Microsoft: "Xbox" is a platform now, not just a console.. Console sales don't matter, Xbox Live activity matters..

@lawlessx: What's fanboyish about wanting a developer to dedicate their time to optimizing a game to run great on a single platform? Sonic the Hedgehog wouldn't be a thing without Sega wanting to put it all out there with blast processing.

What color is the sky in your world? Yeesh.

Yep... won't affect me, I don't play any of their games. Last MS games I played were Age of Empires 3, Rise of nations and freelancer, over 15 years ago. They don't make games like that anymore. I play mostly top down rpgs , civ, space sims, and paradox strategy games on pc...which I get on steam.

Too bad Steam OS is hot garbage.

Anyways, if MS wants this to work then they HAVE TO not only FIX their store, but totally revamp it...

They'll have Window 10 exclusives now. lol!! None of these games will play on PS4, NEO, Wii U or NX. That's all Microsoft cares about.

Some people simply don't understand what "exclusive" means.. the Windows Store is going to be unified across all Windows 10 devices after next month's Redstone update.. Which means these game are EXCLUSIVE to that one store: The Windows Store..

And those Windows Store games can be played across all Windows 10 devices with the hardware specs to support those games.. A gaming PC is a Windows 10 device.. A powerful gaming laptop is a Windows 10 device.. A Xbox One console is a Windows 10 device.. And they all will use the same store, same log-in, same cloud saves, and everything else that signifies a single product..

The sooner the haters understand this, the sooner the healing can begin..

its very possible for the windows 10 games to run fine on both platforms. And seriously man..there is NOTHING the consoles can do that the PC can't do 10x better. There is no "secret tech" in the xbox 1 or PS4 that make magic happen during development. I haven't been microsoft's biggest fan in ages,but this new direction is a big win-win for PC gamers and xbox gamers.

This is of course assuming they fix the windows store

what precentage of those 200 million are gamers who use their machine as a gaming pc....dont give me a rough estimate. dont tell me "but if x ammount"...give me actual numbers from microsoft

The only way Microsoft can salvage the declining Xbox brand is by releasing their exclusives to the PC. Its just like saying "I give up Sony you win like you always do". #JumpAhead down a cliff lol

So does your Xboner gamertag and gamerscore merge with PC? If I were to build a gaming PC and make that my MS platform to play games on, do I just use my XBL gamertag and do I still earn achievements on PC games?...not gonna lie, it really is all about dem cheevos'.

No cheeves', no dice.

A PC with proper GPU level.

Bill Gates has been watching Goodfellas " if you play on x1, FU pay me. If you play on PC, FU pay me"

Microsoft is after Google's Play and Apple's App Store.

Yes, the games are linked to your Xbox/MS account and share the achievements, friends list, gamerscore, etc..

Together with cheap $199 RX-480 GPU, AMD enabled console's near-metal shader programming with DirectX12 on PC with AMD GPUs

Congrats Microsoft, you knobs have finally realised. Make great games, not consoles...cause your consoles suck donkey balls

My work laptop runs games better than the piece of crap you guys call the XBONE

PC GPU with R9-290X and GTX 970 or greater attach rates are terrible.

All consoles are shit. No reason to single out the Xbox. It would be nice if Sony and Nintendo would make games for PC as well.

http://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-GeForce-GTX-860M.107794.0.html

For Doom 2016, your GTX 860M result is inferior to XBO's result.

Doom 2016 XBO build used AMD GCN's intrinsics to reach it's result.

Example of console's metal programming beating similar level PC hardware.

"most diverse platform"

Microsoft can't even afford to make diverse games, lol at them being the most diverse platform.

Cool. Don't really bother with achievements anymore but it would be a shame not to have them carry over, lots of time and memories invested in them over the years and many good friends on my list.

Was initially excited for Scorpio, but it might be time to get off my ass and build a half decent gaming PC as it is becoming harder for me to find relevant reasons to continue with MS consoles from now on.

Shit is getting real!!!

It looks there is not reason to buy the new XBone Scorpio..................because i have a PC.It looks like they give up with the XBone.lol

PS4 have dominate and it will be the only true home console............with amazing games.PS4 is the king.

It's good to see you'll be continuing to support Windows 10 exclusives and Xbox Live via your PC.. that's awesome and seeya online!!.. my XBL gamertag is Antwan3k

And for those that don't have a PC and/or have no desire to build a PC, the Scorpio will be the most powerful home console on the market.......with amazing games.. Xbox is the king.

Microsoft went full Sega...............never go full Sega.

@AtariKidX: Sega announced two new consoles at E3 this year?.. Sega had an E3 show full of games exclusive to their own store front and excosystem?..

Do you remember the SEGA dreamcast and how the Sega ended...after the PS2..??

Microsoft do the same mistakes that SEGA have do...........Microsoft went full Sega.PS4 and SONY have dominate......deal with that.

exclusives on 2 platforms...lol!!!!!

PS4 wins again.

@ronvalencia: While that is true to some degree, Apple and Google aren't really big in the PC gaming scene, so the revamped Windows Game Store is definitely a jab at steam.

And if MS wants to play with Apple and Google they need to get their phone division up to par to compete. Because right now they are getting destroyed. Surface is a highlight, but MS knows less and less people are relying on MS software. Heck I have an Imac at work, a macbook at home, a ps4 with PSVue and an android phone. Other than office being on my Macs I'm completely out of the Windows atmosphere and MS doesn't want that to be the case.

And to be honest I don't miss windows. I have a 6 year old gaming pc that I'll play a game on every now and then but I have no desire to upgrade it and keep using it. (It has ps4 level graphics now but I can't run a lot of new games even at minimum anymore)

If anyone thinks for a second that if the XBox One was a commercial success, they would be doing this, you are out of your little lemming mind. Developer and publisher support dried up for the console. It's really that simple. You can buy the repackaging or not, but I'll be damned if you Lems playing List Wars the first six months of this generation over your exclusives while Sony fans were waiting for Infamous to come out are all of the sudden going to change your tune and not be called out.

If exclusives weren't important, then how did the PS3 catch up and beat the Xbox 360? The emperors new clothes are kinda shabby. We're seeing through it. They are running back to PC because they found themselves in a very similar place to where the Gamecube was. First party being the only avenue for exclusive support to a console is not a good place to be. So, they're turning around and leveraging their PC store to woo support from third party.

They have to still fix UWP first though. They made a step in the right direction by allowing options for vsync control but they need to do more. Lots of people still hate the platform due to missing features compared to what they find elsewhere.

Windows 10 is one platform sir.. after the Redstone update next month, the Windows Store will be unified across all Windows 10 devices.. a Windows 10 gaming PC is a Windows 10 device.. a powerful gaming laptop is a Windows 10 device.. a Xbox One console is Windows 10 device.. my Surface Pro 3 tablet is a Windows 10 device.. even a Windows 10 Mobile phone is a Windows 10 device.. All the same apps and games exist in that one store across all Windows 10 devices, it just depends on if the hardware is capable of running that game or app..

So yes, all those games will be exclusive to the Windows Store and only playable on Windows 10 devices.. a single exclusive game available on one single OS, using one single account, from one single store..

Well then PS4 has PSNOW then and another 2000+ excluive along with sales leader of current gen 8 and recent AAAAe excluive king.

PS4 wins again.

As long as you recognize that these games are Windows 10 exclusives, only available from the Windows Store, and only playing on Windows 10 devices, my point has been made..

those are excluive now according to you. So in the end, PS4 wins again and is current gen 8 KING is sales, games, exclusives and recent AAAAe exclusives.

When Lems compare Windows Store to the ubiquity of Gamestop or Steam, you know they have lost the plot. Welcome to left field proper.

@Antwan3K:

Win10 OS Exclusives FTW, soon 500 million strong. Nintendo and Sony need not apply.... Excluded. :P

oh ok, you're back to doing your Heil68 SW thing.. gotcha.. atleast I got my point across before you went back to full troll mode.. good day sir

No, I'm adding to your point and from the rest of world perspective. I'm glad you acknowledge PS4 is current gen 8 console leader. That's all that really matters. Carry onward son.

Ok, you've been fishing for awhile now and it's looking pretty sad so i'll bite:

Let me ask you a question - When the Neo releases, will the new God of War still be a platform exclusive?.. yes or no?..

I say, yes.. In terms of gaming, God of War for the PS4 and Neo will come from the same PlayStation Store, using the same core OS, the same cloud saves, the same username log-in, the same online community, the same trophies, and will require the purchase of one single game that's playable on both.. the only difference is the hardware configurations..

By that same token, In terms of gaming, Gears of War 4 for the Xbox One and Windows 10 PC, will come from the same Windows Store, using the same core OS, the same cloud saves, the same username log-in, the same online community, the same achievements, and will require the purchase of one single game that's playable on both.. the only difference is the hardware configurations..

So again, I ask you: Will the new God of War still be a platform exclusive for Sony once the Neo is released?..

Do I need to pay for Live on my PC?

You mind answering my question first?..

Let's be real here:

The only reason they're doing this is bc their Xbox is selling like shit and they want to make more money.

They know they're way behind what the expected and look at Sony.

So the ventured their exclusives to a new avenue to make up the difference.

@Antwan3K said:

@Shewgenja said:

@Antwan3K said:

@Shewgenja said:

When Lems compare Windows Store to the ubiquity of Gamestop or Steam, you know they have lost the plot. Welcome to left field proper.

Ok, you've been fishing for awhile now and it's looking pretty sad so i'll bite:

Let me ask you a question - When the Neo releases, will the new God of War still be a platform exclusive?.. yes or no?..

I say, yes.. In terms of gaming, God of War for the PS4 and Neo will come from the same PlayStation Store, using the same core OS, the same cloud saves, the same username log-in, the same online community, the same trophies, and will require the purchase of one single game that's playable on both.. the only difference is the hardware configurations..

By that same token, In terms of gaming, Gears of War 4 for the Xbox One and Windows 10 PC, will come from the same Windows Store, using the same core OS, the same cloud saves, the same username log-in, the same online community, the same achievements, and will require the purchase of one single game that's playable on both.. the only difference is the hardware configurations..

So again, I ask you: Will the new God of War still be a platform exclusive for Sony once the Neo is released?..

Do I need to pay for Live on my PC?

You mind answering my question first?..

A unified store does not make a system. One can have a Windows 10 PC and never even create a Microsoft ID (I know, because that's what I do). A PC gamer can bypass MSes portal to content altogether and use other systems like Steam. The path to integration of platforms is not nearly as strong as the case you are making. Especially given the current state of the Store Apps and their piss poor run environment in terms of games.

I'd almost say, you have a stronger case for PC gamers running to XBox to just avoid the debacle of the Windows Store, and that wouldn't even be particularly cheeky on my part. That's saying something.

@Shewgenja said:

@Antwan3K said:

@Shewgenja said:

@Antwan3K said:

@Shewgenja said:

When Lems compare Windows Store to the ubiquity of Gamestop or Steam, you know they have lost the plot. Welcome to left field proper.

Ok, you've been fishing for awhile now and it's looking pretty sad so i'll bite:

Let me ask you a question - When the Neo releases, will the new God of War still be a platform exclusive?.. yes or no?..

I say, yes.. In terms of gaming, God of War for the PS4 and Neo will come from the same PlayStation Store, using the same core OS, the same cloud saves, the same username log-in, the same online community, the same trophies, and will require the purchase of one single game that's playable on both.. the only difference is the hardware configurations..

By that same token, In terms of gaming, Gears of War 4 for the Xbox One and Windows 10 PC, will come from the same Windows Store, using the same core OS, the same cloud saves, the same username log-in, the same online community, the same achievements, and will require the purchase of one single game that's playable on both.. the only difference is the hardware configurations..

So again, I ask you: Will the new God of War still be a platform exclusive for Sony once the Neo is released?..

Do I need to pay for Live on my PC?

You mind answering my question first?..

A unified store does not make a system. One can have a Windows 10 PC and never even create a Microsoft ID (I know, because that's what I do). A PC gamer can bypass MSes portal to content altogether and use other systems like Steam. The path to integration of platforms is not nearly as strong as the case you are making. Especially given the current state of the Store Apps and their piss poor run environment in terms of games.

I'd almost say, you have a stronger case for PC gamers running to XBox to just avoid the debacle of the Windows Store, and that wouldn't even be particularly cheeky on my part. That's saying something.

And yet, you still haven't answered my question.. But believe me, all your dancing around speaks volumes..

@Antwan3K said:

@Shewgenja said:

@Antwan3K said:

@Shewgenja said:

@Antwan3K said:

Ok, you've been fishing for awhile now and it's looking pretty sad so i'll bite:

Let me ask you a question - When the Neo releases, will the new God of War still be a platform exclusive?.. yes or no?..

I say, yes.. In terms of gaming, God of War for the PS4 and Neo will come from the same PlayStation Store, using the same core OS, the same cloud saves, the same username log-in, the same online community, the same trophies, and will require the purchase of one single game that's playable on both.. the only difference is the hardware configurations..

By that same token, In terms of gaming, Gears of War 4 for the Xbox One and Windows 10 PC, will come from the same Windows Store, using the same core OS, the same cloud saves, the same username log-in, the same online community, the same achievements, and will require the purchase of one single game that's playable on both.. the only difference is the hardware configurations..

So again, I ask you: Will the new God of War still be a platform exclusive for Sony once the Neo is released?..

Do I need to pay for Live on my PC?

You mind answering my question first?..

A unified store does not make a system. One can have a Windows 10 PC and never even create a Microsoft ID (I know, because that's what I do). A PC gamer can bypass MSes portal to content altogether and use other systems like Steam. The path to integration of platforms is not nearly as strong as the case you are making. Especially given the current state of the Store Apps and their piss poor run environment in terms of games.

I'd almost say, you have a stronger case for PC gamers running to XBox to just avoid the debacle of the Windows Store, and that wouldn't even be particularly cheeky on my part. That's saying something.

and yet, you still have answered my question.. but believe me, your dancing around speaks volumes..

The question is utterly nonsensical. No one is equating Neo to being anything other than a churched up PS4.

@Shewgenja: So your answer to the question: "Will the new God of War still be a platform exclusive for Sony once the Neo is released?" is yes or no?..

@Shewgenja said:

@Antwan3K said:

@Shewgenja said:

@Antwan3K said:

@Shewgenja said:

When Lems compare Windows Store to the ubiquity of Gamestop or Steam, you know they have lost the plot. Welcome to left field proper.

Ok, you've been fishing for awhile now and it's looking pretty sad so i'll bite:

Let me ask you a question - When the Neo releases, will the new God of War still be a platform exclusive?.. yes or no?..

I say, yes.. In terms of gaming, God of War for the PS4 and Neo will come from the same PlayStation Store, using the same core OS, the same cloud saves, the same username log-in, the same online community, the same trophies, and will require the purchase of one single game that's playable on both.. the only difference is the hardware configurations..

By that same token, In terms of gaming, Gears of War 4 for the Xbox One and Windows 10 PC, will come from the same Windows Store, using the same core OS, the same cloud saves, the same username log-in, the same online community, the same achievements, and will require the purchase of one single game that's playable on both.. the only difference is the hardware configurations..

So again, I ask you: Will the new God of War still be a platform exclusive for Sony once the Neo is released?..

Do I need to pay for Live on my PC?

You mind answering my question first?..

A unified store does not make a system. One can have a Windows 10 PC and never even create a Microsoft ID (I know, because that's what I do). A PC gamer can bypass MSes portal to content altogether and use other systems like Steam. The path to integration of platforms is not nearly as strong as the case you are making. Especially given the current state of the Store Apps and their piss poor run environment in terms of games.

I'd almost say, you have a stronger case for PC gamers running to XBox to just avoid the debacle of the Windows Store, and that wouldn't even be particularly cheeky on my part. That's saying something.

even though i'm still waiting for an answer to my original question, i'll go still go ahead and address this post..

So how do you plan on downloading Windows Store exclusives without buying them from the unified Windows Store?..

It will be a PS4 exclusive. I'm not waging a war on vocabulary for the sake of being pedantic.

Xbox 360 continues to maintain its lead in the U.S. console market. Xbox 360 sold 96,000 units, more than any other console in the U.S., making August the 32nd consecutive month Xbox 360 was the best-selling console in the U.S.

http://news.xbox.com/2013/09/12/x360-august-npd/#lfBqguH0Shg5sgCl.99

Boy how times change this was the same company who brag for 32 months about how they won NPD while they loss world wide..lol

This is a simple case of we are getting are ass kick so we don't care about sales.,.