More proof that Windows 7 isn't worth it

, Lil Wayne has even bashed Microsoft and Windows Vista in one of his latest songs. The lyrics are: "I leave the pu**y Microsoft like Windows Vista." Skip to 3:14 to hear it for yourself - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3op9t0aBvg

ispyamoose

Man.. Rap really really sucks now.

I'm under the impression that the software library is great and that Snow Leapord is a great OS, but I don't know for sure because I haven't used a Mac before. That's why I'm interested in trying it out.TheDuffman26

And with that said, Windows 7's performance is one hell of a lot better than vistas and is even better than XP's.

PSGamerforlife

[QUOTE="donalbane"][QUOTE="Tjeremiah1988"]Windows 7 blows Vista out of the water and XP. I am judging this base on my use of it. PSGamerforlife

Dude, there are 2 goals the MS achieved with windows 7:

-For windows 7 to be fully compatible with applications and hardware with which Windows Vista and XP are already compatible with

-To focus on performance improvements.."the company was using a variety of new tracing tools to measure the performance of many areas of the operating system on an ongoing basis, to help locate inefficient code paths and to help prevent performance regressions"

And with that said, Windows 7's performance is one hell of a lot better than vistas and is even better than XP's.

Windows 7 performs better than XP and has more features than vista.

Win7 to Vista is what XP was to windows2000/millenium.

Its the best Windows MS has ever produced. Plus, it has DX11 support.

[QUOTE="PSGamerforlife"]

[QUOTE="donalbane"] Can you be more specific... I'm on the fence about getting it. I worry that some of my games won't run anymore as they aren't '7 compatible'... crap like that. Any trouble with games etc.? What do you like about it so much.Makari

Dude, there are 2 goals the MS achieved with windows 7:

-For windows 7 to be fully compatible with applications and hardware with which Windows Vista and XP are already compatible with

-To focus on performance improvements.."the company was using a variety of new tracing tools to measure the performance of many areas of the operating system on an ongoing basis, to help locate inefficient code paths and to help prevent performance regressions"

And with that said, Windows 7's performance is one hell of a lot better than vistas and is even better than XP's.

Windows 7 performs better than XP and has more features than vista.

Win7 to Vista is what XP was to windows2000/millenium.

Its the best Windows MS has ever produced. Plus, it has DX11 support.

I'm almost positive that they tweaked the menu response delay time for Windows 7.

http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/67220-menu-show-delay-time.html

i've used all 3 OS's to know that windows 7 is definitely worth it. and with it supporting dx11, it's also worth it to gamers.themagicbum9720

Which Vista already support... why do people associate Dx11 with Win7 ?????

So its another fail like vista? Well am fine with the xp, after that pc was full of fails and even nowadays pc is full of fail.....what? The developers dont support the pc, many bad ports with poor optimazation and they remove dedicated servers and moding capabilities. MS does not support pc gaming with their crappy OS and no pc games form their publiching side.... you might as well buy yourself a console.

So its another fail like vista? Well am fine with the xp, after that pc was full of fails and even nowadays pc is full of fail.....what? The developers dont support the pc, many bad ports with poor optimazation and they remove dedicated servers and moding capabilities. MS does not support pc gaming with their crappy OS and no pc games form their publiching side.... you might as well buy yourself a console.

dakan45

I'm actually looking into getting a console for Christmas this year.

Fist of all, Lil Wayne is ust some random wannabe ganster that talks in a microphone to a computerized beat and mindless, simple people call it music

Secondly, Windows 7 wasnt made solely for gaming...

[QUOTE="RedruM_I"]Linux FTW! I stay away from Windows as I would from the ebola virus. :)ispyamoose

[QUOTE="ispyamoose"][QUOTE="RedruM_I"]Linux FTW! I stay away from Windows as I would from the ebola virus. :)Tjeremiah1988

linux it just way better. its free and runs on anything pretty much. i use ubuntu 9.10 and it just so much faster. the user interface is way better to . win 7 is just vista thats made a bit faster vista seveice pack 3

for gaming maybe but i know i use my computer for a lot of other things and i played it safe and skipped vista and stayed with my xp, but i will be getting windows 7 now cause students can it for $30.

People are acting like it;'s 80s again :(. Why cares about OS? Today OS has only one true purpose: to dissapear as fast as possible when you run your apps. That's what OSes are about today: portal to launching apps. And Windows just happens to have far better selection of those apps than OSX and Linux. Even if you get a mac (I wouldn't, but for design reasons) it's propably best to forget about elitism and go Windows on it

http://www.anandtech.com/systems/showdoc.aspx?i=3666&p=1

To get to the benchmarks, just scroll down and click on the "Article Index" dropdown.

The benchmarks tell the story of why Windows 7 is a waste, at least at this point in time. It's just a shame that Microsoft could not have improved on Vista, because Vista either outperforms (or is on par with) Windows 7 on most of the benchmarks. All Windows 7 is is a piece of hype (place whatever word you choose in place of hype).

And just for laughs, Lil Wayne has even bashed Microsoft and Windows Vista in one of his latest songs. The lyrics are: "I leave the pu**y Microsoft like Windows Vista." Skip to 3:14 to hear it for yourself - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3op9t0aBvg

http://www.anandtech.com/systems/showdoc.aspx?i=3666&p=1

To get to the benchmarks, just scroll down and click on the "Article Index" dropdown.

The benchmarks tell the story of why Windows 7 is a waste, at least at this point in time. It's just a shame that Microsoft could not have improved on Vista, because Vista either outperforms (or is on par with) Windows 7 on most of the benchmarks. All Windows 7 is is a piece of hype (place whatever word you choose in place of hype).

And just for laughs, Lil Wayne has even bashed Microsoft and Windows Vista in one of his latest songs. The lyrics are: "I leave the pu**y Microsoft like Windows Vista." Skip to 3:14 to hear it for yourself - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3op9t0aBvg

[QUOTE="ispyamoose"]

http://www.anandtech.com/systems/showdoc.aspx?i=3666&p=1

To get to the benchmarks, just scroll down and click on the "Article Index" dropdown.

The benchmarks tell the story of why Windows 7 is a waste, at least at this point in time. It's just a shame that Microsoft could not have improved on Vista, because Vista either outperforms (or is on par with) Windows 7 on most of the benchmarks. All Windows 7 is is a piece of hype (place whatever word you choose in place of hype).

And just for laughs, Lil Wayne has even bashed Microsoft and Windows Vista in one of his latest songs. The lyrics are: "I leave the pu**y Microsoft like Windows Vista." Skip to 3:14 to hear it for yourself - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3op9t0aBvg

Phazevariance

Show us where it's faster then Vista in games... please, show us.

linux it just way better. its free and runs on anything pretty much. i use ubuntu 9.10 and it just so much faster. the user interface is way better to . win 7 is just vista thats made a bit faster vista seveice pack 3

dontshackzmii

XP+iTunes+3.2GHz penium x4 with 4GB RAM and 1 TB HDD=EPIC WIN or better than anything else

XP+iTunes+3.2GHz penium x4 with 4GB RAM and 1 TB HDD=EPIC WIN or better than anything else

bigM10231

[QUOTE="dakan45"]

So its another fail like vista? Well am fine with the xp, after that pc was full of fails and even nowadays pc is full of fail.....what? The developers dont support the pc, many bad ports with poor optimazation and they remove dedicated servers and moding capabilities. MS does not support pc gaming with their crappy OS and no pc games form their publiching side.... you might as well buy yourself a console.

Bebi_vegeta

I think your post if full of fail...

You don't even know what is Win7 or Vista... never mind the rest of your post.

[QUOTE="dontshackzmii"]

linux it just way better. its free and runs on anything pretty much. i use ubuntu 9.10 and it just so much faster. the user interface is way better to . win 7 is just vista thats made a bit faster vista seveice pack 3

dc337

You should educate yourself before you post on a topic you know little about.

Both iTunes and Office work on Linux. Even if they didn't there are free/open alternatives.

Linux is an excellent "browsing OS", you don't have to worry about viruses and spy/gray/walware.

The issue you bring up is a Flash/graphics driver issue which is already resolved. I am posting from Mandriva Linux on a 9800m GS where full screen Flash works perfectly.

I don't believe that Windows 7 will ever rival XP on memory usage (either RAM or hard drive space). That is simply because Windows Vista/7 utilize different technologies than XP ever did/will. Apparently Microsoft seems to think that users like 50+ processes running at any given moment. Since most users may not be too technically savvy, I doubt that many of those people have ever heard of the services portion of Administrative tools or even msconfig.ispyamoose

Except that extra consumed memory means that programs launch faster with Superfetch enabled. Memory is there TO BE USED, it shouldn't sit there unoccupied if it can be used to improve performance.

Windows 7 isn't bloated. It just uses system resources effectively. Don't have as much memory on your system? Then Windows 7 will adjust accordingly and use fewer resources. On my system with 6GB of RAM it idles at ~1.25GB RAM consumed....and yet it will scale down and run well on a system with a mere 512MB of RAM.

Quit acting like you know what you're talking about.

"The benchmarks tell the story of why Windows 7 is a waste"

If you base your OS buying decsions on benchmarks then you don't know what the hell you are doing.

[QUOTE="bigM10231"]

XP+iTunes+3.2GHz penium x4 with 4GB RAM and 1 TB HDD=EPIC WIN or better than anything else

ispyamoose

[QUOTE="ispyamoose"]I don't believe that Windows 7 will ever rival XP on memory usage (either RAM or hard drive space). That is simply because Windows Vista/7 utilize different technologies than XP ever did/will. Apparently Microsoft seems to think that users like 50+ processes running at any given moment. Since most users may not be too technically savvy, I doubt that many of those people have ever heard of the services portion of Administrative tools or even msconfig.Velocitas8

Except that extra consumed memory means that programs launch faster with Superfetch enabled. Memory is there TO BE USED, it shouldn't sit there unoccupied if it can be used to improve performance.

Windows 7 isn't bloated. It just uses system resources effectively. Don't have as much memory on your system? Then Windows 7 will adjust accordingly and use fewer resources. On my system with 6GB of RAM it idles at ~1.25GB RAM consumed....and yet it will scale down and run well on a system with a mere 512MB of RAM.

Quit acting like you know what you're talking about.

I already know about SuperFetch. And 512MB of RAM? What is this... the year 2002? And does SuperFetch have anything to do with the number of processes running? No. Try to prove what your 1.25GB of RAM consumed is being used for, and whether or not it's worth it.

[QUOTE="ispyamoose"][QUOTE="bigM10231"]

XP+iTunes+3.2GHz penium x4 with 4GB RAM and 1 TB HDD=EPIC WIN or better than anything else

SpruceCaboose

"The benchmarks tell the story of why Windows 7 is a waste"

If you base your OS buying decsions on benchmarks then you don't know what the hell you are doing.

heretrix

You'd be a fool to go buy a new product when you know nothing about it. And you missed the other part of the text that you quoted.

I already know about SuperFetch. And 512MB of RAM? What is this... the year 2002?ispyamoose

Good god you're dense.

And does SuperFetch have anything to do with the number of processes running? No. Try to prove what your 1.25GB of RAM consumed is being used for, and whether or not it's worth it.ispyamoose

What does "number of process running" have to do with anything? If Windows 7 is so taxing on your hardware with all of these process running (as I would assume you're ignorantly implying), then why do I idle at 0% CPU usage?

And I already know what that "1.25GB" is being used for. It's being used for services like Superfetch. How do I know? Because if I disable Superfetch, my memory consumption drops dramatically. Doing that drops performance, so why would I want to disable it?

[QUOTE="ispyamoose"]I already know about SuperFetch. And 512MB of RAM? What is this... the year 2002?Velocitas8

Good god you're dense.

And does SuperFetch have anything to do with the number of processes running? No. Try to prove what your 1.25GB of RAM consumed is being used for, and whether or not it's worth it.ispyamoose

What does "number of process running" have to do with anything? If Windows 7 is so taxing on your hardware with all of these process running (as I would assume you're ignorantly implying), then why do I idle at 0% CPU usage?

And I already know what that "1.25GB" is being used for. It's being used for services like Superfetch. How do I know? Because if I disable Superfetch, my memory consumption drops dramatically. Doing that drops performance, so why would I want to disable it?

[QUOTE="heretrix"]

"The benchmarks tell the story of why Windows 7 is a waste"

If you base your OS buying decsions on benchmarks then you don't know what the hell you are doing.

ispyamoose

You'd be a fool to go buy a new product when you know nothing about it. And you missed the other part of the text that you quoted.

[QUOTE="ispyamoose"]

[QUOTE="heretrix"]

"The benchmarks tell the story of why Windows 7 is a waste"

If you base your OS buying decsions on benchmarks then you don't know what the hell you are doing.

heretrix

You'd be a fool to go buy a new product when you know nothing about it. And you missed the other part of the text that you quoted.

Benchmarks are more important for some people than others. The game benchmarks are probably looked at the most, and Windows 7 doesn't really show much of an advantage over Vista or XP right now. Features of an OS is another important aspect, but from what I can tell, Windows 7 doesn't add too many new features. You don't even get Windows XP mode, full system backup, language support, or Domain Join unless you buy a higher end version.

Can you rearrange the order of the open programs on the task bar, in the same way you can arrange the order or the tabs in a web browser say?

[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

[QUOTE="dakan45"]

So its another fail like vista? Well am fine with the xp, after that pc was full of fails and even nowadays pc is full of fail.....what? The developers dont support the pc, many bad ports with poor optimazation and they remove dedicated servers and moding capabilities. MS does not support pc gaming with their crappy OS and no pc games form their publiching side.... you might as well buy yourself a console.

dakan45

I think your post if full of fail...

You don't even know what is Win7 or Vista... never mind the rest of your post.

Vista is worst then XP, well not in the gaming departement sir.

MS does not publish PC games at all... Maybe I should care?

All games are 90%? Where do you get this data?

PC is in no way, failling...

Your a fanboy, hence you fail.

Eh? I heard the exact opposite about the Windows 7 beta. Many people said it was much faster than Vista.