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#301 -Pred-Alien-
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Kojima Productions is very overrated in my opinion

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#302 Abicus7
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As much as I love Final Fantasy, Im gunna say Square-Enix.

There are just too many other great RPG's that get no attention because they are not made by SE.

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#303 razgriz_101
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Im going with Rare, goldeneye was good but most of their games arent AS great as people make them out to be.

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#304 Iamsmee
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By a country mile... it has to be Rare. Don't get me wrong, Diddy Kong Racing was a classic and Battletoads is good old masochistic NES era fun, but they have so many overrated games/franchises...

  • Goldeneye
  • Banjo
  • Donkey Kong 64
  • Conker's Bad Fur Day *readies the flame shield*
  • Starfox Adventures
  • Donkey Konga... ugh
  • Perfect Dark
  • Killer Instinct

I'm genuinely convinced that the only reason they are so widely praised to this day is due to pure nostalgia. Perfect Dark may well work better with the 360 pad when it comes out on Live Arcade, but having had a bash at with with a couple of friends recently, I felt the controls were absolutely horrific.

Square come in at a distant second, if only for the amount of unwarranted praise heaped on the World Ends With You. Fine I get it, the game and its battle system are uniquem but the obnoxiously bad story and dialogue killed it for me.

Menalque2

I don't think anyone who knows anything about Rare overrates them. Most people know they are not the same Rare that made those classics, most of which weren't genre changing but were just good games in general. 007 is genre changing, it is one of the most important FPS games and THE most important for console FPS games.

Again, Rare is not the same, sure I'm sure they still have some of the talent that they used to have in terms of developers but in general most of them left and moved on. Anyone who hypes Rare now days is either, 1. media, 2. stupid... aka a xbox fanboy...

MS to me, pretty much only brought the copyright of Rare rather then a full company full of their past talent.

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#305 deactivated-594be627b82ba
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i'll go with valve, except portal i couldn't find the strenght to finish the other games on the orange box and team forteress was just horrible

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#306 princeofshapeir
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I think the guy that did God of War is such a loudmouthed tool that needs to shut up. Obvious Sony fanboy that likes to drop the f-bomb to make himself heard. All he's done is God of War, yet he has the guts to insult Miyamoto and other non-Sony developers. But other than that, Bungie is pretty overrated.
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#307 nintendoboy16
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For me, it's Team Ninja and Rare (this gen).

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#308 Andrewlee
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Bungie

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#309 walkingdream
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If anybody says Bungie ill kill them....
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#310 DrumVader
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Although I liked the Final Fantasy games, I still think Sqaure Enix is overrated.

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#311 walkingdream
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Bungie

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3 AAA Games in a row with many countless other great games? plus do you even know what their like? their hilarious!
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#312 walkingdream
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[QUOTE="PurpleHaze89"]

Kojima Productions is very overrated in my opinion

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How dare you:|

Agreed:|

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#313 princeofshapeir
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[QUOTE="Andrewlee"]

Bungie

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3 AAA Games in a row with many countless other great games? plus do you even know what their like? their hilarious!

That's why he said Bungie: because he thinks that all of the Halo games are overrated and not deserving of their consecutive AAA status. I share the same opinion.
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#314 walkingdream
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Bungie and Rockstar. They only have one good franchise to their names, and both are over-rated.beekayjay
Marathon? or were you to young for that game from bungie?
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#315 princeofshapeir
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[QUOTE="beekayjay"]Bungie and Rockstar. They only have one good franchise to their names, and both are over-rated.walkingdream
Marathon? or were you to young for that game from bungie?

Also, Rockstar has Max Payne and Manhunt to their name.
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#316 BoloTheGreat
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SE is highly overhyped, same with kojima.
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#317 princeofshapeir
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SE is highly overhyped, same with kojima. BoloTheGreat
I don't see how you can call Kojima Productions overhyped, since Metal Gear, Zone of the Enders, and Boktai are all great franchises.
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#318 walkingdream
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[QUOTE="walkingdream"][QUOTE="Andrewlee"]

Bungie

princeofshapeir
3 AAA Games in a row with many countless other great games? plus do you even know what their like? their hilarious!

That's why he said Bungie: because he thinks that all of the Halo games are overrated and not deserving of their consecutive AAA status. I share the same opinion.

Lol actually i would tend to agree with you...but i still love them:D well Halo 1 deserved a 10 for it's time and platform IMO but 2 and 3 i agree with.
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#319 aliblabla2007
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Bethesda.

Also, this thread is about a year old.

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#320 markop2003
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Infinity Ward, they're shooters are ok, but just ok though they seem to be rated as gods of the genre
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#321 mr-krinkles
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I think Id Software have been dead since Quake III. Dont know how much recognition they get nowadays but relative to their former glory I'd think they're overrated now in '09. People are still humping legs after Doom 4 right? I dont give a rat's after 3.

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#322 mr-krinkles
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I think Id Software have been dead since Quake III. Dont know how much recognition they get nowadays but relative to their former glory I'd think they're overrated now in '09. People are still humping legs after Doom 4 right? I dont give a rat's after 3.

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Not only has Id's core gameplay been exactly the same since Doom 1, they're also getting owned at engines now. I think Source obliterated the Doom 3 engine, even in appearance. Sure Doom3 had nice lighting effects and that special bump mapping textures, but Source just looked so great and had so much more versatility (large environments with epic scale, indoor, outdoor, nicer water effects, wicked physics). Yeah, Id has been getting owned by Valve since Half Life came out (Half Life v Quake 2, Quake 3 v CS - though Valve got lucky here obviously seeing as it was a mod, and the greatest mod ever made at that, Doom 3 v Half Life 2)
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#323 striking_
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Yeah Valve was the first one that came to mind for me too considering how little they have done for console owners like myself. (Lack of team fortress 2 update anyone) My second choice would have to Epic because everyone loves them now that they made Geow which i (and plenty of other people) don't like.
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#324 creeping-deth87
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Valve is absolutely my pick for most overrated developer.
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#325 Midnightshade29
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[QUOTE="SwiftDragon616"]

Back when I was like 10 or 12, I remember playing the first Unreal.

Man that game was fun, the new stuff, not so much.

SwiftDragon616

Actually ut2k4 was awesome. I think that was epics last major unreal game, ut3 sucks so hard in comparison.

Agreed...Epic became overrated when the left the pc market abandoned their fans and made console games and the worst gaming engine to grace the console/pc world. I can't stand how they make every character across all their games look like Lineman Wearing speakers on their ches or other such armor, with legs and arms the size of mac trucks...it makes them ver clunky to move around. I remember the original Unreal was a blast of a fps than Unreal Tournament kicked so much arse it was incredible (even better than Quake 3 back in the day, imo) UT2004 was the pinnacle for them, it was their last PC game, I remember getting Directors Edition DVD (one of the first pc dvd games....took them long enough....I hated getting games on 5 cd's before that, when ps2 and xbox had dvds since 2000)...The dc had a gizzion bonus maps, a slew of extras and mods on the disk and an extra disk filled with 40 hours of how to build maps and mods with UT2 engine....(which I liked alot, it was a very good engine compared to u3)

Fast forward to today and you have Cliffy B. being arrogant as ever... why do game media always go to him at e3 and other events like he is the head spokesman for epic when he is not! He is just an irritating little xbox fanboy who is also a dev. Both Gears and Unreal 3 sucked imo.... I could go into every reason, but my post will become 6-7 paragraphs easy and people here don't like to read so what's the point.
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#326 bingbaocao
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For me, it's Team Ninja and Rare (this gen).

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how is RARE overrated? they got nothing but hate this gen
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#327 Burnsmiesta
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[QUOTE="BoloTheGreat"]SE is highly overhyped, same with kojima. princeofshapeir
I don't see how you can call Kojima Productions overhyped, since Metal Gear, Zone of the Enders, and Boktai are all great franchises.



The same way someone can say Bungie are overrated because they don't like Halo?

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#328 princeofshapeir
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[QUOTE="nintendoboy16"]

For me, it's Team Ninja and Rare (this gen).

bingbaocao
how is RARE overrated? they got nothing but hate this gen

They've got nothing to hate, but nothing that I particularly love.
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#329 santoron
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Valve is what popped into my head, though SE is within shouting distance.
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#330 bingbaocao
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[QUOTE="bingbaocao"][QUOTE="nintendoboy16"]

For me, it's Team Ninja and Rare (this gen).

princeofshapeir
how is RARE overrated? they got nothing but hate this gen

They've got nothing to hate, but nothing that I particularly love.

still does that warrant them the tittle of overrated developers? no matter where I go you always hear how RARE isn't what it used to be, yadda yadda yadda
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#331 beast667
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By a country mile... it has to be Rare. Don't get me wrong, Diddy Kong Racing was a classic and Battletoads is good old masochistic NES era fun, but they have so many overrated games/franchises...

  • Goldeneye
  • Banjo
  • Donkey Kong 64
  • Conker's Bad Fur Day *readies the flame shield*
  • Starfox Adventures
  • Donkey Konga... ugh
  • Perfect Dark
  • Killer Instinct

I'm genuinely convinced that the only reason they are so widely praised to this day is due to pure nostalgia. Perfect Dark may well work better with the 360 pad when it comes out on Live Arcade, but having had a bash at with with a couple of friends recently, I felt the controls were absolutely horrific.

Square come in at a distant second, if only for the amount of unwarranted praise heaped on the World Ends With You. Fine I get it, the game and its battle system are uniquem but the obnoxiously bad story and dialogue killed it for me.

Menalque2

WTF, this post is so full of fail its not even funny. Those franchises are some of the best of all time, and the only bad one (Donkey Konga) wasn't even ****ing developed by rare.

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#332 SerpentX541
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Valve

Yes they made Half life but they are also one of the laziest developers i have ever seen.

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#333 Samox
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[QUOTE="Menalque2"]

By a country mile... it has to be Rare. Don't get me wrong, Diddy Kong Racing was a classic and Battletoads is good old masochistic NES era fun, but they have so many overrated games/franchises...

  • Goldeneye
  • Banjo
  • Donkey Kong 64
  • Conker's Bad Fur Day *readies the flame shield*
  • Starfox Adventures
  • Donkey Konga... ugh
  • Perfect Dark
  • Killer Instinct

I'm genuinely convinced that the only reason they are so widely praised to this day is due to pure nostalgia. Perfect Dark may well work better with the 360 pad when it comes out on Live Arcade, but having had a bash at with with a couple of friends recently, I felt the controls were absolutely horrific.

Square come in at a distant second, if only for the amount of unwarranted praise heaped on the World Ends With You. Fine I get it, the game and its battle system are uniquem but the obnoxiously bad story and dialogue killed it for me.

beast667

WTF, this post is so full of fail its not even funny. Those franchises are some of the best of all time, and the only bad one (Donkey Konga) wasn't even ****ing developed by rare.

Yeah, I agree. That post is one of the most mind boggaling things ive ever seen.

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#334 Solid_Tango
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#335 BoloTheGreat
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ValveSolid_Tango
Why? What have they not done right?! Portal alone makes them highly praise worthy.
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#336 BioShockOwnz
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Insomniac, no doubt.

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#337 pyromaniac223
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SE is overrated. Insomniac is a bit overrated, they make good games in a timely manner, but they aren't as good as, say, valve or bioware. Epic is overrated something awful Naughty Dog has recently jumped from criminally underrated to massively overrated. They won a poll for best dev this gen and they've released one good game this gen. One.
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#338 Avian005
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Valve, my honest opinion.

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#339 unknown37
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Crapcom, They haven't put out a single game this gen that lived up to its predecessor (excluding Megaman 9, a downloadable game), or even got close for that matter, DMC3>DMC4, SF3>SF4, RE4>RE5, BC>BCR
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#340 Solid_Tango
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[QUOTE="Solid_Tango"]ValveBoloTheGreat
Why? What have they not done right?! Portal alone makes them highly praise worthy.

I love portal, but their big games ( half life, l4d) are meh, but still everyone prises them like they changed the industry or something
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#341 Trinners
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Valve.

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Activision-Tim FREAKING Shafer

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#343 pyromaniac223
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[QUOTE="BoloTheGreat"][QUOTE="Solid_Tango"]ValveSolid_Tango
Why? What have they not done right?! Portal alone makes them highly praise worthy.

I love portal, but their big games ( half life, l4d) are meh, but still everyone prises them like they changed the industry or something

That's because they did. Lots of Valve hate in here
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#344 lizzardman666
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Gee, it sure is Valve hate around here!

I'll go with Bioware and Square Enix.

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#345 hiphops_savior
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Bioshock make great games, but they're absolutely terrible at optimization.
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#347 07pops07
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i know some people might be upset about this one but blizzard just because if every dev had the ammount of time and money they had they could do a lot more. but still a good game is good even if it takes 10 years:P

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#348 smithster118
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Pandemic.

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#349 789shadow
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Bioshock make great games, but they're absolutely terrible at optimization.hiphops_savior

Don't you mean Bioware?>_>

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