Microsoft: 17.7 Million Xbox 360's sold

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#151 DXGreat1_HGL
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[QUOTE="DXGreat1_HGL"] I like how cows try to spin this as not to impressive. Anyone want a PS3? They sure aren't hard to find, just shake the dust off of the boxes 1st...Koalakommander

Welcome to 2008 buddy. Prepare to get your mind blown.

No watching the managers at work trying to create more room in the candy room for unsold PS3's is mind blowing. The fact that people are willing to spend more money for a Wii on Ebay, when they could afford a PS3 is mindblowing. Face it, cow hype is laughable at best...

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So the Xbox 360 is winning the console race? They have the highest hardware sales, software sales, and the best games. Interesting.

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#153 Koalakommander
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[QUOTE="Koalakommander"]

[QUOTE="DXGreat1_HGL"] I like how cows try to spin this as not to impressive. Anyone want a PS3? They sure aren't hard to find, just shake the dust off of the boxes 1st...DXGreat1_HGL

Welcome to 2008 buddy. Prepare to get your mind blown.

No watching the managers at work trying to create more room in the candy room for unsold PS3's is mind blowing. The fact that people are willing to spend more money for a Wii on Ebay, when they could afford a PS3 is mindblowing. Face it, cow hype is laughable at best...

Message me at the end of the year and tell me how many PS3s were sold for 2008 -- I think you'll be suprised.

Lemmings have this mindset that Halo 3 can push a $400 console but franchises that are bigger like GT5 can't.

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So the Xbox 360 is winning the console race? They have the highest hardware sales, software sales, and the best games. Interesting.

Stevo_the_gamer

that honor goes to the wii.

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[QUOTE="DXGreat1_HGL"][QUOTE="Koalakommander"]

[QUOTE="DXGreat1_HGL"] I like how cows try to spin this as not to impressive. Anyone want a PS3? They sure aren't hard to find, just shake the dust off of the boxes 1st...Koalakommander

Welcome to 2008 buddy. Prepare to get your mind blown.

No watching the managers at work trying to create more room in the candy room for unsold PS3's is mind blowing. The fact that people are willing to spend more money for a Wii on Ebay, when they could afford a PS3 is mindblowing. Face it, cow hype is laughable at best...

Message me at the end of the year and tell me how many PS3s were sold for 2008 -- I think you'll be suprised.

Lemmings have this mindset that Halo 3 can push a $400 console but franchises that are bigger like GT5 can't.

Actually, you cows will start the wait until 2009 mantra by then...

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#156 Koalakommander
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[QUOTE="Koalakommander"][QUOTE="DXGreat1_HGL"][QUOTE="Koalakommander"]

[QUOTE="DXGreat1_HGL"] I like how cows try to spin this as not to impressive. Anyone want a PS3? They sure aren't hard to find, just shake the dust off of the boxes 1st...DXGreat1_HGL

Welcome to 2008 buddy. Prepare to get your mind blown.

No watching the managers at work trying to create more room in the candy room for unsold PS3's is mind blowing. The fact that people are willing to spend more money for a Wii on Ebay, when they could afford a PS3 is mindblowing. Face it, cow hype is laughable at best...

Message me at the end of the year and tell me how many PS3s were sold for 2008 -- I think you'll be suprised.

Lemmings have this mindset that Halo 3 can push a $400 console but franchises that are bigger like GT5 can't.

Actually, you cows will start the wait until 2009 mantra by then...

GT5 is 2008 sweetheart.

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#157 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator  Online
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[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]

So the Xbox 360 is winning the console race? They have the highest hardware sales, software sales, and the best games. Interesting.

CaseyWegner

that honor goes to the wii.

Aw, I just re-read the news once more, Microsoft's console has the highest "announced" numbers.
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MS claims they are winning the console war? That's pretty bold considering we already have official numbers from mediacreate, NPD and GAF compilated worldwide totals suggesting that the Wii is the clear leader despite launching a year earlier. It will be funny to see MS's damage control when they fall to last place.

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#159 CaseyWegner
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MS claims they are winning the console war? That's pretty bold considering we already have official numbers from mediacreate, NPD and GAF compilated worldwide totals suggesting that the Wii is the clear leader despite launching a year earlier. It will be funny to see MS's damage control when they fall to last place.

surfer_dude_

why are you putting words into their mouths?

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#160 anotherhaloguy1
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17.7 million isn't that impressive. the way lems hype the 360 you would think it would be past 20 million at least close to 25 million. given all of the the aaa games you would think that the 360 would have more sales. the 360 should sell more than it did in 06 but it sold less. jessie5788

The way the cows hype PS3 I'm suprised that it still hasn't passed 10 million.:?

Nice try at Damage Control.;)

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I like how cows try to spin this as not to impressive. Anyone want a PS3? They sure aren't hard to find, just shake the dust off of the boxes 1st...DXGreat1_HGL
17.7 million for a system with quality game after quality game really isnt that impressive if you think about it, the PS3 doesnt even have a huge system seller out yet but the sales have stabilized worldwide since the price drops, I know the competition stiffened in 07 so you can attribute the fall off in sales from 06 for the 360, but this is a positive step for MS considering this is on track to destroy the original xbox sales, i guess noone was really expecting the wii to take off like it did, japan is really hurting the 360's cause, those numbers are mainly from 2 regions especially in NA. The thing im most impressed about the 360 is the attach rates for games, unbelievable.
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#162 TheOwnerOner
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[GT5 is 2008 sweetheart.

Koalakommander

No,

Gears of War 2 is

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#163 mmirza23
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[QUOTE="Koalakommander"][GT5 is 2008 sweetheart.

TheOwnerOner

No,

Gears of War 2 is

Gran Turismo has a bigger fan base and is a much bigger franchise than Gears of War.
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#164 goblaa
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So a sales decrease form last year? A big one at that. Better hope this trend doesn't continue.
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#165 TheOwnerOner
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[QUOTE="TheOwnerOner"][QUOTE="Koalakommander"][GT5 is 2008 sweetheart.

mmirza23

No,

Gears of War 2 is

Gran Turismo has a bigger fan base and is a much bigger franchise than Gears of War.

Gears of War 2 will sell double of what GT5 will put out.

America alone, Gears will sell more then GT5 worldwide,

quote me please, sig worthy, yes

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So a sales decrease form last year? A big one at that. Better hope this trend doesn't continue.goblaa
I think the drop was from 8.9 million to 7.3 million for last year. Which isn't as bad as I thought it would be considering they cut their shipments from 15 million in Q2 to 11.6, because of the hardware failures. If they really fixed the problem than they'll have a good 2008, I would expect 9-10 million shipped.
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I know the reason why it sold less was competition. But you would think sales go up, what with all the awesome AAA titles.

Man, if the 360 did worse in sales for 2007 then this year it will do worse. I hope that doesn't happen:(

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[QUOTE="mmirza23"][QUOTE="TheOwnerOner"][QUOTE="Koalakommander"][GT5 is 2008 sweetheart.

TheOwnerOner

No,

Gears of War 2 is

Gran Turismo has a bigger fan base and is a much bigger franchise than Gears of War.

Gears of War 2 will sell double of what GT5 will put out.

America alone, Gears will sell more then GT5 worldwide,

quote me please, sig worthy, yes

You do know that GT is like the biggest franchise there is right?
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[QUOTE="goblaa"]So a sales decrease form last year? A big one at that. Better hope this trend doesn't continue.BreakingPoint8
I think the drop was from 8.9 million to 7.3 million for last year. Which isn't as bad as I thought it would be considering they cut their shipments from 15 million in Q2 to 11.6, because of the hardware failures. If they really fixed the problem than they'll have a good 2008, I would expect 9-10 million shipped.

Wait, I thought the total was 17.7?

8.9 + 7.3 = 16.2

Also, I thought they sold roughly 10 mill their first year. If so, that would make an estimated 20% drop in sales.

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[QUOTE="TheOwnerOner"][QUOTE="mmirza23"][QUOTE="TheOwnerOner"][QUOTE="Koalakommander"][GT5 is 2008 sweetheart.

Sir-Marwin105

No,

Gears of War 2 is

Gran Turismo has a bigger fan base and is a much bigger franchise than Gears of War.

Gears of War 2 will sell double of what GT5 will put out.

America alone, Gears will sell more then GT5 worldwide,

quote me please, sig worthy, yes

You do know that GT is like the biggest franchise there is right?

and you do know Gears sold 4 million in 4 months. right?

and thats a new IP with only an 8 million install base.

yeah, thats right. Halo all over again for MS

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#171 BreakingPoint8
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[QUOTE="BreakingPoint8"][QUOTE="goblaa"]So a sales decrease form last year? A big one at that. Better hope this trend doesn't continue.goblaa

I think the drop was from 8.9 million to 7.3 million for last year. Which isn't as bad as I thought it would be considering they cut their shipments from 15 million in Q2 to 11.6, because of the hardware failures. If they really fixed the problem than they'll have a good 2008, I would expect 9-10 million shipped.

Wait, I thought the total was 17.7?

8.9 + 7.3 = 16.2

Also, I thought they sold roughly 10 mill their first year. If so, that would make an estimated 20% drop in sales.

You're forgetting the 1.5 million launch shipments, add that and you'll get 17.7 million.
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#172 TREAL_Since
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[QUOTE="mmirza23"][QUOTE="TheOwnerOner"][QUOTE="Koalakommander"][GT5 is 2008 sweetheart.

TheOwnerOner

No,

Gears of War 2 is

Gran Turismo has a bigger fan base and is a much bigger franchise than Gears of War.

Gears of War 2 will sell double of what GT5 will put out.

America alone, Gears will sell more then GT5 worldwide,

quote me please, sig worthy, yes

Are you serious :|.

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#173 TREAL_Since
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Good. I wonder how many unts sold to consumers. Can't wait to see what sale trends 08 brings. I think PS3 will REALLY pick up.
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#174 TOAO_Cyrus
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So a sales decrease form last year? A big one at that. Better hope this trend doesn't continue.goblaa

Well remember MS stuffed to retail chain to get to 10 million last year so for the first half of 2007 they only shipped like 2 million. 5.7 million since July is pretty good. Whenever MS drops the price to 200 dollars or less sales will pick up. It wont die like the Xbox because there is nodominatingdirect competition like the PS2.

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#175 TOAO_Cyrus
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[QUOTE="TheOwnerOner"][QUOTE="mmirza23"][QUOTE="TheOwnerOner"][QUOTE="Koalakommander"][GT5 is 2008 sweetheart.

TREAL_Since

No,

Gears of War 2 is

Gran Turismo has a bigger fan base and is a much bigger franchise than Gears of War.

Gears of War 2 will sell double of what GT5 will put out.

America alone, Gears will sell more then GT5 worldwide,

quote me please, sig worthy, yes

Are you serious :|.

GeOW 2 will outsell GT5 world wide if MS still has a 9 million advantage ininstall basewhen it comes out. Right now thats looking pretty certain.

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[QUOTE="mmirza23"][QUOTE="TheOwnerOner"][QUOTE="Koalakommander"][GT5 is 2008 sweetheart.

TheOwnerOner

No,

Gears of War 2 is

Gran Turismo has a bigger fan base and is a much bigger franchise than Gears of War.

Gears of War 2 will sell double of what GT5 will put out.

America alone, Gears will sell more then GT5 worldwide,

quote me please, sig worthy, yes

Wow lol.

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c0ws need to simma down. X360 still has twice the install base of PS3. Yes, X360 came out a year before, but where's the 120million PS fans? Why aren't they jumping to grab a PS3? It's now $400. Answer is...NO GAMES! I give tons of credit to MS this gen...Yes, they have hardware problems but they warrantied everything & have pretty much fixed the RROD if you purchased a system after Sept.07'. There was over 8mil people on LIVE before the holidays(imagine now), they've got a decent amount of exclusives & the multiplats for the most part look & play better on their system...Not to mention, they sell more copies which = more dev support. Stop being so ignorant & give credit where it's due!

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Good job MS.Can't wait to see Sony's and Nintendo's numbers.
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What's the deal with the 360 being the "Shooter" console again? The argument is tired; the year 2008 will dispel that notion completely, because I barely see any Shooter games for the 360, save for a few.

  • Kingdom Under Fire: Circle of Doom
  • Lost Odyssey
  • Ninja Gaiden II
  • Fable 2
  • Too Human
  • Splinter Cell: Conviction
  • Halo Wars
  • World in Conflict
  • Dark Messiah of Might and Magic: Elements
  • Universe At War
  • Command and Conquer: Kane's Wrath
  • Infinite Undiscovery
  • Warhammer: Battle March
  • Operation Darkness
  • Age of Conan: Hyborian Adventures

Remember, that doesn't count multiplatforms regarding consoles. If Gears of War 2, Alan Wake,and Banjo Threeie manage to make it out in time for 2008, that's just one Shooter. The RTS genre is making a home on the 360, and the Action genre is still aplenty. It may have a lot of Shooters, but they're NOT the bulk of the system. Blame the 360 fanbase for being spoiled on the genre, and looking nowhere else to go but Shooters, which is why they sell. Microsoft needs a bit of credit, because they're trying to expand, but the damn fanbase isn't letting them. Money talks..

Now, regarding the thread, I'm glad that Mass Effect has sold that much. At least it won't be a Psychonauts or Beyond Good and Evil; great games underperformed in regards to sales and expectations. In any case, shipping 7 million units isn't terrible, but it's questioning, especially because of the lineup that was presented during those last six months of 2007. Nevertheless, I'm happy to own a 360, because as of now, it offers the games I want and enjoy, and guess what, about 10% are Shooters in my case. All those titles I listed above, I'm interested in.

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#180 skanjos
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so you are basically saying that with halo 3 out this year xbox360 sold 7mil consoles and you are happy?so that means that with the best xbox360 game out there you sold only 7mil,that means that this year most likely sales will drop more.

hmm.....i believe halo 3 is the greatest game xbox360 has and ever will(even gow2 wont reach it).gow sold so much cause the console didnt have halo3 at that time.can you say tha gow would sold so many copies if it was released this year along with halo 3? also for the love of God dont compare gt5 with gow hehe , just dont.

hm..... it seems that the ps3 sales are now better than 360s in europe too.... and that with mostly crappy games out there and almost no exclusives...any person with his mind in its place will agree that once the big weapons of ps3 are out the ps3 will dominate this gen and microsoft will come 2nd(if not 3rd if you count the wii as the number 1,cause the wii believe it or not sets this gen in a new way and maybe its the only new next gen console out there)

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[QUOTE="blackice1983"][QUOTE="i_like_pizza"]

That's a pretty dang sad year, considering the "great" titles they had this year. Apparently, if you just release a whole bunch of great titles toward one audience, it's not going to do anything to expand that audience. Whodathunkit?

If they want to ship more than 7 million 360s next year, they had better get some variety in their lineup. As it is, the 360 is a strong shooter console, but relatively weak in every other area.

Those are good numbers for Halo 3, considering that its already done better than Halo 1, and it will likely pass Halo 2 before the summer.

i_like_pizza

360 has the best console line-up and it has the most variety

It also has 12 months on the other consoles. Of course it will have the best line-up and the most variety. Even the Dreamcast had the best line-up and the most variety when it was released.... but that didn't work out so well, did it.

What I'm saying is that the 360 has a relatively weak line-up, considering the fact that people already know that greatness can be acheived (think PS2). The 360 is not a super-machine. It's a decent console with a great shooter line-up (by console standards).

Why do people say the 360 has a great shooter line up? The only shooter it has over the others is Halo 3. The 360 has the strongest RPG line up as well, for the moment at least.

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What's the deal with the 360 being the "Shooter" console again? The argument is tired; the year 2008 will dispel that notion completely, because I barely see any Shooter games for the 360, save for a few.

  • Kingdom Under Fire: Circle of Doom
  • Lost Odyssey
  • Ninja Gaiden II
  • Fable 2
  • Too Human
  • Splinter Cell: Conviction
  • Halo Wars
  • World in Conflict
  • Dark Messiah of Might and Magic: Elements
  • Universe At War
  • Command and Conquer: Kane's Wrath
  • Infinite Undiscovery
  • Warhammer: Battle March
  • Operation Darkness
  • Age of Conan: Hyborian Adventures

Remember, that doesn't count multiplatforms regarding consoles. If Gears of War 2, Alan Wake,and Banjo Threeie manage to make it out in time for 2008, that's just one Shooter. The RTS genre is making a home on the 360, and the Action genre is still aplenty. It may have a lot of Shooters, but they're NOT the bulk of the system. Blame the 360 fanbase for being spoiled on the genre, and looking nowhere else to go but Shooters, which is why they sell. Microsoft needs a bit of credit, because they're trying to expand, but the damn fanbase isn't letting them. Money talks..

Now, regarding the thread, I'm glad that Mass Effect has sold that much. At least it won't be a Psychonauts or Beyond Good and Evil; great games underperformed in regards to sales and expectations. In any case, shipping 7 million units isn't terrible, but it's questioning, especially because of the lineup that was presented during those last six months of 2007. Nevertheless, I'm happy to own a 360, because as of now, it offers the games I want and enjoy, and guess what, about 10% are Shooters in my case. All those titles I listed above, I'm interested in.

Cerberus_Legion

It's a shooter console. Shooters, sports, and driving are its strong point. Just look at the ratings.

And if you think RTS is going to find an big audiece on consoles, I think you're sorely mistaken. It certainly doesn't hurt to have those games. It can only help... but it's not going to help much.

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#184 i_like_pizza
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[QUOTE="i_like_pizza"][QUOTE="blackice1983"][QUOTE="i_like_pizza"]

That's a pretty dang sad year, considering the "great" titles they had this year. Apparently, if you just release a whole bunch of great titles toward one audience, it's not going to do anything to expand that audience. Whodathunkit?

If they want to ship more than 7 million 360s next year, they had better get some variety in their lineup. As it is, the 360 is a strong shooter console, but relatively weak in every other area.

Those are good numbers for Halo 3, considering that its already done better than Halo 1, and it will likely pass Halo 2 before the summer.

Guiltfeeder566

360 has the best console line-up and it has the most variety

It also has 12 months on the other consoles. Of course it will have the best line-up and the most variety. Even the Dreamcast had the best line-up and the most variety when it was released.... but that didn't work out so well, did it.

What I'm saying is that the 360 has a relatively weak line-up, considering the fact that people already know that greatness can be acheived (think PS2). The 360 is not a super-machine. It's a decent console with a great shooter line-up (by console standards).

Why do people say the 360 has a great shooter line up? The only shooter it has over the others is Halo 3. The 360 has the strongest RPG line up as well, for the moment at least.

"Shooter" doesn't just mean FPS. What's the next-best reason to own a 360 besides Halo 3? GeoW. The reason to own 360s is for the shooters. It certainly has other games to offer, but that's not primarily why it's being purchased.

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#185 Cerberus_Legion
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[QUOTE="Cerberus_Legion"]

What's the deal with the 360 being the "Shooter" console again? The argument is tired; the year 2008 will dispel that notion completely, because I barely see any Shooter games for the 360, save for a few.

  • Kingdom Under Fire: Circle of Doom
  • Lost Odyssey
  • Ninja Gaiden II
  • Fable 2
  • Too Human
  • Splinter Cell: Conviction
  • Halo Wars
  • World in Conflict
  • Dark Messiah of Might and Magic: Elements
  • Universe At War
  • Command and Conquer: Kane's Wrath
  • Infinite Undiscovery
  • Warhammer: Battle March
  • Operation Darkness
  • Age of Conan: Hyborian Adventures

Remember, that doesn't count multiplatforms regarding consoles. If Gears of War 2, Alan Wake,and Banjo Threeie manage to make it out in time for 2008, that's just one Shooter. The RTS genre is making a home on the 360, and the Action genre is still aplenty. It may have a lot of Shooters, but they're NOT the bulk of the system. Blame the 360 fanbase for being spoiled on the genre, and looking nowhere else to go but Shooters, which is why they sell. Microsoft needs a bit of credit, because they're trying to expand, but the damn fanbase isn't letting them. Money talks..

Now, regarding the thread, I'm glad that Mass Effect has sold that much. At least it won't be a Psychonauts or Beyond Good and Evil; great games underperformed in regards to sales and expectations. In any case, shipping 7 million units isn't terrible, but it's questioning, especially because of the lineup that was presented during those last six months of 2007. Nevertheless, I'm happy to own a 360, because as of now, it offers the games I want and enjoy, and guess what, about 10% are Shooters in my case. All those titles I listed above, I'm interested in.

i_like_pizza

It's a shooter console. Shooters, sports, and driving are its strong point. Just look at the ratings.

And if you think RTS is going to find an big audiece on consoles, I think you're sorely mistaken. It certainly doesn't hurt to have those games. It can only help... but it's not going to help much.

Thats why I said the fanbase/userbase is going to hurt the 360's selection of games in the long run, not the console itself. MS is trying to diversify the lineup, but the fanbase isn'ttaking the opportunity, unfortunately.

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#186 HelixTurnHelix
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I'm sort of confused... NPD has shown Wii outselling the 360 every month, and then all of a sudden Microsoft claims they're the console leader? What?
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#187 _Pedro_
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I'm sort of confused... NPD has shown Wii outselling the 360 every month, and then all of a sudden Microsoft claims they're the console leader? What?HelixTurnHelix

NPD is sold to consumer

MS is shipped to retailer

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#188 Lo_Rising
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I can't believe there are that many copies of Halo 3 out there to be purchased. That number blows my mind. It's only been out 3.5 months.Dreams-Visions

i know its crazy, its my favorite game at the moment and i also have a bunch of converts on my friends list that were in to pc shooters (quake) and cant believe how good halo is.

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#189 LosDaddie
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17.7 million in 2yrs are great sales. At this pace, the x360 will surpass the Xbox's installed base.

And this is all before the magical $200 pricepoint is reached.

The Xbox360 is going to be a great success for MS. There is no denying it.:)

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#190 deactivated-5e836a855beb2
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Not surprised there was an 18 percent drop in sales.

MS - reduce the price of your non-crap version to 299. Stat!

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#191 LosDaddie
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[QUOTE="DXGreat1_HGL"] I like how cows try to spin this as not to impressive. Anyone want a PS3? They sure aren't hard to find, just shake the dust off of the boxes 1st...mmirza23
17.7 million for a system with quality game after quality game really isnt that impressive if you think about it, the PS3 doesnt even have a huge system seller out yet but the sales have stabilized worldwide since the price drops, I know the competition stiffened in 07 so you can attribute the fall off in sales from 06 for the 360, but this is a positive step for MS considering this is on track to destroy the original xbox sales, i guess noone was really expecting the wii to take off like it did, japan is really hurting the 360's cause, those numbers are mainly from 2 regions especially in NA. The thing im most impressed about the 360 is the attach rates for games, unbelievable.

Actually, 17.7M in 2yrs is great considering the Xbox's userbase and the fact that the x360 hasn't reached the $200 pricepoint yet.

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Does these 17,7 illion actully mean anything more then 15-16 million? Really, thats less then 8 million a year.. Not much better then the original xbox..
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Does these 17,7 illion actully mean anything more then 15-16 million? Really, thats less then 8 million a year.. Not much better then the original xbox.. omgimba
Still better than. And better than the PS3, too.
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#194 LosDaddie
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[QUOTE="omgimba"]Does these 17,7 illion actully mean anything more then 15-16 million? Really, thats less then 8 million a year.. Not much better then the original xbox.. Jandurin
Still better than. And better than the PS3, too.

QFT.

It's obvious to everyone but cows that Sony's console-dominance is at an end. The PS3 will be very lucky if it can retain 50% of the userbase the PS2 had.

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#195 RocKtheCasbaH
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MS did better than I expected.

With 2007 being the Wii and PS3'sfirst full year and with the 360 having to fight off the hard core fans & early adopters I thought they would struggle to hit 5 mill.

Not sure if they will repeat it for '08 though as they had a serious amount of big titles backing them up in '07. but I don't know what the line ups are like for 2008 yet so anything's possible.

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It's obvious to everyone but cows that Sony's console-dominance is at an end. The PS3 will be very lucky if it can retain 50% of the userbase the PS2 had.LosDaddie
I don't think the 360 or PS3 will reach 60 million consoles.
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#197 BambooBanger
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17.7 million is a very impressive number, especially when you consider the competition MS has had in the second year of the 360 - the phenominal mass market success of Wii hardware sales and the launch of the PS3, a name synominous with gaming, and yet it still moves an impressive amount of hardware, even without any significant price drops!

The software sales are even more impressive, glad to see a WRPG sell almost 2 million units in little over a month - very impressive.

I've seen a few people on here, mainly 1 or 2 actually, say that the 360 is a "Shooter, sports and racing" console, and that the Wii and PS3 have more variety :roll: ... umm, last I checked the 360 had more variety in genres than both consoles combined, and the software sales to back it up.

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#198 BambooBanger
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Not sure if they will repeat it for '08 though as they had a serious amount of big titles backing them up in '07. but I don't know what the line ups are like for 2008 yet so anything's possible.

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I think with games like Halo Wars, Splinter Cell, Banjo Threeie, Ninja Gaiden II and the rumoured Gears of War 2, they will be fine. I'm also pretty sure that each of those titles, and more, will sell over a million.

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[QUOTE="Guiltfeeder566"][QUOTE="i_like_pizza"][QUOTE="blackice1983"][QUOTE="i_like_pizza"]

That's a pretty dang sad year, considering the "great" titles they had this year. Apparently, if you just release a whole bunch of great titles toward one audience, it's not going to do anything to expand that audience. Whodathunkit?

If they want to ship more than 7 million 360s next year, they had better get some variety in their lineup. As it is, the 360 is a strong shooter console, but relatively weak in every other area.

Those are good numbers for Halo 3, considering that its already done better than Halo 1, and it will likely pass Halo 2 before the summer.

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360 has the best console line-up and it has the most variety

It also has 12 months on the other consoles. Of course it will have the best line-up and the most variety. Even the Dreamcast had the best line-up and the most variety when it was released.... but that didn't work out so well, did it.

What I'm saying is that the 360 has a relatively weak line-up, considering the fact that people already know that greatness can be acheived (think PS2). The 360 is not a super-machine. It's a decent console with a great shooter line-up (by console standards).

Why do people say the 360 has a great shooter line up? The only shooter it has over the others is Halo 3. The 360 has the strongest RPG line up as well, for the moment at least.

"Shooter" doesn't just mean FPS. What's the next-best reason to own a 360 besides Halo 3? GeoW. The reason to own 360s is for the shooters. It certainly has other games to offer, but that's not primarily why it's being purchased.

And the Wii is only for little tiny children.

See what I did there? Ridiculous generalisations FTL

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[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="omgimba"]Does these 17,7 illion actully mean anything more then 15-16 million? Really, thats less then 8 million a year.. Not much better then the original xbox.. LosDaddie

Still better than. And better than the PS3, too.

QFT.

It's obvious to everyone but cows that Sony's console-dominance is at an end. The PS3 will be very lucky if it can retain 50% of the userbase the PS2 had.

The PS3 doesn't break down. Alot of PS2 sales were multiple buys, either from people buying a new one when their's broke or simply wore out (it was around for quite a while after all, people are still buying them).

EDIT I think you'll see a resurgent Sony next gen, when they fix where they went wrong with the PS3.