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#151 Chris_Williams
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Febuarary 22 can't come fast enough

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#152 lbjkurono23
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Febuarary 22 can't come fast enough

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You getting it on launch!? D: I want to, but I'm a bit concerned about being an early adopter.
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#153 JohnF111
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"Febuarary 22 can't come fast enough" - Sony

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Fixed :P [spoiler] Joke! [/spoiler]
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#154 p4s2p0
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And with the holiday period over, it's only going to get worse from here. Sony are idiots.

PillyChickle
Actually it will get better as it has only been released in the lowest selling area japan
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#155 TheEroica  Moderator
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oh man i really cant wait for next month to pick up my vita :D. system looks awesome! come on Square do your magic and start developing some final fantasy games on it!

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So youre excited for the disappointing developers games on the disappointing handheld? Sound like fun.
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#156 LaytonsCat
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[QUOTE="Mario1331"]

how is SS a flop? it sold 1.5 million already?

charizard1605

In Japan, it only sold 250k units. My observations all apply to Japan ONLY.

Zelda was never big in Japan like Metroid. I believe Wind Waker is the highest selling Zelda game in Japan, while OoT, TP and I assume soon to be SS beat it globablly

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#157 JohnF111
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And with the holiday period over, it's only going to get worse from here. Sony are idiots.

PillyChickle
Japan has 0.5% of the population being Christians so... What holiday season I hear you say? Japan only celebrate christmas on small scale by giving small little gifts like a teddy bear or a book, not by buying expensive devices like Western Countries.
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#158 GunSmith1_basic
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[QUOTE="PillyChickle"]

And with the holiday period over, it's only going to get worse from here. Sony are idiots.

JohnF111

Japan has 0.5% of the population being Christians so... What holiday season I hear you say? Japan only celebrate christmas on small scale by giving small little gifts like a teddy bear or a book, not by buying expensive devices like Western Countries.

Xmas is still huge in Japan. Look at the 3DS sales.

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#159 Planeforger
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Actually it will get better as it has only been released in the lowest selling area japanp4s2p0

I really don't think Japan is the lowest-selling area in the world, especially for Japense handhelds. For example, 200,000 3DS units were sold in Japan last week. :P

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#160 CanYouDiglt
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For all the Sony cheerleaders saying just wait till it is launched in NA. Launching a console 2 months after the holiday season is a pure stupid idea. Most families just either bought or received the electronics they want, spent most of their savings on gifts, or are busy paying off gifts they bought earlier. To make it worse Japan is where handhelds do best and America is in general more interested phones, ipad, ect. The very best case scenario for Sony is there is a decent launch sales wise and then sales drop like a rock. I doubt it will even have a decent launch though.
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#161 PillyChickle
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[QUOTE="PillyChickle"]

And with the holiday period over, it's only going to get worse from here. Sony are idiots.

p4s2p0

Actually it will get better as it has only been released in the lowest selling area japan

What?

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#162 JohnF111
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[QUOTE="JohnF111"][QUOTE="PillyChickle"]

And with the holiday period over, it's only going to get worse from here. Sony are idiots.

GunSmith1_basic

Japan has 0.5% of the population being Christians so... What holiday season I hear you say? Japan only celebrate christmas on small scale by giving small little gifts like a teddy bear or a book, not by buying expensive devices like Western Countries.

Xmas is still huge in Japan. Look at the 3DS sales.

Oh you mean the same week 3 system sellers were released? Trust me the 700k sales has so little to do with Christmas it's laughable. If Xmas is so huge then why was it only 3DS that sold so well?

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#163 lazerface216
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[QUOTE="PillyChickle"]

And with the holiday period over, it's only going to get worse from here. Sony are idiots.

JohnF111

Japan has 0.5% of the population being Christians so... What holiday season I hear you say? Japan only celebrate christmas on small scale by giving small little gifts like a teddy bear or a book, not by buying expensive devices like Western Countries.

is this fact? because the vast majority of non christians celebrate christmas.

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[QUOTE="PillyChickle"]

And with the holiday period over, it's only going to get worse from here. Sony are idiots.

JohnF111

Japan has 0.5% of the population being Christians so... What holiday season I hear you say? Japan only celebrate christmas on small scale by giving small little gifts like a teddy bear or a book, not by buying expensive devices like Western Countries.

They don't have Christmas trees (or if they do, small plastic ones) and Christmas Day is a regular work day, but the Japanese still exchange gifts during Christmas.

The holiday season in general has become a gift-giving season in many countries around the world.

Even if they don't care about "the birth of Jesus," that doesn't mean they don't like giving each other gifts.

Japanese people in general love to give gifts to other Japanese.

Traditionally the Japanese haven't given large gifts at Christmas, but they're giving larger and larger gifts every year...especially for the Japanese children that want to receive gifts from "Santa-san."

The PlayStation Vita most certainly would benefit from being released around Christmas...maybe not 10 years ago, but definitely today.

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#165 JohnF111
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[QUOTE="JohnF111"][QUOTE="PillyChickle"]

And with the holiday period over, it's only going to get worse from here. Sony are idiots.

lazerface216

Japan has 0.5% of the population being Christians so... What holiday season I hear you say? Japan only celebrate christmas on small scale by giving small little gifts like a teddy bear or a book, not by buying expensive devices like Western Countries.

is this fact? because the vast majority of non christians celebrate christmas.

Im non christian yet celebrate it, it's more a culture thing than religion now though. Japan just has a totally different culture.
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#166 GunSmith1_basic
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[QUOTE="GunSmith1_basic"]

[QUOTE="JohnF111"] Japan has 0.5% of the population being Christians so... What holiday season I hear you say? Japan only celebrate christmas on small scale by giving small little gifts like a teddy bear or a book, not by buying expensive devices like Western Countries.JohnF111

Xmas is still huge in Japan. Look at the 3DS sales.

Oh you mean the same week a system seller was released? Trust me the 700k sales has so little to do with Christmas it's laughable. If Xmas is so huge then why was it only 3DS that sold so well?

it's still a gift giving holiday there, although not an official holiday
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#167 JohnF111
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[QUOTE="JohnF111"][QUOTE="PillyChickle"]

And with the holiday period over, it's only going to get worse from here. Sony are idiots.

peterw007

Japan has 0.5% of the population being Christians so... What holiday season I hear you say? Japan only celebrate christmas on small scale by giving small little gifts like a teddy bear or a book, not by buying expensive devices like Western Countries.

They don't have Christmas trees (or if they do, small plastic ones) and Christmas Day is a work holiday, but the Japanese still exchange gifts during Christmas.

The holiday season in general has become a gift-giving season in many countries around the world, even if they don't care about "the birth of Jesus," that doesn't mean they don't like giving each other gifts.

Japanese people in general love to give gifts to other Japanese.

Traditionally the Japanese haven't given large gifts at Christmas, but they're giving larger and larger gifts every year...especially for the Japanese children that want to receive gifts from "Santa-san."

The PlayStation Vita most certainly would benefit from being released around Christmas...maybe not 10 years ago, but definitely today.

That's basically what i said apart from the larger and larger gifts each year part.
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#168 lazerface216
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[QUOTE="lazerface216"]

[QUOTE="JohnF111"] Japan has 0.5% of the population being Christians so... What holiday season I hear you say? Japan only celebrate christmas on small scale by giving small little gifts like a teddy bear or a book, not by buying expensive devices like Western Countries.JohnF111

is this fact? because the vast majority of non christians celebrate christmas.

Im non christian yet celebrate it, it's more a culture thing than religion now though. Japan just has a totally different culture.

i can see that.

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#169 peterw007
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[QUOTE="peterw007"]

[QUOTE="JohnF111"] Japan has 0.5% of the population being Christians so... What holiday season I hear you say? Japan only celebrate christmas on small scale by giving small little gifts like a teddy bear or a book, not by buying expensive devices like Western Countries.JohnF111

They don't have Christmas trees (or if they do, small plastic ones) and Christmas Day is a work holiday, but the Japanese still exchange gifts during Christmas.

The holiday season in general has become a gift-giving season in many countries around the world, even if they don't care about "the birth of Jesus," that doesn't mean they don't like giving each other gifts.

Japanese people in general love to give gifts to other Japanese.

Traditionally the Japanese haven't given large gifts at Christmas, but they're giving larger and larger gifts every year...especially for the Japanese children that want to receive gifts from "Santa-san."

The PlayStation Vita most certainly would benefit from being released around Christmas...maybe not 10 years ago, but definitely today.

That's basically what i said apart from the larger and larger gifts each year part.

I was trying to establish that the Japanese are adopting more and more Western trends when it comes to holidays.

They might buy their daughter jewelery, or their son a PlayStation Vita.

Stores are definitely crowded in places like Akihabara during the holiday season.

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#170 JohnF111
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[QUOTE="JohnF111"][QUOTE="peterw007"]

They don't have Christmas trees (or if they do, small plastic ones) and Christmas Day is a work holiday, but the Japanese still exchange gifts during Christmas.

The holiday season in general has become a gift-giving season in many countries around the world, even if they don't care about "the birth of Jesus," that doesn't mean they don't like giving each other gifts.

Japanese people in general love to give gifts to other Japanese.

Traditionally the Japanese haven't given large gifts at Christmas, but they're giving larger and larger gifts every year...especially for the Japanese children that want to receive gifts from "Santa-san."

The PlayStation Vita most certainly would benefit from being released around Christmas...maybe not 10 years ago, but definitely today.

peterw007

That's basically what i said apart from the larger and larger gifts each year part.

I was trying to establish that the Japanese are adopting more and more Western trends when it comes to holidays.

They might buy their daughter jewelery, or their son a PlayStation Vita.

Stores are definitely crowded in places like Akihabara during the holiday season.

Yeah true, won't be long until the world is just one huge culture i guess.
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#171 yoshi_64
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[QUOTE="lazerface216"]

[QUOTE="JohnF111"] Japan has 0.5% of the population being Christians so... What holiday season I hear you say? Japan only celebrate christmas on small scale by giving small little gifts like a teddy bear or a book, not by buying expensive devices like Western Countries.JohnF111

is this fact? because the vast majority of non christians celebrate christmas.

Im non christian yet celebrate it, it's more a culture thing than religion now though. Japan just has a totally different culture.

It's funny how you say that, it's not a "tradition" thing otherwise we wouldn't have this "Holiday" crap in everything. "Happy Holidays!" to be exact. Christmas is based on religion, whether or not you celebrate it for religious reasons does not have to apply. In fact, it makes no sense for people to celebrate it when they're not Christian, because the whole purpose of Christmas is to celebrate the birth of Jesus Christ, if you don't believe in that,w hy the hell do you bother with the gift giving and things that really aren't even the whole point of Christmas? :/
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#172 PillyChickle
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What have I unleashed in this thread? :|

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#173 peterw007
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[QUOTE="JohnF111"][QUOTE="lazerface216"]

is this fact? because the vast majority of non christians celebrate christmas.

yoshi_64

Im non christian yet celebrate it, it's more a culture thing than religion now though. Japan just has a totally different culture.

It's funny how you say that, it's not a "tradition" thing otherwise we wouldn't have this "Holiday" crap in everything. "Happy Holidays!" to be exact. Christmas is based on religion, whether or not you celebrate it for religious reasons does not have to apply. In fact, it makes no sense for people to celebrate it when they're not Christian, because the whole purpose of Christmas is to celebrate the birth of Jesus Christ, if you don't believe in that,w hy the hell do you bother with the gift giving and things that really aren't even the whole point of Christmas? :/

Because it's fun.

Ever heard of the Christmas spirit? The thrill of spending time with family, playing holiday music and eating Christmas dinner?

That's why the Japanese celebrate it...it's just something fun they like to do. I'm not sure they even realize it's a "religious" holiday.

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#174 Yangire
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if you don't believe in that,w hy the hell do you bother with the gift giving and things that really aren't even the whole point of Christmas? yoshi_64

Because it's free ****, who doesn't like that?

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#175 Chris_Williams
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[QUOTE="Chris_Williams"]

Febuarary 22 can't come fast enough

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You getting it on launch!? D: I want to, but I'm a bit concerned about being an early adopter.

i'm planning on it but if i hear rumors from reliable sources that a price drop could happen then i'll wait on it, but for now the plan is February 22.
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#176 bonesawisready5
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This doom and gloom over the PSvita is kind of irritating. Don't ya'll realise it's going to sell like hot cakes in the US and the rest of the world, not to mention the 3DS had similary bad sales at the beginning because there were barely any games.

If they lower the price later on and if the library gets stronger, i think this war will be over.

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Yes the PSV will sell like hotcakes in America just like the PSP did, oh wait.
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#177 PillyChickle
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Fact of the matter is that the holiday period in Japan is the biggest time of the year commercially as it is in western nations.

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#178 bonesawisready5
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[QUOTE="GunSmith1_basic"]

[QUOTE="JohnF111"] Japan has 0.5% of the population being Christians so... What holiday season I hear you say? Japan only celebrate christmas on small scale by giving small little gifts like a teddy bear or a book, not by buying expensive devices like Western Countries.JohnF111

Xmas is still huge in Japan. Look at the 3DS sales.

Oh you mean the same week 3 system sellers were released? Trust me the 700k sales has so little to do with Christmas it's laughable. If Xmas is so huge then why was it only 3DS that sold so well?

No. Actually Monster Hunter was released Dec. 10, Mario Kart Dec. 3rd, and Mario Land in November. So that doesn't explain 480k 3DS units selling the week of Dec 19-25
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I already knew most people are stupid with crappy taste, there's nothing new here

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In fact, it makes no sense for people to celebrate it when they're not Christian, because the whole purpose of Christmas is to celebrate the birth of Jesus Christ, if you don't believe in that,w hy the hell do you bother with the gift giving and things that really aren't even the whole point of Christmas? :/ yoshi_64

I'm not Christian and I celebrate it.

It's hardly celebrated as a religious holiday anymore, it's a heavily commercialized event. I don't know anyone who celebrates it as the birth of Jesus.

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#181 mario-galaxys
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[QUOTE="PillyChickle"]

And with the holiday period over, it's only going to get worse from here. Sony are idiots.

JohnF111

Japan has 0.5% of the population being Christians so... What holiday season I hear you say? Japan only celebrate christmas on small scale by giving small little gifts like a teddy bear or a book, not by buying expensive devices like Western Countries.

I hope you and everyone is aware that New Years' is the biggest holiday among the Japanese, not Christmas.

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Wake up call for sony.

Start focusing your attention on the west.

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#183 peterw007
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[QUOTE="JohnF111"][QUOTE="PillyChickle"]

And with the holiday period over, it's only going to get worse from here. Sony are idiots.

mario-galaxys

Japan has 0.5% of the population being Christians so... What holiday season I hear you say? Japan only celebrate christmas on small scale by giving small little gifts like a teddy bear or a book, not by buying expensive devices like Western Countries.

I hope you and everyone is aware that New Years' is the biggest holiday among the Japanese, not Christmas.

New Years may be the most important holiday in Japan, but that doesn't mean it's a time to buy big gifts for others like the Vita.

People give post cards and food to each other during the Japanese New Year...and money for kids to go out and have fun at the festivities.

It's much more traditional.

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[QUOTE="yoshi_64"]In fact, it makes no sense for people to celebrate it when they're not Christian, because the whole purpose of Christmas is to celebrate the birth of Jesus Christ, if you don't believe in that,w hy the hell do you bother with the gift giving and things that really aren't even the whole point of Christmas? :/ Haziqonfire

I'm not Christian and I celebrate it.

It's hardly celebrated as a religious holiday anymore, it's a heavily commercialized event. I don't know anyone who celebrates it as the birth of Jesus.

You may not know anyone that does it because of the people you associate with. Next Christmas drive by some churches or the night before and they will be packed. Also during the Christmas dinner they will pray. I agree with Yoshi to me it does not make sense to celebrate a religious holiday if you do not even believe in the faith. I do not celebrate Hanukkah because I am not jewish even though I could get gifts if I did.
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#185 kuraimen
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Wake up call for sony.

Start focusing your attention on the west.

eboyishere
I think that's actually their problem. They should focus on the east like they did with the PS2 and fill their systems with good jrpgs.
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#186 ActionRemix
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[QUOTE="Haziqonfire"]

[QUOTE="yoshi_64"]In fact, it makes no sense for people to celebrate it when they're not Christian, because the whole purpose of Christmas is to celebrate the birth of Jesus Christ, if you don't believe in that,w hy the hell do you bother with the gift giving and things that really aren't even the whole point of Christmas? :/ CanYouDiglt

I'm not Christian and I celebrate it.

It's hardly celebrated as a religious holiday anymore, it's a heavily commercialized event. I don't know anyone who celebrates it as the birth of Jesus.

You may not know anyone that does it because of the people you associate with. Next Christmas drive by some churches or the night before and they will be packed. Also during the Christmas dinner they will pray. I agree with Yoshi to me it does not make sense to celebrate a religious holiday if you do not even believe in the faith. I do not celebrate Hanukkah because I am not jewish even though I could get gifts if I did.

Christmas was a non-religious holiday long before Jesus showed up so I think it makes complete sense. Christmas is a secular holiday in America regardless of the fact that Christians celebrate the birth of Jesus.
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#187 super600  Moderator
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These numbers are horrible.If sony's smart they will pay for a really popular exclusive franchise the Japanese like to sell the handheld and maybe price drop the handheld if they can. They Vita isn't doomed yet.

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#188 eboyishere
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Wake up call for sony.

Start focusing your attention on the west.

kuraimen

I think that's actually their problem. They should focus on the east like they did with the PS2 and fill their systems with good jrpgs.

Nothing against japan but have they really put out alot of quality titles as quick as the US/EU does?

i mean ND,Santa monica studios,Gorilla Games, insomniac, can put out titles quicker and possibly a litte better. The only one to make big waves this gen was FF13(imo)

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#189 GunSmith1_basic
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[QUOTE="yoshi_64"]In fact, it makes no sense for people to celebrate it when they're not Christian, because the whole purpose of Christmas is to celebrate the birth of Jesus Christ, if you don't believe in that,w hy the hell do you bother with the gift giving and things that really aren't even the whole point of Christmas? :/ Haziqonfire

I'm not Christian and I celebrate it.

It's hardly celebrated as a religious holiday anymore, it's a heavily commercialized event. I don't know anyone who celebrates it as the birth of Jesus.

HEATHEN :o

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Can we drop the religious discussion here? This is not Off-Topic Discussion and instead we should be focusing on why the PlayStation Vita sold poorly in Japan.
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#191 ActionRemix
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Can we drop the religious discussion here? This is not Off-Topic Discussion and instead we should be focusing on why the PlayStation Vita sold poorly in Japan. mario-galaxys
Why? Cows are blaming the poor Vita sales on irreligion in Japan.
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#192 arkephonic
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The more I think about it, the more it makes sense for the Vita to fail. Nintendo is the king of handhelds, and even they had a really rough start with the 3DS. The 3DS would have failed if it weren't for the price cut and games. I think people are really underestimating the impact smartphones are having on the handheld market.
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#193 Doolz2024
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Even the original PSP outsold the Vita. :lol:
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#194 Chris_Williams
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Even the original PSP outsold the Vita. :lol:Doolz2024
yeah because the DS wasn't outselling the 3DS when it first launch
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#195 Eponique
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[QUOTE="Doolz2024"]Even the original PSP outsold the Vita. :lol:Chris_Williams
yeah because the DS wasn't outselling the 3DS when it first launch

Not in Japan. Disappointing sales for Sony, and awesome Monster Hunter sales.
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#196 Chris_Williams
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[QUOTE="Chris_Williams"][QUOTE="Doolz2024"]Even the original PSP outsold the Vita. :lol:Eponique
yeah because the DS wasn't outselling the 3DS when it first launch

Not in Japan. Disappointing sales for Sony, and awesome Monster Hunter sales.

fair enough, then the original psp outsold the 3DS when it launch in Japan, har har har am i doing it right?
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#197 peterw007
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[QUOTE="Doolz2024"]Even the original PSP outsold the Vita. :lol:Chris_Williams
yeah because the DS wasn't outselling the 3DS when it first launch

That's right. The 3DS destroyed the DS when it launched.

On the second week (first 7 days after the launch of the 3DS), the 3DS sold 209k while the DS sold 17k.

On the third week (equal to where Vita is at right now) the 3DS sold 96k while the DS sold 13k.

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When the 3DS launched, it outsold the PSP 2 to 1 in its third week.

And yet the PSP is outselling the Vita in its third week.

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#198 Chris_Williams
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[QUOTE="Chris_Williams"][QUOTE="Doolz2024"]Even the original PSP outsold the Vita. :lol:peterw007

yeah because the DS wasn't outselling the 3DS when it first launch

That's right. The 3DS destroyed the DS when it launched.

On the second week (first 7 days after the launch of the 3DS), the 3DS sold 209k while the DS sold 17k.

On the third week (equal to where Vita is at right now) the 3DS sold 96k while the DS sold 13k.

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When the 3DS launched, it outsold the PSP 2 to 1 in its third week.

And yet the PSP is outselling the Vita in its third week.

February 22, baby
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#199 mario-galaxys
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Disappointing sales for Sony, and awesome Monster Hunter sales.Eponique
Next week, Monster Hunter 3G will break the million sales mark in Japan (the third 3DS game to do so) and may out-sell the original Wii version.

For a main Final Fantasy game, the sales for Final Fantasy XIII-2 are quite disappointing as the main games are usually multi-million sellers. It has yet to break the million sales mark.

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#200 Gamingclone
Member since 2009 • 5224 Posts

The Wii has a alot of software up there this week.

I see the 3DS is still on fire.

Hope the vita is able to get some footing soon.