Microsoft you CHEAP lying rats.

This thread should be locked. Its obvious substantial or intellectual discussions going on. Just crying fanboys. Plz lock!

[QUOTE="Verge_6"][QUOTE="Odrec"] Yeah well, this is my opinion based on observations. I don't have the number of how Xboxes sales compare to peripheral sales (although I believe that is also in part because many people end up buying several Xboxes because they keep breaking up and keep the peripherals). Last I heard opinions are also welcomed in debates or not? Still nobody has proven me wrong either and everybody knows that 'absence of evidence is not evidence of absence' so I stand by my points.Odrec

apparently you've seen any sony or apple products have you?

Well as a basis of my opinion yes. I never stated that I was saying something more than just my opinion. I'm not a market analyst or anything. I don't like Microsoft as a company and that's because my experience with it tells me is not a company I can trust. So take it as you wish, it is still my opinion that MS constantly tries to deceive customers and sell their inferior overpriced products.Odrec

thats the way competition works....this is the real world, it doesn't follow morales or ethics, it only goes by human nature. If The best way to make money is use someone else's ideas, then thats what will be done. One thing MS does that separates it from sony or nintendo is that MS actually cares about their customers and will do whatever it can to keep them. The RROD example...MS gave every xbox an extended 3 year warranty.....free repairs and free shipping. They take responsibility for their mistakes. On the other hand my gamecube crapped out on me after 2 years....and nintendo basically told me to screw off. To repair the console would cost about 10$ less than buying a new one lol.

thats the way competition works....this is the real world, it doesn't follow morales or ethics, it only goes by human nature. If The best way to make money is use someone else's ideas, then thats what will be done.

blaznwiipspman1

unfortunately that's true and also almost led to another market crash.

it is still my opinion that MS constantly tries to deceive customers and sell their inferior overpriced products.Odrec

Isn't this Eyezonmii?pyromaniac223

[QUOTE="DeadMan1290"][QUOTE="garland51"]

What I'm trying to say is, you shouldn't be bashing any kind of system that a company puts out & not laugh or jeer about which system is in last place, or who's better, etc. It's very childish.

cowgriller

god i sure hope your not talking about me.

How do you even sleep at night, when you knowingly spew out this drivel on an hourly basis?

Vaasman

[QUOTE="Odrec"][QUOTE="Verge_6"] There you go again. How in the name of God do you know most people think that? The most basic rule of debating is to back up your claims with sources ot at least references to statistics. Microsoft is giving the CHOICE of making your 360 have all the bells in whistles of a PS3. But, guess what? Apparently, not alot of people want those extra bells and whistles, much less all of them, as indicated by comparisons between actual 360 units sold and the sales of the peripherals for it.cowgriller

first off, just because said that my 360 broke, i bought a new one and keep my hdd doesn't mean i'm everyone. it just meand it happened to me.

second, opinions are welcome in debates, so long as you can back them up with verifiable proof.

thrid, you have been proven wrong. several times by several people, myself included.

fourth, it's "lack of proof is not proof for lack of existence"

Wow, this slanted rant lasted 9 pages?!

I blame the parents.:|

Why are you saying this? Why would you take the time to write this? What do your words even mean? What are you trying to accomplish?

[QUOTE="cowgriller"]

[QUOTE="DeadMan1290"] I understood it:P, the guy above my post didn't lol.DeadMan1290

god i sure hope your not talking about me.

praise raptor jesus!!!

[QUOTE="cowgriller"]

[QUOTE="Odrec"] Yeah well, this is my opinion based on observations. I don't have the number of how Xboxes sales compare to peripheral sales (although I believe that is also in part because many people end up buying several Xboxes because they keep breaking up and keep the peripherals). Last I heard opinions are also welcomed in debates or not? Still nobody has proven me wrong either and everybody knows that 'absence of evidence is not evidence of absence' so I stand by my points.Animal-Mother

first off, just because said that my 360 broke, i bought a new one and keep my hdd doesn't mean i'm everyone. it just meand it happened to me.

second, opinions are welcome in debates, so long as you can back them up with verifiable proof.

thrid, you have been proven wrong. several times by several people, myself included.

fourth, it's "lack of proof is not proof for lack of existence"

dude, i lost count of how many times it's happened to me. i never realise it until it's over.

Wow, this slanted rant lasted 9 pages?!

I blame the parents.:|

bez2083

it's easy to blame the parents, but it's easier to blame the game makers. :D can i offer you some hot coffee?

TC, why did you put so much time and effort making a pointless thread? I really don't care who did what first and who copied what. ALL COMPANIES DO THESE THINGS! Look at Xbox Live and PSN, PSN just about did everything Live did, but Live is stil progressing better. Do you know what will happen? Sony will do the exact same thing.

If an idea works well, why not use that idea?

MS saw good ideas, and tried to make a better version to make money and provide gamers with a better experience. Is that a problem? Head_of_games

[QUOTE="Head_of_games"]MS saw good ideas, and tried to make a better version to make money and provide gamers with a better experience. Is that a problem? jerkface96

while I disagree with most of your statements, I can agree that the 360 is a faullty system plagued with the rrod and E74. Even the ps2 doesn't come close with its disk read error. Thats the whole reason why I bought a ps3

K, when you guys read "By Slambo86" you should realize that it's not worth posting in.

K, when you guys read "By Slambo86" you should realize that it's not worth posting in.

Mr_Nordquist

MS gets far too much hate here in SW. Yes, they do overcharge for accessories and their online service, but at least they pump out quality games for the 360.

And you rip on MS for copying others, yet you forget that Sony does the same thing. Trophies? From who do you think Sony copied that off from?

Give them a break already.

MS gets far too much hate here in SW. Yes, they do overcharge for accessories and their online service, but at least they pump out quality games for the 360.

And you rip on MS for copying others, yet you forget that Sony does the same thing. Trophies? From who do you think Sony copied that off from?

Give them a break already.

SpinoRaptor24

So basically, there should only be one console, because having more than one would be a heinous crime. You may not have directly said that, but it's the exact same principle...

And it gets incredibly tiring to hear people who don't understand how business works, and are ignorant of the fact that their own favored company does that very "crime"

[QUOTE="Head_of_games"]MS saw good ideas, and tried to make a better version to make money and provide gamers with a better experience. Is that a problem? Slambo86

[QUOTE="bez2083"]

Wow, this slanted rant lasted 9 pages?!

I blame the parents.:|

cowgriller

it's easy to blame the parents, but it's easier to blame the game makers. :D can i offer you some hot coffee?

:lol:No.......thank.....you

This post will not touch on any of the original topic, and thus is it full or more win than any post that lowered itself to trying to talk sense to a fanboi.

[QUOTE="Head_of_games"]MS saw good ideas, and tried to make a better version to make money and provide gamers with a better experience. Is that a problem? Slambo86

Just like Sony.

[QUOTE="cowgriller"]

[QUOTE="Odrec"] So, since the Xbox360 with all the accessories needed to match what the PS3 can do alone is actually more expensive than the PS3 then we can say that the PS3, as a package, has a good price. Can we say then that MS would milk it's costumers when you need to buy Natal in order to play the games that use its technology? what about having to pay for online to play a very important part of most games now which is multiplayer. I mean you are paying the full price for the game and you have to pay extra to actually use all its features. More and more it seems to me that the milkage is happening in somebody else's barn here.Odrec

i know what your getting at and it's not going to work. the fact that one could go the store and buy a $200 xbox 360 that can play every game on it means that the accessories are optional and not needed. your trying to say that if you factor in the cost of the accessories that the 360 costs more than the ps3. that doesn't work. when a customer goes to a store and sees a $200 xbox 360 next to a $400 ps3 and notice that they share a vast majority of their library, they'll opt for the 360 because it's half the price.

Please explain to all of us exactly how Microsoft deceive consumers or create an illusion!

Did they advertise features that were not included?

Do they list the wrong size of HDD on the box?

Do they falsely advertise on the box a wifi adaptor is included?

Please explain how MS 'deceive' consumers because to 'deceive' you have to make something up and I would like to know where exactlyMS have made something up lol. Please how have they deceived consumers?

Yawn, another Microsoft/Xbox 360 hate thread.

[QUOTE="IronBass"]MS > Sony. 'Nuff said :Ptonitorsi

Are you wild guessing now? :roll:

[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"]If the 360 is so terrible, why is it beating the PS3 when the Wii managed to?Odrec

No people buy it because they have no other choice, its called a monopoly man and thats what they've got planned for the gaming industry.

OK.............................................??? Come on man.

[QUOTE="Tragic_Kingdom7"]

[QUOTE="AdobeArtist"] [QUOTE="Tragic_Kingdom7"]

[QUOTE="AdobeArtist"]

So Sony never watched what someone else implemented and just copied them?

Nintendo came out with controller with shoulder buttons (SNES). PS1 debutes with shoulder button controller.
Nintendo introduces analog stick and rumble pack to N64 controller. Sony introduces the dual shock controller with analog sticks for PS1.
Nintendo unveils the motion sensing controller for the Wii. Sony which had 1st showed a boomerang controller for the PS3, later goes to the old design with sixaxis, and now these motion sensing sticks.

What a short, short memory sony fanboys have :) :)

Slambo86

Don't expect a response to this post.

So, if you "addressed that", why are you so full of outrage when MS copies, but not when Sony copies? After all, you never rant about Sony.

Again, your outrage is fake. You don't really care about any "morality" (or else you'd rant about Sony too), you just want to bash Microsoft.

[QUOTE="Slambo86"]

[QUOTE="Tragic_Kingdom7"]

Don't expect a response to this post.

Tragic_Kingdom7

So, if you "addressed that", why are you so full of outrage when MS copies, but not when Sony copies. After all, you never rant about Sony.

Again, your outrage is fake.

[QUOTE="Tragic_Kingdom7"]

[QUOTE="Slambo86"] wow...who said sony never copied others? i even addressed that. God people can't read.

bingbaocao

So, if you "addressed that", why are you so full of outrage when MS copies, but not when Sony copies. After all, you never rant about Sony.

Again, your outrage is fake.

Oh. Ok. Awesome.

TC's thread never fails to amuse me......xbox 360 > ps3 yo :)

what have they done this gen besides giving a more stable online system? Don't give me achievements, because its nothing but unlockables done last gen but in a different manner.

When the 360 debuted, memory cards, NO full HD, No built in wifi, NO new format, hdmi, no new controller, nothing....it was rushed garbage. Whats even funny, when sony debuted with the attitude of FULL HD, NEW FORMAT..MS laughed and then adopted the same thing and now look at the 360...you could rename the f'en Elite the PS3. (black, 1080p, bigger HDD, HDMI)

Now with the Wii motion controller/ new interface with Mii's and installation seen with some PS3 games, which MS laughed at early on....has them doing the same thing.

MS just sit back and watch, then later adopt it and call it there own (lol at natal). While sony isn't innocent on the deal, atleast..they were first to impliment full HD movies, new format, HDMI, and overall a more quality built console, concerning inbuilt features. There original idea was to do a full entertainment system and both Wii and PS3 stick out on there own...360 is the guy trying to catch up and stick out, desperatly. Both Ninty and SONY had a vision..which was reached...MS had none, but to rush out and try and just take ground on the console war...as with everything.

whats even worse is MS claimed Natal wasn't inspired by the Wii....LMFAO!

No wonder MS is so damn hated.

all this copying and critisizing...including the fact that the 360 is the most flawed peice of hardware (RROD)....is laughable. If it wasn't for there head start, (to gain that much needed support) they would have fopped so hard. MS know this, so thats why they rushed it. Priceless.

i'm done.

Slambo86

haaha i can say the same about ps3 i mean its ridge racccceeeeeer!!!!!!!!!!!! hahahahah pathetic and halo 3> killzone 2

[QUOTE="bingbaocao"][QUOTE="Tragic_Kingdom7"]

So, if you "addressed that", why are you so full of outrage when MS copies, but not when Sony copies. After all, you never rant about Sony.

Again, your outrage is fake.

Oh. Ok. Awesome.

[QUOTE="tonitorsi"]

97%fans of the 360 forum came to this thread. >_______>

Why give a crap about something/someone you don't give a crap about. :roll:

Slambo86

What? You have been burned many times in this thread, hell I caught you owning yourself.

[QUOTE="Tragic_Kingdom7"]

[QUOTE="bingbaocao"] no use continuing this, the guy's been bannedenterawesome

Oh. Ok. Awesome.

lol, I just noticed that, what'd he get banned for?