MGS4 down to 92.5% on Gamerankings

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#251 TheForgotten0ne
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I'm not shocked that MGS4 is not on top on Gamerankings. Since it's a game you either love or hate.

But I'm shocked that Halo 3 is that far up, I know it was over hyped. Critics loved it, and I have seen people threaten reviewers who gave it a low score. But I still don't think it's good!

But I really don't care about scores, I buy the game I think looks cool. Diablo 2 is one of the best games I have played and it "only" 8.7 or something. But thats great aswell, but in this world thats "only"

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#252 Kez1984
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i always have said this but the playstation is the only system that has games that burns a everlasting image in people souls, Metal Gear Solid, MGS4, Final Fantasy 7, Xenogears Final Fantasy 10, Front Mission 3,God Of War 1 and 2............the xbox just doesnt have that epicness, because theylack talented japanessedevs.......im mean they could have one with mystwalkers or whatever they're called........but there games have been flops.Syn_Valence

By that you mean they have Bioware, who made Baldur's Gate, which defecates on JRPG's?

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#253 TheForgotten0ne
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[QUOTE="AgentA-Mi6"]

Mgs4 Outscored every 360 exclusive game to date on Gs, Only Gs scores count for ownage.

MGS4 10.0>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Gears Of War 9.6

You guys were deeply hurt by that one apparently, still trying to downplay Mgs4 success :roll: :lol:

jbz7890

Where have I ever denied that MGS4 is AAAA on gamespot? All I said was that it is ranked lower than many other games this gen on Gamerankings.

He was probably talking to lemmings in general. You see that cows have used other sites to show that their games were great, and lemmings said it's GameSpot that counts. And now it's
"Cows gone Wild"

And yeah, I call my self a cow, just not a mad one :D

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#254 sonicmj1
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[QUOTE="sonicmj1"]

Gamerankings doesn't tell you whether one game is better than another. It tells you what game has a higher average of review scores across print and web publications.

Using Gamerankings (or any review score) as gospel to tell you whether one game is better than another is foolish. Especially at the point where we're niggling between varying shades of 9+, relative quality is completely subjective.

Having played both to completion, I personally find MGS4 much better than Gears of War.

jbz7890

Yeah right.

Do you want me to post my gamercard? I'd rather not, but I could if you really don't believe me.

I'd rather not post it, because I like to keep my GT private, and because I'd only be encouraging you distracting attention from my arguments with an unwarranted attack on my credibility.

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#255 Oriental_Jams
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Damn, so I wasn't meant to enjoy it as much as I did? Crap, guess I'll just have to play it through again, knowing that it wasn't as good as Oblivion, which I couldn't enjoy at all.
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#256 TheForgotten0ne
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[QUOTE="sonicmj1"][QUOTE="jbz7890"]

Gears is better than MGS4, and thats not my opinion, its based on Gamerankings.

jbz7890

Gamerankings doesn't tell you whether one game is better than another. It tells you what game has a higher average of review scores across print and web publications.

Using Gamerankings (or any review score) as gospel to tell you whether one game is better than another is foolish. Especially at the point where we're niggling between varying shades of 9+, relative quality is completely subjective.

Having played both to completion, I personally find MGS4 much better than Gears of War.

Yeah right.

Don't be stupid kiddo.

What he says is the truth. Don't ignore it, learn from it.

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#257 jbz7890
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Damn, so I wasn't meant to enjoy it as much as I did? Crap, guess I'll just have to play it through again, knowing that it wasn't as good as Oblivion, which I couldn't enjoy at all.Oriental_Jams

Nah you should just throw it away and go back to playing Oblivion :P

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#258 Pariah_001
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Well when I said that Gears of War was one of the greatest games of all time, people attacked me. jbz7890

Meaning that you made this threaqd out of bitterness.

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#259 jbz7890
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[QUOTE="jbz7890"]

Well when I said that Gears of War was one of the greatest games of all time, people attacked me. Pariah_001

Meaning that you made this threaqd out of bitterness.

No I created this "threaqd" to try to clear up some of the major inconsistencies in System Wars.

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#260 AgentA-Mi6
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yet it manage to outsell every MGS game, halo is most popular than your borefest movie mgs4.

hungryheart077

Lol I dont play sales or popularity, and you opinion doesnt affect nor change mine. Halo is a generic first Person shooter imo, meaningless to me.

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#261 Fox-X
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Every time i put halo 3 in my xbox i think to my self... why am i playing this. IMO it gets boring after a while. i

Im getting MGS 4 soon and im going to enjoy it.

Gears of war.... yeah same as Halo, beat the game and then play against people glitching and people that are too good to even compete with.

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#262 Lionheart08
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What happened to Gamerankings not mattering? I know lems liked to all out how Cows suddenly loved GS because of MGS4's scores, but the same can be said about the other way around.

Gamerankings can also be considered inaccurate as well because console specific magazines are not considered reliable.

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#263 Kez1984
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[QUOTE="hungryheart077"]

yet it manage to outsell every MGS game, halo is most popular than your borefest movie mgs4.

AgentA-Mi6

Lol I dont play sales or popularity

You are right I believe.

I Am Legend, with the name tag "Will Smith" as a lead made a shedloads of money, The Seventh Seal didn't, it was art house, yet it's a better more inteligent movie. Popularity does not automatically mean better. Pc's games are Ingmar Bergman, Consoles are mass market movies with the tag "Will Smith" on the end. When it comes down to it, you are both below the pc, but that's ok, you are still good for what you are.

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#264 stepat201
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What happened to Gamespot scores only lemmings? I thought GR didn't count because if it did it would give the cows and sheep an extra AAA each?

lol lemmings.

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#265 Lionheart08
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What happened to Gamespot scores only lemmings? I thought GR didn't count because if it did it would give the cows and sheep an extra AAA each?

lol lemmings.

stepat201

They started wanted to use GR the same time Cows dropped their beef against GS scores. It's just funny when group like to call hypocrisy on the other.

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#266 Lionheart08
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[QUOTE="AgentA-Mi6"]

[QUOTE="hungryheart077"]

yet it manage to outsell every MGS game, halo is most popular than your borefest movie mgs4.

Kez1984

Lol I dont play sales or popularity

You are right I believe.

I Am Legend, with the name tag "Will Smith" as a lead made a shedloads of money, The Seventh Seal didn't, it was art house, yet it's a better more inteligent movie. Popularity does not automatically mean better. Pc's games are Ingmar Bergman, Consoles are mass market movies with the tag "Will Smith" on the end. When it comes down to it, you are both below the pc, but that's ok, you are still good for what you are.

I Am Legend was good though. :|

If your going to pick a Will Smith movie that took off beause of his name, go with I Robot.

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#267 Microsoft1234
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[QUOTE="st1ka"]

[QUOTE="Gamersince81"]10 out of 10. greatest game ever made!! Go to another board if you dont like!! Have a nice day!! Gamersince81

sarcasm?

Did it not get a 10 out of 10 on GS? YES OR NO? By the way imo... IT IS THE GREATEST GAME I PLAYED IN 24 YEARS OF GAMING. Have a nice day!!!

sure its a good game, but 10 out of 10 here isn't the same as the original 4 that recieved it, with the scale a 10 doesn't mean perfect like soul calibur and the others were deemed, but with the trolls stop complaining mgs4 is a great game

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#269 jbz7890
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i like men and i like the 360 so all 360 lovers are men loversst1kka

You just make Cows look even more pathetic and desperate.

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#270 st1ka
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[QUOTE="st1kka"]i like men and i like the 360 so all 360 lovers are men loversjbz7890

You just make Cows look even more pathetic and desperate.

i dont think hes a cow

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#271 Microsoft1234
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[QUOTE="st1kka"]i like men and i like the 360 so all 360 lovers are men loversjbz7890

You just make yourself look even more pathetic and desperate.

fixed

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#272 Kez1984
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[QUOTE="Kez1984"][QUOTE="AgentA-Mi6"]

[QUOTE="hungryheart077"]

yet it manage to outsell every MGS game, halo is most popular than your borefest movie mgs4.

Lionheart08

Lol I dont play sales or popularity

You are right I believe.

I Am Legend, with the name tag "Will Smith" as a lead made a shedloads of money, The Seventh Seal didn't, it was art house, yet it's a better more inteligent movie. Popularity does not automatically mean better. Pc's games are Ingmar Bergman, Consoles are mass market movies with the tag "Will Smith" on the end. When it comes down to it, you are both below the pc, but that's ok, you are still good for what you are.

I Am Legend was good though. :|

If your going to pick a Will Smith movie that took off beause of his name, go with I Robot.

I'm sorry, was that not arrogant enough? Wild Wild West as the analogy next time.

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#273 stepat201
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[QUOTE="st1kka"]i like men and i like the 360 so all 360 lovers are men loversjbz7890

You just make Cows look even more pathetic and desperate.

And you're not doing the same thing for lemmings by making this thread. :roll:

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#274 thrones
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[QUOTE="st1kka"]i like men and i like the 360 so all 360 lovers are men loversjbz7890

You just make Cows look even more pathetic and desperate.

And you gave GTA4 on the PS3 1.0. For lemmings,
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#275 Zeliard9
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It's reasons like this why this gen is such a mess. People get far too caught up on stupid numbers. A lot of you are the sad types of people who would have ignored games like Deus Ex and System Shock 2 because they got below AAA from Gamespot.
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#276 WilliamRLBaker
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It's reasons like this why this gen is such a mess. People get far too caught up on stupid numbers. A lot of you are the sad types of people who would have ignored games like Deus Ex and System Shock 2 because they got below AAA from Gamespot.Zeliard9

I loved deus ex i must have played that game a million times, and system shock 2? lol wow i still play that daily even if for just a few minutes.

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#277 Dahaka-UK
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Just shows.. That site is meaningless when MGS4 happens to be below some of those games you listed TC. And thats all you proven by making this thread.
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#278 Saturos3091
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MGS4, worse than Oblivion? God almighty, I hope you don't believe that.

z_gaming_master


I think so, but that's just my opinion. 92.7% is still a great score though, no matter what a stupid average-based review site says.

Also:



:P
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#279 InsaneBasura
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Oh my, the horror...
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#280 sonicmj1
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It's reasons like this why this gen is such a mess. People get far too caught up on stupid numbers. A lot of you are the sad types of people who would have ignored games like Deus Ex and System Shock 2 because they got below AAA from Gamespot.Zeliard9

But I thought that a number from my favorite review site or review site aggregator accurately determined a game's quality!

:o

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#281 excelR83
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Too bad Gamespot scores are all that matter.
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#282 WilliamRLBaker
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If gamerankings doesn't accurately depict a games score, then neither does gamespot because if a review aggregator *im drunk* isn't valid then why would a single review be valid?

cant have both people. which is why i will continue to use gamerankings or metacritic because its much more accurate then single reviews, mgs4 is not a 10 its a 9.2 most definately.
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#283 Kez1984
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Oh my, the horror...InsaneBasura

I assume he is not running the game at max or it's a bad screen-shot.

Pc/mods/skins

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#284 Saturos3091
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If gamerankings doesn't accurately depict a games score, then neither does gamespot because if a review aggregator *im drunk* isn't valid then why would a single review be valid?

cant have both people. which is why i will continue to use gamerankings or metacritic because its much more accurate then single reviews, mgs4 is not a 10 its a 9.2 most definately.
WilliamRLBaker


If any single review site doesn't accurately depict a game's score, than what's the average of several single reviews worth?

I don't find either accurate. An average is more accurate of what critics think, yes, but is it more accurate of what I may think? No, not necessarily.
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#285 thrones
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If gamerankings doesn't accurately depict a games score, then neither does gamespot because if a review aggregator *im drunk* isn't valid then why would a single review be valid?

cant have both people. which is why i will continue to use gamerankings or metacritic because its much more accurate then single reviews, mgs4 is not a 10 its a 9.2 most definately.
WilliamRLBaker
A few days ago, it was 9.4 most definately.
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#286 Solid_Snake1221
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MGS4 is easily better than all of those games. And I loved Gears and Oblivion.
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#287 Saturos3091
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[QUOTE="InsaneBasura"]Oh my, the horror...Kez1984

I assume he is not running the game at max or it's a bad screen-shot.

Pc/mods/skins



Are you referring to my Snake character? :lol: If so I was maxing the game (with a total retex mod QTP3.0R installed), it's just a bad screenshot. Here's the original face:



Just editted it to fit the old Snake.
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#288 Kez1984
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[QUOTE="Kez1984"]

[QUOTE="InsaneBasura"]Oh my, the horror...Saturos3091

I assume he is not running the game at max or it's a bad screen-shot.

Pc/mods/skins



Are you referring to my Snake character? :lol: If so I was maxing the game (with a total retex mod QTP3.0R installed), it's just a bad screenshot. Here's the original face:



Just editted it to fit the old Snake.

You skinned it yourself?

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#289 Zeliard9
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[QUOTE="Zeliard9"]It's reasons like this why this gen is such a mess. People get far too caught up on stupid numbers. A lot of you are the sad types of people who would have ignored games like Deus Ex and System Shock 2 because they got below AAA from Gamespot.sonicmj1

But I thought that a number from my favorite review site or review site aggregator accurately determined a game's quality!

:o

It seems like it's a phenomenon of this gen. I don't recall so many people paying so much attention to the scores games got nearly to this extent in previous gens. It has to do with the rising popularity of Metacritic and Gamerankings, I guess, and the fact that companies actually use Metacritic scores now as a part of their business model. It's become very influential.

I like those sites, not because they average out the number, but simply because they're easy and instant access to numerous amounts of reviews on a particular game if you need some info.

The point is to actually read the reviews, though, not stare at a number. A lot of people don't seem to get that, and that includes higher-ups in the business. I don't think it's necessarily been shown that high review scores translate to high sales. Too many critically-acclaimed games have bombed commercially, and vice versa.

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#290 Saturos3091
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[QUOTE="Saturos3091"]

Are you referring to my Snake character? :lol: If so I was maxing the game (with a total retex mod QTP3.0R installed), it's just a bad screenshot. Here's the original face:

Just editted it to fit the old Snake.Kez1984

You skinned it yourself?



Nah, just downloaded it and changed it in game. That's why the hair/facial hair fails so hard.
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#291 Rage010101
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i wonder how long damage control like this will last for. i think it'll last this entire generation...lemmings will never let go the destruction and damage mgs4 has caused them. personally im just sitting back and enjoying the popcorn, it is like watching an awesome comedy flick except for the fact that this is becoming very very chronical haha
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#292 SnuglyChainy
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This is GameSpot... Anyway, WHO CARES... Its a game... I play it it have fun not to care about what it got on some web site... If you think all those games are that Great then go play them...

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#293 ovechkin08
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Too bad only Gamespot's scores count.
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#294 Gamerboi27
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u know wats funny tho...i really couldnt care watsoever..im sure there are many others like me

even if it gets 0% on gamew/e ranking.. id just laugh cuz theyre too ignorant to enjoy the masterpiece

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#295 skrat_01
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Use metacritic people
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#296 thrones
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Use metacritic peopleskrat_01
No, we should use gamestats.

IGN's local aggregrate reviews site > Gamespots local aggregrate reviews site

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#297 Taiko88
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When Ratchet flopped, Heavenly Sword didnt do as good, same with Uncharted, every Lemming was talking about GS scores and Cows had to deal with it, now you deal with the 10.

shadyd1717

Yes and this was before Gerstmann-gate as I recall. Nice try though.

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#298 jbz7890
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Use metacritic peopleskrat_01

Metacritic is not as accurate. It always rounds up and has a different scale for games that use letter grades.

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#299 thrones
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[QUOTE="shadyd1717"]

When Ratchet flopped, Heavenly Sword didnt do as good, same with Uncharted, every Lemming was talking about GS scores and Cows had to deal with it, now you deal with the 10.

Taiko88

Yes and this was before Gerstmann-gate as I recall. Nice try though.

Lemmings were still forcing Cows to use Gamespot after Gerstmann-gate. For one, their number of AAAes drop signficantly the moment Gamerankings become involved, from 4 to 2.
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#300 jbz7890
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[QUOTE="skrat_01"]Use metacritic peoplethrones

No, we should use gamestats.

IGN's local aggregrate reviews site > Gamespots local aggregrate reviews site

Thrones your such a fakeboy. That XBL gamertag is not yours. I remember there was a thread about this awhile back. You wanted to trick people into thinking you had an xbox 360. Your just like PS_John