Miyamoto never heard of R&C WTF?

[QUOTE="osirisomeomi"]The ratchet series has sold millions and millions of copies. If he hasn't noticed it, then he's not doing his job researching.Jandurin

I wonder how much he even plays his own games.

[QUOTE="Rikusaki"]

Maybe he got his idea form this:

These are all screenshots from Ratchet & Clank: Going Commando.

Video_Game_King

Or maybe from prior experiments that culminated in the game itself, beginning after the production of Super Mario 64?

the idea for sphere like levelsis even older than that.

Wasn't that ALSO made by Nintendo :??Video_Game_King

The ratchet series has sold millions and millions of copies. If he hasn't noticed it, then he's not doing his job researching.osirisomeomi

Researching isn't his job.

[QUOTE="Video_Game_King"]Wasn't that ALSO made by Nintendo :??Nintendo_Ownes7

Just pointing out that they had the idea for a long time.

14:37:04

Wasn't that ALSO made by Nintendo :??Video_Game_King

I always enjoyed the Jak series quite a level above the R&C series. They may feel like the same genre, but somehow, the Jak games always felt like AAA games to me.

Regardless, Miyamato is a genius videogame creator : all his ideas are more or less his own whim, and they work!

Maybe he got his idea form this:

These are all screenshots from Ratchet & Clank: Going Commando.

Rikusaki

Idont think so baby!

Insomniac loses again. They just honestly shouldnt have went there. Nintendo had this idea WAY back. Anyone who even DREAMS of arguing this after seeing this comparison is insane.

[QUOTE="Rikusaki"]

Maybe he got his idea form this:

These are all screenshots from Ratchet & Clank: Going Commando.

cipherr

Idont think so baby!

Insomniac loses again. They just honestly shouldnt have went there. Nintendo had this idea WAY back. Anyone who even DREAMS of arguing this after seeing this comparison is insane.

[QUOTE="mulac2910"]

[QUOTE="osirisomeomi"]The ratchet series has sold millions and millions of copies. If he hasn't noticed it, then he's not doing his job researching.ff7isnumbaone

His job isn't researching games. Especially average ones at that.

R&C isn't avergae. Average game gets 6.5 to 7.5. R&C is in between AA and AAA. Myamoto is full of himself and issomanic too . Also lemmings shouldn't even be talking about R&C because they dont have anything that comes to R&C.

Mario>Kameo>R+C

The mario series is light years ahead of Ratchet and Clank

Insomniac Games said a while back that it was "flattered" that the spherical worlds of Mario Galaxy were inspired by Ratchet and Clank.

Official Nintendo Magazine UK asked the father of Mario what he thought about Insomiac's comments in a recent interview, to be published in the next issue (Issue 25).

Miyamoto said he was "surprised" by Insomniac's comment. "In terms of the spherical worlds and anti-gravity," he went on to explain, "we had the original idea as soon as we finished the development of Mario 64 and had been experimenting with it for many years, even on the N64."

"It's not an idea we got from anywhere else," adds Miyamoto, before adding: "I'm sorry but I have to admit that I've never seen the game in question. Is it a PC game?"

Miyamoto learns from no-one.
http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=177554flashattackfina

The ratchet series has sold millions and millions of copies. If he hasn't noticed it, then he's not doing his job researching.osirisomeomi

[QUOTE="Rikusaki"]

Maybe he got his idea form this:

These are all screenshots from Ratchet & Clank: Going Commando.

cipherr

Idont think so baby!

Insomniac loses again. They just honestly shouldnt have went there. Nintendo had this idea WAY back. Anyone who even DREAMS of arguing this after seeing this comparison is insane.

I believe him that he doesn't even know about his competitors.

The games he makes will make someone think that he doesn't even know what a game is.

Like Wii Fit.

He should play the game Ratchet and Clank at least.

The ratchet series has sold millions and millions of copies. If he hasn't noticed it, then he's not doing his job researching.osirisomeomi

Yeah but they are no where near the same level as what he has been creating for decades.

Sorry, but I just wanted to point out something I posted earlier that was deleted and clarify my statement. Might actually educate whoever originally deleted it too, but I wouldn't be surprised if I came back to find another red exclamation on my messages or something worse.

http://webdoc.gwdg.de/edoc/ia/eese/artic22/shishin/7_2002.html

It's not surprising that a Japanese designer would have never heard of an american game developed and produced by an american company. The Japanese are (insert naughty modded word here that the mod thinks is a generalizing statement defaming a foreign group of people when in fact the above link points to the contrary). This could also explain why they are not interested in the Xbox 360.Spindoc

He knows about it, he's playing dumb.

"Is that for PC?" lol

Insomniac Games said a while back that it was "flattered" that the spherical worlds of Mario Galaxy were inspired by Ratchet and Clank.flashattackfina

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S2daul3dFzI&feature=related

Miyamoto did it first.

/thread.

damn that is ownage....

Insomniac Games said a while back that it was "flattered" that the spherical worlds of Mario Galaxy were inspired by Ratchet and Clank.

Official Nintendo Magazine UK asked the father of Mario what he thought about Insomiac's comments in a recent interview, to be published in the next issue (Issue 25).

Miyamoto said he was "surprised" by Insomniac's comment. "In terms of the spherical worlds and anti-gravity," he went on to explain, "we had the original idea as soon as we finished the development of Mario 64 and had been experimenting with it for many years, even on the N64."

"It's not an idea we got from anywhere else," adds Miyamoto, before adding: "I'm sorry but I have to admit that I've never seen the game in question. Is it a PC game?"

Miyamoto learns from no-one.
http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=177554flashattackfina

People should probably realize that Shiggy in all most likely cases doesn't care what the competition does. All those years when Sonic went head to head with Mario did Shiggy one time take anything from Sega Sonic to a game changing effect?

Shiggy doesn't care about what everyone else does. His hand in the creation of the Wii is proof of that. He only cares about his vision. His vision doesn't involve others ideas it involves things more like walking in his Garden and um wierd crap like that.

Blackbond

That's true. He's also admitted in the past that he doesn't really play video games, I believe. Just creates them.

[QUOTE="osirisomeomi"]The ratchet series has sold millions and millions of copies. If he hasn't noticed it, then he's not doing his job researching.wooooode

Yeah but they are no where near the same level as what he has been creating for decades.

I didn't know R&C existed until I came here actually. It was around April when someone said Mario Galaxy looked better than R&C (funny thread).Eponique

Yeah I found out about it in that time period too.

But I've always prefered Nintendo consoles so I haven't paid much attention to Sony's crap.

[QUOTE="Eponique"]I didn't know R&C existed until I came here actually. It was around April when someone said Mario Galaxy looked better than R&C (funny thread).Arnalion

Yeah I found out about it in that time period too.

But I've always prefered Nintendo consoles so I haven't paid much attention to Sony's crap.

Speaks like a true blind fanboy:lol:

Anyway I'm not surprised because R&C is not popular in Japan...I think (don't know the sale in Japan).

Ratchet & Clank (November 4, 2002) -- 112,000 units

Ratchet & Clank: Going Commando (November 11, 2003) -- 125,000 units

Ratchet & Clank: Up Your Arsenal (November 3, 2004) -- 207, 500 units

Ratchet: Deadlocked (October 25, 2005) -- 55,300 units

Ratchet & Clank Future: Tools of Destruction (October 30, 2007) -- 74,500 units

World Population: 6,602,224,175

I am NOT surprised.

SER69

http://vgchartz.com/games/index.php?name=ratchet+and+clank&console=&publisher=&genre=&keyword=&order=Last+Updated

I'd say it's more likely he's been condescending. Notice how he asks if it's on PC? That's a system virtually non-existent in mainstream Japanese gaming.

Of course it's always possible he legitmately didn't know.

Like Miyamoto, I too didn't know what's Ratchet and Clank. But that was until I joined Gamespot and heard about it.Kev_Unreal

I'd say it's more likely he's been condescending. Notice how he asks if it's on PC? That's a system virtually non-existent in mainstream Japanese gaming.

Of course it's always possible he legitmately didn't know.

Danm_999

There's always those hentai games...

[QUOTE="Danm_999"]

I'd say it's more likely he's been condescending. Notice how he asks if it's on PC? That's a system virtually non-existent in mainstream Japanese gaming.

Of course it's always possible he legitmately didn't know.

Eponique

There's always those hentai games...

I'm aware :P

That's why I used the qualifier 'mainstream'.

Although in Japan....

[QUOTE="Eponique"][QUOTE="Danm_999"]

I'd say it's more likely he's been condescending. Notice how he asks if it's on PC? That's a system virtually non-existent in mainstream Japanese gaming.

Of course it's always possible he legitmately didn't know.

Danm_999

There's always those hentai games...

I'm aware :P

That's why I used the qualifier 'mainstream'.

Although in Japan....

What if Miyamoto thinks Ratchet is a hentai game?

wow 13 million between 6 games...thats really crappy

This is quite the lol. R&C has got nothing on ANY Mario game from the main series (Sunshine Included, SS:LL not Doki Doki Panic, and not withstanding Mario Hotel and all the crap spin offs (Especially the CD-i)).

Hell Jak1 is better than R&C:TOD. I love Jak and Daxter, those games are decent platformers, still not a Mario but meh.

I think Miyamoto is pretty sheltered from the rest of the gaming world. A bit like Team ICO who apparently had played barely any games before they made ICO.

However, he can say "lol, I dont know them" and "I had this idea in N64 days" as much as he wants. The fact is Insomniac produced and delivered the idea of spherical worlds in a platformer long before Miyamoto did. Therefore they should be credited with the creation of the idea. Still, they never really dared to take it as far as Miyamoto did.

I'm surprised he doesn't know... or does he just pretend he doesn't?

Either way... SMG is still the best of its genre. R&C is too much of a shooting game rather then a real platformer.

Or maybe from prior experiments that culminated in the game itself, beginning after the production of Super Mario 64?Video_Game_King

Where did Rikusaki go ?

:lol:

hes quite obviously a liar, hes just to up himself to admit he got inspriation from ANYWHERE this is what i hate about nintendo, they make great gmes then have to on about how they are totaly original. he got the idea from somewhere and sphereical worlds have featured in the R&C universe (i love the little fuzzy guy!) so unless he's been locked in a bubble for 10 years he will have seen them. god this guy is so up himselfthegoldenpoo

omg, have you even read the posts in this thread?