to go banrkupt.

Making one device will bankrupt Sony? I hardly think so. Unless they both completely dropped every other market and poured all of their financial support into one Handheld Gaming Machine then yeah maybe but saying they'll both go bankrupt if they make another system is laughable.

I doubt the Vita will sink Sony, but I also think alot people don't realise just how precarious Sonys position is ATM.

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#126 JohnF111
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[QUOTE="JohnF111"][QUOTE="Fizzman"]

This is the last gen of dedicated handheld gaming machines. Unless Nintendo and Sony want to go banrkupt.

Fizzman

Making one device will bankrupt Sony? I hardly think so. Unless they both completely dropped every other market and poured all of their financial support into one Handheld Gaming Machine then yeah maybe but saying they'll both go bankrupt if they make another system is laughable.

I wasnt being serious. The point is that they would be burning money if they plan to release a PSVIta 2 and 3DSSSS with the same premise, gaming is the primary feature.

They have to go down the smartphone route with their next iterations.

No one in their right mind is going to pay 40-50 bucks for hand held games in 4-5 years.

I see, yeah the markets are shifting more than ever so being a static gaming device would be a bad idea. Maybe if Sony released their games for Android with an improved Xperia Play. I recon the Xperia Play was a "testing the water" device to see how it was received and to see if Sony should pursue that direction.
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#127 peterw007
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[QUOTE="JohnF111"][QUOTE="Fizzman"]

This is the last gen of dedicated handheld gaming machines. Unless Nintendo and Sony want to go banrkupt.

Newhopes

Making one device will bankrupt Sony? I hardly think so. Unless they both completely dropped every other market and poured all of their financial support into one Handheld Gaming Machine then yeah maybe but saying they'll both go bankrupt if they make another system is laughable.

I doubt the Vita will sink Sony, but I also think alot people don't realise just how precarious Sonys position is ATM.

If the Vita fails, Sony will not produce another dedicated handheld console.

It only takes two consecutive gens of financial disasters in the console world before the company gives up.

Just look at Sega! Fourth gen Sega was riding sky high. By early sixth gen, the company withdrew from the console market.

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#128 Heil68
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Sony should drop handhelds and focus on console hardware and software.
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#129 Messiahbolical-
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Am I the only one who's shocked how popular COD is in Japan? I've seen it on the Media Create top sales list a bunch of times.
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#130 ActionRemix
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[QUOTE="Newhopes"]

[QUOTE="JohnF111"] Making one device will bankrupt Sony? I hardly think so. Unless they both completely dropped every other market and poured all of their financial support into one Handheld Gaming Machine then yeah maybe but saying they'll both go bankrupt if they make another system is laughable.peterw007

I doubt the Vita will sink Sony, but I also think alot people don't realise just how precarious Sonys position is ATM.

If the Vita fails, Sony will not produce another dedicated handheld console.

It only takes two consecutive gens of financial disasters in the console world before the company gives up.

Just look at Sega! Fourth gen Sega was riding sky high. By early sixth gen, the company withdrew from the console market.

Not necessarily. Microsoft's still in the hardware business, after all.
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#131 CajunShooter
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[QUOTE="mynameisburt"]Capcom sure made the right decision to go with Nintendo for Monster Hunter... Game is selling like a beast and its not even a mainline series game

There will eventually be a monster hunter on the Vita
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#132 helwa1988
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Just dance is selling better than uncharted for PSV lol.
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#133 kuraimen
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[QUOTE="JohnF111"][QUOTE="Fizzman"]

This is the last gen of dedicated handheld gaming machines. Unless Nintendo and Sony want to go banrkupt.

Newhopes

Making one device will bankrupt Sony? I hardly think so. Unless they both completely dropped every other market and poured all of their financial support into one Handheld Gaming Machine then yeah maybe but saying they'll both go bankrupt if they make another system is laughable.

I doubt the Vita will sink Sony, but I also think alot people don't realise just how precarious Sonys position is ATM.

People have been saying the same thing since 2007 :roll:
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#134 finalstar2007
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oh man i really cant wait for next month to pick up my vita :D. system looks awesome! come on Square do your magic and start developing some final fantasy games on it!

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#135 HalcyonScarlet
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lol last week when it was 70k, I was like, wait lets give it time. But now 40k, thats really low. I thought Sony were acting like, "all the pre-orders are allocated". But people still rather PSPs and DSs. Then again they probably cost a quarter of the price.

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#136 ActionRemix
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oh man i really cant wait for next month to pick up my vita :D. system looks awesome! come on Square do your magic and start developing some final fantasy games on it!

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It's too late. They're already thinking of re-releasing FF7 on 3DS.
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#137 JohnF111
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oh man i really cant wait for next month to pick up my vita :D. system looks awesome! come on Square do your magic and start developing some final fantasy games on it!

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Wow i never noticed how close it is, i was always under the assumption that it was 3 months away, now it's not even two months away!
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#138 HalcyonScarlet
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Just dance is selling better than uncharted for PSV lol.helwa1988

I heard that Unchartered cost more. Like while other games will cost $40 Unchartered will cost $50 or something.

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#139 Newhopes
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[QUOTE="Newhopes"]

[QUOTE="JohnF111"] Making one device will bankrupt Sony? I hardly think so. Unless they both completely dropped every other market and poured all of their financial support into one Handheld Gaming Machine then yeah maybe but saying they'll both go bankrupt if they make another system is laughable.kuraimen

I doubt the Vita will sink Sony, but I also think alot people don't realise just how precarious Sonys position is ATM.

People have been saying the same thing since 2007 :roll:


Do you even know how badly Sony are doing financially?

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#140 CajunShooter
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oh man i really cant wait for next month to pick up my vita :D. system looks awesome! come on Square do your magic and start developing some final fantasy games on it!

finalstar2007
I can't wait either. Mine is fully paid off and waiting for February 22nd so I can pick up that beast.
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#141 CajunShooter
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lol last week when it was 70k, I was like, wait lets give it time. But now 40k, thats really low. I thought Sony were acting like, "all the pre-orders are allocated". But people still rather PSPs and DSs. Then again they probably cost a quarter of the price.

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3DS suffered through some tough months too. I think the Vita just doesn't have a real system seller game for the Japanese market as of now.
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#142 casharmy
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Honestly sony should have made Vita a decicated smartphone game macheine and maybe I would have even gotten it. Putting all that tech in it and ignoring most that people are more cofortable with their phonesdoing everything tech wisewas a bad business move.

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#143 lbjkurono23
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Don't worry sony, I'll buy your system. :P

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#144 CanYouDiglt
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Funny stuff. I love watching the damage control from the Sony warriors.
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#145 Messiahbolical-
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Honestly sony should have made Vita a decicated smartphone game macheine and maybe I would have even gotten it. Putting all that tech in it and ignoring most that people are more cofortable with their phonesdoing everything tech wisewas a bad business move.

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Did you forget about the Xperia Play? I'd bet money that Sony makes a phone version of the Vita in a couple of years once they have the technology to make the Vita with the same specs but in a much more small and compact form. It's just a matter of time. For now though, the Vita is just too big to sell as a phone. Phones aren't supposed to be so big that they can barely fit in most pockets.
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#146 Kingpin0114
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More terrible numbers for the Vita. IMO it will flop in the West as well.

Been a rough few months for Cows.

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#147 lbjkurono23
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[QUOTE="casharmy"]

Honestly sony should have made Vita a decicated smartphone game macheine and maybe I would have even gotten it. Putting all that tech in it and ignoring most that people are more cofortable with their phonesdoing everything tech wisewas a bad business move.

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Did you forget about the Xperia Play? I'd bet money that Sony makes a phone version of the Vita in a couple of years once they have the technology to make the Vita with the same specs but in a much more small and compact form. It's just a matter of time. For now though, the Vita is just too big to sell as a phone. Phones aren't supposed to be so big that they can barely fit in most pockets.

Well sony bought Ericcson(sp?), so it could be next step.

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#148 IPWNDU2
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RIP Sony

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#149 ydnarrewop
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Cheers to Sony for giving so many people something to banter about :D
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#150 PillyChickle
Member since 2011 • 745 Posts

And with the holiday period over, it's only going to get worse from here. Sony are idiots.