MS is damaging the franchises we all grew up with

um... wtf

nice conversation you're having with yourself mate

Are you sure its not just because they are coming out with new games that people happen to like more? No, that can't be it. MS is responsible for all of the evil done in the world!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I don't MS has to try hard to convince a developer to go multiplat - rising development costs have forced plenty of devs hands. It's the cost of HD graphics - Sony is just much a cause of this as Microsoft.

Also, developers failing to output quality is the fault of that developer. Plenty of multiplat games have come out this gen and done phenomenally. The problem with those franchises is its hard to maintain a balance of familiarity and freshness in most gaming series - change too little and gets called a rehash, change too much and its called abandoning the fan base. It's a very thin line which most developers tend to miss.

However, its not Microsoft's fault. Its the developers decisions.

Yep, it's MS's fault that games cost way more to make and companies chose to go multiplate in order to profit? The franchise you listed are made for traditional "core" audiences which haven't grown much in the past few years.

AAA franchise turns AA? Maybe because the numbers behind them are getting larger as well and they are simply not innovative enough anymore? Standards change, do you honestly felt RE5 would be better if it's exclusive/timed-exclusive? Just because they are "loved" franchise don't mean they get a free-pass (yes I am looking at you SC :D, but then again it's only a 2).

Yeah.. have timed exclusives, so everyone can start telling each other "LOL YOU BETA TESTERS" :roll:. It's not anyone's fault that a franchise is losing quality, the blame falls strictly on developers themselves.

Sorry guys I had to split it into 3 parts because on the PS3 browser there is a limit to much text you can put in one post. BTW PLEASE read all before you you bash, I know SW's has a bit of reacting to things before actually reading the post. Do not just post after reading the title!! Swift_Boss_A

The real problem is that a lot of publishers are becoming greedy. They make games multi-platform and rush them out before they're properly finished. Personally, I don't let exclusives going multiplat deter me from my habits. Despite a lot of old PS2 series going to MS this gen I stillget RE, FF, DMC, etc.gamesfor myPS3.

consoles destoryed FPS, rpgs, brought down standards and held back gaming progress. see i can do the samething too, however i direct it all consoles instead of one specific console. its not entirely true except for the fps part. btw tekken is a button masher and always has been, RE was good, but it was on the nintendo first wasn't it (seriously, i am not sure about that) and final fantasy started on nintendo not the playstation. so please stop acting like its all xbox's fault that you beloved franchises got better or worse. a game sucks when a developer gets lazy and doesnt care anymore, not when a developer decides to make a game for the Wii, 360, ps3 or PC. its all up to the dev

well we cant blame them. its business after all.

[QUOTE="Swift_Boss_A"]Sorry guys I had to split it into 3 parts because on the PS3 browser there is a limit to much text you can put in one post. BTW PLEASE read all before you you bash, I know SW's has a bit of reacting to things before actually reading the post. Do not just post after reading the title!! Skittles_McGee

I'll never get enough of PS3 fanboys blaming the Xbox 360 for a perceived drop off in quality in their favorite games. Clearly, it's the Xbox 360's fault for existing.

Damn that inanimate piece of plastic, silicon and metal. Why must you suck so much?

*sigh*

[QUOTE="Skittles_McGee"][QUOTE="Swift_Boss_A"]Sorry guys I had to split it into 3 parts because on the PS3 browser there is a limit to much text you can put in one post. BTW PLEASE read all before you you bash, I know SW's has a bit of reacting to things before actually reading the post. Do not just post after reading the title!! Swift_Boss_A

One point its all you need.

So how exactly is it Microsofts fault just for existing that the games you mentioned haven't been good enough to be as popular *they were never that popular any ways* that other games are now the fault of them? ME, Gears...ect its their fault those games don't do as well cause they are more popular?

Maybe those other games you mentioned should step up and make something truly good then?

*shakes head*

Fanboy lesson 101.

Hate every system but the one you own. I only own the PS3 this gen but have great deal of respect for Ninty, I do not hate the Wii.

Downplay every top rated game on other system, I commend Wii and 360 for the top rated titles they have, despite not appealing to me I do not bash AAA/AA on other systems.

How am I a cow or fanboy again? Oh right sorry I forgot we worship MS, anything bad against the Xbox brand means one is a fanboy but it's totally cool to bash Ninty and Sony. How much is MS paying you guys? :evil:Swift_Boss_A

Fanboy lesson 101.

Hate every system but the one you own. I only own the PS3 this gen but have great deal of respect for Ninty, I do not hate the Wii.

Downplay every top rated game on other system, I commend Wii and 360 for the top rated titles they have, despite not appealing to me I do not bash AAA/AA on other systems.

How am I a cow or fanboy again? Oh right sorry I forgot we worship MS, anything bad against the Xbox brand means one is a fanboy but it's totally cool to bash Ninty and Sony. How much is MS paying you guys? :evil:Swift_Boss_A

MS pays me nothing. I like Sony more than Microsoft. But in my world, I don't see a AA score as a AAA score. My world is called reality. :|

Fanboy lesson 101.

Hate every system but the one you own. I only own the PS3 this gen but have great deal of respect for Ninty, I do not hate the Wii.

Downplay every top rated game on other system, I commend Wii and 360 for the top rated titles they have, despite not appealing to me I do not bash AAA/AA on other systems.

How am I a cow or fanboy again? Oh right sorry I forgot we worship MS, anything bad against the Xbox brand means one is a fanboy but it's totally cool to bash Ninty and Sony. How much is MS paying you guys? :evil:Swift_Boss_A

YEA Blame Xbox360 for turning this

Killzone2005 Trailer < reson why they win Grafic award

To this The actual Retail In game

The awnser its Simple PS3 always lie abut games before they come out so when they go Multiplatform its get blame on xbox

Actually it would get an 8.5. It scored an 8.6, you would round down to 8.5 not up to 9.0. Math doesn't change to support your arguement. Even then, it didn't score AAA. "What ifs" can be played all day, but what matters is it wasn't AAA.That also doesn't change the fact that off the top of my head, FF9 was also not AAA. Scored 8.5. Exclusive.Resident Evil 3 was also not AAA. I'll use that one since its a core game.But basically, those all nullify your point. They weren't consistent AAA series to begin with. When they went to the 360 this gen, that didn't change. Anything else you said really doesn't matter because the basic point, the very foundation of your argument, is false and meaningless. Have a nice night.Skittles_McGee

YEA Blame Xbox360 for turning this

Killzone2005 Trailer < reson why they win Grafic award

To this The actual Retail In game

The awnser its Simple PS3 always lie abut games before they come out so when they go Multiplatform its get blame on xbox

marcos27pr

Fanboy lesson 101.

Hate every system but the one you own. I only own the PS3 this gen but have great deal of respect for Ninty, I do not hate the Wii.

Downplay every top rated game on other system, I commend Wii and 360 for the top rated titles they have, despite not appealing to me I do not bash AAA/AA on other systems.

How am I a cow or fanboy again? Oh right sorry I forgot we worship MS, anything bad against the Xbox brand means one is a fanboy but it's totally cool to bash Ninty and Sony. How much is MS paying you guys? :evil:Swift_Boss_A

Oh, I'm sorry, I was totally unreasonable for believing that you're a Sony fanboy. After reading your thread title and your opening post, it was clearly unreasonable of me to believe that you disliked the Xbox 360. I mean, blaming Microsoft and the Xbox 360 for a lack of quality in the games you love so much instead of blaming the developers of the games themselves? How could I perceive that as being an attack on MS and the Xbox 360?

Given your history of bashing the Xbox 360, I was clearly mistaken in believing that you didn't like the platform and were using this thread to bash them more than you already have. My bad.

Please. :|

I don't know who you're trying to fool here but it's definitely not working.

[QUOTE="Skittles_McGee"]Actually it would get an 8.5. It scored an 8.6, you would round down to 8.5 not up to 9.0. Math doesn't change to support your arguement. Even then, it didn't score AAA. "What ifs" can be played all day, but what matters is it wasn't AAA.That also doesn't change the fact that off the top of my head, FF9 was also not AAA. Scored 8.5. Exclusive.Resident Evil 3 was also not AAA. I'll use that one since its a core game.But basically, those all nullify your point. They weren't consistent AAA series to begin with. When they went to the 360 this gen, that didn't change. Anything else you said really doesn't matter because the basic point, the very foundation of your argument, is false and meaningless. Have a nice night.Swift_Boss_A

you know guys for a system thats supposedly better in every way, all PS3 owners do is complain. you would think after all the hardware problems and what not, 360 fans would be in here crying everyday.

[QUOTE="Skittles_McGee"]Actually it would get an 8.5. It scored an 8.6, you would round down to 8.5 not up to 9.0. Math doesn't change to support your arguement. Even then, it didn't score AAA. "What ifs" can be played all day, but what matters is it wasn't AAA.That also doesn't change the fact that off the top of my head, FF9 was also not AAA. Scored 8.5. Exclusive.Resident Evil 3 was also not AAA. I'll use that one since its a core game.But basically, those all nullify your point. They weren't consistent AAA series to begin with. When they went to the 360 this gen, that didn't change. Anything else you said really doesn't matter because the basic point, the very foundation of your argument, is false and meaningless. Have a nice night.Swift_Boss_A

[QUOTE="Skittles_McGee"]Actually it would get an 8.5. It scored an 8.6, you would round down to 8.5 not up to 9.0. Math doesn't change to support your arguement. Even then, it didn't score AAA. "What ifs" can be played all day, but what matters is it wasn't AAA.That also doesn't change the fact that off the top of my head, FF9 was also not AAA. Scored 8.5. Exclusive.Resident Evil 3 was also not AAA. I'll use that one since its a core game.But basically, those all nullify your point. They weren't consistent AAA series to begin with. When they went to the 360 this gen, that didn't change. Anything else you said really doesn't matter because the basic point, the very foundation of your argument, is false and meaningless. Have a nice night.Swift_Boss_A

[QUOTE="marcos27pr"]

YEA Blame Xbox360 for turning this

Killzone2005 Trailer < reson why they win Grafic award

To this The actual Retail In game

The awnser its Simple PS3 always lie abut games before they come out so when they go Multiplatform its get blame on xbox

Skittles_McGee

you know guys for a system thats supposedly better in every way, all PS3 owners do is complain. you would think after all the hardware problems and what not, 360 fans would be in here crying everyday.

LEGEND_C4A

Reading is so hard :cry: DMC2 ok was bad but DMC3 although not AAA still scored better than DMC4, if GS used a 0.5 review system last gen like this gen then DMC3 would have been AAA.Swift_Boss_A

you know guys for a system thats supposedly better in every way, all PS3 owners do is complain. you would think after all the hardware problems and what not, 360 fans would be in here crying everyday.

LEGEND_C4A

Fanboy lesson 101.

Hate every system but the one you own. I only own the PS3 this gen but have great deal of respect for Ninty, I do not hate the Wii.

Downplay every top rated game on other system, I commend Wii and 360 for the top rated titles they have, despite not appealing to me I do not bash AAA/AA on other systems.

How am I a cow or fanboy again? Oh right sorry I forgot we worship MS, anything bad against the Xbox brand means one is a fanboy but it's totally cool to bash Ninty and Sony. How much is MS paying you guys? :evil:Swift_Boss_A

They are paying me enough thank you very much :evil:

Too bad they don't know Sony and Nintendo are paying me too :twisted:

[QUOTE="Swift_Boss_A"][QUOTE="Skittles_McGee"]Actually it would get an 8.5. It scored an 8.6, you would round down to 8.5 not up to 9.0. Math doesn't change to support your arguement. Even then, it didn't score AAA. "What ifs" can be played all day, but what matters is it wasn't AAA.That also doesn't change the fact that off the top of my head, FF9 was also not AAA. Scored 8.5. Exclusive.Resident Evil 3 was also not AAA. I'll use that one since its a core game.But basically, those all nullify your point. They weren't consistent AAA series to begin with. When they went to the 360 this gen, that didn't change. Anything else you said really doesn't matter because the basic point, the very foundation of your argument, is false and meaningless. Have a nice night.Skittles_McGee

Getting AA by innovating is better than playing it safe right? Well guess what. DMC3 played it safe, as I pointed out. DMC4 innovated, being the first game in the series to use the Devil Bringer and its mechanics, as well as the Exceed. So by your own false logic, DMC4 is better.

Go on. Spin this :|

Did the haters even read my 2nd post? I mentioned that I would have been happier if MS made the titles exclusive, at least then the quality and innovation may have been maintained..... but MS would probably find a way to ruin loved franchises just like they have ruined Rare.Swift_Boss_A

Did the haters even read my 2nd post? I mentioned that I would have been happier if MS made the titles exclusive, at least then the quality and innovation may have been maintained..... but MS would probably find a way to ruin loved franchises just like they have ruined Rare.Swift_Boss_A

Actually you know what, I want to add to this. Lets use your spinned logic. Getting AA by innovating is better than playing it safe right?Well guess what. DMC3 played it safe, as I pointed out. DMC4 innovated, being the first game in the series to use the Devil Bringer and its mechanics, as well as the Exceed.So by your own false logic, DMC4 is better. Go on. Spin this Skittles_McGee

Actually you know what, I want to add to this. Lets use your spun logic.Getting AA by innovating is better than playing it safe right? Well guess what. DMC3 played it safe, as I pointed out. DMC4 innovated, being the first game in the series to use the Devil Bringer and its mechanics, as well as the Exceed. So by your own false logic, DMC4 is better.Go on. Spin this :|Skittles_McGee

[QUOTE="marcos27pr"]

YEA Blame Xbox360 for turning this

Killzone2005 Trailer < reson why they win Grafic award

To this The actual Retail In game

The awnser its Simple PS3 always lie abut games before they come out so when they go Multiplatform its get blame on xbox

Skittles_McGee

YOUR MISSING THE POINT

you cant blame Xbox360 for ever Multiplatform that get Annonce as grafic king then turns out to look like junk

FF13 promis a lot yet now the gameplay its difrent PS3 fans quicly point fingers at 360 but the truth is Game developers do it all the time and by the way how did fable2 underdiliver all Pre game pics look the same as in game even better in game if you ask me

i think killzone2 its the sadest led down in history the game developers even say that the 2005 video was 100% gameplay LOL just look at thos pics