Microsoft: "Xbox" is a platform now, not just a console.. Console sales don't matter, Xbox Live activity matters..

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@Shewgenja said:

If only they had sold it to their gamers as a "platform" back in 2013. Oh well, we know the XBox fanbase will roll with any punch and so do they.

The Xbox fanbase is angry, im one of em. Were not taking this crap anymore.

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#103 Thunderdrone
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I could care less about the Xbox One. In fact I never owned an Xbox console. But as much as this sounds like an excuse for below expectation hardware sales, he is not wrong.

Games-as-a-Service future is rolling in fast as jackasses continue open their wallets to play games they bought full price, on internet connections they already paid for....

Keep forking out for those Gold and Plus subscriptions.... dumbasses

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#104 X_CAPCOM_X
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@pelvist said:
@NFJSupreme said:

@pelvist: more games to play on pc. Any issues that arise at first with the platform will be ironed out because Microsoft knows how to handle software. What are the negatives?

Lets forget everything Microsoft have done in the past that is detrimental to PC gaming, killing off PC centric studios and their franchises. Now they want to sell you some XBOX ports on a "universal" platform with their own store where its the only place you can buy and play their games. Games they will be holding to ransom for anyone on the fence about the store which they undoubtedly have planned for a subscription system when they have enough content that their new younger generation/ex console gamers will be happy to pay for - Games with no mod support to make DLC more appealing. Microsoft do not care about PC gamers they want to line their own pockets at the PC gamers expense by using people like you who are easily suckered in with a few over-hyped XBOX games.

A few years from now, Microsoft will have made a mockery of everything that PC gaming stands for with their second attempt at GFWL.

I see what you're saying, but you may be a bit alarmist, don't you think? We don't know if they're going to declare an all out war on the PC gaming market yet. We just know that they are making their first foray into competing with PC gaming platforms.

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@ProtossRushX said:
@Shewgenja said:

If only they had sold it to their gamers as a "platform" back in 2013. Oh well, we know the XBox fanbase will roll with any punch and so do they.

The Xbox fanbase is angry, im one of em. Were not taking this crap anymore.

I wish I could agree with you, but Amazon is showing a pretty big rush on the S Model. How long this will go on remains to be seen, but so far, all seems well for XBox despite literally not having exclusives.

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#106 mjorh
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They should've gone with this approach years ago!

This is how it should be, They gotta address the current devastating issues of Windows Store and we'll get along just fine. i mean c'mon can't they be even at Uplay or Origin's level?

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I..................cant do it........................................I cant...................................gaming MUST stay the same..............................................HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAAHAHHHAHHAAAAAAHHHHHHAAAA

Get over it. One company makes consoles, and a massively popular OS with its own store on PC. Deal with it or become extinct

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#108  Edited By cainetao11
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@Heil68 said:

Will they charge for PC Live?

Also, its safe to say that PS4 is now true excluive gen 8 console king

MS wont be in the picture anymore for excluvies.

Got it!

No. PC will always have free MP

MS will be in the exclusive picture because they will not share any revenue with GoG/Steam/Origin?Uply on games they publish. The profits will go EXCLUSIVELY TO MS and the devs HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Now that's EXCLUSIVE, folks because we all know its about the money. Americans have outsmarted the others again? We'll see, we did create CAPITALISM after all, HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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@cainetao11 said:
@Heil68 said:

Will they charge for PC Live?

Also, its safe to say that PS4 is now true excluive gen 8 console king

MS wont be in the picture anymore for excluvies.

Got it!

No. PC will always have free MP

MS will be in the exclusive picture because they will not share any revenue with GoG/Steam/Origin?Uply on games they publish. The profits will go EXCLUSIVELY TO MS and the devs HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Now that's EXCLUSIVE, folks because we all know its about the money. Americans have outsmarted the others again? We'll see, we did create CAPITALISM after all, HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

.nuclearbombn nipponGIF. BOOM

What the f....

By the way, America was not the first capitalist nation-state.

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@X_CAPCOM_X said:
@cainetao11 said:
@Heil68 said:

Will they charge for PC Live?

Also, its safe to say that PS4 is now true excluive gen 8 console king

MS wont be in the picture anymore for excluvies.

Got it!

No. PC will always have free MP

MS will be in the exclusive picture because they will not share any revenue with GoG/Steam/Origin?Uply on games they publish. The profits will go EXCLUSIVELY TO MS and the devs HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Now that's EXCLUSIVE, folks because we all know its about the money. Americans have outsmarted the others again? We'll see, we did create CAPITALISM after all, HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

.nuclearbombn nipponGIF. BOOM

What the f....

By the way, America was not the first capitalist nation-state.

Was wondering who but didn't think you. Well done. I am well aware as HVAC engineering isn't all I study.

Still, can you explain to me why I should care, or a corporation should that a game is exclusive to a console when said corporation takes money from both PC and console sales? What does it matter besides fanboy bullshit anymore?

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#111  Edited By Shadowchronicle
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I mean they have never been narrow as far as thought process goes, the console is a stepping stone to Microsoft. Microsoft isn't small like Sony & Nintendo are when it comes to versatility in technology.

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@cainetao11 said:
@X_CAPCOM_X said:
@cainetao11 said:
@Heil68 said:

Will they charge for PC Live?

Also, its safe to say that PS4 is now true excluive gen 8 console king

MS wont be in the picture anymore for excluvies.

Got it!

No. PC will always have free MP

MS will be in the exclusive picture because they will not share any revenue with GoG/Steam/Origin?Uply on games they publish. The profits will go EXCLUSIVELY TO MS and the devs HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Now that's EXCLUSIVE, folks because we all know its about the money. Americans have outsmarted the others again? We'll see, we did create CAPITALISM after all, HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

.nuclearbombn nipponGIF. BOOM

What the f....

By the way, America was not the first capitalist nation-state.

Was wondering who but didn't think you. Well done. I am well aware as HVAC engineering isn't all I study.

Still, can you explain to me why I should care, or a corporation should that a game is exclusive to a console when said corporation takes money from both PC and console sales? What does it matter besides fanboy bullshit anymore?

How about some one who do not like MS first party stuff??? (Halo, Forza Gear??) Can MS make it dime from people like that?? Is not like all 3rd party stuffs are going to be "MS exclusives"lol

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@pelvist said:

@osan0: There has to be competition for it to be a good thing. It will be hard to get a competitive deal on something thats exclusive to Windows Store, and that kind of thing is guaranteed to happen. They do it with XBOX v PlayStation so why wouldnt they do it against the competition on PC?

What Oculus are doing to VR with VR exclusives is nothing compared to the damage MS could do to PC gaming.

how so it's just their first party games. u can go buy any 3rd party game where ever u wish

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@draign: Why?? Lots of multiplats sell most on PS4.

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@cainetao11 said:

I..................cant do it........................................I cant...................................gaming MUST stay the same..............................................HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAAHAHHHAHHAAAAAAHHHHHHAAAA

Get over it. One company makes consoles, and a massively popular OS with its own store on PC. Deal with it or become extinct

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I don't support their vision they are not even putting the games on Steam they are forcing us to play on their platform with inflated prices trying to scam PC gamers because they know they can't charge us to play online.

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@unrealgunner: prepare to become extinct

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I'll buy some of their games if they make them available on Steam.

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@ni6htmare01 said:
@cainetao11 said:
@X_CAPCOM_X said:
@cainetao11 said:
@Heil68 said:

Will they charge for PC Live?

Also, its safe to say that PS4 is now true excluive gen 8 console king

MS wont be in the picture anymore for excluvies.

Got it!

No. PC will always have free MP

MS will be in the exclusive picture because they will not share any revenue with GoG/Steam/Origin?Uply on games they publish. The profits will go EXCLUSIVELY TO MS and the devs HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Now that's EXCLUSIVE, folks because we all know its about the money. Americans have outsmarted the others again? We'll see, we did create CAPITALISM after all, HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

.nuclearbombn nipponGIF. BOOM

What the f....

By the way, America was not the first capitalist nation-state.

Was wondering who but didn't think you. Well done. I am well aware as HVAC engineering isn't all I study.

Still, can you explain to me why I should care, or a corporation should that a game is exclusive to a console when said corporation takes money from both PC and console sales? What does it matter besides fanboy bullshit anymore?

How about some one who do not like MS first party stuff??? (Halo, Forza Gear??) Can MS make it dime from people like that?? Is not like all 3rd party stuffs are going to be "MS exclusives"lol

But the same can be said of Sony or Nintendo. Not All 3rd party will be on PS or NX or Steam.

It still doesn't negate the fact that MS going W10 and Xbox only benefits them, unlike in the past with PC.

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@ProtossRushX said:
@cainetao11 said:

I..................cant do it........................................I cant...................................gaming MUST stay the same..............................................HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAAHAHHHAHHAAAAAAHHHHHHAAAA

Get over it. One company makes consoles, and a massively popular OS with its own store on PC. Deal with it or become extinct

The guys on the Lobby said it before I did, to be honest. This forum is the last place this "true exclusive" shit matters. MS are the only ones getting paid for Xbox/W10 store exclusives. MS only makes money from it. That is all exclusive has ever really mattered for. Butthurt ensues HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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#121 cainetao11
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@Shewgenja said:
@ProtossRushX said:
@Shewgenja said:

If only they had sold it to their gamers as a "platform" back in 2013. Oh well, we know the XBox fanbase will roll with any punch and so do they.

The Xbox fanbase is angry, im one of em. Were not taking this crap anymore.

I wish I could agree with you, but Amazon is showing a pretty big rush on the S Model. How long this will go on remains to be seen, but so far, all seems well for XBox despite literally not having exclusives.

Well said. You're an idiot if you cant look at the consumer times and adjust. Only here in fantasy, fanboy ownage land does exclusive to one platform really matter.

In the real business world, MS realized we are massively bigger, and in more homes than Sony or Nintendo EVER will be through our Windows OS. So W10 store and Xbox is where you can buy our games, they decided. And those that cry and whimper about "true exclusives" are a dying breed because they were fooled into believing exclusives were ever more than about money.

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Unless they allow Steam to sell their games I don't see windows ten being the great winner or this strategy. Forcing people to buy through windows store is a nightmare

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#123  Edited By Shewgenja
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@cainetao11 said:
@Shewgenja said:
@ProtossRushX said:
@Shewgenja said:

If only they had sold it to their gamers as a "platform" back in 2013. Oh well, we know the XBox fanbase will roll with any punch and so do they.

The Xbox fanbase is angry, im one of em. Were not taking this crap anymore.

I wish I could agree with you, but Amazon is showing a pretty big rush on the S Model. How long this will go on remains to be seen, but so far, all seems well for XBox despite literally not having exclusives.

Well said. You're an idiot if you cant look at the consumer times and adjust. Only here in fantasy, fanboy ownage land does exclusive to one platform really matter.

In the real business world, MS realized we are massively bigger, and in more homes than Sony or Nintendo EVER will be through our Windows OS. So W10 store and Xbox is where you can buy our games, they decided. And those that cry and whimper about "true exclusives" are a dying breed because they were fooled into believing exclusives were ever more than about money.

Oh my god dude. The new Xbone didn't even crack the top 5 for more than a day. You need to calm it down, sir. lol Your fanbase ain't growing. Just the same ~20M knuckleheads getting taken for a ride for the newest shiny Box.

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@cainetao11 said:
@Shewgenja said:
@ProtossRushX said:
@Shewgenja said:

If only they had sold it to their gamers as a "platform" back in 2013. Oh well, we know the XBox fanbase will roll with any punch and so do they.

The Xbox fanbase is angry, im one of em. Were not taking this crap anymore.

I wish I could agree with you, but Amazon is showing a pretty big rush on the S Model. How long this will go on remains to be seen, but so far, all seems well for XBox despite literally not having exclusives.

Well said. You're an idiot if you cant look at the consumer times and adjust. Only here in fantasy, fanboy ownage land does exclusive to one platform really matter.

In the real business world, MS realized we are massively bigger, and in more homes than Sony or Nintendo EVER will be through our Windows OS. So W10 store and Xbox is where you can buy our games, they decided. And those that cry and whimper about "true exclusives" are a dying breed because they were fooled into believing exclusives were ever more than about money.

Well, I don't think you get it. The one that wanted XB1 games in here (Mainly Halo, Gear and Forza) most likely would have bought a XB1 and will not bother to wait and hope that there will be a PC version anyway! These whole exclusive is just Cows making fun of Lems. None of them care about if MS going to make how much and how "real Business world" and such. It is all just for a LOL and that it!

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@Antwan3K said:
@Kruiz_Bathory said:

So that means I won't have to buy the next xbox. I'm still buying those sweet Xbox Lab controllers though.

yep, exactly.. if you already have a Windows 10 gaming PC, you'll be still supporting Xbox/Win10 exclusives when you buy games like Gears 4, Forza Horizon 3, Dead Rising 4, and Recore and I'll be playing right there along side you from my Xbox One via Xbox Live..

All these cows who claim to be PC gamers now, i'll see you on Xbox Live as well.. thanks for the support and welcome.. :-)

Just like cows are starting to move the goal posts when it comes to "Power doesn't matter, games do", they will downplay sales after the Xbox/Win10 Ecosystem blows past Sony. Sitting back and laughing.

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@stereointegrity said:

Unless they allow Steam to sell their games I don't see windows ten being the great winner or this strategy. Forcing people to buy through windows store is a nightmare

yes it is..they're going to have to make some serious fixes to make this plan work. the next big release on the store needs to flawless

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#127  Edited By HalcyonScarlet
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Paint it anyway they want. As a company, maybe that's how they see it for them, but as a gamer, I needed exclusives to justify me keeping the console. Consoles are too expensive for me to eat up and sell their PR nonsense.

Got rid of my Xbox One, planning on replacing it with a cheap Wii U. At least there's over 10 exclusive games I want play on that. Where as there was only 1 exclusive in FM 6 I wanted to play on the Xbox One.

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#128  Edited By cainetao11
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@Shewgenja said:
@cainetao11 said:
@Shewgenja said:
@ProtossRushX said:

The Xbox fanbase is angry, im one of em. Were not taking this crap anymore.

I wish I could agree with you, but Amazon is showing a pretty big rush on the S Model. How long this will go on remains to be seen, but so far, all seems well for XBox despite literally not having exclusives.

Well said. You're an idiot if you cant look at the consumer times and adjust. Only here in fantasy, fanboy ownage land does exclusive to one platform really matter.

In the real business world, MS realized we are massively bigger, and in more homes than Sony or Nintendo EVER will be through our Windows OS. So W10 store and Xbox is where you can buy our games, they decided. And those that cry and whimper about "true exclusives" are a dying breed because they were fooled into believing exclusives were ever more than about money.

Oh my god dude. The new Xbone didn't even crack the top 5 for more than a day. You need to calm it down, sir. lol Your fanbase ain't growing. Just the same ~20M knuckleheads getting taken for a ride for the newest shiny Box.

SO the logic of the business strategy is wrong then? Please explain how. How are Sony and Ninty in more homes than MS through both Xbox plus Windows?

Why does my assessment of this bother you? You once said to me you weren't a cow but were just mad about anti consumer stuff in 2013. How pro consumer can one get then buying a game once and playing it almost anywhwere?

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@ni6htmare01 said:
@cainetao11 said:
@Shewgenja said:
@ProtossRushX said:
@Shewgenja said:

If only they had sold it to their gamers as a "platform" back in 2013. Oh well, we know the XBox fanbase will roll with any punch and so do they.

The Xbox fanbase is angry, im one of em. Were not taking this crap anymore.

I wish I could agree with you, but Amazon is showing a pretty big rush on the S Model. How long this will go on remains to be seen, but so far, all seems well for XBox despite literally not having exclusives.

Well said. You're an idiot if you cant look at the consumer times and adjust. Only here in fantasy, fanboy ownage land does exclusive to one platform really matter.

In the real business world, MS realized we are massively bigger, and in more homes than Sony or Nintendo EVER will be through our Windows OS. So W10 store and Xbox is where you can buy our games, they decided. And those that cry and whimper about "true exclusives" are a dying breed because they were fooled into believing exclusives were ever more than about money.

Well, I don't think you get it. The one that wanted XB1 games in here (Mainly Halo, Gear and Forza) most likely would have bought a XB1 and will not bother to wait and hope that there will be a PC version anyway! These whole exclusive is just Cows making fun of Lems. None of them care about if MS going to make how much and how "real Business world" and such. It is all just for a LOL and that it!

I honestly could not decipher what you were trying to say there.

But through W10 and Xbox going forward, MS has a larger chance of being in more homes than Sony (because they don't support their other shit, like my Vita) or Nintendo.

Please explain how this is a bad strategy.

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#130  Edited By deactivated-5cf0a2e13dbde
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They can take their UWP store, along with their surefire ambitions to introduce a pc live service and shove them up their gold asses.....

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@HalcyonScarlet said:

Paint it anyway they want. As a company, maybe that's how they see it for them, but as a gamer, I needed exclusives to justify me keeping the console. Consoles are too expensive for me to eat up and sell their PR nonsense.

Got rid of my Xbox One, planning on replacing it with a cheap Wii U. At least there's over 10 exclusive games I want play on that. Where as there was only 1 exclusive in FM 6 I wanted to play on the Xbox One.

All good bro. You'll still have to use the W10 store for any MS published games and your Live account to play online. See you there dude. LOL

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#132  Edited By BassMan
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@stereointegrity said:

Unless they allow Steam to sell their games I don't see windows ten being the great winner or this strategy. Forcing people to buy through windows store is a nightmare

How is it a nightmare? You click the buy button, it downloads and installs and then you play. OMG... what a hassle for the average consumer. Yes, it still lacks integration of certain things like mods, linking UWP apps to run from Steam, extensive overlay support, etc.. However, it has certainly improved with fullscreen, V-Sync toggle, G-Sync/FreeSync support. For the average person who just wants to get a game and play it, it works fine. They will continue to improve Windows Store and Xbox services on PC.

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@cainetao11 said:
@HalcyonScarlet said:

Paint it anyway they want. As a company, maybe that's how they see it for them, but as a gamer, I needed exclusives to justify me keeping the console. Consoles are too expensive for me to eat up and sell their PR nonsense.

Got rid of my Xbox One, planning on replacing it with a cheap Wii U. At least there's over 10 exclusive games I want play on that. Where as there was only 1 exclusive in FM 6 I wanted to play on the Xbox One.

All good bro. You'll still have to use the W10 store for any MS published games and your Live account to play online. See you there dude. LOL

Cool with me. Just hope MS start to put effort into fixing more peoples concerns with the W10 store.

I'm hoping I can get back to competing times in FM games cross-platform. :-)

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@BassMan said:
@stereointegrity said:

Unless they allow Steam to sell their games I don't see windows ten being the great winner or this strategy. Forcing people to buy through windows store is a nightmare

How is it a nightmare? You click the buy button, it downloads and installs and then you play. OMG... what a hassle for the average consumer. Yes, it still lacks integration of certain things like mods, linking UWP apps to run from STEAM, extensive overlay support, etc.. However, it has certainly improved with fullscreen, V-Sync toggle, G-Sync/FreeSync support. For the average person who just wants to get a game and play it, it works fine. They will continue to improve Windows Store and Xbox services on PC.

Yup. People act like current Steam is what it was at launch year LOL.

The anal ache here is hilarious. They cant accept that a company is trying to make money on 2 of its products. That's only acceptable if one fits in your pocket. So much butt hurt here

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#135 aroxx_ab
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PC, Playstation and Nintendo is all platforms i need now, ok i got it, thx MS

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#136  Edited By ni6htmare01
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@cainetao11: not say is good or bad. I'm just saying fan boys don't give a shit how much money ms going to make or how the real business world is doing and such. they just want to make fun

the other platform. So you are wasting your energy to try to debate here.

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#137  Edited By hrt_rulz01
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That was a very insightful interview... makes me feel excited as an Xbox gamer.

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#138  Edited By stereointegrity
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@BassMan: the average person isnt a PC gamer......u make it sound way easier then it is. the average person probably is buying a console if anything

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#139 cainetao11
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@HalcyonScarlet said:
@cainetao11 said:
@HalcyonScarlet said:

Paint it anyway they want. As a company, maybe that's how they see it for them, but as a gamer, I needed exclusives to justify me keeping the console. Consoles are too expensive for me to eat up and sell their PR nonsense.

Got rid of my Xbox One, planning on replacing it with a cheap Wii U. At least there's over 10 exclusive games I want play on that. Where as there was only 1 exclusive in FM 6 I wanted to play on the Xbox One.

All good bro. You'll still have to use the W10 store for any MS published games and your Live account to play online. See you there dude. LOL

Cool with me. Just hope MS start to put effort into fixing more peoples concerns with the W10 store.

I'm hoping I can get back to competing times in FM games cross-platform. :-)

Me too. I wont be paying for Live again after uipgrading my PC. July 26 We happy Few ONLY ON X1 though. Looking forward to that.

New rec room at Ft Carson with X1S consoles my NCOIC buddy has told me. Love that about this company. Take care of your troops.

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#140 Kruiz_Bathory
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@SinjinSmythe: so they'll do what lems been doing for the last 3 years. That's just how it goes.

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@cainetao11 said:
@BassMan said:
@stereointegrity said:

Unless they allow Steam to sell their games I don't see windows ten being the great winner or this strategy. Forcing people to buy through windows store is a nightmare

How is it a nightmare? You click the buy button, it downloads and installs and then you play. OMG... what a hassle for the average consumer. Yes, it still lacks integration of certain things like mods, linking UWP apps to run from STEAM, extensive overlay support, etc.. However, it has certainly improved with fullscreen, V-Sync toggle, G-Sync/FreeSync support. For the average person who just wants to get a game and play it, it works fine. They will continue to improve Windows Store and Xbox services on PC.

Yup. People act like current Steam is what it was at launch year LOL.

The anal ache here is hilarious. They cant accept that a company is trying to make money on 2 of its products. That's only acceptable if one fits in your pocket. So much butt hurt here

not complaing about how they make their money. but releasing maybe 4 exclusives a year is not worth the hassle of building a pc for. a console is the easier route for exclusives to the average computer user. unless the scorpio can be used as a pc platform or as a PC itself i dont see windows store taking off for games.

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#142 xantufrog  Moderator
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Regarding the thread title: I think this was always the intent of the XBox brand. My understanding was that the XBox was built to push the MS gaming platform into the console space, not to create something separate in that space. It wound up being that the console brand was stronger and more recognizable so I think they kind of half-assed their PC endeavors for a while, but now they have looped back and completed this vision of an integrated platform

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#143  Edited By cainetao11
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@stereointegrity said:
@cainetao11 said:
@BassMan said:
@stereointegrity said:

Unless they allow Steam to sell their games I don't see windows ten being the great winner or this strategy. Forcing people to buy through windows store is a nightmare

How is it a nightmare? You click the buy button, it downloads and installs and then you play. OMG... what a hassle for the average consumer. Yes, it still lacks integration of certain things like mods, linking UWP apps to run from STEAM, extensive overlay support, etc.. However, it has certainly improved with fullscreen, V-Sync toggle, G-Sync/FreeSync support. For the average person who just wants to get a game and play it, it works fine. They will continue to improve Windows Store and Xbox services on PC.

Yup. People act like current Steam is what it was at launch year LOL.

The anal ache here is hilarious. They cant accept that a company is trying to make money on 2 of its products. That's only acceptable if one fits in your pocket. So much butt hurt here

not complaing about how they make their money. but releasing maybe 4 exclusives a year is not worth the hassle of building a pc for. a console is the easier route for exclusives to the average computer user. unless the scorpio can be used as a pc platform or as a PC itself i dont see windows store taking off for games.

Get what you're saying dude. But I never played just 4 games in 12 months, exclusive or not in my life since I was about 16-20. I was very athletic, according to others, very handsome and obsessed with getting girls naked at that time in my life.

www.blocbyblock.org please check it out guys. Its a group using Minecraft for the worlds poor and my Army buddies have donated to it.

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@stereointegrity: a market of at most 200 million people in terms of consoles sold is bigger than PC? That's some good shit you're smoking.

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@HalcyonScarlet said:

Paint it anyway they want. As a company, maybe that's how they see it for them, but as a gamer, I needed exclusives to justify me keeping the console. Consoles are too expensive for me to eat up and sell their PR nonsense.

Got rid of my Xbox One, planning on replacing it with a cheap Wii U. At least there's over 10 exclusive games I want play on that. Where as there was only 1 exclusive in FM 6 I wanted to play on the Xbox One.

And if you buy any of the Windows 10 exclusives like Gears 4, Forza Horizon 3, Crackdown 3, Scalebound, and others on your Windows 10 PC, both Microsoft and the Xbox Live ecosystem thanks you for your support..

Seeya online!! :-)

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@stereointegrity said:

@BassMan: the average person isnt a PC gamer......u make it sound way easier then it is. the average person probably is buying a console if anything

Actually, as a hardcore console gamer, I've never had any interest in building a PC..

Until now..

Since i'll have any entire library of Xbox Live games available to me on Windows 10 PC along with a relatively easy and safe "one click" install/uninstall of games from the Windows Store, the next time I'm in the market for a PC (which will be in another year or so), i'll go ahead and buy/build one capable of running those games..

See how easy that was?.. do you see the value now?.. Do you see the leverage?..

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@Shewgenja said:
@ProtossRushX said:
@Shewgenja said:

If only they had sold it to their gamers as a "platform" back in 2013. Oh well, we know the XBox fanbase will roll with any punch and so do they.

The Xbox fanbase is angry, im one of em. Were not taking this crap anymore.

I wish I could agree with you, but Amazon is showing a pretty big rush on the S Model. How long this will go on remains to be seen, but so far, all seems well for XBox despite literally not having exclusives.

A game being also available on the PC doesn't take away from the fact that its on the xboxone. Why on earth would a gamer that isn't interested in PC gaming REALLY care if they share games with the PC? Truth of the matter is the only people that care about "the exclusive arms race" are the fanboys who need something to brag about..and microsoft just made it clear they don't care anymore.

If microsoft can fix all the issues with the windows 10 store and release a game on the PC with little issues this move can pretty much change the way people view gaming on consoles.

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#148  Edited By Wizard
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I still don't understand why I'm reading through this thread and seeing "meh exclusives" as though exclusives are a good thing. They are good for Sony/MS and nobody else, how does the quality of play increase because you have to buy another system? Why is Uncharted 4 better because it's on PS4 versus PC? Why was Halo better because it was on Xbox One instead of PS4? Only for MS/Sony and the fanboys drink up the Kool-aid. Cross platfrom is the future, not IP whoring. Higher install bases, better and longer lasting communities, and true software innovation.

-From a guy who plays almost exclusively multiplatfrom games. (Sorry Civ isn't on console I wish it was so the rest of you can enjoy it.)

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#149 delta3074
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It's a smart business move theres more money in Software than hardware.

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#150 BassMan
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@wizard said:

I still don't understand why I'm reading through this thread and seeing "meh exclusives" as though exclusives are a good thing. They are good for Sony/MS and nobody else, how does the quality of play increase because you have to buy another system? Why is Uncharted 4 better because it's on PS4 versus PC? Why was Halo better because it was on Xbox One instead of PS4? Only for MS/Sony and the fanboys drink up the Kool-aid. Cross platfrom is the future, not IP whoring. Higher install bases, better and longer lasting communities, and true software innovation.

-From a guy who plays almost exclusively multiplatfrom games. (Sorry Civ isn't on console I wish it was so the rest of you can enjoy it.)

You are making too much sense. Please stop. You are hurting the brains of the fanboys.

I don't give a shit if a game is on any console. As long as I get to enjoy it the best way possible (on PC), I am happy.