Most annoying JRPG cliche

[QUOTE="Danm_999"][QUOTE="Derek240"]

WRPGs have exactly the same cliches. Hell, fantasy novels have most of the same cliches. I guess this is national hate-on-JRPGs day. :roll:

Derek240

It's in system wars. This topic was clearly made to bring out hate for JRPGs.

I'm still waiting for a sophisticated game where you play alternating parties with different views on the plot events. Then, just when you think you've got it sussed, it becomes apparent that the heroes are in fact the villains. Now that's a morally grey game for you.Indie_Hitman

Project Offset was going to be like that. :(

You might want to check out:

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Planescape: Torment

Phantasy Star III

Braid

KOTOR

Wizadry 4

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Sorry about not being able to put it in Spoiler tags, Gamespot sure loves to hate my HTML. :P

Lack of physical connection.

At some point in the game (usually middle or ending) a female will throw herself at a the main character and for an unspecified reason, he'll back off. Ok so you dumped your village gf for her, killed the baddest demons arounds, endured all sorts of trials and saved her from her wicked father. But when it comes to connecting.....nooo, we cant do that (not just sex).

Thats why i give major props to Capell. He just takes whatevers given to him

"You did say........anything right?"

Im gonna elaborate more on this in a thread later so stay tuned.

Crazy hair, giant swords/guns, Emo's.tomarlyn

[QUOTE="tomarlyn"]Crazy hair, giant swords/guns, Emo's.jasonharris48

Emo is a sub-genre of punk.

[QUOTE="jasonharris48"]

[QUOTE="tomarlyn"]Crazy hair, giant swords/guns, Emo's.Yangire

Emo is a sub-genre of punk.

[QUOTE="Danm_999"][QUOTE="Derek240"]

WRPGs have exactly the same cliches. Hell, fantasy novels have most of the same cliches. I guess this is national hate-on-JRPGs day. :roll:

It's in system wars. This topic was clearly made to bring out hate for JRPGs.

A "JRPG Cliche" is the same cliches in any "hero's journey" story. Don't pretend that only "JRPG's" have those cliches and that "WRPG" are somehow immune to them(I put it in quotations because Japanese people work on these games to you xenophobic idiots).

The most annoying trend in RPGs today would have to be the "Adventure book" style of conversation trees that are obviously good, bad or 'get to know your buddies choices. Cant we just pick good or bad at the start and not have to go through the long drawn out conversation trees that seem to do nothing but extend the *cough* game play?

Anyway... I forgot who said it but "There is not a great story that hasn't already been written". (or something like that)

Lack of physical connection.

At some point in the game (usually middle or ending) a female will throw herself at a the main character and for an unspecified reason, he'll back off. Ok so you dumped your village gf for her, killed the baddest demons arounds, endured all sorts of trials and saved her from her wicked father. But when it comes to connecting.....nooo, we cant do that (not just sex).

Thats why i give major props to Capell. He just takes whatevers given to him

"You did say........anything right?"

Im gonna elaborate more on this in a thread later so stay tuned.

shutdown_202

I don't know about this...I think JRPGs do it well....maybe I have played just ones that do it well. This iconic scene from Suikoden II is a great example.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=inRwD4maiy8

@johnharris48

This site explains the premise of Suikoden II really well and why it is in his top 5 console RPGs

http://www.gamelemon.com/article_30010.jsp

Hands down the teenage boy who saves the world cliche is old and over used.

A bunch of kids saving the world is certainly the worse.RyuRanVII

[QUOTE="shutdown_202"]

Lack of physical connection.

At some point in the game (usually middle or ending) a female will throw herself at a the main character and for an unspecified reason, he'll back off. Ok so you dumped your village gf for her, killed the baddest demons arounds, endured all sorts of trials and saved her from her wicked father. But when it comes to connecting.....nooo, we cant do that (not just sex).

Thats why i give major props to Capell. He just takes whatevers given to him

"You did say........anything right?"

Im gonna elaborate more on this in a thread later so stay tuned.

texasgoldrush

I don't know about this...I think JRPGs do it well....maybe I have played just ones that do it well. This iconic scene from Suikoden II is a great example.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=inRwD4maiy8

@johnharris48

This site explains the premise of Suikoden II really well and why it is in his top 5 console RPGs

http://www.gamelemon.com/article_30010.jsp

The male characters definitely. They look like trannys. It's quite disturbing.

Sorry about not being able to put it in Spoiler tags, Gamespot sure loves to hate my HTML. :P

tagyhag

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The single parent/orphan rule kills me.

IIRC Ive only played one JRPG where both you biological parents are alive and dont die later on in the game.

Tales of Inocence.

5-second gaps between lines of dialouge.

Annoying gasps/stuttered breathing noises in "dramatic" situations.

I don't mind the gameplay. I don't mind the plotlines. I even don't mind the refusal to modernize.

But what I can't stand is the breaks in the voice acting. Gets on my nerves every time.

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jasonharris48

I've had it with the JRPG fantasy characters. They are too overdone and annoying to enjoy after the 3484080980590805th time.

It's one of the reasons I loved Persona 4 so much. They were somewhat "realistic" Japanese teens solving a mystery. Simple, yet effective.I want more JRPGs like that.

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mrmusicman247

Castles. Big ass castles, with **** all to see.SaltyMeatballs

It starts off like a castle but then you find the ROFL disk that goes with the LMAO plate and insert them into the placeholders on the wall and then the wall opens up and it's an underground city with all sorts of weird monsters and stuff.

EVERY RE, Devil May Cry and Onimusha game is like that

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Shirokishi_

The single parent/orphan rule kills me.

IIRC Ive only played one JRPG where both you biological parents are alive and dont die later on in the game.

Tales of Inocence.

Chrono Trigger?

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hakanakumono

The single parent/orphan rule kills me.

IIRC Ive only played one JRPG where both you biological parents are alive and dont die later on in the game.

Tales of Inocence.

Chrono Trigger?

[QUOTE="Shirokishi_"]

[QUOTE="mrmusicman247"]

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hakanakumono

The single parent/orphan rule kills me.

IIRC Ive only played one JRPG where both you biological parents are alive and dont die later on in the game.

Tales of Inocence.

Chrono Trigger?

Daddy was never there.

[QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

[QUOTE="Shirokishi_"]

The single parent/orphan rule kills me.

IIRC Ive only played one JRPG where both you biological parents are alive and dont die later on in the game.

Tales of Inocence.

Shirokishi_

Chrono Trigger?

Daddy was never there.

Does it really matter lol?

I don't know why there is an abundance of whiny emo kids in a lot of Japanese media.Vesica_Prime

While I wont say they are "Emo kids" in Japanese media, the general idea is Japan as a comunity is extremely conformist to the point where being a rebel or "outcast" is looked down upon severely.

-Whacky Hair

-Unconventional weapons

-Love triangles

-Bizzare Clothing

-efiminate figures

all stand out to Japanese society creating what is a dynamic rebelious character in there culture. The same way characters in WRPG seems to focus more on Joe Everyman coming to power, mostly JRPG characters are rebels from the get-go. It's a matter of what kind of "Hero" the culture is looking for.

WRPG: Easy to reflect yourself and other upon, generaly "Bland" character designs

JRPG: Unique and edgy going to many "Extreme" character designs.

Also.

The single parent/orphan rule kills me.

IIRC Ive only played one JRPG where both you biological parents are alive and dont die later on in the gameShirokishi_

Earthbound!...well you never "See" your dad but he talks to you on the Phone!

Guys that look like girls.

Way too much over the top action.

Everybody who screams or cries sounds like a four year old chinese kid.

[QUOTE="Shirokishi_"]

[QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

Chrono Trigger?

hakanakumono

Daddy was never there.

Does it really matter lol?

I was talking about both parents being present, so sort of lol.

Oh hey , don't mind my windswept spiky hair, robe and colossal sword.

[QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

[QUOTE="Shirokishi_"]

Daddy was never there.

Shirokishi_

Does it really matter lol?

I was talking about both parents being present, so sort of lol.

I know of another game, but I'll put the game in a spoiler tag since it was released this generation. The parents of the main character are both present and alive at the end of the game.

[spoiler] The Last Remnant [/spoiler]

[QUOTE="Shirokishi_"]

[QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

Does it really matter lol?

Kuromino

I was talking about both parents being present, so sort of lol.

I know of another game, but I'll put the game in a spoiler tag since it was released this generation. The parents of the main character are both present and alive at the end of the game.

I find it hard to call.... that game a JRPG, which is why I didnt mention it.

Great game though.

Every man looks like a woman, Emo characters crying over not being able to save the world, half naked chicks that have somehow have the ability to have more armor than you, tiny animals that look adorable and innocent but can 1 hit you.

Cultural note: In Japan sharp edges are perceived as masculine. I hope that helps with understanding why "spiky" hair is frequent in Japanese male characters. This belief is ingrained to the point where one writing system is perceived as masculine over the other.

[QUOTE="texasgoldrush"]

[QUOTE="shutdown_202"]

Lack of physical connection.

At some point in the game (usually middle or ending) a female will throw herself at a the main character and for an unspecified reason, he'll back off. Ok so you dumped your village gf for her, killed the baddest demons arounds, endured all sorts of trials and saved her from her wicked father. But when it comes to connecting.....nooo, we cant do that (not just sex).

Thats why i give major props to Capell. He just takes whatevers given to him

"You did say........anything right?"

Im gonna elaborate more on this in a thread later so stay tuned.

jasonharris48

I don't know about this...I think JRPGs do it well....maybe I have played just ones that do it well. This iconic scene from Suikoden II is a great example.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=inRwD4maiy8

@johnharris48

This site explains the premise of Suikoden II really well and why it is in his top 5 console RPGs

http://www.gamelemon.com/article_30010.jsp

He got the top 4 correct however, but I would put Chrono Trigger second and FFT fourth. He liked KOTOR II, but its not 5th...stretch there.

[QUOTE="Yangire"]

[QUOTE="jasonharris48"] What's a Emo?

jasonharris48

Emo is a sub-genre of punk.

Does it really matter lol?hakanakumono

[QUOTE="jasonharris48"]

[QUOTE="texasgoldrush"]

I don't know about this...I think JRPGs do it well....maybe I have played just ones that do it well. This iconic scene from Suikoden II is a great example.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=inRwD4maiy8

@johnharris48

This site explains the premise of Suikoden II really well and why it is in his top 5 console RPGs

http://www.gamelemon.com/article_30010.jsp

texasgoldrush

He got the top 4 correct however, but I would put Chrono Trigger second and FFT fourth. He liked KOTOR II, but its not 5th...stretch there.

[QUOTE="Indie_Hitman"] I'm still waiting for a sophisticated game where you play alternating parties with different views on the plot events. Then, just when you think you've got it sussed, it becomes apparent that the heroes are in fact the villains. Now that's a morally grey game for you.tagyhag

Project Offset was going to be like that. :(

You might want to check out:

SPOILER

Planescape: Torment

Phantasy Star III

Braid

KOTOR

Wizadry 4

ENDSPOILER

Sorry about not being able to put it in Spoiler tags, Gamespot sure loves to hate my HTML. :P

It makes me sad sometimes when people think that JRPG are a genre of gaming, when it's an art style of games. HarlockJC

It makes me sad sometimes when people think that JRPG are a genre of gaming, when it's an art style of games. HarlockJC