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The amount of marketing Bullshit coming from MS is scary.
Da Cloud , Da Programers , Da increased speed. Once the Muliplats come rolling they are going to look like fools at this rate
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Now are you listing Windows 8 in the negative side because of the Start screen or because you have used it before? I'm asking because Windows 8 is essentially a much faster and efficient version of Windows 7.[QUOTE="StormyJoe"]
Well, MS programmers are a mixed bag. They give us the awesome .Net framework and DirectX, but then also gave us Windows ME, Windows VISTA, Windows 8, and the bloatware that is MS Office.
But, I think they know more about operating systems than Sony.
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I have had a considerable amount of trouble getting non .Net 4.0 apps to render and run correctly in Windows 8 clients. Also, SSRS crashes a whole lot. Thankfully, I have Win 8 isolated to a test environment.
Microsoft is getting a bit sassy all of a sudden, and they usually don't say much to anyone. i find it funny now they are going up on people faces now all of a sudden. But anyway, interesting stealth stab at the PS2 and PS3. Also, they basically said that the PS2 and PS3 proved they are a fluke (in his eyes) and that Sony is mostly only good at physical hardware but not software output optimization because of much better programmers. M$ is full of crap.Sony push the PS3 system to its limit..Just look at all the first party games that is out this past few years.. there is no games on the 360 that can compete with it..third party developers was having trouble with it..As for the PS4 its super easy to program and is way more powerful then the xbone..We going to see games on the PS4 that run and looks better ..Imagine Sony first party studio games its going to be epic..Microsoft Microsoft Director of Product Planning Albert Penello explained why there's no way the company is willing to give the competition a huge performance advantage. "Im not dismissing raw performance. Im stating as I have stated from the beginning that the performance delta between the two platforms is not as great as the raw numbers lead the average consumer to believe," "There are things about our system architecture not fully understood, and there are things about theirs as well, that bring the two systems into balance." "People DO understand that Microsoft has some of the smartest graphics programmers IN THE WORLD. We CREATED DirectX, the standard APIs that everyone programs against. So while people laude Sony for their [hardware] skills, do you really think we dont know how to build a system optimized for maximizing graphics for programmers? Seriously? There is no way were giving up a 30%+ advantage to Sony. And ANYONE who has seen both systems running could say there are great looking games on both systems. If there was really huge performance difference it would be obvious." Penello then brought up similar instances where Sony and fans of the Playstation proclaimed superior performance with the PS2 and PS3 before concluding that, "in the end, games on our system looked the same or better."
On one hand he is practically making a fool out of himself to gamers at large , but on the other one he is making sure bots stay bots by telling him the very same things that they have regurgitated over the years so they will feel better about staying bots. They are easy prey and I'd take advantage of them too.Â
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[QUOTE="Mr-Kutaragi"][QUOTE="Tessellation"]dat basement dwellers butthurt is strong here :cool:TessellationPlease lemming stop the tears. No need to dress up your consoles with your mothers underwear. :lol: you don't need to show us how butthurt you're,but you already brought up my mother to the discussion :cool: #STAYMAD. hey arent you one of those lemmings who hyped xboned specs using PC captured of Cod ghosts... lol
[QUOTE="Mr-Kutaragi"]I cannot prove that water is wet, because is common knowledge. Common knowledge that 360 does not have any game superior to Uncharted 2. Please do not cry.JakandsigzUsing that logic if I post one link and you don;t it means it's common knowledge that the 360 is better, so you better find that link before I post mine. It is common knowledge that 360 is last place no game. 360 does not have game with superior technology to Uncharted 2 from 2009. Other lemming named Gears 3, proving my point. Please, no more tears. Should get used to 2nd rate, because xbone does not have game with visual comparable to ps4 either.
You forget about the PC branch entirely. And the OS creators...... And everything else you seem to have forgotten.From all the lies they can claim this is one of the biggest...
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[QUOTE="Jakandsigz"][QUOTE="Mr-Kutaragi"]I cannot prove that water is wet, because is common knowledge. Common knowledge that 360 does not have any game superior to Uncharted 2. Please do not cry.Mr-KutaragiUsing that logic if I post one link and you don;t it means it's common knowledge that the 360 is better, so you better find that link before I post mine. It is common knowledge that 360 is last place no game. 360 does not have game with superior technology to Uncharted 2 from 2009. Other lemming named Gears 3, proving my point. Please, no more tears. Should get used to 2nd rate, because xbone does not have game with visual comparable to ps4 either. It's coomon knowledge that the PS3 is in last place unless you provide a link not VGchartz otherwise. (including links that link to VGchartz.) Go on. Post a link. Also, not only do i need a link for that, I still have a link showing the 360 is on par in 2013, so you better find that PS3 has been better since 2009 link as quick as possible before you go into a spiral of depression.
pretty much thisOn one hand he is practically making a fool out of himself to gamers at large , but on the other one he is making sure bots stay bots by telling him the very same things that they have regurgitated over the years so they will feel better about staying bots. They are easy prey and I'd take advantage of them too.Â
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this /threadFrom all the lies they can claim this is one of the biggest...
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lolno. Â The best looking exclusive on 360 is made by Epic, not MS. Â
Then again I have not played Forza and that may be up there too.
LOL!! What?!? The original XBox had the better hardware vs the PS2. Even the PS1 was pretty week compared to the competition. The PS3 & XBox 360 we just about equal. It took Sony like 3 years to finally show what the PS3 could do. Every company has some kind of PR BS. Sony is the King of PR spin. They hype everything to death and try to make their products seem 10x's better then what they really are.all microsoft can do right is fool the masses to fall into their bs PR
they always have "the best", spend "x ammount of money" yet somehow the competition always ends up with better products.
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gahahahhahaToo bad nobody at M$ studios has been able to match anything from Santa Monica Studios, ND or GG. :lol: M$ is even looking more foolish by the day with these wild baseless claims.
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[QUOTE="Krelian-co"]LOL!! What?!? The original XBox had the better hardware vs the PS2. Even the PS1 was pretty week compared to the competition. The PS3 & XBox 360 we just about equal. It took Sony like 3 years to finally show what the PS3 could do. Every company has some kind of PR BS. Sony is the King of PR spin. They hype everything to death and try to make their products seem 10x's better then what they really are. Powa of cloud, 40x, 400x AI, best graphical programmer. TLHBOall microsoft can do right is fool the masses to fall into their bs PR
they always have "the best", spend "x ammount of money" yet somehow the competition always ends up with better products.
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Microsoft is getting a bit sassy all of a sudden, and they usually don't say much to anyone. i find it funny now they are going up on people faces now all of a sudden. But anyway, interesting stealth stab at the PS2 and PS3. Also, they basically said that the PS2 and PS3 proved they are a fluke (in his eyes) and that Sony is mostly only good at physical hardware but not software output optimization because of much better programmers.OH boy!!! I can't wait to read the drivel that spews from the mouths of davekeeh and nathandrakeswag on this!!!! This is getting good after all of the $h1T Sony fanbots have talked the last two months, the time is coming near when retail outlets will be getting game kiosks and we the gaming public will get our hands on both consoles with neither off them being able to hind behind a massive wall PR lapdogs!!! Sony's in trouble!!!!! MUWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!Microsoft Microsoft Director of Product Planning Albert Penello explained why there's no way the company is willing to give the competition a huge performance advantage. "Im not dismissing raw performance. Im stating as I have stated from the beginning that the performance delta between the two platforms is not as great as the raw numbers lead the average consumer to believe," "There are things about our system architecture not fully understood, and there are things about theirs as well, that bring the two systems into balance." "People DO understand that Microsoft has some of the smartest graphics programmers IN THE WORLD. We CREATED DirectX, the standard APIs that everyone programs against. So while people laude Sony for their [hardware] skills, do you really think we dont know how to build a system optimized for maximizing graphics for programmers? Seriously? There is no way were giving up a 30%+ advantage to Sony. And ANYONE who has seen both systems running could say there are great looking games on both systems. If there was really huge performance difference it would be obvious." Penello then brought up similar instances where Sony and fans of the Playstation proclaimed superior performance with the PS2 and PS3 before concluding that, "in the end, games on our system looked the same or better."
Microsoft is getting a bit sassy all of a sudden, and they usually don't say much to anyone. i find it funny now they are going up on people faces now all of a sudden. But anyway, interesting stealth stab at the PS2 and PS3. Also, they basically said that the PS2 and PS3 proved they are a fluke (in his eyes) and that Sony is mostly only good at physical hardware but not software output optimization because of much better programmers.OH boy!!! I can't wait to read the drivel that spews from the mouths of davekeeh and nathandrakeswag on this!!!! This is getting good after all of the $h1T Sony fanbots have talked the last two months, the time is coming near when retail outlets will be getting game kiosks and we the gaming public will get our hands on both consoles with neither off them being able to hind behind a massive wall PR lapdogs!!! Sony's in trouble!!!!! MUWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! Alright, clam down dude.Microsoft Microsoft Director of Product Planning Albert Penello explained why there's no way the company is willing to give the competition a huge performance advantage. "Im not dismissing raw performance. Im stating as I have stated from the beginning that the performance delta between the two platforms is not as great as the raw numbers lead the average consumer to believe," "There are things about our system architecture not fully understood, and there are things about theirs as well, that bring the two systems into balance." "People DO understand that Microsoft has some of the smartest graphics programmers IN THE WORLD. We CREATED DirectX, the standard APIs that everyone programs against. So while people laude Sony for their [hardware] skills, do you really think we dont know how to build a system optimized for maximizing graphics for programmers? Seriously? There is no way were giving up a 30%+ advantage to Sony. And ANYONE who has seen both systems running could say there are great looking games on both systems. If there was really huge performance difference it would be obvious." Penello then brought up similar instances where Sony and fans of the Playstation proclaimed superior performance with the PS2 and PS3 before concluding that, "in the end, games on our system looked the same or better."
So while people laude Sony for their [hardware] skills, do you really think we dont know how to build a system optimized for maximizing graphics for programmers? Seriously? There is no way were giving up a 30%+ advantage to Sony. And ANYONE who has seen both systems running could say there are great looking games on both systems. If there was really huge performance difference it would be obvious."
Sounds like that "cow talk" is getting under Microsoft's skin as much it does to people here on SW. rofl
pretty much this No different then Sony telling cows what they want to hear. lol!! Albert P. seems a bit more genuine however. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8QrZP0AmUvk[QUOTE="Nike_Air"]
On one hand he is practically making a fool out of himself to gamers at large , but on the other one he is making sure bots stay bots by telling him the very same things that they have regurgitated over the years so they will feel better about staying bots. They are easy prey and I'd take advantage of them too.Â
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But but but our programmers are smarter than Sonys!!!!!!!!!!!
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Seriously sometimes i think the maturity level of the guys at microsoft is that of a 12 year old
OH boy!!! I can't wait to read the drivel that spews from the mouths of davekeeh and nathandrakeswag on this!!!! This is getting good after all of the $h1T Sony fanbots have talked the last two months, the time is coming near when retail outlets will be getting game kiosks and we the gaming public will get our hands on both consoles with neither off them being able to hind behind a massive wall PR lapdogs!!! Sony's in trouble!!!!! MUWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!ShoTTyMcNaDeSAlbert Penello?
[QUOTE="tormentos"]You forget about the PC branch entirely. And the OS creators...... And everything else you seem to have forgotten. The same guys who created the abomination that was Win8?From all the lies they can claim this is one of the biggest...
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if that is so  then we are a bunch of 3 years  old on this forum, he  didn't downplay anything.But but but our programmers are smarter than Sonys!!!!!!!!!!!
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Seriously sometimes i think the maturity level of the guys at microsoft is that of a 12 year old
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[QUOTE="Jakandsigz"][QUOTE="tormentos"]You forget about the PC branch entirely. And the OS creators...... And everything else you seem to have forgotten. The same guys who created the abomination that was Win8? Because Windows 7 died when Windows 8 came out :roll:From all the lies they can claim this is one of the biggest...
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