Miyamoto: 2009 Nintendo Games Not "Fun Enough"

[QUOTE="kansasdude2009"]

How do I make a game in 3D? Oh, look, Miyamoto just defined what 3D games will be like for the next 10 years with Mario 64!

_Pedro_

[QUOTE="_Pedro_"][QUOTE="kansasdude2009"]

How do I make a game in 3D? Oh, look, Miyamoto just defined what 3D games will be like for the next 10 years with Mario 64!

kansasdude2009

Miyamoto is a dinosaur of a past age in gaming, no one should care about what he says anymore.dgsag

Not much of a surprise considering 2009 was mostly "New Play Control games" .

[QUOTE="dgsag"]Miyamoto is a dinosaur of a past age in gaming, no one should care about what he says anymore.kansasdude2009

Not much of a surprise considering 2009 was mostly "New Play Control games" . [QUOTE="kansasdude2009"][QUOTE="dgsag"]Miyamoto is a dinosaur of a past age in gaming, no one should care about what he says anymore.forgot_it

[QUOTE="forgot_it"]

Not much of a surprise considering 2009 was mostly "New Play Control games" . [QUOTE="kansasdude2009"] Funny statement seeing as how his game ideas continue to shape this industry more than any other developer. kansasdude2009

Miyamoto is like a God of the gaming industry.

Is the North American gaming industry dying? Well then, have a little Mario! INDUSTRY SAVED!

Zelda is too long of a game, we need save files. INSERT FIRST BATTERY SAVES EVER!

How do I make a game in 3D? Oh, look, Miyamoto just defined what 3D games will be like for the next 10 years with Mario 64!

I can't ever hit the enemy in a 3D game! I guess OoT will just need the first lock-on system!

I want to make Wii Sports. Well then, I'm going to need motion. Oh look, the industry is now into motion!

I give up, i'm stil trying to wonder how i'm going to explain my personal preferences to you.

Sandvichman

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[QUOTE="Sandvichman"]

I give up, i'm stil trying to wonder how i'm going to explain my personal preferences to you.

Zanoh

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[QUOTE="Sandvichman"]

I give up, i'm stil trying to wonder how i'm going to explain my personal preferences to you.

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[QUOTE="Sandvichman"]

I give up, i'm stil trying to wonder how i'm going to explain my personal preferences to you.

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[QUOTE="Sandvichman"]

I give up, i'm stil trying to wonder how i'm going to explain my personal preferences to you.

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Not much of a surprise considering 2009 was mostly "New Play Control games" . [QUOTE="kansasdude2009"][QUOTE="dgsag"]Miyamoto is a dinosaur of a past age in gaming, no one should care about what he says anymore.forgot_it

[QUOTE="Sandvichman"]

I give up, i'm stil trying to wonder how i'm going to explain my personal preferences to you.

Zanoh

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[QUOTE="PSP107"][QUOTE="Zanoh"]

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Willy105

I don't need to use overused memes from a videogame to get my point across, but if that's what you prefer, more power to you.

[QUOTE="forgot_it"]

Not much of a surprise considering 2009 was mostly "New Play Control games" . [QUOTE="kansasdude2009"] Funny statement seeing as how his game ideas continue to shape this industry more than any other developer. Willy105

[QUOTE="Willy105"][QUOTE="PSP107"] That was mostly weakSandvichman

I don't need to use overused memes from a videogame to get my point across, but if that's what you prefer, more power to you.

[QUOTE="LegendofNerd"]

[QUOTE="Sandvichman"] Halo wars> metroid prime 3Sandvichman

Apples > Oranges

man i dont think anyone would agree with you on this one none the less nice opinion but give credit where credit is do mp3 was an amazing game and halo wars was mediocre

[QUOTE="Sandvichman"][QUOTE="LegendofNerd"]

Apples > Oranges

Mario1331

man i dont think anyone would agree with you on this one none the less nice opinion but give credit where credit is do mp3 was an amazing game and halo wars was mediocre

[QUOTE="IgorAntunov"]"exactly isnt this the guy who said he could have made halo? that made me laugh so hard " Considering he has created far better games, and multiple games far better at that, what he said is true, he could have created halo, and it would have been better no doubt.walkingdream

My two cents; I really wish Nintendo would try to improve themselves rather than finding ways to "innovate" themselves. Im a huge Nintendo fan and It seems like Nintendo has been making nothing but excuses these past two months about sales numbers (i.e "We don't make hard core games" "we don't have Bioshock 2"...ect) The truth be told all those excuses are very false and Nintendo has more than enough talent to truly please both sides of the spectrum.

I am just glad that they are not sitting nicely in their top spot throne, its good to see them worry and pressured. :P

[QUOTE="Willy105"][QUOTE="forgot_it"]How so?

Sandvichman

The game industry has exploded thanks to Nintendo, now people who aren't gamers are playing games. And to do it while on a recession is even more incredible. Maybe not from your perspective, but if you look outside, you will find a whole new game industry, with games being sold on the last places you would think of, like sports department stores and such. And this expansion predicts that you will start feeling it's effects soon enough.Willy105

Apple and web-based PC games have done more for bringing gaming to a casual crowd this generation than the Wii could ever hope to achieve. If you want to thank Nintendo, you need to go back to the original Game Boy, which has done far more for gaming than any Nintendo console. In the current age, Facebook games, iPhone apps and DS titles are awesome in terms of presence, whereas the Wii lost so much steam in 2009 that I can't consider its impact to be significantly positive.

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That's part of why Nintendo is going to the 3DS, they're looking at the DS going "we had a huge success there", and they're looking at the Wii going "we had a market success, but it didn't have the long-term reception we saw with DS". You can look at the DS and say that it absolutely dominated more "hardware capable" rivals, there are few gamers saying "oh yeah, the PSP was the way to go". Now look at the Wii - most gamers prefer the 360 / PS3. That's success you can take to the bank (the DS) when you have everyone on board.

[QUOTE="Willy105"][QUOTE="PSP107"] That was mostly weakSandvichman

I don't need to use overused memes from a videogame to get my point across, but if that's what you prefer, more power to you.

cool story bro

[QUOTE="Sandvichman"]

[QUOTE="Willy105"] Boo, hoo. Let's see you do something better.WINDWAKER1

I don't need to use overused memes from a videogame to get my point across, but if that's what you prefer, more power to you.

cool story bro

Dont you insult my N64. Lol. But I think 2010 will be better, especially with Mario, Metroid, and ZELDA!

[QUOTE="Willy105"]The game industry has exploded thanks to Nintendo, now people who aren't gamers are playing games. And to do it while on a recession is even more incredible. Maybe not from your perspective, but if you look outside, you will find a whole new game industry, with games being sold on the last places you would think of, like sports department stores and such. And this expansion predicts that you will start feeling it's effects soon enough.subrosian

Apple and web-based PC games have done more for bringing gaming to a casual crowd this generation than the Wii could ever hope to achieve. If you want to thank Nintendo, you need to go back to the original Game Boy, which has done far more for gaming than any Nintendo console. In the current age, Facebook games, iPhone apps and DS titles are awesome in terms of presence, whereas the Wii lost so much steam in 2009 that I can't consider its impact to be significantly positive.

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That's part of why Nintendo is going to the 3DS, they're looking at the DS going "we had a huge success there", and they're looking at the Wii going "we had a market success, but it didn't have the long-term reception we saw with DS". You can look at the DS and say that it absolutely dominated more "hardware capable" rivals, there are few gamers saying "oh yeah, the PSP was the way to go". Now look at the Wii - most gamers prefer the 360 / PS3. That's success you can take to the bank (the DS) when you have everyone on board.

i think you missd his point, the pc was a huge factor to making gaming more accessible to others but so was the wii and in the fact of a U.S recession they still sell out and opening up more varitey to many new customers thats in incredible feat.the wii has not lost any steam in 09 espescially selling about 4 million in one month(december NSMBW). the wii is in a good position right now and the 3DS is amzing people just like the DS did a few years back

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Not much of a surprise considering 2009 was mostly "New Play Control games" . [QUOTE="kansasdude2009"] Funny statement seeing as how his game ideas continue to shape this industry more than any other developer. Willy105

Nintendo's 2009 release list (North America):

• A Boy and His Blob (October 12, 2009)
• Metroid Prime Trilogy (August 24, 2009)
• New Play Control! Donkey Kong Jungle Beat (May 4, 2009)
• New Play Control! Mario Power Tennis (March 9, 2009)
• New Play Control! Pikmin (March 9, 2009)
• New Play Control! Pikmin 2 (April 24, 2009)
• New Super Mario Bros. Wii (November 15, 2009)
• Punch out!! (May 18, 2009)

That's 8 games, that's 4 New Play Control! games + a compilation of "New Play Control! Metroid Prime" + Metroid Prime 3. That's 5 games (7 if you really want to get technical) games we've already seen, and 3 games that we haven't. I'm pretty sure that if 5 out of 8 games are old, it's safe to say they consisted of most of Nintendo's releases on the Wii. Also, regardless of how good "Punch Out!!" and "A boy and his blob" were, the mass market overall doesn't care about them since they don't have the same presence to them as Mario, Zelda, Halo, Modern Warfare etc.

Also, while I understand that Miyamoto has had a huge influence on gaming, putting him on a high and mighty pedestal is wrong. There have been plenty of other people who have been just as involved in the success of the Wii remote, this is completely disregarding the fact that even Iwata had to remind everyone that "Miyamoto is not God". http://kotaku.com/5264577/iwata-remember-miyamoto-is-not-god

[QUOTE="Willy105"][QUOTE="PSP107"] That was mostly weakSandvichman

I don't need to use overused memes from a videogame to get my point across, but if that's what you prefer, more power to you.

You use the "Halo is great" meme going on so, hypocritical much?

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I give up, i'm stil trying to wonder how i'm going to explain my personal preferences to you.

Sandvichman

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I disagree, i just recently got Bayonetta and i had a ton of fun with it.

zarshack

Miyamoto is talking about Nintendo games not being fun enough.

To Miyamoto-san : By gosh sir, you finally got it

[QUOTE="PSP107"]@subrosian Sony popularized gaming with PS1.tomarlyn

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[QUOTE="Willy105"] Boo, hoo. Let's see you do something better.Zanoh

I don't need to use overused memes from a videogame to get my point across, but if that's what you prefer, more power to you.

You use the "Halo is great" meme going on so, hypocritical much?

[QUOTE="Sandvichman"][QUOTE="Zanoh"]

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nintendo-4life

Your kidding with me right?

Fun is completely subjective:?.

[QUOTE=" Willy105"][QUOTE="forgot_it"]How so?

forgot_it

Nintendo's 2009 release list (North America):

• A Boy and His Blob (October 12, 2009)
• Metroid Prime Trilogy (August 24, 2009)
• New Play Control! Donkey Kong Jungle Beat (May 4, 2009)
• New Play Control! Mario Power Tennis (March 9, 2009)
• New Play Control! Pikmin (March 9, 2009)
• New Play Control! Pikmin 2 (April 24, 2009)
• New Super Mario Bros. Wii (November 15, 2009)
• Punch out!! (May 18, 2009)

That's 8 games, that's 4 New Play Control! games + a compilation of "New Play Control! Metroid Prime" + Metroid Prime 3. That's 5 games (7 if you really want to get technical) games we've already seen, and 3 games that we haven't. I'm pretty sure that if 5 out of 8 games are old, it's safe to say they consisted of most of Nintendo's releases on the Wii. Also, regardless of how good "Punch Out!!" and "A boy and his blob" were, the mass market overall doesn't care about them since they don't have the same presence to them as Mario, Zelda, Halo, Modern Warfare etc.

Also, while I understand that Miyamoto has had a huge influence on gaming, putting him on a high and mighty pedestal is wrong. There have been plenty of other people who have been just as involved in the success of the Wii remote, this is completely disregarding the fact that even Iwata had to remind everyone that "Miyamoto is not God".

I'm guessing that's not from NA. Yeah, Nintendo sucks in other countries. Also, Nintendo published A Boy and His Blob in other countries? How did it do overseas?

And yeah, you ignore games that aren't Mario, Zelda, Halo, or MW, of course that's all there is going to be.

Miyamoto is not a God, just because he can make awesome games without even being a gamer or even playing that many games doesn't make him the second coming. But he has earned his respect, and he isn't anywhere close to losing it. Especially considering his most recent crazy ideas are still being hits.

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:lol:

Nintendo's 2009 release list (North America):

• A Boy and His Blob (October 12, 2009)
• Metroid Prime Trilogy (August 24, 2009)
• New Play Control! Donkey Kong Jungle Beat (May 4, 2009)
• New Play Control! Mario Power Tennis (March 9, 2009)
• New Play Control! Pikmin (March 9, 2009)
• New Play Control! Pikmin 2 (April 24, 2009)
• New Super Mario Bros. Wii (November 15, 2009)
• Punch out!! (May 18, 2009)

That's 8 games, that's 4 New Play Control! games + a compilation of "New Play Control! Metroid Prime" + Metroid Prime 3. That's 5 games (7 if you really want to get technical) games we've already seen, and 3 games that we haven't. I'm pretty sure that if 5 out of 8 games are old, it's safe to say they consisted of most of Nintendo's releases on the Wii. Also, regardless of how good "Punch Out!!" and "A boy and his blob" were, the mass market overall doesn't care about them since they don't have the same presence to them as Mario, Zelda, Halo, Modern Warfare etc.

Also, while I understand that Miyamoto has had a huge influence on gaming, putting him on a high and mighty pedestal is wrong. There have been plenty of other people who have been just as involved in the success of the Wii remote, this is completely disregarding the fact that even Iwata had to remind everyone that "Miyamoto is not God".

Willy105

I'm guessing that's not from NA. Yeah, Nintendo sucks in other countries. Also, Nintendo published A Boy and His Blob in other countries? How did it do overseas?

And yeah, you ignore games that aren't Mario, Zelda, Halo, or MW, of course that's all there is going to be.

Miyamoto is not a God, just because he can make awesome games without even being a gamer or even playing that many games doesn't make him the second coming. But he has earned his respect, and he isn't anywhere close to losing it. Especially considering his most recent crazy ideas are still being hits.

I haven't ignored any of the other games either. What I'm trying to say is that ontop of releasing a boatload of games we've already played, Nintendo releases games that only the long-time gamers recognize and care about. Those types of games will probably not sell to the new majority of consumers unless it's marketed to them like crazy.

I also agree that Miyamoto deserves respect and has had influence on how we game today but if you read the "Iwata Asks" articles, I'd hardly say that Miyamoto has been the only driving force behind the Wii's success.

Edit: It looks like I missed Wii Fit + and Wii Sports Resort. Both supposedly sold quite well, but I guess not good enough, I don't even know if Nintendo would classify Wii Fit + under "game".

Your kidding with me right?

Sandvichman

I decided i wanted to be godot :P