Mocrosoft DESPERATELY needs MORE EXCLUSIVES, because SONY is oozing BRAND NEW IP

[QUOTE="Silverbond"]I'd say MS is doing pretty well for themselves right now.arbitor365

so is activision. It isnt much of a defense

[QUOTE="Silverbond"]I'd say MS is doing pretty well for themselves right now.carljohnson3456

[QUOTE="navyguy21"][QUOTE="meetroid8"] Why would I care about games I can play anywhere else, and often play better versions elsewhere as well? No matter how many over hyped, over rated, over budgeted, and over rehashed multiplats are released, exclusives will still be the determining factor for the quality of a system's library. meetroid8

There are very few games which can be played on every single platform, but if you mean multi-plats, well, those certainly help a system's library.

[QUOTE="Silverbond"]I'd say MS is doing pretty well for themselves right now.carljohnson3456

thats where the money is at for them and peopel here really need to understand these companies ARE businesses and nothing more

[QUOTE="carljohnson3456"][QUOTE="Silverbond"]I'd say MS is doing pretty well for themselves right now.Mario1331

thats where the money is at for them and peopel here really need to understand these companies ARE businesses and nothing more

[QUOTE="carljohnson3456"][QUOTE="Silverbond"]I'd say MS is doing pretty well for themselves right now.Mario1331

thats where the money is at for them and peopel here really need to understand these companies ARE businesses and nothing more

[QUOTE="Mario1331"]

[QUOTE="carljohnson3456"] For themselves, yes. I know it's a business, I'm a business man myself. But I do right by my customers. MS isnt in my opinion. Maybe the industry is changing. Maybe Sony is behind, but to me, Sony is still delivering to the same audience it did in 1995. Microsoft isnt delivering to the same audience it did in 2002 or whenever it launched. Seems to me they're more worried about the audience the Wii pioneered in 2007. carljohnson3456

thats where the money is at for them and peopel here really need to understand these companies ARE businesses and nothing more

[QUOTE="carljohnson3456"][QUOTE="Mario1331"]

thats where the money is at for them and peopel here really need to understand these companies ARE businesses and nothing more

mems_1224

[QUOTE="Mario1331"]

[QUOTE="carljohnson3456"] For themselves, yes. I know it's a business, I'm a business man myself. But I do right by my customers. MS isnt in my opinion. Maybe the industry is changing. Maybe Sony is behind, but to me, Sony is still delivering to the same audience it did in 1995. Microsoft isnt delivering to the same audience it did in 2002 or whenever it launched. Seems to me they're more worried about the audience the Wii pioneered in 2007. carljohnson3456

thats where the money is at for them and peopel here really need to understand these companies ARE businesses and nothing more

thats my point the core audinece is seriously dying. the core is so hard to please and by how much Ms,Sony,Ninty spend each year pumping games out and shipping them each year they need to see an increase in profit just to stay comfortable.

i get we as the core are getting shafted and weve been there from the start but you really cant blame them

[QUOTE="Mario1331"]

[QUOTE="carljohnson3456"] For themselves, yes. I know it's a business, I'm a business man myself. But I do right by my customers. MS isnt in my opinion. Maybe the industry is changing. Maybe Sony is behind, but to me, Sony is still delivering to the same audience it did in 1995. Microsoft isnt delivering to the same audience it did in 2002 or whenever it launched. Seems to me they're more worried about the audience the Wii pioneered in 2007. White_Dreams

thats where the money is at for them and peopel here really need to understand these companies ARE businesses and nothing more

wth are they producing then?

[QUOTE="Silverbond"]I'd say MS is doing pretty well for themselves right now.arbitor365

so is activision. It isnt much of a defense

i honestly believe personally sony pumps out so many New ips each gen because they need to find that it game for them, which theya re still struggling to find

i get we as the core are getting shafted and weve been there from the start but you really cant blame themMario1331

i honestly believe personally sony pumps out so many New ips each gen because they need to find that it game for them, which theya re still struggling to find

Mario1331

[QUOTE="mems_1224"][QUOTE="carljohnson3456"] That's totally fine, but I'm sure the majority of the core audiences of all four system could care less about Dance Party or whatever the hell that game is that sells for Kinect. carljohnson3456

[QUOTE="Mario1331"]

i honestly believe personally sony pumps out so many New ips each gen because they need to find that it game for them, which theya re still struggling to find

carljohnson3456

yea but how man of those put halo and mario numbers?

i love sony and im not saying i dont love their new ips they really the only ones that stil do it besides nintendo(but they do it on handhelds) but i feel once they get a game that makes mario money they gona produce less ips

this is all my theory and im hoping im wrong btw because this is why i love sony

[QUOTE="carljohnson3456"]

[QUOTE="mems_1224"] why is it bad to have games that everyone can enjoy?? not every game has to be an rpg or some deep meaningful game....mems_1224

EDIT: Oops, all of them except for Killzone, of course. :)

i love sony and im not saying i dont love their new ips they really the only ones that stil do it besides nintendo(but they do it on handhelds) but i feel once they get a game that makes mario money they gona produce less ipsMario1331

MS just sold 1.7 million systems last month...in its 6th year. Highly doubt MS cares about exclusives right now.

Kingpin0114

Yea but most of them where the Kinect bundles so MS needs new IP and not more Kinect IP.

[QUOTE="mems_1224"][QUOTE="carljohnson3456"] No kiddin, but when it seems like they've completely abandoned the idea of making NEW core IP's instead all together, theres the problem.

carljohnson3456

EDIT: Oops, all of them except for Killzone, of course. :)

alan wake

viva pinata

crack down

saints row

mass effect

bioshock

dead rising

left 4 dead

prey

off the top of my head all of those were decent games and console exclusives that debuted only on the 360. im sure im forgetting some

[QUOTE="Kingpin0114"]

MS just sold 1.7 million systems last month...in its 6th year. Highly doubt MS cares about exclusives right now.

HaloPimp978

Yea but most of them where the Kinect bundles so MS needs new IP and not more Kinect IP.

Desperately??

Yeah... let me know when more than two PS3 exclusives sell over 5 million copies, or at least one PS3 exclusive sells over 10 million copies.

At least lemmings and sheep buy their exclusives, no matter how mediocre the game is (Fable 3/Mario Kart).

[QUOTE="carljohnson3456"]

[QUOTE="mems_1224"] yea cause sony was full of new ips this years. resistance 3, killzone 3, uncharted 3... infamous 2....oh waitmems_1224

EDIT: Oops, all of them except for Killzone, of course. :)

alan wake

viva pinata

crack down

saints row

mass effect

bioshock

dead rising

left 4 dead

prey

off the top of my head all of those were decent games and console exclusives that debuted only on the 360. im sure im forgetting some

They're definitely going to have to get a new Gears next gen. Maybe 2 new Gears.

[QUOTE="mems_1224"]

[QUOTE="carljohnson3456"] Oh wait... all of them are new franchises from this gen... right? Didnt they just release Heavy Rain last year? And announce a new IP a few days ago? And probably some more franchises I could make a point with if I wanted to but wont bother with right now.

EDIT: Oops, all of them except for Killzone, of course. :)

carljohnson3456

alan wake

viva pinata

crack down

saints row

mass effect

bioshock

dead rising

left 4 dead

prey

off the top of my head all of those were decent games and console exclusives that debuted only on the 360. im sure im forgetting some

[QUOTE="HaloPimp978"]

[QUOTE="Kingpin0114"]

MS just sold 1.7 million systems last month...in its 6th year. Highly doubt MS cares about exclusives right now.

mems_1224

Yea but most of them where the Kinect bundles so MS needs new IP and not more Kinect IP.

[QUOTE="carljohnson3456"]

[QUOTE="mems_1224"]gears

alan wake

viva pinata

crack down

saints row

mass effect

bioshock

dead rising

left 4 dead

prey

off the top of my head all of those were decent games and console exclusives that debuted only on the 360. im sure im forgetting some

mems_1224

[QUOTE="carljohnson3456"]

[QUOTE="mems_1224"]gears

alan wake

viva pinata

crack down

saints row

mass effect

bioshock

dead rising

left 4 dead

prey

off the top of my head all of those were decent games and console exclusives that debuted only on the 360. im sure im forgetting some

mems_1224

[QUOTE="White_Dreams"][QUOTE="Mario1331"]

thats where the money is at for them and peopel here really need to understand these companies ARE businesses and nothing more

Mario1331

wth are they producing then?

[QUOTE="mems_1224"][QUOTE="HaloPimp978"]

Yea but most of them where the Kinect bundles so MS needs new IP and not more Kinect IP.

carljohnson3456

[QUOTE="carljohnson3456"][QUOTE="mems_1224"] what does it matter if its a kinect game? mems_1224

[QUOTE="mems_1224"]

[QUOTE="carljohnson3456"] Because Kinect isnt delivering to the core fan base, ya know, the fan base that sold the first 40,000,000 360s?!?! Yeah yeah, you can act like that there's nothing wrong with Kinect or a game delivering to a casual audience, and there isnt... what's wrong is that it's clear that MICROSOFT (not Ubisoft, EA, Activision, Capcom, etc) has clearly slowed it's first party core game development in favor of Kinect garbage. We'll always have Gears, Halo, Forza, yada, yada from MS, but how many games will we NOT see because they'd rather invest in Kinect than to take a "chance" on a new core IP?carljohnson3456

no i really dont. especially when sony just releases uncharted, LBP, MLB the show and like 8 mediocre, forgettable games. to me halo and gears are waaay better than anything on ps3mems_1224

They need to go out and buy some studios. I bet Insomniac like to be bought by MS. :D

Doesn't matter about having lots of exclusives because the 360 is still kicking the PS3's butt. :lol: Also Halo is worth 90% of Sony's exclusives they are never going to beat it! :cool:

Doesn't matter about having lots of exclusives because the 360 is still kicking the PS3's butt. :lol: Also Halo is worth 90% of Sony's exclusives they are never going to beat it! :cool:

xhawk27

[QUOTE="xhawk27"]

Doesn't matter about having lots of exclusives because the 360 is still kicking the PS3's butt. :lol: Also Halo is worth 90% of Sony's exclusives they are never going to beat it! :cool:

White_Dreams

Microsoft is releasing a new console. Why make new IP's for the 360? Save them for next gen

[QUOTE="White_Dreams"][QUOTE="xhawk27"]

Doesn't matter about having lots of exclusives because the 360 is still kicking the PS3's butt. :lol: Also Halo is worth 90% of Sony's exclusives they are never going to beat it! :cool:

mems_1224

its funny how the most common excuse being used here is

"microsoft is making plenty of money off of the kinect and multiplats, so it doesnt even matter"

do you guys hear yourselves? last I checked, you guys arent gaining anything from microsoft's monetary success. The Xbox is basically a self perpetuating multiplat machine (a poor man's PC), and micosoft is barely providing any original material, despite supposedly being the most succesful console.

if you look back at any of the consoles of previous generations like the SNES, PS1, N64, PS2, and gamecube, they all provided a vast number of exclusive titles. why? because, being the big players in the gaming world and they had this crazy idea that consoles should be positioned on the stregnth of the libraries and original content.

microsoft doesnt share that ideology. microsoft doesnt seem to care about actually producing content for the public, like a console maker should be doing. why? because they realize that they are making enough money with their casual kinect garbage, their horrendously desaturated library of exclusives, and their overpriced online service, that they dont need to produce new content. money is the only thing that matters to them. and you dumbasses are rewarding them and praising them for it.

arbitor365

This... I have been questioning lemmings for years.. and I still don't get it. What do they see in the crapy halo and fable games... when other consoles deliver tons of great exclusives year after year. Sony has a proven track record of supporting gaming with original content...but lemmings are happy with a casual crap, halo, fable, and are estatic like they own stock if ms is making money, even though they don't gain crap from it. They seem delusional. I have seen this for years. And predicted the demise of the xbox exclusive game back in 2008 when they killed off their developers, when the xbox creators left the company... its when the "Suits" took over and ruled everything. They don't do anything for the good of gaming... it's all to line their pockets. How do you lemmings not see this? And how do you not see the tons of games that you don't get to play on ps3?Midnightshade29

Well that was one of the most Fanboy drivvel filled posts I've ever seen.

I love how if a low level user makes threads bashing Sony it's "oh you're a terrible person" but if some low level person bashes MS, everyone acknowledges the slime like they actually have a ****ing clue what they're talking about.

i am seeing countless lemmings (especially in this thread) using sales and monetary success as the "be all, end all" factor to vindicate the 360. I see them standing up to cheer for a desaturated exclusive librariy, bloated milked franchises, and shameless casual-ware. i see them praising the company who has profited greatly off of these tactics and who apparently they see as the ideal example of what a current gen console should be.

this invokes various feelings in me. including: disgust, dread, pity, indifference, nausea and a general fear for the future of gaming