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#51 deactivated-5e836a855beb2
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Even my wife knows about Ratchet and Clank and she has zero interest in games.EmperorSupreme
Wait wait wait...

Did YOU tell her about it? :roll:

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#52 flashattackfina
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[QUOTE="flashattackfina"][QUOTE="SER69"]

Ratchet & Clank (November 4, 2002) -- 112,000 units

Ratchet & Clank: Going Commando (November 11, 2003) -- 125,000 units

Ratchet & Clank: Up Your Arsenal (November 3, 2004) -- 207, 500 units

Ratchet: Deadlocked (October 25, 2005) -- 55,300 units

Ratchet & Clank Future: Tools of Destruction (October 30, 2007) -- 74,500 units



World Population: 6,602,224,175

I am NOT surprised.

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those are NOT WW sales

R&C 2.93 million sold

R&C2: 2.42 milllion sold

R&C 3: 2.17 million sold

these are world widesales

Ratchet and Clank (13 million)

Good post on Worldwide sales. I was just wondering where SER69 got his numbers from. And everyone in the industry has heard of Ratchet and Clank. Miyamoto was flat out lying when he said that. Even my wife knows about Ratchet and Clank and she has zero interest in games.

SER69 sales was US only sales http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3164480

EDIT: in the first-month

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#53 arinya
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[QUOTE="EmperorSupreme"]Even my wife knows about Ratchet and Clank and she has zero interest in games.Jandurin

Wait wait wait...

Did YOU tell her about it? :roll:

I had seen Ratchet and Clank as in the characters not knowing thier names but didn't know who they were until I started coming to GS.

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#54 Private_Vegas
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Epic..... burn. What was considered to be Marios greatest platforming rival this generation went completely unnoticed by Miyamoto. That is laugh out loud hilarious.

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#55 deactivated-5e836a855beb2
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SER69 sales was US only sales http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3164480flashattackfina
So, R&C barely even sells in the states? How does it sell in Japan?
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#56 HarlockJC
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[QUOTE="ff7isnumbaone"]cause hes a damn liar. Hes heard of it.Jandurin
Why? I'd barely heard of it before I came here. And I'd only popped it into a PS2 for a few seconds. If my girlfriend's stepbrother hadn't owned it, I may never have heard of it.

I may have looked at it from time to time...But untill I came on here I never really new anything about the game. I don't know anyone who ever played it before the PS3 demo.

And yes for anyone that wants to know I own a PS1 and a PS2. The game is just not as big has many people think.

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#57 InfinityMugen
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O really Insomniac? The spherical worlds remind me of a level in Sonic Adventure 2, but maybe even Sega got that idea somewhere else...
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#58 Eponique
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O really Insomniac? The spherical worlds remind me of a level in Sonic Adventure 2, but maybe even Sega got that idea somewhere else...InfinityMugen

Sonic Adventure 2's space levels were crap. Except Sonic's and to an extent, Knuckle's.

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#59 flashattackfina
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[QUOTE="flashattackfina"]SER69 sales was US only sales http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3164480Jandurin
So, R&C barely even sells in the states? How does it sell in Japan?

20k-30k ish
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#60 deactivated-5e836a855beb2
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[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="flashattackfina"]SER69 sales was US only sales http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3164480flashattackfina
So, R&C barely even sells in the states? How does it sell in Japan?

20k-30k ish

No surprise he's never heard of it.

Does that mean Europe buys millions of Ratchet and Clank? That's weird.

Europe bought a lot of Transformers, too.

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#61 RyanWare
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I have no doubt that Miyamoto had the idea long before Insomniac. The director of SMG said in an interview that the spherical worlds were thought of back in the N64 days as a way to eliminate 3D camera problems (since there are no dead ends that require turning the camera around). Obviously the actual execution of this idea within Mario Galaxy had to draw from some inspiration, although I still doubt R&C was among them. If anyone has actually played R&C's spherical worlds and Galaxy's, they would know that there really is no comparison. R&C's are laughable compared to Galaxy's. You could say Galaxy is lightyears ahead...
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#62 Eponique
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[QUOTE="flashattackfina"][QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="flashattackfina"]SER69 sales was US only sales http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3164480Jandurin

So, R&C barely even sells in the states? How does it sell in Japan?

20k-30k ish

No surprise he's never heard of it.

Does that mean Europe buys millions of Ratchet and Clank? That's weird.

Europe bought a lot of Transformers, too.

They also bought "Imagine being mum" :x

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#63 akif22
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lol, he just owned them

there's a chance he has heard of R&C, and said that he hadn't just to own them

but there are so many games, and he only has so much time .. he won't know about all games

and being Japanese, he'll be more aware of games that sell well there

R&C isn't really a global mega-franchise is it? at least it isn't in my opinion

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#64 blitzcloud
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Umm, let me quote those sales.

"First-month performance for the entire Ratchet & Clank series, provided by the NPD Group, is as follows:

# Ratchet & Clank (November 4, 2002) -- 112,000 units
# Ratchet & Clank: Going Commando (November 11, 2003) -- 125,000 units
# Ratchet & Clank: Up Your Arsenal (November 3, 2004) -- 207, 500 units
# Ratchet: Deadlocked (October 25, 2005) -- 55,300 units
# Ratchet & Clank Future: Tools of Destruction (October 30, 2007, though released in most retailers early) -- 74,500 units"

Epic fail.

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#65 flashattackfina
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R&C got be popular in japan it even got it own manga

manga of Ratchet and Clank named Ratchet & Clank: Bang Bang Bang! Critical Danger of the Galaxy Legend (ラチェット&クランク - ガガガ!銀河のがけっぷち伝説, Ratchet & Clank - Gagaga! Ginga no Gakeppuchi Densetsu?) was serialized starting on February 2004 in the Bi-monthly Edition of the Japanese magazine, CoroCoro Comic. It is drawn by Shinbo Nomura, and is currently still being published.

The first volume containing the first 12 chapters was released on November 28th, 2005. The manga is currently only available in Japan.

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R&C got be popular in japan it even got it own manga

manga of Ratchet and Clank named Ratchet & Clank: Bang Bang Bang! Critical Danger of the Galaxy Legend (ラチェット&クランク - ガガガ!銀河のがけっぷち伝説, Ratchet & Clank - Gagaga! Ginga no Gakeppuchi Densetsu?) was serialized starting on February 2004 in the Bi-monthly Edition of the Japanese magazine, CoroCoro Comic. It is drawn by Shinbo Nomura, and is currently still being published.

The first volume containing the first 12 chapters was released on November 28th, 2005. The manga is currently only available in Japan.

flashattackfina

blue dragon has its own manga and anime over at japan.

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#67 the_h_bomb
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it's pretty hilarious though

Interviewer: What do you think of the insomniac claiming ratchet and clank was the inspiration for Galaxy?

Miyamoto: what the hell is ratchet and clank?

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#68 Weslii
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I'm pretty sure that miyamoto got the idea from this:

behold King Kai's planet from dragonball z

a lot of japanese video game developers have a lot of love for both dragonball and dragonballz. Remember that Akira toriyama invented the idea of shooting power from wrists, which capcom promptly used in street fighter.

If you play galaxy there are obvious planets that are references to king kai's planet. There are some challenges where I used the strategy that Goku used to catch Bubbles (the monkey). I mean that literally too. I was like 'why dont I just do what Goku did!'

GunSmith1_basic

Haha, I forgot all about it.
Nice.
Yeah DBZ has done a lot.
I don't care what people say about it but it's a good show.
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[QUOTE="flashattackfina"]SER69 sales was US only sales http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3164480Jandurin
So, R&C barely even sells in the states? How does it sell in Japan?

As he corrected, those are only first-month sales. I think those games have pretty good legs.

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#70 stika
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[QUOTE="flashattackfina"]

R&C got be popular in japan it even got it own manga

manga of Ratchet and Clank named Ratchet & Clank: Bang Bang Bang! Critical Danger of the Galaxy Legend (ラチェット&クランク - ガガガ!銀河のがけっぷち伝説, Ratchet & Clank - Gagaga! Ginga no Gakeppuchi Densetsu?) was serialized starting on February 2004 in the Bi-monthly Edition of the Japanese magazine, CoroCoro Comic. It is drawn by Shinbo Nomura, and is currently still being published.

The first volume containing the first 12 chapters was released on November 28th, 2005. The manga is currently only available in Japan.

istreakforfood

blue dragon has its own manga and anime over at japan.

is there anyhting that doesnt have a manga or an anime in japan?

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#71 web966
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Miyamoto is to busy making games to play other games.
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#72 comstrikeiscool
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Probably cause its a horrible game. ;)
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#74 Video_Game_King
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I'm surprised that Insomniac could actually get away with saying that. We've seen Super Mario Galaxy since 2001, when it was originally Super Mario 128. That game then evolved and matured into Super Mario Galaxy.
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Sony am Cry
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#76 onesimos
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The Japanese are very Xenophobic, so it's not surprising that a Japanese person would have never heard of a game developed and produced by an American company. This is why the Xbox 360 doesn't sell well over there.

Spindoc_SEI

That is not true and is a common misconception of the Japanese. The reason the Xbox 360 and its predessor did poorly in Japan is that Microsoft did not understand Japanese consumer culture which is different from North America and Europe.

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#77 Philmon
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Why are people arguing over this? Even if by some chance he had heard of the game, what are the chances that he has come across the one R&C game that had a spherical world theme very briefly? I mean think about it. Unless you are a fan of the R&C serise the chances of you coming across the one game in the serise that briefly featured a spherical world theme is very remote. If the game had been built around the theme of spherical worlds like SMG, then they might have an argument, but this was something that was briefly featured in one of their games.
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#78 Oscar-Wilde
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That almost sounded like a diss. Miyamoto is such a gangsta. :P
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#79 soulsofblayck
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Actually that is the key to making a good series continuously to appease fans, to not let outside influences alter your state of mind as dumb as it sounds.
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#80 LINKloco
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That almost sounded like a diss. Miyamoto is such a gangsta. :POscar-Wilde

As far as I'm concerned, he's agod damn G.8)

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#81 DaBrainz
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OMG Insomniac Games is trying to take credit for spherical worlds. HA! Last time I checked worlds were spherical in nature.

Oh yeah I came upwith the idea of stars, Nintendo ripped me off! HA!

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#82 locopatho
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Bout time Shigsy got revenge for that BS from Insomniac.
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#83 Rikusaki
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Maybe he got his idea form this:

These are all screenshots from Ratchet & Clank: Going Commando.

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#84 shoeman12
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i'm sure he has heard of it, he's just saying the r&c didn't inspire smg.
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#85 Rikusaki
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Maybe he got his idea form this:

These are all screenshots from Ratchet & Clank: Going Commando.

Rikusaki

Looks just like SMG.

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#86 HarlockJC
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Maybe he got his idea form this:

These are all screenshots from Ratchet & Clank: Going Commando.

Rikusaki

1st he already said he not heard of R&C

2nd he stated that before that he does not play many video games to begin with

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#87 Rikusaki
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[QUOTE="Rikusaki"]

Maybe he got his idea form this:

These are all screenshots from Ratchet & Clank: Going Commando.

HarlockJC

1st he already said he not heard of R&C

2nd he stated that before that he does not play many video games to begin with

Well, hes obviously lying because you are wrong.

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People should probably realize that Shiggy in all most likely cases doesn't care what the competition does. All those years when Sonic went head to head with Mario did Shiggy one time take anything from Sega Sonic to a game changing effect?

Shiggy doesn't care about what everyone else does. His hand in the creation of the Wii is proof of that. He only cares about his vision. His vision doesn't involve others ideas it involves things more like walking in his Garden and um wierd crap like that.

Blackbond

No, that was Pikmin actually which was inspire by his garden.

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#89 HarlockJC
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[QUOTE="HarlockJC"][QUOTE="Rikusaki"]

Maybe he got his idea form this:

These are all screenshots from Ratchet & Clank: Going Commando.

Rikusaki

1st he already said he not heard of R&C

2nd he stated that before that he does not play many video games to begin with

Well, hes obviously lying because you are wrong.

Link/

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#90 arinya
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[QUOTE="HarlockJC"][QUOTE="Rikusaki"]

Maybe he got his idea form this:

These are all screenshots from Ratchet & Clank: Going Commando.

Rikusaki

1st he already said he not heard of R&C

2nd he stated that before that he does not play many video games to begin with

Well, hes obviously lying because you are wrong.

Your logic is flawless...well except for the fact that in interviews before Shiggii has mentioned that he does not play video games much and yeah that N64 had a Mario demo that had Mario running around on a sphere...dunno you might wanna look into...you know...facts...?

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#91 MIYAMOTOnext007
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:lol: OH MY GOD WHAT A NOOB!!!!...seriously though.
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#92 Kev_Unreal
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Like Miyamoto, I too didn't know what's Ratchet and Clank. But that was until I joined Gamespot and heard about it.
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#93 Video_Game_King
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Maybe he got his idea form this:

These are all screenshots from Ratchet & Clank: Going Commando.

Rikusaki

Or maybe from prior experiments that culminated in the game itself, beginning after the production of Super Mario 64?

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#94 HarlockJC
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Like Miyamoto, I too didn't know what's Ratchet and Clank. But that was until I joined Gamespot and heard about it.Kev_Unreal

Ditto....I own well over a 1000 video games. Before the demo at Gamestop I had no idea what R&C were about. I did not even know what they looked like. Besides maybe screens on here.

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#95 ljlrj
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burn 2 ratchet lmfao
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#96 Gamingcucumber
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To be honest it's like asking a member of the Led Zeppelin "Oh, have you head about this band called My Chemical Romance?" To which they reply, no I havent.

SW would say: OH LORD!? You guys aresoooo full of yourself...

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#97 locopatho
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To be honest it's like asking a member of the Led Zeppelin "Oh, have you head about this band called My Chemical Romance?" To which they reply, no I havent.

SW would say: OH LORD!? You guys aresoooo full of yourself...

Gamingcucumber

Lol good analogy.

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#98 amtentori
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its more likely for miyamoto to have seen the game than to know the name.... if they showed him a picture of ratchet then he'd say... oh that game... He probably hasnt played any of the games and didnt know one of the had spheres.....

Anyways.... super mario128 demonstration in 2000 had spheres.... that is 2 years before ratchet....

Imsoniac couldnt have honestly believed that miyamoto was inspired by their games... maybe what they meant was something more like great minds think alike??

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#99 Rai
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The Japanese often don't know about American devs...and they don't really care.
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#100 Shinobishyguy
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Insomniac = Miyamotowned