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#102 AsianG0d
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[QUOTE="AsianG0d"][QUOTE="TREAL_Since"]

[QUOTE="AsianG0d"]Killzone2 looks boring Chutebox

So did Gears until I played it. Now it's still my favorite shooter this gen (tied with COD4).

Anything can "look" a certain way. It looks very satisying and visceral to me. I jus hope they get the enemy layout, A.I., and mission objectives on point. That and bugs killed the first one. Actual shooting was very satisfying in the original.

Gears never looked boring with the chainsaw and the head stomp action

So cool!

I know I sort of feel bad for those that bought a PS3 when the 360 is the system with all the good games and the better online feature

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#103 kostmpekir
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This is easilly one of the least impressive looking hyped games i have seen this gen, it may beat Haze, but even Haze had more stuff around, that is the very definition of EMPTYNESS
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#104 Chutebox
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[QUOTE="Chutebox"][QUOTE="AsianG0d"][QUOTE="TREAL_Since"]

[QUOTE="AsianG0d"]Killzone2 looks boring AsianG0d

So did Gears until I played it. Now it's still my favorite shooter this gen (tied with COD4).

Anything can "look" a certain way. It looks very satisying and visceral to me. I jus hope they get the enemy layout, A.I., and mission objectives on point. That and bugs killed the first one. Actual shooting was very satisfying in the original.

Gears never looked boring with the chainsaw and the head stomp action

So cool!

I know I sort of feel bad for those that bought a PS3 when the 360 is the system with all the good games and the better online feature

Sorry, I should have said I was being sarcastic.

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#106 The-Big-Easy
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This is easilly one of the least impressive looking hyped games i have seen this gen, it may beat Haze, but even Haze had more stuff around, that is the very definition of EMPTYNESSkostmpekir

Have you lems even watched any gameplay footage at all?

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#107 killerfist
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[QUOTE="MojondeVACA"][QUOTE="omus101"]i really wish cows would stop hyping this game. They are acting as if this was the second coming of Jesus Swiftt69



Yeah they hype it only for the graphics,and the graphics are nothing special.

Enjoy your ban, your names a direct violation of the tos.

for those that don't know, MojondeVACA means Cow ****

Cow dung??

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#108 joeychew
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looking good...that is for sure.
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#109 kostmpekir
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[QUOTE="kostmpekir"]This is easilly one of the least impressive looking hyped games i have seen this gen, it may beat Haze, but even Haze had more stuff around, that is the very definition of EMPTYNESSThe-Big-Easy

Have you lems even watched any gameplay footage at all?

Yes, it was EMPTYNESS in motion, so what ?

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#110 killerfist
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[QUOTE="AsianG0d"][QUOTE="Chutebox"][QUOTE="AsianG0d"][QUOTE="TREAL_Since"]

[QUOTE="AsianG0d"]Killzone2 looks boring Swiftt69

So did Gears until I played it. Now it's still my favorite shooter this gen (tied with COD4).

Anything can "look" a certain way. It looks very satisying and visceral to me. I jus hope they get the enemy layout, A.I., and mission objectives on point. That and bugs killed the first one. Actual shooting was very satisfying in the original.

Gears never looked boring with the chainsaw and the head stomp action

So cool!

I know I sort of feel bad for those that bought a PS3 when the 360 is the system with all the good games and the better online feature

I have too say Lemmings are the very definition of annoying and ignorant.

Theres a reason Xbox fanboys are named after one of the dumbest animals in the animal kingdom, can you guess?

and you think cows are smart? Im sorry, Im not bashing the ps3, but I lol'd at your comment:P

lemmings are family of the hamster, and hamsters are cute!

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#111 Eltroz
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[QUOTE="MojondeVACA"][QUOTE="omus101"]i really wish cows would stop hyping this game. They are acting as if this was the second coming of Jesus Swiftt69



Yeah they hype it only for the graphics,and the graphics are nothing special.

Enjoy your ban, your names a direct violation of the tos.

for those that don't know, MojondeVACA means Cow ****

So you reported him? If you are not in school now when you were in school did you run to the teacher everytime someone sad a bad word also?
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#112 Chutebox
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[QUOTE="Swiftt69"]

[QUOTE="MojondeVACA"][QUOTE="omus101"]i really wish cows would stop hyping this game. They are acting as if this was the second coming of Jesus Eltroz



Yeah they hype it only for the graphics,and the graphics are nothing special.

Enjoy your ban, your names a direct violation of the tos.

for those that don't know, MojondeVACA means Cow ****

So you reported him? If you are not in school now when you were in school did you run to the teacher everytime someone sad a bad word also?

Oh don't come out with that **** So many people here run to the mods the second they think they can get anyone for anything. This whole site is a school yard.

Also, I find it funny seeing you quoted in someones sig for hyping Haze.

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#114 The-Big-Easy
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[QUOTE="The-Big-Easy"]

[QUOTE="kostmpekir"]This is easilly one of the least impressive looking hyped games i have seen this gen, it may beat Haze, but even Haze had more stuff around, that is the very definition of EMPTYNESSkostmpekir

Have you lems even watched any gameplay footage at all?

Yes, it was EMPTYNESS in motion, so what ?

OK then, be a blind fanboy. Have fun waiting for Gears 2.

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#115 Eltroz
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[QUOTE="Eltroz"][QUOTE="Swiftt69"]

[QUOTE="MojondeVACA"][QUOTE="omus101"]i really wish cows would stop hyping this game. They are acting as if this was the second coming of Jesus Chutebox



Yeah they hype it only for the graphics,and the graphics are nothing special.

Enjoy your ban, your names a direct violation of the tos.

for those that don't know, MojondeVACA means Cow ****

So you reported him? If you are not in school now when you were in school did you run to the teacher everytime someone sad a bad word also?

Oh don't come out with that **** So many people here run to the mods the second they think they can get anyone for anything. This whole site is a school yard.

Also, I find it funny seeing you quoted in someones sig for hyping Haze.

Just because many do it does not make it right. I swear some people cry to the mods like they were little girls that just had their doll taken away. People on here need to learn to man up a little and not tell all the time. Ahh the good old days when being a snitch was a bad thing. I mean if a person is really being bad and personal that is one thing but we are talking about someone that has a name that means cow poop. Really how does that hurt anyones feelings?

As far as the sig what I said is almost a year old. Oh well I guess for a little bit I bought into the hype and was pretty wrong at that.

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#116 Chutebox
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Just because many do it does not make it right. I swear some people cry to the mods like they were little girls that just had their doll taken away. People on here need to learn to man up a little and not tell all the time. Ahh the good old days when being a snitch was a bad thing. I mean if a person is really being bad and personal that is one thing but we are talking about someone that has a name that means cow poop. Really how does that hurt anyones feelings?

As far as the sig what I said is almost a year old. Oh well I guess for a little bit I bought into the hype and was pretty wrong at that.

Eltroz

I've been modded many times because of people running to the mods. I've even been suspended because they thought I was making fun of them, pisses me off. Anyways, I couldn't care less about the dudes name, I like when people are modded for insults but other than that, it's all good.

And about Haze, I just said it in good fun. Many of us bought into the hype, the demo changed that quickly though.

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#117 DoDGE_R_xz
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it looks good

not sure about the gameplay yet though

I would like to see some variety in the enemies, and also some faces. It seems so "attack of the clones" without faces.

Also, variety in the settings is always a bonus, i can see myself getting bored if every level looks like that

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#118 GnR-SLaSh
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[QUOTE="humber_matus"]

[QUOTE="shoeman12"]cows bash gears all the time for being washed out but this game has even less color than gears. the backgrounds are all grey and brown. only a fanboy couldn't see that.caseypayne69

war needs rainbows!, and you do realise that killzone2 takes place on a different planet.

YOU WANT COLOR?

HAhaha

Ahh that one got me..

That picture *Need a Lift* looks awful!

The rest look beautiful though..

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#119 rgame1
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Last time I paid, I paid for colour TV licence not black and white TV licence. So I can watch colour programmes.
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#120 rgame1
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[QUOTE="EVOLV3"]For the people complaining about lack of colors, last time I checked war usually isnt very colorfull. The fact that this game takes place on a very polluted different planet warzone should make the colors chosen expected.




heretrix
WW2 and Iraq levels confirmed.

wow you just owned yourself. Thats dam colourful. Not alot but nonethless more colour than killzone.

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#121 The-Big-Easy
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Last time I paid, I paid for colour TV licence not black and white TV licence. So I can watch colour programmes.rgame1

Is that the best you can come up with? Poor lem.

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#122 rgame1
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[QUOTE="rgame1"]Last time I paid, I paid for colour TV licence not black and white TV licence. So I can watch colour programmes.The-Big-Easy

Is that the best you can come up with? Poor lem.

*zzzzzz eeeeezzz* Wrong geuss, you want to go for double jeopardy where the stakes get real high?

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#123 caseypayne69
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Why u post the resized doctored screens :lol: ? gotta love cows...MojondeVACA

Resized? I copy pasted the images from a foreign website. No resizing done from me. And why are you claiming doctored do you have proof? please go away lem.

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#124 caseypayne69
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Ok i love to own cows and prove them wrong.the screens are doctored.. why? because they want to hide the jaggies,the low re textures and the pixelation.,and i have proofs since i have the original screens in 720p.

Your doctored screens :



VS

The real direct feed shot 720p :



Right click on the image and copy and paste the link to see real resolution of the screen.MojondeVACA

I copy pasted from a website, just like I said in the previous post.

SOURCE

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#125 Chutebox
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[QUOTE="MojondeVACA"]Ok i love to own cows and prove them wrong.the screens are doctored.. why? because they want to hide the jaggies,the low re textures and the pixelation.,and i have proofs since i have the original screens in 720p.

Your doctored screens :


VS

The real direct feed shot 720p :

Right click on the image and copy and paste the link to see real resolution of the screen.caseypayne69

I copy pasted from a website, just like I said in the previous post.

SOURCE

Those pictures look the same to me too, I don't know what he's on about.

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#126 caseypayne69
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[QUOTE="Nolan16"][QUOTE="justforlotr2004"]

[QUOTE="Nolan16"]lemmings wont admit it but Killzone 2 has the visual edge even though killzone 2 will be twice the game in gameplay.justforlotr2004

Heres what I said in another thread, and it apply's here again.

Textures: Gears 2

Animation: Killzone 2

Character models: Gears 2

Lighting: Killzone 2

Overall I dont think either one totally beats the other. I cant see how anyone could clearly say Killzone 2 looks better or Gears 2 looks better since they both have something on eachother.

Character models gears 2 you must be high Kill zone 2 has awesome character models imo.Far better then gears 2

The Character models in Gears has way more detail on them than in Killzone.

At least the Killzone 2 models look "realistic." The texture use in Gears 1 and 2 while pretty, doesn't look as REAL.

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#127 AsianG0d
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Killzone2 is void of textures
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#128 caseypayne69
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[QUOTE="Nolan16"][QUOTE="justforlotr2004"][QUOTE="Nolan16"]

Lol are you kidding

Imo Kill zone 2 character models look a lot more realistic from a real perspective then Gears of war 2.

justforlotr2004

Thats got to be one of the worst compairsons Ive seen in a while.

theres not many character models on either game you find me one then.

From the latest footage of both.

Theres way more detail on the Gears characters. Dont get me wrong though, they both look great and they both fit well within their art directions.

This is a great comparison. Both look great, but Killzone 2 looks more realistic. Gears 2 looks like great PC graphics while Killzone 2 looks almost like real life at a glance. But this is the direction and the graphics engines at work. Personally I dont like the UT3 engine and how plastic characters look in those games.

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#129 kostmpekir
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I can't see hoe people can compare the emptyness , horrible textures and tiny levels of Killzone 2, to Gears of War 2 vast landscape, with 100x the detail around, the vastly better textures etc etc

GEARS 2

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#130 Chutebox
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I can't see hoe people can compare the emptyness , horrible textures and tiny levels of Killzone 2, to Gears of War 2 vast landscape, with 100x the detail around, the vastly better textures etc etc

GEARS 2

kostmpekir

Tiny levels? You realize the pictures you are posting are from a scripted event right? Nothing smaller in Killzone compared to standing on a small platform in which you can't move.

PS: I just respond to you saolin to amuse myself and past time, just a fyi.

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#131 AsianG0d
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I can't see hoe people can compare the emptyness , horrible textures and tiny levels of Killzone 2, to Gears of War 2 vast landscape, with 100x the detail around, the vastly better textures etc etc

GEARS 2

kostmpekir

You got em there

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#132 Dante2710
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there we go:

just changed the contrast and brightness of the pic, picked a color for the killzone pic ans voila....there is ur gray of war 2

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#133 kostmpekir
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[QUOTE="kostmpekir"]

I can't see hoe people can compare the emptyness , horrible textures and tiny levels of Killzone 2, to Gears of War 2 vast landscape, with 100x the detail around, the vastly better textures etc etc

GEARS 2

Chutebox

Tiny levels? You realize the pictures you are posting are from a scripted event right? Nothing smaller in Killzone compared to standing on a small platform in which you can't move.

PS: I just respond to you saolin to amuse myself and past time, just a fyi.

So, just because you move on a ship, you are going to "forget" all the breath taking stunningly detailed 100x bigger than KZ2 landscape around you ?

Get real, the landscape is there and you do move through, just in a ship, that does not make it smaller

You ergument is laughable at best

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#134 Chutebox
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[QUOTE="Chutebox"][QUOTE="kostmpekir"]

I can't see hoe people can compare the emptyness , horrible textures and tiny levels of Killzone 2, to Gears of War 2 vast landscape, with 100x the detail around, the vastly better textures etc etc

GEARS 2

kostmpekir

Tiny levels? You realize the pictures you are posting are from a scripted event right? Nothing smaller in Killzone compared to standing on a small platform in which you can't move.

PS: I just respond to you saolin to amuse myself and past time, just a fyi.

So, just because you move on a ship, you are going to "forget" all the breath taking stunningly detailed 100x bigger than KZ2 landscape around you ?

Get real, the landscape is there and you do move through, just in a ship, that does not make it smaller

You ergument is laughable at best

My "ergument" completely flew over your head and you continue to ignore the obvious.

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#135 kostmpekir
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My "ergument" completely flew over your head and you continue to ignore the obvious. Chutebox

Your argument is laughable at best, all i see is 10x the detail, scale and texturing in those Gears 2 pics, KZ2 looks like a blurry, low res textured, tiny in levels and enemies on screen, with zero detail around game comparing

PS3 harwdare is really pathetic, and it 100% shows in those less than mediocre KZ2 pics of low res textures and emptyness

After Gears 2 pics were out, KZ2 visuals became a HUGE fail for me or epic proportions

But i understand that people that hyped that garbage imo looking title for so long, can't back now

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#136 AsianG0d
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[QUOTE="Chutebox"]My "ergument" completely flew over your head and you continue to ignore the obvious. kostmpekir

Your argument is laughable at best, all i see is 10x the detail, scale and texturing in those Gears 2 pics, KZ2 looks like a blurry, low res textured, tiny in levels and enemies on screen, with zero detail around game comparing

PS3 harwdare is really pathetic, and it 100% shows in those less than mediocre KZ2 pics of low res textures and emptyness

After Gears 2 pics were out, KZ2 visuals became a HUGE fail for me or epic proportions

But i understand that people that hyped that garbage imo looking title for so long, can't back now

He shoots, He scores!

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#137 caseypayne69
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[QUOTE="kostmpekir"][QUOTE="Chutebox"][QUOTE="kostmpekir"]

I can't see hoe people can compare the emptyness , horrible textures and tiny levels of Killzone 2, to Gears of War 2 vast landscape, with 100x the detail around, the vastly better textures etc etc

GEARS 2

Chutebox

Tiny levels? You realize the pictures you are posting are from a scripted event right? Nothing smaller in Killzone compared to standing on a small platform in which you can't move.

PS: I just respond to you saolin to amuse myself and past time, just a fyi.

So, just because you move on a ship, you are going to "forget" all the breath taking stunningly detailed 100x bigger than KZ2 landscape around you ?

Get real, the landscape is there and you do move through, just in a ship, that does not make it smaller

You ergument is laughable at best

My "ergument" completely flew over your head and you continue to ignore the obvious.

I see what you are saying, being as that level you can only move 10 feet on a ship. Which should make graphics easier to process since the player wont be running out in the tree's. Sorta like Gears 2 in that seen is a "RAIL SHOOTER" GASP did I just say that?

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#138 Chutebox
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[QUOTE="Chutebox"]My "ergument" completely flew over your head and you continue to ignore the obvious. kostmpekir

Your argument is laughable at best, all i see is 10x the detail, scale and texturing in those Gears 2 pics, KZ2 looks like a blurry, low res textured, tiny in levels and enemies on screen, with zero detail around game comparing

PS3 harwdare is really pathetic, and it 100% shows in those less than mediocre KZ2 pics of low res textures and emptyness

After Gears 2 pics were out, KZ2 visuals became a HUGE fail for me or epic proportions

But i understand that people that hyped that garbage imo looking title for so long, can't back now

Lol Soalin, stick to Fable 2.

I'd ask if you've even looked at videos of Killzone 2, but I already know the answer.

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#139 caseypayne69
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Something people should remember.

Killzone 2 and Gears 2 character models are both loved. Some people like both. But remember while some can't seam to pick which they like more, Killzone 2 has BETTER animations and lighting going on. Hence in motion it SMOKES Gears 2. On top of this we know Killzone 2 is Native 720, but we don't know if Gears 2 is even this. It could be 600p or 640 680p.

Killzone 2 is the graphics showcase to beat now, not Gears 2.

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#140 IgorVitaly
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Wow Gears 2 definitely looks better overall. KZ2 comes out as a blurry mediocre detailed game, wilst those Gears 2 screenshots shows high detail in Riddick movie style.

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#141 phatrawk
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Something people should remember.

Killzone 2 and Gears 2 character models are both loved. Some people like both. But remember while some can't seam to pick which they like more, Killzone 2 has BETTER animations and lighting going on. Hence in motion it SMOKES Gears 2. On top of this we know Killzone 2 is Native 720, but we don't know if Gears 2 is even this. It could be 600p or 640 680p.

Killzone 2 is the graphics showcase to beat now, not Gears 2.

caseypayne69

Are the 360 and PS3 fanboys still arguing over second best? Wii whips them both in sales, and Crysis strength-punches both these games off the island (and hey, you can already play it!).

Instead of playing the graphics or sales card, you should be playing the "immesion" or "gameplay" cards.

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#142 karram
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Both games looks amazing no doubt but I'll wait till I play both and then I can say which one looks better.
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#143 kostmpekir
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Wow Gears 2 definitely looks better overall. KZ2 comes out as a blurry mediocre detailed game, wilst those Gears 2 screenshots shows high detail in Riddick movie style.

IgorVitaly

Exactly what i see too, i mean you have to be crazy to say KZ2 looks even passable comparing to Gear 2 pics

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#144 SpruceCaboose
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Like I said in the other thread with the same pictures, Killzone 2 looks good, so does GeoW 2. Neither are in my "visually appealing" pile, since I love games with brighter colors, a la LittleBigPlanet, Halo 3, Viva Pinata, Super Mario Galaxy, Ratchet & Clank, Uncharted, BioShock.

However, it does look really good from a technical perspective, and I will be buying both KZ2 and GeoW 2. I just hope KZ2 provides the excitement and playability that early reviews suggest. I just want a fun shooter out of it. Nothing mind blowing, just solid and I will be happy.

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#145 thrones
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[QUOTE="IgorVitaly"]

Wow Gears 2 definitely looks better overall. KZ2 comes out as a blurry mediocre detailed game, wilst those Gears 2 screenshots shows high detail in Riddick movie style.

kostmpekir

Exactly what i see too, i mean you have to be crazy to say KZ2 looks even passable comparing to Gear 2 pics

You have to be crazy to be considering either of them blows any of them out of the park.

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#146 thegoldenpoo
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is it me or are we starting to see what killzone 2 REALLY looks like.... all the most recent shots look much worse but would definately seem to be in-engine. i guess this happens when you stop using cgi or touching up your shots.
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#147 kostmpekir
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[QUOTE="kostmpekir"][QUOTE="IgorVitaly"]

Wow Gears 2 definitely looks better overall. KZ2 comes out as a blurry mediocre detailed game, wilst those Gears 2 screenshots shows high detail in Riddick movie style.

thrones

Exactly what i see too, i mean you have to be crazy to say KZ2 looks even passable comparing to Gear 2 pics

You have to be crazy to be considering either of them blows any of them out of the park.

That has to be a joke, Gears 2 CLEARLY destroys KZ2 in scale, textures, enemies on screen, detail around, etc

It DESTROYS it, not just surpasses it imo

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#148 thrones
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[QUOTE="thrones"][QUOTE="kostmpekir"][QUOTE="IgorVitaly"]

Wow Gears 2 definitely looks better overall. KZ2 comes out as a blurry mediocre detailed game, wilst those Gears 2 screenshots shows high detail in Riddick movie style.

kostmpekir

Exactly what i see too, i mean you have to be crazy to say KZ2 looks even passable comparing to Gear 2 pics

You have to be crazy to be considering either of them blows any of them out of the park.

That has to be a joke, Gears 2 CLEARLY destroys KZ2 in scale, textures, enemies on screen, detail around, etc

It DESROTYS it, not just surpasses it imo

Not because you're a well known fanboy or anything? You wouldn't be having debates like this if one totally destroyed the other.

is it me or are we starting to see what killzone 2 REALLY looks like.... all the most recent shots look much worse but would definately seem to be in-engine. i guess this happens when you stop using cgi or touching up your shots. thegoldenpoo

Check out the Live Gameplay footage :|

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#149 LosDaddie
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[QUOTE="stephant_6"]That's right. Take that Gears of Rehash 1.5!Eltroz
A rehash of a game that won GOTY what will the 360 users ever do? At least better then a rehash of a game that could not even score a "A" :)

:lol: Ownage approved!

It seems cows forget how succssful GEOW1 was. It's ok, cows will be reminded come Nov.:D

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#150 LordoftheVacas
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Something people should remember.

Killzone 2 and Gears 2 character models are both loved. Some people like both. But remember while some can't seam to pick which they like more, Killzone 2 has BETTER animations and lighting going on. Hence in motion it SMOKES Gears 2. On top of this we know Killzone 2 is Native 720, but we don't know if Gears 2 is even this. It could be 600p or 640 680p.

Killzone 2 is the graphics showcase to beat now, not Gears 2.

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Yes we know is 720p no AA,for some odd reason UE3 doesnt use AA.