Microsoft confirms self-publishing!!

Yep, MS continuing this trend doesn't surprise me.

They must really feel threatened by the competition or something. I'm assuming it has to do with all that positive feedback the competition has been getting in comparison to them; that and all the potential profit they've been losing. Can't imagine MS, or any other company for that matter, would backpedal this much if that weren't the reason otherwise.

next up, microsoft calls the xbone, ps4.campzor

lovely. it's obvious that the good Microsoft is the only company that has both the gamers and the devs best interest at heart. 

 

microsoft also just had change there boss to julie larson green. Looks like she is off to a good start. This could be big for indies because of the use of the cloud and Kinect. neogaf now loves the xbox one. dont you quote neogaf all the time?

XBOunity

Yeah i am not sure that this will bring in all Indies,after all many had bad blod with MS,like Fez,odd world creator and several others,they know what MS stand for and how bad they were.

lovely. it's obvious that the good Microsoft is the only company that has both the gamers and the devs best interest at heart. 

KarateeeChop

They really trying to make their console the PS4.  But good for them on this.

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microsoft also just had change there boss to julie larson green. Looks like she is off to a good start. This could be big for indies because of the use of the cloud and Kinect. neogaf now loves the xbox one. dont you quote neogaf all the time?

tormentos

Yeah i am not sure that this will bring in all Indies,after all many had bad blod with MS,like Fez,odd world creator and several others,they know what MS stand for and how bad they were.

i would be surprised if they didnt come back, johathan blow who hates the xbox one is now praising it.    and thats why neogaf has been so anti microsoft lately, because a large part of that posting community are indie devs and or associated with the business.    Nonetheless this is big news.

eh I doubt Sheens will stop talking as though Sony was supporting indies since 2006 and better than MS or that a few choice "Indie" developers will stop bitching about MS.

eh I doubt Sheens will stop talking as though Sony was supporting indies since 2006 and better than MS or that a few choice "Indie" developers will stop bitching about MS.

WilliamRLBaker

They really trying to make their console the PS4.  But good for them on this.

Chutebox

No.

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microsoft also just had change there boss to julie larson green. Looks like she is off to a good start. This could be big for indies because of the use of the cloud and Kinect. neogaf now loves the xbox one. dont you quote neogaf all the time?

tormentos

Yeah i am not sure that this will bring in all Indies,after all many had bad blod with MS,like Fez,odd world creator and several others,they know what MS stand for and how bad they were.

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eh I doubt Sheens will stop talking as though Sony was supporting indies since 2006 and better than MS or that a few choice "Indie" developers will stop bitching about MS.

ReadingRainbow4

This is very good news. I am a VERY big fan of 360's indie games. Miner dig deep is one of the best $1.00 games ever!

Atleast MS are learning their lesson before the console releases, took Sony a coulple of years into the PS3's life to sort out their cock ups.

It is $40K to publish from Unity3D to xbox 360/PS3 (XBLA, PSN), so no indie developer can actually afford self publishing, unless he is a millionaire "indie"

So... what does everyone think of the announcement?

DrRockso87

It's a good thing, but comes across as yet another reaction to what others were doing, rather than an initiative of their own.

Whitten told Kotaku in a new interview that devkit functionality will not be available when the Xbox One launches in November. The article

Yep, this is yet another patch over a leaky hull, not anything they had planned to begin with. It is increasingly hard to see Microsoft as anything other than woefully unprepared and desperate, particularly when the guy heading the project leaves the company midstream.

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Xbots going crazy about this, meanwhile it should have been confirmed since the reveal.

NathanDrakeSwag

Lems are getting excited about M$ slowly making a weaker PS4 lol

Well MS were so humbled the PS3 slowly turned into an X360, they thought it was a good will thing.

It is $40K to publish from Unity3D to xbox 360/PS3 (XBLA, PSN), so no indie developer can actually afford self publishing, unless he is a millionaire "indie"

loosingENDS

[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

It is $40K to publish from Unity3D to xbox 360/PS3 (XBLA, PSN), so no indie developer can actually afford self publishing, unless he is a millionaire "indie"

ShaineTheNerd

not true, millionaire indie?    come on.   

Good to hear. Would have been silly if Microsoft continued to shaft indie devs like that after the 360's indie scene was successful AFAIK.

I do wonder how good the Xbone's indie selection will be compared to it's competition and even the 360 though, after all the negativity that shrowded thee Xbone after its reveal and the fact that Microsoft initially messed around with the indie scene in the first pace. I could see some indie devs maybe staying away from the Xbone even considering this news out of principle.

Microsoft is trying to recreate the PS4, what else is new

Microsoft is trying to recreate the PS4, what else is new

Davekeeh

Which of course took many of it's better ideas from the 360. Sony fanboys seem to conveniently forget that the 360 had a bunch of indie games, and they sold well.

Personally I like the idea that MS is correcting it's mistakes before launch. At least they aren't acting overly cocky and charging headlong into the fire ignoring what people are telling them...you know like Sony did with the PS3.

So... what does everyone think of the announcement?

DrRockso87

Sony seems to be dictating a lot of the recent changes to Xbox policy.

This is good news for indie devs though, for sure.

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Microsoft is trying to recreate the PS4, what else is new

coasterguy65

Which of course took many of it's better ideas from the 360. Sony fanboys seem to conveniently forget that the 360 had a bunch of indie games, and they sold well.

Personally I like the idea that MS is correcting it's mistakes before launch. At least they aren't acting overly cocky and charging headlong into the fire ignoring what people are telling them...you know like Sony did with the PS3.

On consoles sony has supported Indies before MS was even on the console market,the PS1 had a thing call Yaroze it was basicall a black PS1 which let people make games,and it wasn't that expensive,it was aimed at indies,something nintendo or sega had not done when they ruled the console market.

The PS2 also had its own version.

List of 180 done by MS so far.

Online require.

No used games.

DRM 

No self publish.

No mods.

Still on the air.

Kinect Included.

$500 price.

No cross play between platforms something Square complained about.

[QUOTE="ShaineTheNerd"][QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

It is $40K to publish from Unity3D to xbox 360/PS3 (XBLA, PSN), so no indie developer can actually afford self publishing, unless he is a millionaire "indie"

XBOunity

not true, millionaire indie?    come on.   

That sounds amazing....for the first time i'm exited with something related to the X1! I really hope PS4 has something similar to this.

Does PS4 let you develop games on it? :cool:

If the XBL store becomes as bad as the XBL Indie store then I give up

RR360DD

You still need a PC for coding along with the x1. And btw Sony gave out dev kits to everyone long-long ago. MS is pathetic!:lol:

That sounds amazing....for the first time i'm exited with something related to the X1! I really hope PS4 has something similar to this.

PAL360

lmao. :lol: Good one.

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Does PS4 let you develop games on it? :cool:

If the XBL store becomes as bad as the XBL Indie store then I give up

clr84651

You still need a PC for coding along with the x1. And btw Sony gave out dev kits to everyone long-long ago. MS is pathetic!:lol: