Microsoft/Nintendo/Sony - June-Sept 2011 - Earnings Results

Microsoft

• XBOX 360 - 2.3M; LTD = 57.6M.
• US Tie Ratio = 9.0

*Segment operating income = US$352M

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Nintendo

Hardware:

• Wii - 1.79M; LTD = 89.36M
• NDS - 1.14M; LTD = 149.0M
• 3DS - 2.36M; LTD = 6.68M

Software:

• Wii - 23.01M; LTD = 752.54M
• NDS - 16.86M; LTD = 868.48M
• 3DS - 3.60M; LTD = 17.56M

Net loss = -¥70.273B

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Sony

Hardware:

• PS3 - 3.7M; LTD = 55.5M
• PSP - 1.7M; LTD = 73.1M
• PS2 - 1.2M; LTD = 153.6M

Software:

• PS3 - 37.4M; LTD = 501.9M
• PSP - 8.1M; LTD > 298M
• PS2 - 2.8M; LTD > 1.52B

*Segment operating loss = -¥34.6B

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*Sony and Microsoft's segment income/loss is not necessarily representative of the gaming products as they contain other products.

**Source for PS2/PSP LTD to June 30th 2011. Source for PS2 software LTD. Source for PSP software LTD.

Updated with earnings info from all three for the quarter.

Looks like the ps3 has a good chance of finally passing the 360 next year.

Me believe that the playstation family is the only successful product of Sony !!!!!

gaps pretty goddamn close.Sony's catching them if they keep sellign at this rate might surpass the 360 in the next year or so.

Looks like the ps3 has a good chance of finally passing the 360 next year.

lucky_star

Looks like the ps3 has a good chance of finally passing the 360 next year.

lucky_star

[QUOTE="lucky_star"]

Looks like the ps3 has a good chance of finally passing the 360 next year.

AtariKidX

Unless the x360 had a price cut which is around the corner, wanna bet?

[QUOTE="AtariKidX"][QUOTE="lucky_star"]

Looks like the ps3 has a good chance of finally passing the 360 next year.

omho88

Unless the x360 had a price cut which is around the corner, wanna bet?

if they wanted a price cut they would have done it at gears 3 considering it was probably their biggest game this year.

[QUOTE="omho88"]

[QUOTE="AtariKidX"] I total agree with that.razgriz_101

Unless the x360 had a price cut which is around the corner, wanna bet?

if they wanted a price cut they would have done it at gears 3 considering it was probably their biggest game this year.

know what is better than G3 ....xms .... I am crosiing my fingers, MS will surprise everyone ... I still believe the PS3 at its current price is much better than the X360 at 150$ .... but I am not everyone .

Looks like the ps3 has a good chance of finally passing the 360 next year.

lucky_star

more thanlikely hope microsoft gets smart and drops the systme officially to 150 and 250.
Edit: Infact they need to drop the price of the 360 to 150 on the base model and 250 on the hard drive model then drop the price of the kinect to 50 bucks.

[QUOTE="AtariKidX"][QUOTE="lucky_star"]

Looks like the ps3 has a good chance of finally passing the 360 next year.

omho88

Unless the x360 had a price cut which is around the corner, wanna bet?

They probably also get most of their LIVE Gold money from the US, and the US is more demographically similar to the target audience of the games most associated with the system.

[QUOTE="omho88"]

I total agree with that.AtariKidX

Unless the x360 had a price cut which is around the corner, wanna bet?

They probably also get most of their LIVE Gold money from the US, and the US is more demographically similar to the target audience of the games most associated with the system.

So Sony is only behind 2 million-ish? So much for people saying it wouldn't close the gap :P

360 is gonna be last this gen.

lets see 1 they haven't given up on japan. 2 like one retailer was stepping back stock otherwise it was a bunch of disinformation from a known biased website picked up by actual proper sites. *I believe the one we aren't allowed to post cause it has alot of hentai ad's*WilliamRLBaker

If the story is bogus then that's fine. But I read it on IndustryGamers who gave the source as EDGE. So does this EDGE story derive from that site with lots of hentai ads?

[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]lets see 1 they haven't given up on japan. 2 like one retailer was stepping back stock otherwise it was a bunch of disinformation from a known biased website picked up by actual proper sites. *I believe the one we aren't allowed to post cause it has alot of hentai ad's*shinrabanshou

If the story is bogus then that's fine. But I read it on IndustryGamers who gave the source as EDGE.

It shouldn't be bogus. MS can appeal to Japan all they want, but they'll never capture Japan. They simply don't know how. The 360 gets beat by the PS2 ffs.

Wow 1.2 million PS2's sold? Who is still buying these things!!!!gamebreakerz__

Japan because JRPG makers refuse to let it die. Oh, and EA Sports won't stop developing for it.

Wow 1.2 million PS2's sold? Who is still buying these things!!!!gamebreakerz__

Plenty of people left in this world that haven't experienced the second greatest console of all times yet.

Fun fact: The PS2 has sold about as much, after the start of this generation of consoles, as the HD twins have.

It shouldn't be bogus. MS can appeal to Japan all they want, but they'll never capture Japan. They simply don't know how. The 360 gets beat by the PS2 ffs.

ChubbyGuy40

But there was a response to the article from MS's Chris Lewis about them not pulling out of Japan.

That's doesn't really discredit the notion that Japanese retailers may not want to have the 360 on their shelfspace anymore.

[QUOTE="omho88"]

[QUOTE="AtariKidX"] I total agree with that.razgriz_101

Unless the x360 had a price cut which is around the corner, wanna bet?

if they wanted a price cut they would have done it at gears 3 considering it was probably their biggest game this year.

its not going to sell 2.1 million more the MS in one year since you know the wiiu releases which emns next gen starts

its not going to sell 2.1 million more the MS in one year since you know the wiiu releases which emns next gen starts

Mario1331

[QUOTE="Mario1331"]

its not going to sell 2.1 million more the MS in one year since you know the wiiu releases which emns next gen starts

The_Djoker

keep telling yourself that

Good PS3 numbers, better than I expected. 'Grats Sony.

Nintendo worries me. I just don't see where they are going to go over the long run. All of these gaming devices are going to be interconnected multi-entertainment devices. Sony can leverage its other h/w business and its movie studio for content. MS can leverage its software and networks business. Nintendo does not seem to have a sustainable business model on the h/w side.

Wii U is NOT next gen. Noone wil sel a PS3 and 360 to buy a WIiU. IT's not a genreation leap. PS4/720 is. WiiU is going to be a current gen console. The_Djoker

Generations are not determined by hardware power. They are determined by the release period, hence why the Wii is a current gen console.

[QUOTE="Mario1331"]

its not going to sell 2.1 million more the MS in one year since you know the wiiu releases which emns next gen starts

The_Djoker

Looks like the gap is getting even closer, cool.

[QUOTE="lucky_star"]

Looks like the ps3 has a good chance of finally passing the 360 next year.

Allthishate

(Whether or not they will, I have no idea).

[QUOTE="The_Djoker"][QUOTE="Mario1331"]

its not going to sell 2.1 million more the MS in one year since you know the wiiu releases which emns next gen starts

Mario1331

keep telling yourself that

What difference does that make, though? When the Wii U releases, we officially stop counting all hardware besides the Wii U?

SakusEnvoy

We officially end the generation here. If you want to keep a tally and keep it going, there's no problem. It'll just determine who officially won the System Wars at that time (though I don't think we etch it in stone or anything :P).

Good PS3 numbers, better than I expected. 'Grats Sony.

Nintendo worries me. I just don't see where they are going to go over the long run. All of these gaming devices are going to be interconnected multi-entertainment devices. Sony can leverage its other h/w business and its movie studio for content. MS can leverage its software and networks business. Nintendo does not seem to have a sustainable business model on the h/w side.

SUD123456

Yup. Lets see how well sony does in oct-december. I'd say massive numbers. I was telling you earlier that ps3 was gonna eat severely into the lead this quarter. Either ways. If it was not for kinect ps3 woukd be ahead of 360 WW right now. Microsoft was smart to release it.

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What difference does that make, though? When the Wii U releases, we officially stop counting all hardware besides the Wii U?

lundy86_4

We officially end the generation here. If you want to keep a tally and keep it going, there's no problem. It'll just determine who officially won the System Wars at that time (though I don't think we etch it in stone or anything :P).

The PS2 hadn't even hit 100 million units when the 360 was first released. Sales of old systems can remain very strong long after a new 'generation' begins; especially, it seems, Sony systems.

In my opinion, the most successful hardware is the one with the most units shipped when it is officially discontinued.

I find that really silly, though, especially if no one else is even releasing a new console. Let's presume Sony and MS actually meant it when they talked about a 10 year lifecycle -- such rules would ultimately benefit the one system that failed to last as long as its competitors, the Wii.

The PS2 hadn't even hit 100 million units when the 360 was first released. Sales of old systems can remain very strong long after a new 'generation' begins; especially, it seems, Sony systems.

In my opinion, the most successful hardware is the one with the most units shipped when it is officially discontinued.

SakusEnvoy

Maybe it is, maybe it isn't. Still, the issue arises with a simple question. If the gen doesn't start at the release of the first console, do the sales, until the competitors release their consoles, count? I guess we could have seperate ending/beginning times for generations.

I'm not outright disagreeing. You bring up some good points. I think this was just the easiest way to make the competition "fair" with regards to how SYstem Wars works. Who knows, there could be a better way :P

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its not going to sell 2.1 million more the MS in one year since you know the wiiu releases which emns next gen starts

Slashkice

The Wii U isn't dropping within the year. Nintendo likes to show things closer to release, but they're not releasing the system before the holidays.

you think its gona drop in 2013?

[QUOTE="Mario1331"]

[QUOTE="The_Djoker"] Wii U is NOT next gen. Noone wil sel a PS3 and 360 to buy a WIiU. IT's not a genreation leap. PS4/720 is. WiiU is going to be a current gen console. SakusEnvoy

keep telling yourself that

the gen is over so this whole 1st 2nd and 3rd place bs is irrelevent thats the difference it makes

lol. Every year it's the same, "Th1s iz teh yer PS3 will beatz 360!!!111!!!'. No it won't. The PS3 has been in last place since it launched in 2006. Get use to it.

[QUOTE="Mario1331"]

you think its gona drop in 2013?

Slashkice

November 2012. This quarterly report is from a period ending September 30th, meaning there's more than a full year from then to when Nintendo is likely to release the Wii U.

thats what im saying a year and a few months is not enough to ctch up to the 36o imo

[QUOTE="SakusEnvoy"]

[QUOTE="Mario1331"]

keep telling yourself that

Mario1331

the gen is over so this whole 1st 2nd and 3rd place bs is irrelevent thats the difference it makes

Heh, this to me is indicative of the silliness about how we count hardware: if the PS3 does amazing over the period of 2012-2014, and the Wii U does mediocre over its first 2 years, when Sony finally releases a PS4 in 2014 everyone will talk about Sony's huge gap compared to the Wii U and how they suddenly lost market share.

Eh sales.

I just hope they all make enough money to be able to continue what they're doing. (Maybe not so much MS lol)

[QUOTE="Mario1331"]

[QUOTE="SakusEnvoy"] What difference does that make, though? When the Wii U releases, we officially stop counting all hardware besides the Wii U?

SakusEnvoy

the gen is over so this whole 1st 2nd and 3rd place bs is irrelevent thats the difference it makes

Heh, this to me is indicative of the silliness about how we count hardware: if the PS3 does amazing over the period of 2012-2014, and the Wii U does mediocre over its first 2 years, when Sony finally releases a PS4 in 2014 everyone will talk about Sony's huge gap compared to the Wii U and how they suddenly lost market share.

they are all in the same gen it should be a cut off right after the nex system of a company comes out thats really the only fair way to judge the winner of a gen, this wasnt a problem when the ps2 came out.

whoever judges the wiiu to the ps4 if it released early is silly you got to give them time to judge them since next gen is going to be very unorthodox. i see where your coming from but it shouldnt matter who came in 2nd or 3rd when and if sony does come in second after the iiu release how much ownage is that it took sony a whole gen to leap to 2nd place?

doesnt seem logical to me

PS3 is sitting nicely and comfortably, really not surprised with the plethora of quality exclusives out.Heil68