Most annoying JRPG cliche

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Bioware fanboy much TC?

Bioware games are far more cliche and unoriginal than JRPGS

orcs and trolls orcs and trolls

elves and dwarfes

is there one famous WRPG villan or character besdies maybe diablo and baal?

thats what i thought

texasgoldrush

they are no where near as famous as cloud or sephiroth

[QUOTE="texasgoldrush"][QUOTE="Ultizer"]

Bioware fanboy much TC?

Bioware games are far more cliche and unoriginal than JRPGS

orcs and trolls orcs and trolls

elves and dwarfes

is there one famous WRPG villan or character besdies maybe diablo and baal?

thats what i thought

Ultizer

they are no where near as famous as cloud or sephiroth

popular =/= better

[QUOTE="Ultizer"]

[QUOTE="texasgoldrush"] jon irenicus, saren, darth malak....texasgoldrush

they are no where near as famous as cloud or sephiroth

popular =/= better

So did sepiroth.I mean FF7 had a dumb story after they left midgar but sephiroth has a motive.

[QUOTE="texasgoldrush"]

[QUOTE="Ultizer"]

they are no where near as famous as cloud or sephiroth

popular =/= better

So did sepiroth.I mean FF7 had a dumb story after they left midgar but sephiroth has a motive.

Come to think of it, Suikoden II seems like it was written by a child.

hakanakumono

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[QUOTE="jasonharris48"] I guess lol...off topic how every time Texas brings up Suikoden 2 it sounds like a somewhat better version of Naruto? (Which isn't saying much because Naruto is awful). Now I can't say S2 is bad because I haven't played it. (it is way to damn expensive). But the way he describes it doesn't tempt me to giving it a try.

texasgoldrush

It's not worth paying upwards of $100. I felt it was a fairly mediocre JRPG. It didn't excel in terms of story, gameplay, or graphics. I bought it expecting it to be really something special, but I found it to be more of a chore. I felt the same way about II that I did about IV. Imo, III and V are both better games with more to offer. Even though V can be fairly generic (and has a legitimately wtf androgynous male lead).

If you're curious you might as well just watch videos on youtube of the storyline.

[QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

Come to think of it, Suikoden II seems like it was written by a child.

texasgoldrush

Lol ok.

[QUOTE="texasgoldrush"][QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

It's not worth paying upwards of $100. I felt it was a fairly mediocre JRPG. It didn't excel in terms of story, gameplay, or graphics. I bought it expecting it to be really something special, but I found it to be more of a chore. I felt the same way about II that I did about IV. Imo, III and V are both better games with more to offer. Even though V can be fairly generic (and has a legitimately wtf androgynous male lead).

If you're curious you might as well just watch videos on youtube of the storyline.

[QUOTE="texasgoldrush"][QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

Come to think of it, Suikoden II seems like it was written by a child.

hakanakumono

Lol ok.

Oh and to explain Jowy's turn further...he is clearly conflicted before he murders Anabelle, even muttering to himself, wonderingif he is taking the right path.

[QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

[QUOTE="texasgoldrush"] Its far better directed than Xenogears thats for sure...texasgoldrush

Lol ok.

Kinda like Suikogaiden, huh?

All the cliches have been said already, but I really wish there were more female lead characters that arent just there to flaunt it.

[QUOTE="texasgoldrush"][QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

Lol ok.

Kinda like Suikogaiden, huh?

[QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

[QUOTE="texasgoldrush"] A game that has supplamental materials available to explain the story means that the direction wasn't good enough.texasgoldrush

Kinda like Suikogaiden, huh?

Which is not supplemental material? Lol you just told me that in order to understand Joey's character change I had to play "Suikoden Outside Story."

It's not necessary to read Perfect Works to understand Xenogears. It just explains what you should already be able to gather, and expands on that withmiscellaneousinformation.

[QUOTE="texasgoldrush"][QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

Kinda like Suikogaiden, huh?

hakanakumono

Which is not supplemental material? Lol you just told me that in order to understand Joey's character change I had to play "Suikoden Outside Story."

It's not necessary to read Perfect Works to understand Xenogears. It just explains what you should already be able to gather, and expands on that withmiscellaneousinformation.

Suikogaiden shows Luca Blight abusing his half sister Jillia Blight even more....if he didn't abuse her enough already throught the regular game. it shows the Battle of Greenhill, which was only shown in flashbacks in the game, but nothing really new is learned here. It has a battle between Nash and Culgan/Seed, in which Nash poisions Seed but Culgan saves him. The pair already had a strong friendship, so its doesn't really add anything. It has several ancedotes with Wakaba and several other stars. And it recreates the famous castle wall scene. But its Nash's own story, not really SII from a different angle.

Other: All of them.

girls that look like guys

[QUOTE="texasgoldrush"][QUOTE="Ultizer"]

Bioware fanboy much TC?

Bioware games are far more cliche and unoriginal than JRPGS

orcs and trolls orcs and trolls

elves and dwarfes

is there one famous WRPG villan or character besdies maybe diablo and baal?

thats what i thought

Ultizer

they are no where near as famous as cloud or sephiroth

Yeah that's right, seems properly developing your characters means they will never catch on.

Cliched characters are usually the thing that ticks me off. I don't know why there is an abundance of whiny emo kids in a lot of Japanese media.

i love jrpgs and their stories but one thing i hate is amnesia, whenever a protagonist is having amnesia about his past i yawn...

Not exactly a 'cliche' but when you get new, kick-butt armor, it would be nice if you can actually see the armor when you equip it. Sure you get better stats, or whatnot, but you're still running around in what ever form of pajamas you where wearing when mommy woke you up to solve any possible number of calamities about to befall the village. *I'm looking at you Tales of Vesperia. Don't think that I didn't notice you trying to slink out of my tree house. I've got a 9 foot long sword that shoots bubbles and marshmallows, and I'm not afraid to use it.

The "hidden" power. The main character ends up being some special breed of being with ultimate powers.

The "hidden" power. The main character ends up being some special breed of being with ultimate powers.

yokofox33

Nothing proves this better than Sands of Destruction. :lol:

Its kind of funny that all these cliches can apply to WRPG'S as well

The fact that most characters are teenagers in an epidemic fight against Satan and his apocalyptic doom.

Second would probably be their outfits and hairstyles. Nobody wears clothes like that in real life as a norm.

i love jrpgs and their stories but one thing i hate is amnesia, whenever a protagonist is having amnesia about his past i yawn...

skanjos

Orphans!

The quiet special one.

Very standard and very common.

the horrible steriotypical characters, with less depth then a peace of paper -.-

Ofcourse that is not just limited to Jrpgs, but it is reached the point there, that Ive begun to wonder if it is some kind of insider joke...

Its kind of funny that all these cliches can apply to WRPG'S as well

Jesus_on_fire

The term cliche kind of aludes to that ... Cliches are genre defining. Would it be a JRPG withough JRPG cliches? Look at Demons Souls and how people argued over what that was.

On topic - The character design. I dislike anime designs, they look ridiculous imo. The characters themselves, I dislike the JRPG cliche characters.

Honestly,I don't mind the story being about saving the world from some evil bad guy. as long as he has a motice that isnt just "grrr i hate things" and as long as i dont have to be some 14 year old boy. WRPG's have it right here imo. It just makes more sense if say a group of jedi can save the galaxy.

Theme of friendship. Yuck. Pedo friendly female characters pretty much disgust me in every medium

[QUOTE="Jesus_on_fire"]

Its kind of funny that all these cliches can apply to WRPG'S as well

The term cliche kind of aludes to that ... Cliches are genre defining. Would it be a JRPG withough JRPG cliches? Look at Demons Souls and how people argued over what that was.

On topic - The character design. I dislike anime designs, they look ridiculous imo. The characters themselves, I dislike the JRPG cliche characters.

Honestly,I don't mind the story being about saving the world from some evil bad guy. as long as he has a motice that isnt just "grrr i hate things" and as long as i dont have to be some 14 year old boy. WRPG's have it right here imo. It just makes more sense if say a group of jedi can save the galaxy.

Theme of friendship. Yuck. Pedo friendly female characters pretty much disgust me in every medium

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[QUOTE="Jesus_on_fire"]

Its kind of funny that all these cliches can apply to WRPG'S as well

Indie_Hitman

The term cliche kind of aludes to that ... Cliches are genre defining. Would it be a JRPG withough JRPG cliches? Look at Demons Souls and how people argued over what that was.

On topic - The character design. I dislike anime designs, they look ridiculous imo. The characters themselves, I dislike the JRPG cliche characters.

Honestly,I don't mind the story being about saving the world from some evil bad guy. as long as he has a motice that isnt just "grrr i hate things" and as long as i dont have to be some 14 year old boy. WRPG's have it right here imo. It just makes more sense if say a group of jedi can save the galaxy.

Theme of friendship. Yuck. Pedo friendly female characters pretty much disgust me in every medium

Potentially too confusing for the mainstream audience. I wouldnt mind a twist like heroes were villains all along though. You're a smart geezer.

*sigh*

Yet another bash JRPG thread. Every genre has its sterotypes and can be broken down just like people keeping doing and bashing on JRPGs. I for one, like these cliches because that is what sets it apart from all other genres out there.

Complaining about a genre of video games as being to cliche is just like if you would complain about a genre of music or movie. Does it make sense to bash a Horror movie because there isn't enough romance? How about bash it because people die in it just like every other horror movie. Do you complain that Death Metal music doesn't have enough R&B in it?

Don't get me wrong though, there can and should be some evolution in the genre, which there has been but just not at the pace of other genres. It just seems some of the people in this thread want to complete take out everything that makes a JRPG game a JRPG game.

*sigh*

Yet another bash JRPG thread. Every genre has its sterotypes and can be broken down just like people keeping doing and bashing on JRPGs. I for one, like these cliches because that is what sets it apart from all other genres out there.

Complaining about a genre of video games as being to cliche is just like if you would complain about a genre of music or movie. Does it make sense to bash a Horror movie because there isn't enough romance? How about bash it because people die in it just like every other horror movie. Do you complain that Death Metal music doesn't have enough R&B in it?

Don't get me wrong though, there can and should be some evolution in the genre, which there has been but just not at the pace of other genres. It just seems some of the people in this thread want to complete take out everything that makes a JRPG game a JRPG game.

CajunShooter

It's possible to like JRPGS and still comment on the JRPG cliches you dislike ...

Secret princesses. Seriously, they can't tell us right off the bat?

*sigh*

Yet another bash JRPG thread. Every genre has its sterotypes and can be broken down just like people keeping doing and bashing on JRPGs. I for one, like these cliches because that is what sets it apart from all other genres out there.

Complaining about a genre of video games as being to cliche is just like if you would complain about a genre of music or movie. Does it make sense to bash a Horror movie because there isn't enough romance? How about bash it because people die in it just like every other horror movie. Do you complain that Death Metal music doesn't have enough R&B in it?

Don't get me wrong though, there can and should be some evolution in the genre, which there has been but just not at the pace of other genres. It just seems some of the people in this thread want to complete take out everything that makes a JRPG game a JRPG game.

CajunShooter

*sigh*

Yet another bash JRPG thread. Every genre has its sterotypes and can be broken down just like people keeping doing and bashing on JRPGs. I for one, like these cliches because that is what sets it apart from all other genres out there.

Complaining about a genre of video games as being to cliche is just like if you would complain about a genre of music or movie. Does it make sense to bash a Horror movie because there isn't enough romance? How about bash it because people die in it just like every other horror movie. Do you complain that Death Metal music doesn't have enough R&B in it?

Don't get me wrong though, there can and should be some evolution in the genre, which there has been but just not at the pace of other genres. It just seems some of the people in this thread want to complete take out everything that makes a JRPG game a JRPG game.

other: How few of their games have japanese looking people in them. It's always young/teen white kids with emo haircuts and upbeat attitudes.. I want a game with a dark brooding japanese character, not a quirky goofball. XD @acticedge: You're only complaint is not being able to knock on doors?? wow, you're wildest dreams could possibly come true.. But wouldn't you get sick of having to watch canned "knocking" animations?? And also, to complain that not being able to knock on doors isn't realistic... look at the story lines of EVERY SINGLE JRPG and find me ONE that has ANY sense of realism WHATSOEVER?? What the point of adding "door-knocking realism" in a game of pre-teen emo ***s that save the earth? If anything they would just go home listen to good charolette and cry about it... or make their mom buy them a brand new iphonedRuGGeRnaUt

Its a simpple pet peeve. Knocking would make it more realistic and be a nice change of pace. Also, not every JRPG is about saving the world

WRPGs have exactly the same cliches. Hell, fantasy novels have most of the same cliches. I guess this is national hate-on-JRPGs day. :roll:

*sigh*

Yet another bash JRPG thread. Every genre has its sterotypes and can be broken down just like people keeping doing and bashing on JRPGs. I for one, like these cliches because that is what sets it apart from all other genres out there.

Complaining about a genre of video games as being to cliche is just like if you would complain about a genre of music or movie. Does it make sense to bash a Horror movie because there isn't enough romance? How about bash it because people die in it just like every other horror movie. Do you complain that Death Metal music doesn't have enough R&B in it?

Don't get me wrong though, there can and should be some evolution in the genre, which there has been but just not at the pace of other genres. It just seems some of the people in this thread want to complete take out everything that makes a JRPG game a JRPG game.

CajunShooter

WRPGs have exactly the same cliches. Hell, fantasy novels have most of the same cliches. I guess this is national hate-on-JRPGs day. :roll:

Derek240

*sigh*

Yet another bash JRPG thread. Every genre has its sterotypes and can be broken down just like people keeping doing and bashing on JRPGs. I for one, like these cliches because that is what sets it apart from all other genres out there.

Complaining about a genre of video games as being to cliche is just like if you would complain about a genre of music or movie. Does it make sense to bash a Horror movie because there isn't enough romance? How about bash it because people die in it just like every other horror movie. Do you complain that Death Metal music doesn't have enough R&B in it?

Don't get me wrong though, there can and should be some evolution in the genre, which there has been but just not at the pace of other genres. It just seems some of the people in this thread want to complete take out everything that makes a JRPG game a JRPG game.

CajunShooter

lol everyone hating on you because they know you're right.

[QUOTE="Derek240"]

WRPGs have exactly the same cliches. Hell, fantasy novels have most of the same cliches. I guess this is national hate-on-JRPGs day. :roll:

Danm_999

It's in system wars. This topic was clearly made to bring out hate for JRPGs.

[QUOTE="CajunShooter"]

*sigh*

Yet another bash JRPG thread. Every genre has its sterotypes and can be broken down just like people keeping doing and bashing on JRPGs. I for one, like these cliches because that is what sets it apart from all other genres out there.

Complaining about a genre of video games as being to cliche is just like if you would complain about a genre of music or movie. Does it make sense to bash a Horror movie because there isn't enough romance? How about bash it because people die in it just like every other horror movie. Do you complain that Death Metal music doesn't have enough R&B in it?

Don't get me wrong though, there can and should be some evolution in the genre, which there has been but just not at the pace of other genres. It just seems some of the people in this thread want to complete take out everything that makes a JRPG game a JRPG game.

Derek240

lol everyone hating on you because they know you're right.

Evil imperialistic governments have way too large a presence in JRPG's. It feels lazy and never draws me into the story. One of the worst examples of this is what I'm playing now, Dragon Quest IX. It's like they went out of their way to include a warmongering empire, even though it was entirely suprefluous and tacked on