Modern Warfare 2 Most Pirated game of 2009, 4.1 million downloads on the PC

A lot of damage control here.

[QUOTE="ZAGAV3"]

Taking into account how MW2 outsold CoD4 so quickly on the PC, the sales must have been bad.

AnnoyedDragon

All you have done is proved your opinion is irrelevant because you are motivated by fanboyism; not facts. You were so quick to bash PC that you didn't bother to even do any research before saying the sales were bad, it didn't even occur to you. Even then you estimated around 2 million sales, which is hardly what you would call bad for any game, most hyped PS3 titles only sell around that amount.

Even if you manage to scrounge up a source now, you have already demonstrated you are bash first; confirm later.

It's the facts. CoD4 sold terribly on the PC compared to the console version.

[QUOTE="AnnoyedDragon"]

[QUOTE="ZAGAV3"]

Taking into account how MW2 outsold CoD4 so quickly on the PC, the sales must have been bad.

ZAGAV3

All you have done is proved your opinion is irrelevant because you are motivated by fanboyism; not facts. You were so quick to bash PC that you didn't bother to even do any research before saying the sales were bad, it didn't even occur to you. Even then you estimated around 2 million sales, which is hardly what you would call bad for any game, most hyped PS3 titles only sell around that amount.

Even if you manage to scrounge up a source now, you have already demonstrated you are bash first; confirm later.

It's the facts. CoD4 sold terribly on the PC compared to the console version.

I don't think IW was complaining much

[QUOTE="ZAGAV3"]

[QUOTE="AnnoyedDragon"]

All you have done is proved your opinion is irrelevant because you are motivated by fanboyism; not facts. You were so quick to bash PC that you didn't bother to even do any research before saying the sales were bad, it didn't even occur to you. Even then you estimated around 2 million sales, which is hardly what you would call bad for any game, most hyped PS3 titles only sell around that amount.

Even if you manage to scrounge up a source now, you have already demonstrated you are bash first; confirm later.

AdrianWerner

It's the facts. CoD4 sold terribly on the PC compared to the console version.

I don't think IW was complaining much

Lol, you mean PC games? Look at this:

"Infinity Ward has already claims that PC sales of Modern Warfare 2 surpassed the sales of its predecessor, Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare. Now a new Gamasutra report shows that the NPD Group revealed the retail store sales of the game in November in the US.

According to the report, the game sold 170,000 copies in retail stores, which is a pretty respectable number for any PC game these days. However, the story points out that those numbers do not take into account PC sales in retail stores overseas or via the Steam download service. The final sales numbers are likely much higher."

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This dude speaks the truth. When was the last time a PC game debuted with over 1 million in sales in NPD? :lol:

If this was the Xbox 360 version selling 170k, it would have been called the biggest flop of all time, because the sales standards are much higher on consoles.

[QUOTE="ZAGAV3"]

[QUOTE="AnnoyedDragon"]

All you have done is proved your opinion is irrelevant because you are motivated by fanboyism; not facts. You were so quick to bash PC that you didn't bother to even do any research before saying the sales were bad, it didn't even occur to you. Even then you estimated around 2 million sales, which is hardly what you would call bad for any game, most hyped PS3 titles only sell around that amount.

Even if you manage to scrounge up a source now, you have already demonstrated you are bash first; confirm later.

It's the facts. CoD4 sold terribly on the PC compared to the console version.

I don't think IW was complaining much

It's the facts. CoD4 sold terribly on the PC compared to the console version.

ZAGAV3

So now we are judging horrible sales not by horrible sales; but by how it sold in proportion to the console version?

This dude speaks the truth. When was the last time a PC game debuted with over 1 million in sales in NPD? :lol:

If this was the Xbox 360 version selling 170k, it would have been called the biggest flop of all time, because the sales standards are much higher on consoles.

ZAGAV3

This dude speaks the truth. When was the last time a PC game debuted with over 1 million in sales in NPD? :lol: If this was the Xbox 360 version selling 170k, it would have been called the biggest flop of all time, because the sales standards are much higher on consoles.ZAGAV3

[QUOTE="ZAGAV3"]

It's the facts. CoD4 sold terribly on the PC compared to the console version.

AnnoyedDragon

So now we are judging horrible sales not by horrible sales; but by how it sold in proportion to the console version?

If you think IW was really happy with the sales of CoD4, then you're wrong.

Any proof ? I bet you cannot find any lol.Jamex1987

[QUOTE="ZAGAV3"]This dude speaks the truth. When was the last time a PC game debuted with over 1 million in sales in NPD? :lol: If this was the Xbox 360 version selling 170k, it would have been called the biggest flop of all time, because the sales standards are much higher on consoles.Vandalvideo

StarCraft is different, let's not compare SC to Call of Duty. If StarCraft was released on the PC, N64 and PS1, I doubt it would have seen the PC success.

If you think IW was really happy with the sales of CoD4, then you're wrong.

ZAGAV3

Like the source on sales you provided earlier proved so well?

If you think IW was really happy with the sales of CoD4, then you're wrong.

ZAGAV3

ANd they already said they are happy about MW2 PC sales you complain so much about

[QUOTE="Jamex1987"]

Any proof ? I bet you cannot find any lol.AdrianWerner

If you think IW was really happy with the sales of CoD4, then you're wrong.ZAGAV3

StarCraft is different, let's not compare SC to Call of Duty. If StarCraft was released on the PC, N64 and PS1, I doubt it would have seen the PC success.ZAGAV3

Fail, you cannot count the number of downloads and say that is how many sales were lost.

That said, excuse me if I don't shed a tear for a game that treated PC gamers like trash.

AnnoyedDragon

[QUOTE="ZAGAV3"]If you think IW was really happy with the sales of CoD4, then you're wrong.Vandalvideo

They just don't want to sadden their fellow PC slaves. Selling tremendously well is like Halo, Mario or WoW.

[QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]

[QUOTE="Jamex1987"]

Any proof ? I bet you cannot find any lol.Jamex1987

http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/23854/WBIE_TT_Games_Announce_Lego_Harry_Potter_Years_14.php?story=23853

They just don't want to sadden their fellow PC slaves. Selling tremendously well is like Halo, Mario or WoW.ZAGAV3

[QUOTE="AnnoyedDragon"]

Fail, you cannot count the number of downloads and say that is how many sales were lost.

That said, excuse me if I don't shed a tear for a game that treated PC gamers like trash.

locopatho

StarCraft is different, let's not compare SC to Call of Duty. If StarCraft was released on the PC, N64 and PS1, I doubt it would have seen the PC success.

ZAGAV3

This doesn't make sense.

Proof of what you are saying?

[QUOTE="locopatho"][QUOTE="AnnoyedDragon"]

Fail, you cannot count the number of downloads and say that is how many sales were lost.

That said, excuse me if I don't shed a tear for a game that treated PC gamers like trash.

AdrianWerner

[QUOTE="ZAGAV3"]StarCraft is different, let's not compare SC to Call of Duty. If StarCraft was released on the PC, N64 and PS1, I doubt it would have seen the PC success.Vandalvideo

Not many PC games sell around 10 million. StarCraft, WoW, then probably no one except The Sims.

But then again, let's not look back at the past, when PC games were selling well. Modern Warfare 2 on the Xbox alone probably outsold all PC games in the month of November combined, which is very sad.

[QUOTE="Jamex1987"][QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]Even Crysis sold close to 2mln, you're telling me that COD4, which always ranked higher on any sales chart than Crysis didn;t sell that much?

http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/23854/WBIE_TT_Games_Announce_Lego_Harry_Potter_Years_14.php?story=23853

[QUOTE="Jamex1987"][QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]Even Crysis sold close to 2mln, you're telling me that COD4, which always ranked higher on any sales chart than Crysis didn;t sell that much?

AdrianWerner

http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/23854/WBIE_TT_Games_Announce_Lego_Harry_Potter_Years_14.php?story=23853

Is that a respectable figure? Maybe for PC standards. Crysis and Halo 3 were probably the two most hyped first-person shooters of 2007, and while Crysis sold 1.5 million in several months, Halo 3 did more than that in a day.

And the reason for this is Halo being on a console, while Crysis is on the PC.

If Crytek released Crysis for consoles, it would have been a very successful game.

Not many PC games sell around 10 million. StarCraft, WoW, then probably no one except The Sims.But then again, let's not look back at the past, when PC games were selling well. Modern Warfare 2 on the Xbox alone probably outsold all PC games in the month of November combined, which is very sad.ZAGAV3

[QUOTE="AnnoyedDragon"]

Fail, you cannot count the number of downloads and say that is how many sales were lost.

That said, excuse me if I don't shed a tear for a game that treated PC gamers like trash.

locopatho

I don't condone piracy, but the way they downgraded and over charged for the game is clearly going to PO some people, a higher piracy rate is to be expect.

Though I still object to a figure like that, it's void of common sense. It's like handing out a product for free, counting how many people accepted a free product, then used that as an estimated sale figure for when they started charging for it.

StarCraft is different, let's not compare SC to Call of Duty. If StarCraft was released on the PC, N64 and PS1, I doubt it would have seen the PC success.

ZAGAV3

Don't you even bother to check wiki?

[QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]

[QUOTE="locopatho"] So your ok with over 4 million copies of it being stolen?locopatho

Nobody is saying (well..nobody sane that is) that piracy is good. Nah, it's wrong and damaging to industry, but it is a different type of crime from theft

If Crytek released Crysis for consoles, it would have been a very successful game.

ZAGAV3

[QUOTE="ZAGAV3"]Not many PC games sell around 10 million. StarCraft, WoW, then probably no one except The Sims.But then again, let's not look back at the past, when PC games were selling well. Modern Warfare 2 on the Xbox alone probably outsold all PC games in the month of November combined, which is very sad.Vandalvideo

Generalization much? You think all PC games are like Starcraft?

Not many PC games sell around 10 million. StarCraft, WoW, then probably no one except The Sims.

ZAGAV3

[QUOTE="ZAGAV3"]

If Crytek released Crysis for consoles, it would have been a very successful game.

AdrianWerner

You don't need to advertise, and it doesn't need to be expensive. Look at Gears of War and Assassin's Creed.

AC reached sales in the region of 10 million, and that's thanks to the consoles, not the PC.

Generalization much? You think all PC games are like Starcraft?

ZAGAV3

Do you think all multiplat games are like CoD:MW2?

Generalization much? You think all PC games are like Starcraft?

ZAGAV3

Generalization much? You think all PC games are like Starcraft?ZAGAV3

[QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]

[QUOTE="ZAGAV3"]

If Crytek released Crysis for consoles, it would have been a very successful game.

ZAGAV3

You don't need to advertise, and it doesn't need to be expensive. Look at Gears of War and Assassin's Creed.

AC reached sales in the region of 10 million, and that's thanks to the consoles, not the PC.

Making and marketing PC game is dirty cheap compared to making and marketing console one

Asassins Creed 2 was developed by 450 people's team, that's more than all 5 studios Crytek owns are combined

You don't need to advertise, and it doesn't need to be expensive. Look at Gears of War and Assassin's Creed.

AC reached sales in the region of 10 million, and that's thanks to the consoles, not the PC.

ZAGAV3

AC is a crap game that only fits console tastes. Half an hour of action and then mindless repetition of action scenes.

It was released on consoles months earlier.

This example is as void as your whole argument.

[QUOTE="ZAGAV3"]Not many PC games sell around 10 million. StarCraft, WoW, then probably no one except The Sims.But then again, let's not look back at the past, when PC games were selling well. Modern Warfare 2 on the Xbox alone probably outsold all PC games in the month of November combined, which is very sad.Vandalvideo

[QUOTE="ZAGAV3"]

Not many PC games sell around 10 million. StarCraft, WoW, then probably no one except The Sims.

AdrianWerner

FAIL.

Modern Warfare 2 on consoles hit the 10 million a long time ago, probably. Despite the userbase being smaller than 60 million, and the PC userbase over a billion.

Halo 3 had sold more than 8 million in Europe and U.S. alone, by April 2008, that's when Crysis hit 1.5 million, lol. Considering how well it has sold since then, and being 20 months old and outselling Killzone 2 in the month of April 2009 ( :lol: ), it's well over 10 million now. And imagine if it was released in 1998, with StarCraft. It would have destroyed StarCraft!

NSMB will hit 10 million, too, in its lifetime.

Not to mention games like CoD4 (consoles), Wii Fit and Grand Theft Auto IV for consoles.

:)

[QUOTE="Jamex1987"] Games continue to sell but how many copies? You don't even know the numbers and not every game is Starcraft, World of Warcraft or The Sims. Halo 3 and many games released years ago are still selling but unlike the PC new games take the top spot. Vandalvideo

[QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]

[QUOTE="ZAGAV3"]

Not many PC games sell around 10 million. StarCraft, WoW, then probably no one except The Sims.

ZAGAV3

FAIL.

Modern Warfare 2 on consoles hit the 10 million a long time ago, probably. Despite the userbase being smaller than 60 million, and the PC userbase over a billion.

Halo 3 had sold more than 8 million in Europe and U.S. alone, by April 2008, that's when Crysis hit 1.5 million, lol. Considering how well it has sold since then, and being 20 months old and outselling Killzone 2 in the month of April 2009 ( :lol: ), it's well over 10 million now. And imagine if it was released in 1998, with StarCraft. It would have destroyed StarCraft!

NSMB will hit 10 million, too, in its lifetime.

Not to mention games like CoD4 (consoles), Wii Fit and Grand Theft Auto IV for consoles.

:)

So you failed, I was right..hardly any console games reach 10mln either, not even 1% of them do

You really think that? The majority of PC games hit the bargain bin at $5.00 or less not too long after launch. 120K a month for several years? Ok.Jamex1987

[QUOTE="ZAGAV3"]

[QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]ermm..hardly any console games ever sell 10 mln too :]

AdrianWerner

FAIL.

Modern Warfare 2 on consoles hit the 10 million a long time ago, probably. Despite the userbase being smaller than 60 million, and the PC userbase over a billion.

Halo 3 had sold more than 8 million in Europe and U.S. alone, by April 2008, that's when Crysis hit 1.5 million, lol. Considering how well it has sold since then, and being 20 months old and outselling Killzone 2 in the month of April 2009 ( :lol: ), it's well over 10 million now. And imagine if it was released in 1998, with StarCraft. It would have destroyed StarCraft!

NSMB will hit 10 million, too, in its lifetime.

Not to mention games like CoD4 (consoles), Wii Fit and Grand Theft Auto IV for consoles.

:)

So you failed, I was right..hardly any console games reach 10mln either, not even 1% of them do

Which game on the PC this generation has sold ~10 million?

[QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]

[QUOTE="ZAGAV3"]

Not many PC games sell around 10 million. StarCraft, WoW, then probably no one except The Sims.

ZAGAV3

FAIL.

Modern Warfare 2 on consoles hit the 10 million a long time ago, probably. Despite the userbase being smaller than 60 million, and the PC userbase over a billion.

Halo 3 had sold more than 8 million in Europe and U.S. alone, by April 2008, that's when Crysis hit 1.5 million, lol. Considering how well it has sold since then, and being 20 months old and outselling Killzone 2 in the month of April 2009 ( :lol: ), it's well over 10 million now. And imagine if it was released in 1998, with StarCraft. It would have destroyed StarCraft!

NSMB will hit 10 million, too, in its lifetime.

Not to mention games like CoD4 (consoles), Wii Fit and Grand Theft Auto IV for consoles.

:)