MW3 multiplayer inspired by COD4

[QUOTE="Jebus213"]

[QUOTE="viper-kid"] Done with Cod? even though your blog is dedicated to cod? I doubt thatviper-kid

Ok, I'm done buying CoD.

Till the day you die.

[QUOTE="viper-kid"]

[QUOTE="Jebus213"]

Notice that you've been playing Cod4 for the past 4 years.

timmy00

I'm not going to deny that each games is similar to the previous in some way. (They are) I really don't care though.

A lot of the hate is blind too. Look at the newest CoD elite video. The people in the comment section have no idea what CoD elite is but they still hate on it and post ignorant comments.

Yeah! I agree with yousome of the hate is blind, but some of the hate is justified at times. I seriously don't know why people assume everything in elite is not free.

[QUOTE="viper-kid"][QUOTE="Jebus213"]

Ok, I'm done buying CoD.

Jebus213

Till the day you die.

[QUOTE="Jebus213"]

[QUOTE="viper-kid"] But you are going to spend the rest of life preaching against COD right?viper-kid

Till the day you die.

I love when people think the COD franchise is invincible in sales and that nothing can stop it. People have said the same thing in the past to the Tony Hawk franchise and the Guitar Hero franchise,but look at were they are now.

[QUOTE="timmy00"]

[QUOTE="viper-kid"] Emm Last time I checked you couldn't choose kill streaks, couldn't duel wield guns, could'nt get a nuke, couldn't fly a chopper for kill streak, couldn't use 2 attachments, couldn't use a shogun or machine pistol for secondary weapon and couldn't use elevators in Cod4. Insert coin and try again

super600

I'm not going to deny that each games is similar to the previous in some way. (They are) I really don't care though.

A lot of the hate is blind too. Look at the newest CoD elite video. The people in the comment section have no idea what CoD elite is but they still hate on it and post ignorant comments.

Yeah! I agree with yousome of the hate is blind, but some of the hate is justified at times. I seriously don't know why people assume everything in elite is not free.

I'm just tired of reading comments about things people don't understand. "Battlefield does this for free!" Yeah so does CoD now... "Bungie does this for free with their Halo games!" Yeah so does CoD now...

:P I guess people can't just ignore the optional fee. (Which as for as I know, it only involves something with the DLC and a few thing they haven't spoked about.)

[QUOTE="viper-kid"][QUOTE="Jebus213"]

Till the day you die.

super600

I love when people think the COD franchise is invincible in sales and that nothing can stop. People have said the same thing in the past tothe Tony Hawk franchise and the Guitar Hero franchise,butlook at were they are now.

[QUOTE="super600"]

[QUOTE="viper-kid"] Well so far you are failing since Cod's sales are going sky high. viper-kid

I love when people think the COD franchise is invincible in sales and that nothing can stop. People have said the same thing in the past tothe Tony Hawk franchise and the Guitar Hero franchise,butlook at were they are now.

You said they were sky high, but do you thinkMW3 will sell like crazy like the previous cod's?

imagine death streaks returning ...

one word : Martydom

[QUOTE="super600"]

[QUOTE="timmy00"]I just ignore the people who says it's the same game every year. They obviously don't know what they're talking about.

I'm not going to deny that each games is similar to the previous in some way. (They are) I really don't care though.

A lot of the hate is blind too. Look at the newest CoD elite video. The people in the comment section have no idea what CoD elite is but they still hate on it and post ignorant comments.

timmy00

Yeah! I agree with yousome of the hate is blind, but some of the hate is justified at times. I seriously don't know why people assume everything in elite is not free.

I'm just tired of reading comments about things people don't understand. "Battlefield does this for free!" Yeah so does CoD now... "Bungie does this for free with their Halo games!" Yeah so does CoD now...

:P I guess people can't just ignore the optional fee. (Which as for as I know, it only involves something with the DLC and a few thing they haven't spoked about.)

The problem is that they are currently testing what they can put as free inElite and if lots of people join the beta they may add certain things people may like to have in the actual game for free in the paid section of Elite.

[QUOTE="viper-kid"][QUOTE="super600"]

I love when people think the COD franchise is invincible in sales and that nothing can stop. People have said the same thing in the past tothe Tony Hawk franchise and the Guitar Hero franchise,butlook at were they are now.

super600

You said they were sky high, but do you thinkMW3 will sell like crazy like the previous cod's?

[QUOTE="viper-kid"][QUOTE="Jebus213"]

Till the day you die.

super600

I love when people think the COD franchise is invincible in sales and that nothing can stop it. People have said the same thing in the past to the Tony Hawk franchise and the Guitar Hero franchise,but look at were they are now.

Well to be fair neither of those games were multiplayer focus. Those games were eventually going to die unless the devs found new ways to add new gameplay elements. The MP in COD is what keeps gamers coming back, and its one of the reasons its sales are so high every year.

imagine death streaks returning ...

one word : Martydom

rasengan2552

A lot of things that broke MW2 aren't returning.

Commando, knife lunge range been reduce, OMA, nukes, Noobtube exploits, KS being more supportive than dominating. They're focusing more on run and gun action. (Which I expect from a CoD game.)

whats innovative? WEll, sound quality, gun realism, Destruction 1.0 - 2.0 (micro), pushing graphics further (on the PC obviously), bullet drop, addition of newer vehicles

Ribnarak

None of those are innovations. Battlefield 3 could be a next big evolution in FPS genre, but I wouldn't really call it innovative.

[QUOTE="timmy00"]

[QUOTE="super600"]

Yeah! I agree with yousome of the hate is blind, but some of the hate is justified at times. I seriously don't know why people assume everything in elite is not free.

super600

I'm just tired of reading comments about things people don't understand. "Battlefield does this for free!" Yeah so does CoD now... "Bungie does this for free with their Halo games!" Yeah so does CoD now...

:P I guess people can't just ignore the optional fee. (Which as for as I know, it only involves something with the DLC and a few thing they haven't spoked about.)

The problem is that they are currently testing what they can put as free inElite and if lots of people join the beta they may add certain things people may like to have in the actual game for free in the paid section of Elite.

But didnt that new video say what was free and what was not.... what I got from it was tournaments,DLC, and prizes would be part of the premium membership, and everything else was free.

[QUOTE="super600"]

[QUOTE="viper-kid"] where did I say they are 'invincible'? don't put words in my mouth friend. viper-kid

You said they were sky high, but do you thinkMW3 will sell like crazy like the previous cod's?

I'm looking at the history of Activsion's past sales king. Both of these games at one time were in the phase the COD franchise was in.People thought it was impossible for these games to drop in sales even if Activsion released them a lot.Activsion did just that and the games both rapidly dropped in sales even though the Tony Hawk games experienced a slightly bigger drop then the Guitar Hero games in sales.Activsion tried to revive both games by iinnovating the gameplay in both gamesso people would like them again,but that didn't work and the sales and critcial reception for both franchise went to all time especally for(Tony Hawk).At one point in the Tony Hawk franchise the games in the franchise had in the mid to high ninty's in critcal reviews, butthe critical reception for this franchise has dropped by at least 50% in the last 5 years. I'm not expecting the COD franchise to drop rapidly in review and sales just yet, but don't expect MW3 to get a easy 90% like the other MW games on MC.I expect in the range of 75%-89% for the gameonce all thw reviews are calculated for MW3 later on this year.

[QUOTE="Jebus213"]

[QUOTE="viper-kid"] But you are going to spend the rest of life preaching against COD right?viper-kid

Till the day you die.

So does that make it a quality game?

[QUOTE="rasengan2552"]

imagine death streaks returning ...

one word : Martydom

timmy00

A lot of things that broke MW2 aren't returning.

Commando, knife lunge range been reduce, OMA, nukes, Noobtube exploits, KS being more supportive than dominating. They're focusing more on run and gun action. (Which I expect from a CoD game.)

[QUOTE="viper-kid"][QUOTE="Jebus213"]

Till the day you die.

Jebus213

So does that make it a quality game?

[QUOTE="super600"]

[QUOTE="timmy00"]Yeah I agree that some of the hate is justified. I can also see some people getting tired of hearing about the games (With some of the CoD trolls that posted here. I'm sure you know them. :P) but it's still pretty easy to ignore it.

I'm just tired of reading comments about things people don't understand. "Battlefield does this for free!" Yeah so does CoD now... "Bungie does this for free with their Halo games!" Yeah so does CoD now...

:P I guess people can't just ignore the optional fee. (Which as for as I know, it only involves something with the DLC and a few thing they haven't spoked about.)

GTSaiyanjin2

The problem is that they are currently testing what they can put as free inElite and if lots of people join the beta they may add certain things people may like to have in the actual game for free in the paid section of Elite.

But didnt that new video say what was free and what was not.... what I got from it was tournaments,DLC, and prizes would be part of the premium membership, and everything else was free.

They haven't really said what else could be in the premium section of Elite besides those things. We may not know untl septemer if they change anything inelite, but it depends on the beta's reception by people.

[QUOTE="super600"]

[QUOTE="timmy00"]Yeah I agree that some of the hate is justified. I can also see some people getting tired of hearing about the games (With some of the CoD trolls that posted here. I'm sure you know them. :P) but it's still pretty easy to ignore it.

I'm just tired of reading comments about things people don't understand. "Battlefield does this for free!" Yeah so does CoD now... "Bungie does this for free with their Halo games!" Yeah so does CoD now...

:P I guess people can't just ignore the optional fee. (Which as for as I know, it only involves something with the DLC and a few thing they haven't spoked about.)

GTSaiyanjin2

The problem is that they are currently testing what they can put as free inElite and if lots of people join the beta they may add certain things people may like to have in the actual game for free in the paid section of Elite.

But didnt that new video say what was free and what was not.... what I got from it was tournaments,DLC, and prizes would be part of the premium membership, and everything else was free.

I'm sure the leaderboards stuff will be free. The video thing will probably be free to. They may give a few exclusives to people that pay but that's about it. I highly doubt they'll change it.

[QUOTE="Jebus213"]

[QUOTE="viper-kid"] Well so far you are failing since Cod's sales are going sky high. rasengan2552

So does that make it a quality game?

No it doesn't

[QUOTE="rasengan2552"][QUOTE="Jebus213"]

So does that make it a quality game?

Jebus213

No it doesn't

[QUOTE="timmy00"]

[QUOTE="rasengan2552"]

imagine death streaks returning ...

one word : Martydom

rasengan2552

A lot of things that broke MW2 aren't returning.

Commando, knife lunge range been reduce, OMA, nukes, Noobtube exploits, KS being more supportive than dominating. They're focusing more on run and gun action. (Which I expect from a CoD game.)

Yeah they need to improve the hit detection. It was pretty bad in Black Ops. Though I really only noticed it when I use the Sniper rifles. :P

[QUOTE="timmy00"]

[QUOTE="rasengan2552"]

imagine death streaks returning ...

one word : Martydom

rasengan2552

A lot of things that broke MW2 aren't returning.

Commando, knife lunge range been reduce, OMA, nukes, Noobtube exploits, KS being more supportive than dominating. They're focusing more on run and gun action. (Which I expect from a CoD game.)

I dont think the hit detection is bad, in fact I think its great. Maybe one the consoles I could see it not being as good, since you have the host advantage in those games, and lag depends on how good their connection is. But really I'll go as far I say I've seen plenty of videos on youtube of people complaining about hit detection, only for me to be seeing them miss shots. If you play COD on PC with dedicated servers and players with good ping the hit detection is ace.

[QUOTE="Jebus213"]

[QUOTE="viper-kid"] Well so far you are failing since Cod's sales are going sky high. rasengan2552

So does that make it a quality game?

[QUOTE="vashkey"]

[QUOTE="Ribnarak"]

On the topic of BF3:

it is WAY more innovative than the current COD franchise. DICE is actually talented enough to not just add a few guns, camo's, facepaint, cross hair colour, etc to their games.

it is a direct sequel to BF2. Yes we know bad company 1/2 came out, but those were made solelywith keeping the console on the mind. And if you want ill count them as a part of the battlefield series, but you must agree that what theyve done with their game is absolutely innovative:

whats innovative? WEll, sound quality, gun realism, Destruction 1.0 - 2.0 (micro), pushing graphics further (on the PC obviously), bullet drop, addition of newer vehicles

If someone says that BF is the same as COD in terms of innovation, i would NEVER (andi mean it) take their opinion seriously. Thats just rediculous.

Ribnarak

Strange, I thought MW3 was released in 2007. :?

Strange, I thought MW3 was released in 2007. :?

DroidPhysX

it was 2011 actually.... you must have your times confused with too much time traveling :P

[QUOTE="vashkey"]

[QUOTE="Remmib"]I With fresh games like Battlefield 3 Remmib

Yep, fresh. There hasn't been a Battlefield game is 6 years.

Try again.

[QUOTE="Remmib"]

[QUOTE="vashkey"] Ha, good one. :lol:

xXShortroundXx

Yep, fresh. There hasn't been a Battlefield game is 6 years.

Try again.

I would just like to remember to everyone that about 90% of the staff of infinity wards who made COD4/MW2 are gone. So really, we can't call them IW anymore.jack00

Less to think about? How about less camping and more to think about?? Whenever I get on MW2 and it isn't one of those clan days, I just run around, knife, shoot, and circle a map till there's no tomorrow. Nothing after COD4 has given me reason to go and play COD's multiplayer.

also to add what someone else said

a little too late

they knew the popularity of cod4 back in 2008(since it took a few months for people to like cod4)

yet didnt give it any support, i mean they patched the m16 2 YEARS LATER? like right before mw2 they patchd cod4 a little?

they know what people want, but it aint happening, and the fact that the minds behind cod4 no longer work at IW, they are grasping for straws

black ops was boring as hell, ill admit, but it was the closest to cod4 since

[QUOTE="xXShortroundXx"][QUOTE="Remmib"]

Yep, fresh. There hasn't been a Battlefield game is 6 years.

Try again.

DragonfireXZ95

[QUOTE="wis3boi"][QUOTE="vashkey"] Or Battlefield Heroes, Battlefield Play 4 Free, Battlefield 2142 and Battlefield 2: Modern Combat. Theres really no reason not to count them, they were all from Dice. Selective memory. Still, it's a complete joke to call Battlefield 3 fresh or innovative.

xYamatox

I see you've been drinking the koolaid Dice has been handing out.

If it's from Dice, has Battlefield in the name, plays like Battlefield, it's a Battlefield game. No ifs, ands, or buts about it. Don't be a tool.

So they are saying they copied and paste COD 4 with MW3?

Okay Activison whatever you say, COD 4 was the last good COD game and MW3 can't even compare to it.

[QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"][QUOTE="xXShortroundXx"] I could have sworn I played Bad Company 2 last year, but maybe I am delusional.xXShortroundXx

[QUOTE="xXShortroundXx"]

[QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"] That was a spin off. While maintaining the same kind of gameplay, BF3 will be on a completely different level(the PC version that is) than BC2 was.wis3boi

[QUOTE="PBSnipes"]

[QUOTE="Remmib"]

Yep, fresh. There hasn't been a Battlefield game is 6 years.

Try again.

millerlight89

You could put a BF3 disc in a MW3 case, and for the most part all but the hardest of hardcore MW3 vs BF3 types would be hard pressed to notice the difference. BF3 looks like a solid shooter and maybe it'll be better than MW3, but the idea that it's some bastion of innovation and fresh design in the face of the CoD franchise is hi-larious.

His post does have some merit, however. It seems most of the people hyping BF3 to high heaven are expecting the game to be some revolutionary piece of art, when all we've seen so far is some nice graphics/motion capture, and a crap-ton of scripted destruction sequences...

[QUOTE="xYamatox"]

[QUOTE="wis3boi"] Since BF2 and 2142, no, there havent been actual battlefield games. All the ones released on console were spinoffs of the series and do not contain nearly the same features found in BF1942, BF2, and 2142. It's true, there hasn't been a real BF game in yearsconspirethis

I see you've been drinking the koolaid Dice has been handing out.

If it's from Dice, has Battlefield in the name, plays like Battlefield, it's a Battlefield game. No ifs, ands, or buts about it. Don't be a tool.

The only person here who seems to not understands words would be you. If it was made by Dice, has Battlefield in the name, it's a Battlefield game. Simple.

Despite major changes to the core gameplay (and even removing a ton of features from previous titles), Metroid Prime Other M is still a Metroid game, Killzone 3/Liberation is still a Killzone game, Super Mario Galaxy is still a Mario game, Resident Evil 4 is still a Resident Evil game.

So what makes Battlefield: Bad Company, an FPS that is multiplayer focused, with a focus on vehicle combat, extremely similar cIasses to play as from previous installments, not of the same series as older Battlefield games? I'd really like to know.

[QUOTE="conspirethis"][QUOTE="xYamatox"]

I see you've been drinking the koolaid Dice has been handing out.

If it's from Dice, has Battlefield in the name, plays like Battlefield, it's a Battlefield game. No ifs, ands, or buts about it. Don't be a tool.

xYamatox

The only person here who seems to not understands words would be you. If it was made by Dice, has Battlefield in the name, it's a Battlefield game. Simple.

Despite major changes to the core gameplay (and even removing a ton of features from previous titles), Metroid Prime Other M is still a Metroid game, Killzone 3/Liberation is still a Killzone game, Super Mario Galaxy is still a Mario game, Resident Evil 4 is still a Resident Evil game.

So what makes Battlefield: Bad Company, an FPS that is multiplayer focused, with a focus on vehicle combat, extremely similar cIasses to play as from previous installments, not of the same series as older Battlefield games? I'd really like to know.

Is MW3 more similar to COD2 rather than BLOPS? No? Would it be hated upon if it wasn't the same gamplay as last year, but rather a return to the game that is really know to have made the series shine? This is what's happenin for battlefield. BF3 is more like BF2 and less like BC2.

So was MW2, apparently...

[QUOTE="xYamatox"]

[QUOTE="conspirethis"]How hard is it for you to understand that BATTLEFIELD BAD COMPANY is different than BATTLEFIELD. Are words that strong to you, overshadowing the fact that they have completely different core mechanics? "Oh it says battlefield in part of the title and its made from dice so it must be the same game series!!" Lmao.QQabitmoar

The only person here who seems to not understands words would be you. If it was made by Dice, has Battlefield in the name, it's a Battlefield game. Simple.

Despite major changes to the core gameplay (and even removing a ton of features from previous titles), Metroid Prime Other M is still a Metroid game, Killzone 3/Liberation is still a Killzone game, Super Mario Galaxy is still a Mario game, Resident Evil 4 is still a Resident Evil game.

So what makes Battlefield: Bad Company, an FPS that is multiplayer focused, with a focus on vehicle combat, extremely similar cIasses to play as from previous installments, not of the same series as older Battlefield games? I'd really like to know.

Is MW3 more similar to COD2 rather than BLOPS? No? Would it be hated upon if it wasn't the same gamplay as last year, but rather a return to the game that is really know to have made the series shine? This is what's happenin for battlefield. BF3 is more like BF2 and less like BC2.

The call of duty's we have now still play a lot like COD2 and even the 1st one. The only reason they dont feel much a like is because Call of duty 2 was a much slower game. One it didnt have a spint button, 2nd the guns are much different as many were bolt action guns. What mkes the games so fun are the great responsive controls. One of the complint I've read a lot when call of duty 4 came out that it was just Call of duty with modern guns. Personally I dont see that as a bad thing, as long as the games change enough to warrant a purchase. MW1 to MW2 would have been a good change of pace if it wasn't for IW incompetence and had actually noticed the game was an unbalanced mess. What was even worse they never did anything to fixed its problems.... And on the PC side they did everything you could have done wrong with a PC release.