More details on Halo 3's FORGE, You wanted innovation? YOU GOT IT!

[QUOTE="wolverine4262"][QUOTE="foxhound_fox"][QUOTE="DonPerian"]

Personally, I wouldn't call it an innovation. However, it does drastically innovate the customization in a game that is not soley based on modding (e.g Gary's Mod.)

IF TRUE, I guess this was the customization they were talking about...

smokeydabear076

[QUOTE="smokeydabear076"][QUOTE="wolverine4262"][QUOTE="foxhound_fox"][QUOTE="DonPerian"]

Personally, I wouldn't call it an innovation. However, it does drastically innovate the customization in a game that is not soley based on modding (e.g Gary's Mod.)

IF TRUE, I guess this was the customization they were talking about...

FrozenLiquid

True I guess. I mean, are they trying to implent just 2 player co-op online, or the whole 4 player shebang? Hmm....

I'm guessing what's happening in the campaign is just so much that it's hard to keep the netcode running smooth. I guess it was easy on Gears because there was next to nothing happening on screen.

Hey smokey, do you know if I need anything other thing to use my 360 wireless controller on my PC? Does it need a wireless receiver or something?

[QUOTE="smokeydabear076"][QUOTE="wolverine4262"][QUOTE="foxhound_fox"][QUOTE="DonPerian"]

Personally, I wouldn't call it an innovation. However, it does drastically innovate the customization in a game that is not soley based on modding (e.g Gary's Mod.)

IF TRUE, I guess this was the customization they were talking about...

FrozenLiquid

True I guess. I mean, are they trying to implent just 2 player co-op online, or the whole 4 player shebang? Hmm....

I'm guessing what's happening in the campaign is just so much that it's hard to keep the netcode running smooth. I guess it was easy on Gears because there was next to nothing happening on screen.

Hey smokey, do you know if I need anything other thing to use my 360 wireless controller on my PC? Does it need a wireless receiver or something?

You know what would be really cool?

If we had both!

=)

*Thinks of scenarios*

Who wants to play dodge the rain of tanks? :lol:

Get everyone on the tank and have the moniter float him into the base!

The flag guy needs an escape route? Forget the man-cannon. Platform that hero out of the enemy base!

It's infection mode! We need more barricades over.

RTS mode with a CS twist! Make the game round-based and have the moniters keeps track of money. When a team wins a round, they get more money! (It would require a little paper and outside work to make it work though)

The enemies are on top of their base? Moniter, I'll need a few fusion cores please.

IF this Forge mode works out, Halo 3 could make a great game!

[QUOTE="smokeydabear076"][QUOTE="wolverine4262"][QUOTE="foxhound_fox"][QUOTE="DonPerian"]

Personally, I wouldn't call it an innovation. However, it does drastically innovate the customization in a game that is not soley based on modding (e.g Gary's Mod.)

IF TRUE, I guess this was the customization they were talking about...

wolverine4262

*Thinks of scenarios*

Who wants to play dodge the rain of tanks? :lol:

Get everyone on the tank and have the moniter float him into the base!

The flag guy needs an escape route? Forget the man-cannon. Platform that hero out of the enemy base!

It's infection mode! We need more barricades over.

RTS mode with a CS twist! Make the game round-based and have the moniters keeps track of money. When a team wins a round, they get more money! (It would require a little paper and outside work to make it work though)

The enemies are on top of their base? Moniter, I'll need a few fusion cores please.

IF this Forge mode works out, Halo 3 could make a great game!

D00nut

Here's hoping it's true. :)

I don't know about endless, but there's a damn lot of possibilities. dodge the beams of spartan lasers. It'll be like a laser rock show....of death!

PS - Fear before is awesome. =)

Yeah you need some accessory. I think this is the one.smokeydabear076

yay thats it... what do you want to do with the 360 controller on the pc?

[QUOTE="D00nut"]

*Thinks of scenarios*

Who wants to play dodge the rain of tanks? :lol:

Get everyone on the tank and have the moniter float him into the base!

The flag guy needs an escape route? Forget the man-cannon. Platform that hero out of the enemy base!

It's infection mode! We need more barricades over.

RTS mode with a CS twist! Make the game round-based and have the moniters keeps track of money. When a team wins a round, they get more money! (It would require a little paper and outside work to make it work though)

The enemies are on top of their base? Moniter, I'll need a few fusion cores please.

IF this Forge mode works out, Halo 3 could make a great game!

DonPerian

Here's hoping it's true. :)

I don't know about endless, but there's a damn lot of possibilities. dodge the beams of spartan lasers. It'll be like a laser rock show....of death!

PS - Fear before is awesome. =)

And yes Fear Before is awesome! I like a lot of the bands in your sig as well. But some of them...not so much lol.

Didn't they say something about it being a gameplay issue too? At some times in the game your friends would be a mile away or something? I think that is a lame excuse if they said that. smokeydabear076

[QUOTE="FrozenLiquid"]All three Timesplitters didn't have map editors like this.

Oh, and it almost sounded like you discriminated the whole Halo trilogy, including Halo CE for forever being behind the times.foxhound_fox

Ok. Well, when I replayed all the FPSs that came before Halo (because Halo was the one that got me into FPS. Other's just didn't do it for me. Felt like a fool after replaying them after Halo), that game did feel different from other PC FPS.

The whole full scale war thing with allies (Yeah, it was first done in Bungie's Marathon, but most games took the "One man army route", even Half Life with the Opposing Force expansion didn't feel too allyish) which you see done again with Call of Duty. The flexible two weapon system which was either pre-determined before the actual map insertion or just carry-every-weapon-and-pick-your-fav, and it actually made vehicles work in single player without feeling tacked on (except the Maw felt a little iffy).

But yeah, I would agree for the most part Halo has taken the best of FPSs and spun it into an exceptional package.

[QUOTE="smokeydabear076"]
Didn't they say something about it being a gameplay issue too? At some times in the game your friends would be a mile away or something? I think that is a lame excuse if they said that. wolverine4262

"Yo Felix1953, where are you?"

"On Halo right now. You?"

"Dang. Still in Africa"

"Come on man, you're slowing us down!"

[QUOTE="wolverine4262"][QUOTE="smokeydabear076"]
Didn't they say something about it being a gameplay issue too? At some times in the game your friends would be a mile away or something? I think that is a lame excuse if they said that. FrozenLiquid

"Yo Felix1953, where are you?"

"On Halo right now. You?"

"Dang. Still in Africa"

"Come on man, you're slowing us down!"

[QUOTE="DonPerian"][QUOTE="D00nut"]

*Thinks of scenarios*

Who wants to play dodge the rain of tanks? :lol:

Get everyone on the tank and have the moniter float him into the base!

The flag guy needs an escape route? Forget the man-cannon. Platform that hero out of the enemy base!

It's infection mode! We need more barricades over.

RTS mode with a CS twist! Make the game round-based and have the moniters keeps track of money. When a team wins a round, they get more money! (It would require a little paper and outside work to make it work though)

The enemies are on top of their base? Moniter, I'll need a few fusion cores please.

IF this Forge mode works out, Halo 3 could make a great game!

D00nut

Here's hoping it's true. :)

I don't know about endless, but there's a damn lot of possibilities. dodge the beams of spartan lasers. It'll be like a laser rock show....of death!

PS - Fear before is awesome. =)

And yes Fear Before is awesome! I like a lot of the bands in your sig as well. But some of them...not so much lol.

Let's keep our fingers crossed for this one. Really tight.

This and online coop. Whether it's 2 or 4, I don't care. But I have my faith in Bungie, they'll amaze e one way or the other.

Haha, I can imagine. Some bands I threw in there for fun, it's pretty easy to spot them out. Not that I don't listen to them at all, but def. not my favorites. I did, however, exclude a couple key bands on purpose. *cough*chiodos*cough*saosin*cough*circa survive*cough*

=)

[QUOTE="FrozenLiquid"]

[QUOTE="wolverine4262"][QUOTE="smokeydabear076"]
Didn't they say something about it being a gameplay issue too? At some times in the game your friends would be a mile away or something? I think that is a lame excuse if they said that. wolverine4262

"Yo Felix1953, where are you?"

"On Halo right now. You?"

"Dang. Still in Africa"

"Come on man, you're slowing us down!"

Mancannon, of course.

[QUOTE="smokeydabear076"]
Didn't they say something about it being a gameplay issue too? At some times in the game your friends would be a mile away or something? I think that is a lame excuse if they said that. wolverine4262

[QUOTE="D00nut"][QUOTE="DonPerian"][QUOTE="D00nut"]

*Thinks of scenarios*

Who wants to play dodge the rain of tanks? :lol:

Get everyone on the tank and have the moniter float him into the base!

The flag guy needs an escape route? Forget the man-cannon. Platform that hero out of the enemy base!

It's infection mode! We need more barricades over.

RTS mode with a CS twist! Make the game round-based and have the moniters keeps track of money. When a team wins a round, they get more money! (It would require a little paper and outside work to make it work though)

The enemies are on top of their base? Moniter, I'll need a few fusion cores please.

IF this Forge mode works out, Halo 3 could make a great game!

DonPerian

Here's hoping it's true. :)

I don't know about endless, but there's a damn lot of possibilities. dodge the beams of spartan lasers. It'll be like a laser rock show....of death!

PS - Fear before is awesome. =)

And yes Fear Before is awesome! I like a lot of the bands in your sig as well. But some of them...not so much lol.

Let's keep our fingers crossed for this one. Really tight.

This and online coop. Whether it's 2 or 4, I don't care. But I have my faith in Bungie, they'll amaze e one way or the other.

Haha, I can imagine. Some bands I threw in there for fun, it's pretty easy to spot them out. Not that I don't listen to them at all, but def. not my favorites. I did, however, exclude a couple key bands on purpose. *cough*chiodos*cough*saosin*cough*circa survive*cough*

=)

Yay for Circa Survive! Chiodos I kind of grew out of, but they don't do anything too bad. I think the reason why I stopped listening to them was when everyone and their sister started. It's a bad habit of mine. :P

[QUOTE="wolverine4262"][QUOTE="FrozenLiquid"]

[QUOTE="wolverine4262"][QUOTE="smokeydabear076"]
Didn't they say something about it being a gameplay issue too? At some times in the game your friends would be a mile away or something? I think that is a lame excuse if they said that. FrozenLiquid

"Yo Felix1953, where are you?"

"On Halo right now. You?"

"Dang. Still in Africa"

"Come on man, you're slowing us down!"

Mancannon, of course.

[QUOTE="wolverine4262"][QUOTE="smokeydabear076"]
Didn't they say something about it being a gameplay issue too? At some times in the game your friends would be a mile away or something? I think that is a lame excuse if they said that. smokeydabear076

[QUOTE="smokeydabear076"][QUOTE="wolverine4262"][QUOTE="smokeydabear076"]
Didn't they say something about it being a gameplay issue too? At some times in the game your friends would be a mile away or something? I think that is a lame excuse if they said that. wolverine4262

If real, sounds like the ultimate online experience on Live. Being able to edit the map while people are playing? Genius.cheezisgoooood

They could have checkpoints or something like they did in Halo CE.smokeydabear076

So they are basically making matches much more customizable? I like the idea, it is a great addition to the already fantastic amount of control you have in making a Halo online match. Though the lack of creating maps from scratch (Far Cry did it, why can't halo?) really still hurts.Wasdie

Did people create good maps in Far Cry?

So they are basically making matches much more customizable? I like the idea, it is a great addition to the already fantastic amount of control you have in making a Halo online match. Though the lack of creating maps from scratch (Far Cry did it, why can't halo?) really still hurts.Wasdie

[QUOTE="Wasdie"]So they are basically making matches much more customizable? I like the idea, it is a great addition to the already fantastic amount of control you have in making a Halo online match. Though the lack of creating maps from scratch (Far Cry did it, why can't halo?) really still hurts.FrozenLiquid

Did people create good maps in Far Cry?

So they are basically making matches much more customizable? I like the idea, it is a great addition to the already fantastic amount of control you have in making a Halo online match. Though the lack of creating maps from scratch (Far Cry did it, why can't halo?) really still hurts.Wasdie

[QUOTE="smokeydabear076"]They could have checkpoints or something like they did in Halo CE.wolverine4262

[QUOTE="Wasdie"]So they are basically making matches much more customizable? I like the idea, it is a great addition to the already fantastic amount of control you have in making a Halo online match. Though the lack of creating maps from scratch (Far Cry did it, why can't halo?) really still hurts.FrozenLiquid

Did people create good maps in Far Cry?

they were okay....problem was all the maps were basiclly the same because you couldnt import stuff...It was good for a console editor....but could compare to the sandbox editor in PC Farcry.

[QUOTE="Wasdie"]So they are basically making matches much more customizable? I like the idea, it is a great addition to the already fantastic amount of control you have in making a Halo online match. Though the lack of creating maps from scratch (Far Cry did it, why can't halo?) really still hurts.smokeydabear076

Think of this:

Juggernaut game where the Juggernaut has a Gravity Hammer.

Moniter protects others by spawning objects in his way, which the J can simply blast out of the way with the physics-altering Gravity Hammer.

The possibilities are nigh endless.:D

[QUOTE="Wasdie"]So they are basically making matches much more customizable? I like the idea, it is a great addition to the already fantastic amount of control you have in making a Halo online match. Though the lack of creating maps from scratch (Far Cry did it, why can't halo?) really still hurts.smokeydabear076

We would need a ouse and keyboard cuz there is simply too many controls involved in creating a map. That said, I don't see why Bungie and MS can't implement some mouse/keyboard support for the game, even if it is strictly for map editing...

Yeah that sounds more like a really stripped down level editor. You're not even making levels you're just positioning units and stuff. Interesting but not that big of a deal. Well I guess it will be for console fans...... but I mean Timesplitters has had level editors.Lazy_Boy88

Yeah that sounds more like a really stripped down level editor. You're not even making levels you're just positioning units and stuff. Interesting but not that big of a deal. Well I guess it will be for console fans...... but I mean Timesplitters has had level editors.Lazy_Boy88

Not where multiple people can phase into and out of the same map while editing it over XBL. C'mon, this is miles beyond Timesplitters in the interactity regard.

[QUOTE="smokeydabear076"][QUOTE="Wasdie"]So they are basically making matches much more customizable? I like the idea, it is a great addition to the already fantastic amount of control you have in making a Halo online match. Though the lack of creating maps from scratch (Far Cry did it, why can't halo?) really still hurts.wolverine4262

Just a reminder: This feature has not been confirmed but is likely to be in the final game. Refer to the link I posted in the original thread from Bungie.net's forums to hear what the latest news is about the feature.

Thanks. :D

We would need a ouse and keyboard cuz there is simply too many controls involved in creating a map. That said, I don't see why Bungie and MS can't implement some mouse/keyboard support for the game, even if it is strictly for map editing...

DonPerian

[QUOTE="smokeydabear076"][QUOTE="Wasdie"]So they are basically making matches much more customizable? I like the idea, it is a great addition to the already fantastic amount of control you have in making a Halo online match. Though the lack of creating maps from scratch (Far Cry did it, why can't halo?) really still hurts.DonPerian

We would need a ouse and keyboard cuz there is simply too many controls involved in creating a map. That said, I don't see why Bungie and MS can't implement some mouse/keyboard support for the game, even if it is strictly for map editing...

Has anyone ever noticed that when a game has a really good feature going for it, the thread is almost filled with supporters because no one really can complain? And when there's a negative thread going for a game, there's usually just bashers?

This is one of those threads.

[QUOTE="wolverine4262"][QUOTE="smokeydabear076"][QUOTE="Wasdie"]So they are basically making matches much more customizable? I like the idea, it is a great addition to the already fantastic amount of control you have in making a Halo online match. Though the lack of creating maps from scratch (Far Cry did it, why can't halo?) really still hurts.smokeydabear076

Just a reminder: This feature has not been confirmed but is likely to be in the final game. Refer to the link I posted in the original thread from Bungie.net's forums to hear what the latest news is about the feature.

Thanks. :D

DonPerian

It has been confirmed.

My thread with leaked info from next months EGM.

Has anyone ever noticed that when a game has a really good feature going for it, the thread is almost filled with supporters because no one really can complain? And when there's a negative thread going for a game, there's usually just bashers?

This is one of those threads.

FrozenLiquid

[QUOTE="DonPerian"]

[QUOTE="smokeydabear076"][QUOTE="Wasdie"]So they are basically making matches much more customizable? I like the idea, it is a great addition to the already fantastic amount of control you have in making a Halo online match. Though the lack of creating maps from scratch (Far Cry did it, why can't halo?) really still hurts.smokeydabear076

We would need a ouse and keyboard cuz there is simply too many controls involved in creating a map. That said, I don't see why Bungie and MS can't implement some mouse/keyboard support for the game, even if it is strictly for map editing...

map editors are fairly hardware intesive.....not a lot of people will be able to run it....

besides how would you ever test/debug the map?

[QUOTE="smokeydabear076"][QUOTE="wolverine4262"][QUOTE="smokeydabear076"][QUOTE="Wasdie"]So they are basically making matches much more customizable? I like the idea, it is a great addition to the already fantastic amount of control you have in making a Halo online match. Though the lack of creating maps from scratch (Far Cry did it, why can't halo?) really still hurts.wolverine4262

Anyway Im out.

Has anyone ever noticed that when a game has a really good feature going for it, the thread is almost filled with supporters because no one really can complain? And when there's a negative thread going for a game, there's usually just bashers?

This is one of those threads.

FrozenLiquid

map editors are fairly hardware intesive.....not a lot of people will be able to run it....

besides how would you ever test/debug the map?

cobrax75

Then again, who would make good maps?

5% of the users?

[QUOTE="smokeydabear076"][QUOTE="DonPerian"]

[QUOTE="smokeydabear076"][QUOTE="Wasdie"]So they are basically making matches much more customizable? I like the idea, it is a great addition to the already fantastic amount of control you have in making a Halo online match. Though the lack of creating maps from scratch (Far Cry did it, why can't halo?) really still hurts.cobrax75

We would need a ouse and keyboard cuz there is simply too many controls involved in creating a map. That said, I don't see why Bungie and MS can't implement some mouse/keyboard support for the game, even if it is strictly for map editing...

map editors are fairly hardware intesive.....not a lot of people will be able to run it....

besides how would you ever test/debug the map?