Microsoft: 17.7 Million Xbox 360's sold

I can't believe there are that many copies of Halo 3 out there to be purchased. That number blows my mind. It's only been out 3.5 months.Dreams-Visions

Ok! Who is heck is out there buying multiple copies? JK, good news for MS. I am sure Halo fan love it.

17.7 Million shipped to retailers, not sold to consumersZeroPunctuation

they have come

[QUOTE="-Sniper99-"]Halo 3 is doing amazing. I am also glad to see Mass Effect reach over 1 million. I expected it to get next to nothing since it isn't very casual friendlygamesfan87

You don't need to be a casual game to sell well on the 360.... 360 owners eat up games like no tomorrow. Theres something like 30 1million+ sellers on a console that is barely 2 years old, that is amazing!

Not really that impressive when the Wii has 13 million+ sellers with what people consider a weaker lineup. Plus, with dev costs being significantly lower on the Wii, a million seller on the Wii means more profits for the publisher.

[QUOTE="heretrix"][QUOTE="i_like_pizza"][QUOTE="gamesfan87"]

So then mr genius tell us what 360 needs that the Wii and PS3 has

i_like_pizza

Quite seriously, it needs something different. It needs something to set itself apart from the everyday, run-of-the-mill console. Its software is not good enough to do that, obviously, because it hasn't done that yet. So, I would say that it needs to expand its audience by introducing new types of software. It doesn't have to invent anything, but it just has to establish itself as a good console for a ton of different genres, and at this point, it is not strongly represented by any genre except shooters. Does it have some good JRPGs? Yes. But is it a JRPG gamer's paradise? No. Does it have some good racers? Yes. But it's not a racer's paradise either. The point is that it's just an updated Xbox. It's got the same games targeted at the same audience, and it is not going to move anywhere by doing that.

FPS is my favorite genre. I like the 360. I really do. I played Halo 3 till 6:00 AM last night/morning. It's a fine shooter console (although I do enjoy my PC shooters more). But besides that, it doesn't have anything to offer my that my PS2 can't do better. I was a late PS2 adopter, and I could catch up on well over a hundred games if I felt like it before I would even consider touching a 360 for them.

[QUOTE="gamesfan87"]

[QUOTE="-Sniper99-"]Halo 3 is doing amazing. I am also glad to see Mass Effect reach over 1 million. I expected it to get next to nothing since it isn't very casual friendlyZhengi

You don't need to be a casual game to sell well on the 360.... 360 owners eat up games like no tomorrow. Theres something like 30 1million+ sellers on a console that is barely 2 years old, that is amazing!

Not really that impressive when the Wii has 13 million+ sellers with what people consider a weaker lineup. Plus, with dev costs being significantly lower on the Wii, a million seller on the Wii means more profits for the publisher.

[QUOTE="ZeroPunctuation"]17.7 Million shipped to retailers, not sold to consumersTheOwnerOner

Yeah, we heard you thefirst 100 times,

keep your damage control to a minimum plz, LOL

Ouch! cows and their damage control!

[QUOTE="gamesfan87"]

[QUOTE="-Sniper99-"]Halo 3 is doing amazing. I am also glad to see Mass Effect reach over 1 million. I expected it to get next to nothing since it isn't very casual friendlyZhengi

You don't need to be a casual game to sell well on the 360.... 360 owners eat up games like no tomorrow. Theres something like 30 1million+ sellers on a console that is barely 2 years old, that is amazing!

Not really that impressive when the Wii has 13 million+ sellers with what people consider a weaker lineup. Plus, with dev costs being significantly lower on the Wii, a million seller on the Wii means more profits for the publisher.

Uhh...dude....dont u remember that lemmings chose to completely disregard the Wii as a console as soon as it surpassed X360 sales in a couple of months? Get with the program!

Online multiplayer. Hell, the Xbox had better online than the PS2.heretrix

That may very well be true... but I actually don't play anything online except FPS and RTS, both of which are best experienced on PC, imo. If I was into other genres online, though, that would be a very good point.

SHIPPED!!!!!!

very impress nontheless

[QUOTE="JPOBS"]this post is so ridiculous i dont think i'll bother responding to it.

And if I do, you'll just come up with more far fetched reasons as to why the wii isnt in the same and why it totally rocks and the 360 and ps3 dont.

So take this as me bowing out of the argument, hope it helps you sleep better.

i_like_pizza

It most certainly does help me sleep better. :roll:

Whatever. If you think Wii Sports was built to be an epic powerhouse like Mass Effect, you're more delusional than I am.

Wii Sports is the best and most impactful game of this console generation. Moreso than SMG, Halo 3, Gears of War, or anything else you can name.

To belittle that is nothing short of foolish.

[QUOTE="Zhengi"][QUOTE="gamesfan87"]

[QUOTE="-Sniper99-"]Halo 3 is doing amazing. I am also glad to see Mass Effect reach over 1 million. I expected it to get next to nothing since it isn't very casual friendlyheretrix

You don't need to be a casual game to sell well on the 360.... 360 owners eat up games like no tomorrow. Theres something like 30 1million+ sellers on a console that is barely 2 years old, that is amazing!

Not really that impressive when the Wii has 13 million+ sellers with what people consider a weaker lineup. Plus, with dev costs being significantly lower on the Wii, a million seller on the Wii means more profits for the publisher.

And? That just means that the Wii will definitely have the highest install base this gen and that third party devs should start releasing more of their games on the system since according to you, casuals will buy anything. Less dev costs, higher install base, high sales = success.

[QUOTE="heretrix"]Online multiplayer. Hell, the Xbox had better online than the PS2.i_like_pizza

That may very well be true... but I actually don't play anything online except FPS and RTS, both of which are best experienced on PC, imo. If I was into other genres online, though, that would be a very good point.

Oh, In trouble,

need.... to... hide... behind...., PC!

[QUOTE="Zhengi"][QUOTE="gamesfan87"]

[QUOTE="-Sniper99-"]Halo 3 is doing amazing. I am also glad to see Mass Effect reach over 1 million. I expected it to get next to nothing since it isn't very casual friendlyII_Seraphim_II

You don't need to be a casual game to sell well on the 360.... 360 owners eat up games like no tomorrow. Theres something like 30 1million+ sellers on a console that is barely 2 years old, that is amazing!

Not really that impressive when the Wii has 13 million+ sellers with what people consider a weaker lineup. Plus, with dev costs being significantly lower on the Wii, a million seller on the Wii means more profits for the publisher.

Uhh...dude....dont u remember that lemmings chose to completely disregard the Wii as a console as soon as it surpassed X360 sales in a couple of months? Get with the program!

Yeah, I remember that. I also remember them saying that they can't play sales and that sales don't matter. But since the sales numbers are going well for them, they're all about jocking them now.

Hey, at least it makes SW more entertaining :)

[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"]I can't believe there are that many copies of Halo 3 out there to be purchased. That number blows my mind. It's only been out 3.5 months.gamenux

Ok! Who is heck is out there buying multiple copies? JK, good news for MS. I am sure Halo fan love it.

ok you caught me i bought 8,099,999 copies of halo 3. so sue me.

[QUOTE="II_Seraphim_II"][QUOTE="Zhengi"][QUOTE="gamesfan87"]

[QUOTE="-Sniper99-"]Halo 3 is doing amazing. I am also glad to see Mass Effect reach over 1 million. I expected it to get next to nothing since it isn't very casual friendlyZhengi

You don't need to be a casual game to sell well on the 360.... 360 owners eat up games like no tomorrow. Theres something like 30 1million+ sellers on a console that is barely 2 years old, that is amazing!

Not really that impressive when the Wii has 13 million+ sellers with what people consider a weaker lineup. Plus, with dev costs being significantly lower on the Wii, a million seller on the Wii means more profits for the publisher.

Uhh...dude....dont u remember that lemmings chose to completely disregard the Wii as a console as soon as it surpassed X360 sales in a couple of months? Get with the program!

Yeah, I remember that. I also remember them saying that they can't play sales and that sales don't matter. But since the sales numbers are going well for them, they're all about jocking them now.

Hey, at least it makes SW more entertaining :)

lol so true...what ever helps people sleep better at night :P

[QUOTE="i_like_pizza"][QUOTE="JPOBS"]this post is so ridiculous i dont think i'll bother responding to it.

And if I do, you'll just come up with more far fetched reasons as to why the wii isnt in the same and why it totally rocks and the 360 and ps3 dont.

So take this as me bowing out of the argument, hope it helps you sleep better.

heretrix

It most certainly does help me sleep better. :roll:

Whatever. If you think Wii Sports was built to be an epic powerhouse like Mass Effect, you're more delusional than I am.

Wii Sports is the best and most impactful game of this console generation. Moreso than SMG, Halo 3, Gears of War, or anything else you can name.

To belittle that is nothing short of foolish.

Isn't that the same as saying "That's laying it on a bit too thick. Halo 3 would be nothing without the online? If you played those games without it they'd be pure trash." Well no duh, the Wii mote makes what Wii Sports is. No game would be what it is without its strongest points.

[QUOTE="i_like_pizza"][QUOTE="JPOBS"]this post is so ridiculous i dont think i'll bother responding to it.

And if I do, you'll just come up with more far fetched reasons as to why the wii isnt in the same and why it totally rocks and the 360 and ps3 dont.

So take this as me bowing out of the argument, hope it helps you sleep better.

heretrix

It most certainly does help me sleep better. :roll:

Whatever. If you think Wii Sports was built to be an epic powerhouse like Mass Effect, you're more delusional than I am.

Wii Sports is the best and most impactful game of this console generation. Moreso than SMG, Halo 3, Gears of War, or anything else you can name.

To belittle that is nothing short of foolish.

Saying Wii Sports is nothing without the Wiimote is like saying cookies are nothing without flour.... it just doesn't make sense, because the two go together. Wii Sports was made to show users how the Wiimote can be used and just how much fun it can be. You can't separate them.

[QUOTE="heretrix"][QUOTE="Zhengi"][QUOTE="gamesfan87"]

[QUOTE="-Sniper99-"]Halo 3 is doing amazing. I am also glad to see Mass Effect reach over 1 million. I expected it to get next to nothing since it isn't very casual friendlyZhengi

You don't need to be a casual game to sell well on the 360.... 360 owners eat up games like no tomorrow. Theres something like 30 1million+ sellers on a console that is barely 2 years old, that is amazing!

Not really that impressive when the Wii has 13 million+ sellers with what people consider a weaker lineup. Plus, with dev costs being significantly lower on the Wii, a million seller on the Wii means more profits for the publisher.

And? That just means that the Wii will definitely have the highest install base this gen and that third party devs should start releasing more of their games on the system since according to you, casuals will buy anything. Less dev costs, higher install base, high sales = success.

Can't wait to see official numbers for the other two. :)Erkidu

Doesn't Sony just say Sony Family and combine the PS2, PS3, and PSP sales?

[QUOTE="i_like_pizza"]

[QUOTE="heretrix"]Online multiplayer. Hell, the Xbox had better online than the PS2.TheOwnerOner

That may very well be true... but I actually don't play anything online except FPS and RTS, both of which are best experienced on PC, imo. If I was into other genres online, though, that would be a very good point.

Oh, In trouble,

need.... to... hide... behind...., PC!

Huh... ???? Where did you come from? Nice of you to join the conversation to add nothing meaningful. How is it hiding in the slightest to just state my preference. Tons of people think RTS and FPS are better on the PC? Why should I be criticized for my opinion?

Whatever dude. I haven't seen anything coming up that has made me regret selling my Wii. We will see.heretrix

Success is not determined by your preference of which console. And the games are coming, but hopefully the majority isn't shovelware.

[QUOTE="heretrix"][QUOTE="i_like_pizza"][QUOTE="JPOBS"]this post is so ridiculous i dont think i'll bother responding to it.

And if I do, you'll just come up with more far fetched reasons as to why the wii isnt in the same and why it totally rocks and the 360 and ps3 dont.

So take this as me bowing out of the argument, hope it helps you sleep better.

i_like_pizza

It most certainly does help me sleep better. :roll:

Whatever. If you think Wii Sports was built to be an epic powerhouse like Mass Effect, you're more delusional than I am.

Wii Sports is the best and most impactful game of this console generation. Moreso than SMG, Halo 3, Gears of War, or anything else you can name.

To belittle that is nothing short of foolish.

Saying Wii Sports is nothing without the Wiimote is like saying cookies are nothing without flour.... it just doesn't make sense, because the two go together. Wii Sports was made to show users how the Wiimote can be used and just how much fun it can be. You can't separate them.

Guitar Hero and Rock Band are just as popular... And fun for a hell of lot longer.

That's a pretty dang sad year, considering the "great" titles they had this year. Apparently, if you just release a whole bunch of great titles toward one audience, it's not going to do anything to expand that audience. Whodathunkit?

If they want to ship more than 7 million 360s next year, they had better get some variety in their lineup. As it is, the 360 is a strong shooter console, but relatively weak in every other area.

Those are good numbers for Halo 3, considering that its already done better than Halo 1, and it will likely pass Halo 2 before the summer.

i_like_pizza

*Looks at the non-FPS lineup next year*

Yeah its covered.

That's the problem. It's about as deep as a cup of flour, and it shows after 5 minutes of play. Is it fun? Hell yeah. But the best game this gen? Please.

Guitar Hero and Rock Band are just as popular... And fun for a hell of lot longer.

heretrix

Just as popular? Wii Sports will be the highest-selling game this gen easily, and that's not just because it was bundled. It has a 50% attach rate even when not bundled. It will sell more than 20 million easily.

The rest of that is purely subjective. I think GH and Rock Band are tons of fun, too. But neither of those games is going to have the impact on this generation that Wii Sports will have, and that only adds to the legacy of what Wii Sports will become in gaming history.

[QUOTE="i_like_pizza"]

That's a pretty dang sad year, considering the "great" titles they had this year. Apparently, if you just release a whole bunch of great titles toward one audience, it's not going to do anything to expand that audience. Whodathunkit?

If they want to ship more than 7 million 360s next year, they had better get some variety in their lineup. As it is, the 360 is a strong shooter console, but relatively weak in every other area.

Those are good numbers for Halo 3, considering that its already done better than Halo 1, and it will likely pass Halo 2 before the summer.

SSCyborg

*Looks at the non-FPS lineup next year*

Yeah its covered.

*Fails to see same future*

I can't believe there are ppl. on this forum that claim Wii Sports (a tech demo) is fun? Thats like PS3 fanboys claiming its ok to charge $40 for GT5 prologue (a demo)? I don't know which is worse?RaveRabbid

I can't beleive there are people on this forum who don't realize that selling well over 10 million copies in a single year might indicate that the game has a good quality to it.

[QUOTE="RaveRabbid"]I can't believe there are ppl. on this forum that claim Wii Sports (a tech demo) is fun? Thats like PS3 fanboys claiming its ok to charge $40 for GT5 prologue (a demo)? I don't know which is worse?i_like_pizza

I can't beleive there are people on this forum who don't realize that selling well over 10 million copies in a single year might indicate that the game has a good quality to it.

Wii sports is a packaged with every Wii console sold. Don't confuse Wii Sports with Wii Play.

[QUOTE="anonymoussum1"][QUOTE="UnrealSin_X"]

-17.7 Million 360's Sols

-Halo 3 shipped 8.1 million

-1.6 million Mass effect copies sold

I see this as very good news for Microsoft can't wait to see the sales figures for the other systems....

kotaku.com/340355/microsoft-brags-about-sales-moves-mass effect sorry i couldnt link it stupid Mozilla :(

mattbbpl

You can't play sales.

It always amazes me when people say this in regards to the system that has the most titles and the highest rated titles...

People say it everywhere else, so why not here?

360 has the best console line-up

blackice1983

Yes

and it has the most variety blackice1983

Nope.

I can't believe there are ppl. on this forum that claim Wii Sports (a tech demo packaged with every Wii console) is fun? Thats like PS3 fanboys claiming its ok to charge $40 for GT5 prologue (a demo)? I don't know which is worse?RaveRabbid

What's so hard to believe? The game is fun. People still enjoy it to this day. I break it out from time to time and play it with family and friends.

[QUOTE="i_like_pizza"]

[QUOTE="RaveRabbid"]I can't believe there are ppl. on this forum that claim Wii Sports (a tech demo) is fun? Thats like PS3 fanboys claiming its ok to charge $40 for GT5 prologue (a demo)? I don't know which is worse?RaveRabbid

I can't beleive there are people on this forum who don't realize that selling well over 10 million copies in a single year might indicate that the game has a good quality to it.

Wii sports is a packaged with every Wii console sold. Don't confuse Wii Sports with Wii Play.

not in Japan, and it still has a 50% attach ratio. It would have sold 10 million regardless.

[QUOTE="heretrix"][QUOTE="Zhengi"][QUOTE="gamesfan87"]

[QUOTE="-Sniper99-"]Halo 3 is doing amazing. I am also glad to see Mass Effect reach over 1 million. I expected it to get next to nothing since it isn't very casual friendlyZhengi

You don't need to be a casual game to sell well on the 360.... 360 owners eat up games like no tomorrow. Theres something like 30 1million+ sellers on a console that is barely 2 years old, that is amazing!

Not really that impressive when the Wii has 13 million+ sellers with what people consider a weaker lineup. Plus, with dev costs being significantly lower on the Wii, a million seller on the Wii means more profits for the publisher.

And? That just means that the Wii will definitely have the highest install base this gen and that third party devs should start releasing more of their games on the system since according to you, casuals will buy anything. Less dev costs, higher install base, high sales = success.

Casuals buy the Wii for Wii Sports and not much else. The hype is starting to dye down for the console and people will see that it is inferior to 360/PS3. The Wii is about short term gains but long term failure. Plus its in a completely different market, sure its a game console, but not a real one.

[QUOTE="TheOwnerOner"][QUOTE="i_like_pizza"]

[QUOTE="heretrix"]Online multiplayer. Hell, the Xbox had better online than the PS2.i_like_pizza

That may very well be true... but I actually don't play anything online except FPS and RTS, both of which are best experienced on PC, imo. If I was into other genres online, though, that would be a very good point.

Oh, In trouble,

need.... to... hide... behind...., PC!

Huh... ???? Where did you come from? Nice of you to join the conversation to add nothing meaningful. How is it hiding in the slightest to just state my preference. Tons of people think RTS and FPS are better on the PC? Why should I be criticized for my opinion?

You defend Nintendo like if its your father,

but when the argument gets down to the nitty gritty,

PC comes along and saves the day!

[QUOTE="RaveRabbid"]I can't believe there are ppl. on this forum that claim Wii Sports (a tech demo packaged with every Wii console) is fun? Thats like PS3 fanboys claiming its ok to charge $40 for GT5 prologue (a demo)? I don't know which is worse?Zhengi

What's so hard to believe? The game is fun. People still enjoy it to this day. I break it out from time to time and play it with family and friends.

Ofcourse you do. I mean who doesn't like to waggle and wiggle their arms to a simplified (1980s) game?

That's a pretty dang sad year, considering the "great" titles they had this year. Apparently, if you just release a whole bunch of great titles toward one audience, it's not going to do anything to expand that audience. Whodathunkit?

i_like_pizza

So, the next time someone mocks the 360 as a shooter/racer console, remember that those shooters and racers are selling quite well.

Casuals buy the Wii for Wii Sports and not much else. The hype is starting to dye down for the console and people will see that it is inferior to 360/PS3. The Wii is about short term gains but long term failure. Plus its in a completely different market, sure its a game console, but not a real one. gamesfan87

Really? because I was under the impression that the Wii obliterated everything in hardware and software sales this Holiday season worldwide.

Hmmm... I must have been thinking of a different planet or something, because that doesn't seem like dying down to me.

[QUOTE="RaveRabbid"][QUOTE="i_like_pizza"]

[QUOTE="RaveRabbid"]I can't believe there are ppl. on this forum that claim Wii Sports (a tech demo) is fun? Thats like PS3 fanboys claiming its ok to charge $40 for GT5 prologue (a demo)? I don't know which is worse?i_like_pizza

I can't beleive there are people on this forum who don't realize that selling well over 10 million copies in a single year might indicate that the game has a good quality to it.

Wii sports is a packaged with every Wii console sold. Don't confuse Wii Sports with Wii Play.

not in Japan, and it still has a 50% attach ratio. It would have sold 10 million regardless.

If I gave away a game, it would have sold more 100 million. You understand where I'm going with this. Its like claiming the Halo 3 beta sold 1 million .... but infact, Crackdown, sold 1 million.

[QUOTE="heretrix"]That's the problem. It's about as deep as a cup of flour, and it shows after 5 minutes of play. Is it fun? Hell yeah. But the best game this gen? Please.

Guitar Hero and Rock Band are just as popular... And fun for a hell of lot longer.

i_like_pizza

Just as popular? Wii Sports will be the highest-selling game this gen easily, and that's not just because it was bundled. It has a 50% attach rate even when not bundled. It will sell more than 20 million easily.

The rest of that is purely subjective. I think GH and Rock Band are tons of fun, too. But neither of those games is going to have the impact on this generation that Wii Sports will have, and that only adds to the legacy of what Wii Sports will become in gaming history.

[QUOTE="Zhengi"][QUOTE="gamesfan87"]

[QUOTE="-Sniper99-"]Halo 3 is doing amazing. I am also glad to see Mass Effect reach over 1 million. I expected it to get next to nothing since it isn't very casual friendlyheretrix

You don't need to be a casual game to sell well on the 360.... 360 owners eat up games like no tomorrow. Theres something like 30 1million+ sellers on a console that is barely 2 years old, that is amazing!

Not really that impressive when the Wii has 13 million+ sellers with what people consider a weaker lineup. Plus, with dev costs being significantly lower on the Wii, a million seller on the Wii means more profits for the publisher.

Casuals buy the Wii for Wii Sports and not much else. The hype is starting to dye down for the console and people will see that it is inferior to 360/PS3. The Wii is about short term gains but long term failure. Plus its in a completely different market, sure its a game console, but not a real one.

gamesfan87

And yet the Wii has 13 million+ sellers. Almost half the amount of million sellers as the 360 with a supposedly inferior game line up. Where do you get that they don't buy much else? Link please.

The hype is starting to die down? I haven't been to the store lately to see if they have Wiis in stock, but being completely sold out in the US for its entire first year is an incredible feat. If there are Wiis in stock right now, it's finally normalizing rather than dying down.

And if people haven't seen that it's inferior to the 360/PS3 yet, what makes you think that they'll suddenly start to see that? In fact, the Wii is more of a long term console at the moment than the 360 (on par with the PS3). Just look at the quality of the hardware for the 360. "Things break" is all I need to say.

The excuse that it's in a completely different market is funny. I guess the PS2 was also in a different market from the GC and Xbox since it sold primarily to the casuals. Great logic there :)

[QUOTE="i_like_pizza"]

That's a pretty dang sad year, considering the "great" titles they had this year. Apparently, if you just release a whole bunch of great titles toward one audience, it's not going to do anything to expand that audience. Whodathunkit?

lowe0

So, the next time someone mocks the 360 as a shooter/racer console, remember that those shooters and racers are selling quite well.

Yeah, I suppose MS is much happier with where they are now than they were last gen. Last gen they had mediocre software sales with poor hardware sales. This time around, they have good software sales with mediocre hardware sales. Not terrible, but they aren't gonna get to the top this gen.