So... what does everyone think of the announcement?
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Xbots going crazy about this, meanwhile it should have been confirmed since the reveal.
lilnazar
Lems are getting excited about M$ slowly making a weaker PS4 lol
The original leak this morning by Game Informer: http://www.gameinformer.com/b/news/a...n-process.aspxMicrosoft has confirmed its plans to have an indie games service, adding that additional details would be coming at Gamescom in August.
"Our vision is that every person can be a creator," Marc Whitten, corporate vice president at Xbox said in a statement. "That every Xbox One can be used for development. That every game and experience can take advantage of all of the features of Xbox One and Xbox LIVE. This means self-publishing. This means Kinect, the cloud, achievements. This means great discoverability on Xbox LIVE. We'll have more details on the program and the timeline at gamescom in August."
\You assume that it won't entice  new  indie developers, as well as existing ones. Once u set the tune you can whistle all day long but the damage is done MS is a greedy empire this is just trying to save the self image[QUOTE="legalize82"]another 180 little too late devs already gone lundy86_4
[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]\You assume that it won't entice  new  indie developers, as well as existing ones. Once u set the tune you can whistle all day long but the damage is done MS is a greedy empire[QUOTE="legalize82"]another 180 little too late devs already gone legalize82
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All corporations are greedy. MS is just not good at hiding it.
"Our vision is that every person can be a creator," Marc Whitten, corporate vice president at Xbox said in a statement. "That every Xbox One can be used for development. That every game and experience can take advantage of all of the features of Xbox One and Xbox LIVE. This means self-publishing. This means Kinect, the cloud, achievements.timbers_WSU
Such PR bullshit. "Our Vision" BOLLOCKS, then why the arbitrary rule against self-publishing on 360? Stonewalling willing developers and depriving their fanbase of potentially great titles, just because the indie team wasn't attached to some big swinging dick in the industry...
Good that they reversed it, but I think that's down to new management. With the rise of the internet, information spreads faster and it's a much more efficient platform for people to voice their displeasure. I think MS knows the power behind it, and how negativity on the Net could legitimately hurt their sales, and is quickly and hastily doing everything they can to regain some of the fans they lost at the initial reveal.
They're definitely a few steps behind Sony at this point
[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]\You assume that it won't entice  new  indie developers, as well as existing ones. Once u set the tune you can whistle all day long but the damage is done MS is a greedy empire this is just trying to save the self image[QUOTE="legalize82"]another 180 little too late devs already gone legalize82
100% incorrect. So long as the infrastructure is in place, and the contracts are 100% viable, it could  absolutely  entice new, and old, developers. Stop being such a dipshit.
another 180 little too late devs already gone legalize82M$ playing catch-up
remember RR360DD bashing the PS4 calling it the indie-box, PS4 has no games and SONY can only afford indies. Look at him now....Xbots going crazy about this, meanwhile it should have been confirmed since the reveal.
lilnazar
More like, SONY smacking sense into them.MS is learning their lesson more and more as time goes by.
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Good job MS. I hope you don't disappoint us.
EYE-OF-HORUS999
So the console kiddies go, "Look look, Xbox so lame durrr, dey no have self-publishing derp."
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MS changes stance after listening to feedback, "Look look, Xbox so lame durrr, dey keep changing, dey no have backbone derp.
[QUOTE="legalize82"]another 180 little too late devs already gone Nengo_FlowM$ playing catch-up
remember RR360DD bashing the PS4 calling it the indie-box, PS4 has no games and SONY can only afford indies. Look at him now....RR360DD can't hear us. His ears are blocked with money from M$. They should hire him full time. Because he is good at xbotting.Xbots going crazy about this, meanwhile it should have been confirmed since the reveal.
lilnazar
[QUOTE="legalize82"]another 180 little too late devs already gone Nengo_FlowM$ playing catch-up
remember RR360DD bashing the PS4 calling it the indie-box, PS4 has no games and SONY can only afford indies. Look at him now....Xbots going crazy about this, meanwhile it should have been confirmed since the reveal.
lilnazar
So the PS4 just gets indies .... While the XOne gets indies too (for the whiners) AND the blockbusters :cool:
Enjoy your indiestation 4
So the console kiddies go, "Look look, Xbox so lame durrr, dey no have self-publishing derp."
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MS changes stance after listening to feedback, "Look look, Xbox so lame durrr, dey keep changing, dey no have backbone derp.
Frostbite24
Listening to feedback is a bad thing, don't you know?
lol if they need feedback for this that is pretty sad more like catch up race after all those **** ups.. meanwhile sony just went into a higher gearSo the console kiddies go, "Look look, Xbox so lame durrr, dey no have self-publishing derp."
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MS changes stance after listening to feedback, "Look look, Xbox so lame durrr, dey keep changing, dey no have backbone derp.
Frostbite24
[QUOTE="Frostbite24"]lol if they need feedback for this that is pretty sad more like catch up race after all those **** ups.. meanwhile sony just went into a higher gearSo the console kiddies go, "Look look, Xbox so lame durrr, dey no have self-publishing derp."
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MS changes stance after listening to feedback, "Look look, Xbox so lame durrr, dey keep changing, dey no have backbone derp.
legalize82
In actual fact, Sony's done pretty much f*ck all in terms of announcements since E3, whereas MS have come out numerous times with generally good news.
So they've not moved into a higher gear, they've sat idle since early June. They only seem great in comparison because the Xbone looked pretty terrible initially.
lol if they need feedback for this that is pretty sad more like catch up race after all those **** ups.. meanwhile sony just went into a higher gearlegalize82
Feedback plays an integral role, in designing a product. Hence why focus groups, are such a huge part of designing and marketing a product. Damn, you are such a dipshit, sunshine.
What do you think the PS3 was to Sony? They botched a shitload, and fixed a shitton of it for the PS4.
It was a necessary move, no matter what RR360DD says. Indie Games like Minecraft, Counter Strike, Left 4 Dead, and Day Z have taken the gaming world by storm. MS can't miss out on this opportunity. But too bad it won't be in until 2014.TheDidact
Notice how all those games (except day z) are still on Xbox? In fact XOne gets Minecraft, PS4 doesn't (even though Sony sent notch a gold playstation, still got rejected lmao but thats another story).
What I was saying was that if a game does become successful like micecraft (which lets be honest is rare, a lot of indies are total garbage) then chances are it'll get swooped up by a publisher, at least so that it can be put on XBox (like MS has done with numerous indie titles, Minecraft included). Which is why I didn't think them blocking self published indies was a big deal at all.
lol if they need feedback for this that is pretty sad more like catch up race after all those **** ups.. meanwhile sony just went into a higher gear[QUOTE="legalize82"][QUOTE="Frostbite24"]
So the console kiddies go, "Look look, Xbox so lame durrr, dey no have self-publishing derp."
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MS changes stance after listening to feedback, "Look look, Xbox so lame durrr, dey keep changing, dey no have backbone derp.
balfe1990
In actual fact, Sony's done pretty much f*ck all in terms of announcements since E3, whereas MS have come out numerous times with generally good news.
So they've not moved into a higher gear, they've sat idle since early June. They only seem great in comparison because the Xbone looked pretty terrible initially.
so what did sony **** up after e3 ?[QUOTE="Frostbite24"]lol if they need feedback for this that is pretty sad more like catch up race after all those **** ups.. meanwhile sony just went into a higher gear The hell do you want them to do then?So the console kiddies go, "Look look, Xbox so lame durrr, dey no have self-publishing derp."
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MS changes stance after listening to feedback, "Look look, Xbox so lame durrr, dey keep changing, dey no have backbone derp.
legalize82
About time; Sony and Nintendo have been allowing Indies to self publish on PSN and Nintendo eShop since those systems were announced.
[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]\You assume that it won't entice  new  indie developers, as well as existing ones. Once u set the tune you can whistle all day long but the damage is done MS is a greedy empire this is just trying to save the self image[QUOTE="legalize82"]another 180 little too late devs already gone legalize82
QFT. They have reversed everything and they are still stuck with a $500 NSA box that is 50% weaker than PS4.Â
Sony got everything right on the first try and have created the perfect console.
[QUOTE="balfe1990"][QUOTE="legalize82"] lol if they need feedback for this that is pretty sad more like catch up race after all those **** ups.. meanwhile sony just went into a higher gearlegalize82
In actual fact, Sony's done pretty much f*ck all in terms of announcements since E3, whereas MS have come out numerous times with generally good news.
So they've not moved into a higher gear, they've sat idle since early June. They only seem great in comparison because the Xbone looked pretty terrible initially.
so what did sony **** up after e3 ? I think you misread his post, he means Sony has done nothing. Literally nothing, a few little pieces here and there but the sheer negative feedback of the Xbox One has propelled Sony up and away with no effort on their part, either incredibly lucky and fortunate or very smart and cost-free. Either way Microsoft have now moved mountains to make Xbox One much more appealing in comparison and still have only managed to come up to par.remember RR360DD bashing the PS4 calling it the indie-box, PS4 has no games and SONY can only afford indies. Look at him now....[QUOTE="Nengo_Flow"][QUOTE="legalize82"] M$ playing catch-up [QUOTE="lilnazar"]
Xbots going crazy about this, meanwhile it should have been confirmed since the reveal.
RR360DD
So the PS4 just gets indies .... While the XOne gets indies too (for the whiners) AND the blockbusters :cool:
Enjoy your indiestation 4
^^^^ do you guys see what im saying? Have you seeing a pathetic like this one? Even Loosingends ended up going straight after years of trolling, but this guy just... I dont even...lol if they need feedback for this that is pretty sad more like catch up race after all those **** ups.. meanwhile sony just went into a higher gear The hell do you want them to do then? do it good at first maybe ? all those 180s make them look stupid as if they dont have a clue about what they are doing.. MS = clueless they try to fix when sony goes in a higher gear[QUOTE="legalize82"][QUOTE="Frostbite24"]
So the console kiddies go, "Look look, Xbox so lame durrr, dey no have self-publishing derp."
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MS changes stance after listening to feedback, "Look look, Xbox so lame durrr, dey keep changing, dey no have backbone derp.
rjdofu
[QUOTE="balfe1990"][QUOTE="legalize82"] lol if they need feedback for this that is pretty sad more like catch up race after all those **** ups.. meanwhile sony just went into a higher gearlegalize82
In actual fact, Sony's done pretty much f*ck all in terms of announcements since E3, whereas MS have come out numerous times with generally good news.
So they've not moved into a higher gear, they've sat idle since early June. They only seem great in comparison because the Xbone looked pretty terrible initially.
so what did sony **** up after e3 ?Have another go at reading.
[QUOTE="legalize82"][QUOTE="balfe1990"]so what did sony **** up after e3 ? I think you misread his post, he means Sony has done nothing. Literally nothing, a few little pieces here and there but the sheer negative feedback of the Xbox One has propelled Sony up and away with no effort on their part, either incredibly lucky and fortunate or very smart and cost-free. Either way Microsoft have now moved mountains to make Xbox One much more appealing in comparison and still have only managed to come up to par. free advertisementt why not use it ?In actual fact, Sony's done pretty much f*ck all in terms of announcements since E3, whereas MS have come out numerous times with generally good news.
So they've not moved into a higher gear, they've sat idle since early June. They only seem great in comparison because the Xbone looked pretty terrible initially.
JohnF111
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