MW3 multiplayer inspired by COD4

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011-07-15-mw3-multiplayer-inspired-by-cod4

Modern Warfare 3 multiplayer maps are being designed with a "Call of Duty 4 mentality", Infinity Ward has revealed.

Numerous nooks and crannies are out; simplified, fewer-tiered designs are in.

This not only "discourages the more camper mentality that seems to emerge in the map design of Modern Wafare 2", Infinity Ward creative strategist Robert Bowling told Kotaku - it also "simplifies it so that the less skilled player has less to think about".

The overarching goal is to get back to faster "gun-on-gun" battles.

"Modern Warfare ****is, for me, all about the high-speed, fast-paced - and I'm talking in terms of smooth controls and 60-frames-per-second framerate - infantry-focused combat," Bowling shared.

"And it's all focused on that gun-on-gun gameplay, especially in Modern Warfare 3. I feel like it's something we nailed with Call of Duty 4. We moved away from it a little bit with MW2, relying heavily on air support, killstreaks, perks and stuff like that.

"Modern Warfare 3 very much [is] building up from that Call of Duty 4 mentality of gun-on-gun, fast-paced infantry gameplay."

Robert Bowling, creative strategist, Infinity Ward

"Modern Warfare 3 very much [is] building up from that Call of Duty 4 mentality of gun-on-gun, fast-paced infantry gameplay."

Modern Warfare 3 will have far fewer "hotspots" per multiplayer map, explained Bowling. And while multi-tiered levels are out of favour, they'll still exist, albeit in meaningful ways rather than as bread-and-butter routine. Air support will be downplayed in Modern Warfare 3, too.

"With Modern Warfare 3 it's much, much more on allowing you to focus on what's necessary," added Bowling. "It's making vertical combat when it makes sense, but it's not a blanket rule across every map. You will have some maps that focus on verticality and that are focused on multiple things. And then you have other maps that are very limited on the hotspots.

"The hotspots are a key thing on Modern Warfare 3," he elaborated. "We went into each map wanting you to be able to turn a corner and know very easily that these are the three - no more than five - places I need to check."

The Modern Warfare 3 multiplayer reveal is being reserved by Activision for the Call of Duty XP fan convention in early September. There we'll also hear about what else multiplayer accompaniment Call of Duty: Elite has up its sleeve.

Its too late Activision. Releasing a copy of Halo Waypoint and Battlefield Battlelog but for a fee and then having dangerously identical graphics as your previous games won't cut it for me. :P

Call of Duty inspired by a Call of Duty game. Is this supposed to be a surprise?

well I had a laugh. Rather hilarious to think about it really, as Call of Duty after 4 has basically been expansions. Anyways, I will give it a shot if I get bored of BF3, unlikely as it may be.

Instead of bringing the gameplay of the gameback to cod 4 the should atleast try to make the game more different then the previous cod games.

cod4 multiplayer inspired by cod4? lol wut?

I With fresh games like Battlefield 3 Remmib

I like what I'm hearing, but I would still never buy an Activision game day one.tagyhag

[QUOTE="tagyhag"]I like what I'm hearing, but I would still never buy an Activision game day one.vashkey

[QUOTE="vashkey"][QUOTE="tagyhag"]I like what I'm hearing, but I would still never buy an Activision game day one.tagyhag

That's a dumb reason. In the end, if you want to send a message to Activision, do it by buying the good games and not the bad ones, not by boycoting every product because of the offhand remarks of one guy, Its like choosing to not buy a Ford just because Ford was an anti semite. Its not a good reason.

[QUOTE="tagyhag"][QUOTE="vashkey"] Why?SPYDER0416

That's a dumb reason. In the end, if you want to send a message to Activision, do it by buying the good games and not the bad ones, not by boycoting every product because of the offhand remarks of one guy, Its like choosing to not buy a Ford just because Ford was an anti semite. Its not a good reason.

[QUOTE="vashkey"][QUOTE="tagyhag"]I like what I'm hearing, but I would still never buy an Activision game day one.tagyhag

This not only "discourages the more camper mentality that seems to emerge in the map design of Modern Wafare 2", Infinity Ward creative strategist Robert Bowling told Kotaku - it also "simplifies it so that the less skilled player has less to think about".guy

Less to think about? You mean there was something to think about in the first place :?

[QUOTE="Remmib"]I With fresh games like Battlefield 3 vashkey

Yep, fresh. There hasn't been a Battlefield game is 6 years.

Try again.

I remember I really liked COD4. It was the game that brought me into the FPS genre. I liked Golden Eye but every other FPS I tried-Halo and Unreal are the only ones I remember by name-I didn't like. I remember I bought MW2 excited since I really loved MW. It was fun for a few hours, but after that I started disliking it. IDK if I'd still like COD4 today. Since the day I got COD 4 as a gift, I've played a lot of FPS and multiplayer games. I have a feeling it just wouldn't feel right anymore.

So COD 4 is a good thing I suppose. I'll play MW3 eventually. Pretty much everyone will have it. Whether I buy it or not is a different story.

[QUOTE="vashkey"]

[QUOTE="Remmib"]I With fresh games like Battlefield 3 Remmib

Yep, fresh. There hasn't been a Battlefield game is 6 years.

Try again.

Even if that were true(and it's not) it doesn't change the fact that Battlefield 3 is not fresh.

You guys do see the failed attempt in rationalizing insecurity in this self-justifying message right?

[QUOTE="vashkey"][QUOTE="tagyhag"] Kotick's mentality. They pump out some good games but I could never approve of such a man and it's a shame that good developers are wasted doing his bidding.tagyhag

Yep, fresh. There hasn't been a Battlefield game is 6 years.

Try again.

Remmib

You could put a BF3 disc in a MW3 case, and for the most part all but the hardest of hardcore MW3 vs BF3 types would be hard pressed to notice the difference. BF3 looks like a solid shooter and maybe it'll be better than MW3, but the idea that it's some bastion of innovation and fresh design in the face of the CoD franchise is hi-larious.

To me this is a very good thing. I got into Modern Warfare late but those maps with the exceptions of two or three were much better than Modern Warfare 2. I spent 12 days worth of playing time on Modern Warfare 2 and from what I believe that article says I'll be spending just as much on MW3. The airsupport being reduced and the killstreaks being minimalized is great. The airsupport was way to overpowered and it was stupid how easy you were killed by it. "Oh you're in a building? Doesn't matter. I'll just shoot outside it with an infinite ammo supply and no cooldown period until you die." Also I don't even really like/use most of the killstreaks in MW2. Half are useless unless in very specific situations and no one uses any of the ones that help the team like UAV cause they have it set up to get the stupid (thankfully, I believe, removed) nuke.

[QUOTE="Remmib"]

Yep, fresh. There hasn't been a Battlefield game is 6 years.

Try again.

PBSnipes

You could put a BF3 disc in a MW3 case, and for the most part all but the hardest of hardcore MW3 vs BF3 types would be hard pressed to notice the difference. BF3 looks like a solid shooter and maybe it'll be better than MW3, but the idea that it's some bastion of innovation and fresh design in the face of the CoD franchise is hi-larious.

Lolwat.

BF3 destroys MW3 in every imaginable way. The Battlefield franchise innovated and kept innovating long before the CoD franchise ever did.

BF3 will be something we have not experienced before. It will take BF2 to a completely new and epic level.

[QUOTE="tagyhag"][QUOTE="vashkey"] I'd be shocked if there weren't men just as greedy in every other major game publisher. The guy is misquoted so much it's not even funny though. In the end it's not like he personally has any influence over game development of many of the games at Activision. It's kinda ridiculous that you'd let the existence of one person effect your decision on weather you should purchase a game or not. Every big game publisher has done some bad things in the past, you just gotta look into it. If you're going to let morality drive your purchases I can guarantee you you could find a good excuse not to buy anything.vashkey

[QUOTE="vashkey"][QUOTE="tagyhag"] Not about morality at all, it's personally about the quality of the games at hand. tagyhag

[QUOTE="tagyhag"]

[QUOTE="vashkey"]But you just said that they pump out good games. And that Kotick was the reason you don't buy Activision games. Which is it?vashkey

Yep, fresh. There hasn't been a Battlefield game is 6 years.

Try again.

Remmib

[QUOTE="PBSnipes"]

[QUOTE="Remmib"]

Yep, fresh. There hasn't been a Battlefield game is 6 years.

Try again.

Remmib

You could put a BF3 disc in a MW3 case, and for the most part all but the hardest of hardcore MW3 vs BF3 types would be hard pressed to notice the difference. BF3 looks like a solid shooter and maybe it'll be better than MW3, but the idea that it's some bastion of innovation and fresh design in the face of the CoD franchise is hi-larious.

Lolwat.

BF3 destroys MW3 in every imaginable way. The Battlefield franchise innovated and kept innovating long before the CoD franchise ever did.

BF3 will be something we have not experienced before. It will take BF2 to a completely new and epic level.

I've seen both Battlefield 3 and Modern Warfare 3. Both just look like 2 different styles of the same game. I find a nice way to compare them would be like Zelda WW to TP. Both have different designs, strategies like WW focuses much more on the overworld, while TP focuses more on the dungeons. But you know what both had in common? The same core gameplay. You swipe your sword, solve dungeons etc... MW3 and BF3 just like that. Two different sides of the same coin I guess you could say.

[QUOTE="Remmib"]

Yep, fresh. There hasn't been a Battlefield game is 6 years.

Try again.

TheShadowLord07

Those are both console games / off-shoots of the Battlefield franchise. DICE said it themselves that they are not real BF games.

[QUOTE="Remmib"]

Yep, fresh. There hasn't been a Battlefield game is 6 years.

Try again.

TheShadowLord07

Or Battlefield Heroes, Battlefield Play 4 Free, Battlefield 2142 and Battlefield 2: Modern Combat. Theres really no reason not to count them, they were all from Dice. Selective memory. Still, it's a complete joke to call Battlefield 3 fresh or innovative.

vashkey

And MW3 is?

Those are both console games / off-shoots of the Battlefield franchise. DICE said it themselves that they are not real BF games.

Remmib

[QUOTE="vashkey"]

Or Battlefield Heroes, Battlefield Play 4 Free, Battlefield 2142 and Battlefield 2: Modern Combat. Theres really no reason not to count them, they were all from Dice. Selective memory. Still, it's a complete joke to call Battlefield 3 fresh or innovative.

Remmib

And MW3 is?

[QUOTE="Remmib"]

Those are both console games / off-shoots of the Battlefield franchise. DICE said it themselves that they are not real BF games.

vashkey

This is the only I can find right now.

"DICE's General Manager, Karl Magnus Troedsson has described the upcoming Battlefield 3 as a "real sequel to Battlefield 2."

"We now feel like we are ready to make a real sequel to Battlefield 2."

Link

Soooo MW3 is gonna be just like COD4. I am very surprised.

[QUOTE="vashkey"]

[QUOTE="Remmib"]

Those are both console games / off-shoots of the Battlefield franchise. DICE said it themselves that they are not real BF games.

Remmib

This is the only I can find right now.

"DICE's General Manager, Karl Magnus Troedsson has described the upcoming Battlefield 3 as a "real sequel to Battlefield 2."

"We now feel like we are ready to make a real sequel to Battlefield 2."

Link

That's like hitting a dead end. There's a big demand for the game to be like the 4th one, but then they will be criticized for doing the same game as before. I wonder what they could possibly add or improve if they are bound to repeat the formula. It would be nice if they were to focus more on cooperative MP instead of deathmatch since they are not trying change the game.

Good, CoD 4 had my favorite mp maps from all the CoD games so far. Also hopefully they mean it when they say there will be less focus on air support, killstreaks, and perks.

Uhh hasn't that been the case with every COD game since MW? lol

it also "simplifies it so that the less skilled player has less to think about".

TheShadowLord07

Maybe now they can train monkeys on it to send in Afghanistan.

Sounds good i liked COD 4.

Quite a bit of too little too late here. If people say it really is more similar to COD4, which I still play to this day from time to time, then I might check it out in a steam sale, but probably ot.

[QUOTE="TheShadowLord07"]

[QUOTE="Remmib"]

Yep, fresh. There hasn't been a Battlefield game is 6 years.

Try again.

vashkey