N64 has better Nintendo games than Wii? BULL

You're missing the simple fact that the Gamecube had the strongest overall library of Nintendo games.

• Metroid Prime 1 and 2 (better than MP3)
• Wind Waker (better than Twilight Princess)
• Twilight Princess (better than the Wii version)
• Smash Bros Melee (better than Brawl)
• Animal Crossing (better than City Folk because it was fresh and hadn't been rehashed yet)
• Star Fox Adventures (better than no Star Fox, and really a very good game IMO)
• Pikmin 1 and 2 (better than no Pikmin)
• Pokemon Colosseum (better than whatever that stupid Wii Pokemon game was)
• F-Zero GX (I haven't played it myself, but it's better than no F-Zero)
• Paper Mario: The Thousand Year Door (haven't played it, but I know it's considered better than the Wii game)
• Mario Kart: Double Dash (ditto)
• Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance (ditto)

Without having played Skyward Sword yet, it seems to me that the GC beat or equaled the Wii in each franchise except Mario (and maybe Kirby?)

[QUOTE="GD1551"]

[QUOTE="sanim02"]

Well isn't that great? Cuz I do see a 10 somewhere in there too... Alas, maybe I need glasses or some sh!t.:lol:

sanim02

I see a 10 for the 64 as well.

I also see a 9.5 and GOTY in the Wii selection too, but hey let's not count that as well.:)

Same for the 64, except it had 9.8 and 9.9 to boot :)

You forgot wave64 race

Punch Out, aka an IP that was practically non-existant for the last what, nearly 2 decades? In that case, I should also remove F Zero since god knows what reason?

Also I said I wasn't going to name games by RARE since obvious RARE was the main GOD of the N64 and everyone clings to it when talking about how the "nintendo was teh best on teh 64!".:P Retro is owned by Nintendo anyways, but sure I still mentioned DK64, it's not like I completly flew over it, I just avoided to list it because it was by Rare.

sanim02

Rares games are a huge reason people say the 64 is better, why would you leave them out???

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[QUOTE="theuncharted34"]

Might as well take off Twilight Princess, since that's basically a gamecube game with waggle dumped on it for the wii version.

Also Paper Mario and Majora's Mask alone beat out anything on the Wii.

And just saying, when you factor in Rareware for the N64 it absolutely obliterates the Wii.

theuncharted34

Really now? Two games? Alright then, because I can say the same as to how Galaxy 2 destroys anything on the N64 as well.:| Oh and Rareware? A second party studio that I made sure to disregard since they aren't Nintendo in the OP? Helps I guess since that's all what Nintendo really banked on during that console era anyways.:?

Yeah, 2 absolute masterpieces.

Making a list of Nintendo only games only has the goal of making the N64's overall library look worse, anyways.

So yeah I brought up Rareware.

People say Nintendo games on the N64 were better than those on the Wii, so it looking worse for the N64 isn't my fault.:lol: Also 2 masterpieces? Sure, I friggin' love the Galaxy's absolute masterpieces as well.:)

i have purchased every nintendo console except virtual boy and wii.

Id rank wii as being as big of a gimmick as virtual boy ill never buy one.

n64 was nintendo's last hurrah for the hardcore crowd.

[QUOTE="sanim02"]

[QUOTE="GD1551"]

I see a 10 for the 64 as well.

GD1551

I also see a 9.5 and GOTY in the Wii selection too, but hey let's not count that as well.:)

Same for the 64, except it had 9.8 and 9.9 to boot :)

Thanks for those Nintendo made games broseph!:D ... Woops.:(

Thanks for those Nintendo made games broseph!:D ... Woops.:(

sanim02

Ok it has a 9.4 and 9.5 as well.

You're missing the simple fact that the Gamecube had the strongest overall library of Nintendo games.

• Metroid Prime 1 and 2 (better than MP3)
• Wind Waker (better than Twilight Princess)
• Twilight Princess (better than the Wii version)
• Smash Bros Melee (better than Brawl)
• Animal Crossing (better than City Folk because it was fresh and hadn't been rehashed yet)
• Star Fox Adventures (better than no Star Fox, and really a very good game IMO)
• Pikmin 1 and 2 (better than no Pikmin)
• Pokemon Colosseum (better than whatever that stupid Wii Pokemon game was)
• F-Zero GX (I haven't played it myself, but it's better than no F-Zero)
• Paper Mario: The Thousand Year Door (haven't played it, but I know it's considered better than the Wii game)
• Mario Kart: Double Dash (ditto)
• Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance (ditto)

Without having played Skyward Sword yet, it seems to me that the GC beat or equaled the Wii in each franchise except Mario (and maybe Kirby?)

Cherokee_Jack

I know, I was just refering to the Wii as that's I've been reading around here lately.:P I'd say Nintendo's offerings on the GC and Wii are really strong and better than that of the N64.:)

[QUOTE="theuncharted34"]

[QUOTE="sanim02"]

Really now? Two games? Alright then, because I can say the same as to how Galaxy 2 destroys anything on the N64 as well.:| Oh and Rareware? A second party studio that I made sure to disregard since they aren't Nintendo in the OP? Helps I guess since that's all what Nintendo really banked on during that console era anyways.:?

sanim02

Yeah, 2 absolute masterpieces.

Making a list of Nintendo only games only has the goal of making the N64's overall library look worse, anyways.

So yeah I brought up Rareware.

People say Nintendo games on the N64 were better than those on the Wii, so it looking worse for the N64 isn't my fault.:lol: Also 2 masterpieces? Sure, I friggin' love the Galaxy's absolute masterpieces as well.:)

Galaxy 2 might be a masterpiece, but the first isn't. Still an incredible game though.

So 2 > 1. :twisted:

:P

All those games are over 10 years old and the new games wouldn't even exist if it wasn't for them. Honestly, I would really hope Nintendo would have better games than their n64 counter parts when compared with each other now.

Its the fact that so many of those were completely new and original. Even Mario didn't resemble anything like he had in the past on the n64. So that is one reason why people may feel that way. The n64 games had a bigger impact on the game industry than anything the wii's non casual titles did.

It also sucks that Nintendo has NOBODY like Rare any more. Sure Retro is awesome, but they only output about like 1/4 the content rare put out. They had multiple development branches and put out stellar games at the time. On IGN, I think Rare ALONE put out SEVEN AAAe games in a 5 year span. That is INSANE.

Perfect dark is better than anything on wii.

GD1551

You're missing the simple fact that the Gamecube had the strongest overall library of Nintendo games.

• Metroid Prime 1 and 2 (better than MP3)
• Wind Waker (better than Twilight Princess)
• Twilight Princess (better than the Wii version)
• Smash Bros Melee (better than Brawl)
• Animal Crossing (better than City Folk because it was fresh and hadn't been rehashed yet)
• Star Fox Adventures (better than no Star Fox, and really a very good game IMO)
• Pikmin 1 and 2 (better than no Pikmin)
• Pokemon Colosseum (better than whatever that stupid Wii Pokemon game was)
• F-Zero GX (I haven't played it myself, but it's better than no F-Zero)
• Paper Mario: The Thousand Year Door (haven't played it, but I know it's considered better than the Wii game)
• Mario Kart: Double Dash (ditto)
• Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance (ditto)

Without having played Skyward Sword yet, it seems to me that the GC beat or equaled the Wii in each franchise except Mario (and maybe Kirby?)

Cherokee_Jack

mario kart 64 is the last good mario kart the go karts look too dorky in the newer titles and tracks suck.

/ facepalm

The biggest problem i have here in SW and gamers in general is that they believe a huge amount of games is all that matters, yet they forget about the core experience. The core experience from one revolutionary amazing game trumps any amount of exclusives, multiplats, etc. A game like this will make you want explore everything in the world and unlock everything till you milk the experience dry. It has nothing to do with its "score." Saying that 10 solid games are better then 1 amazing because they give you 10x the playtime means squat, because those 10 other games won't give you the same enjoyment that 1 game did.

[QUOTE="GD1551"]

Perfect dark is better than anything on wii.

nintendoboy16

mario gallaxy is trash the artstyle and level design is trash camera angles suck too.

[QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"]

You're missing the simple fact that the Gamecube had the strongest overall library of Nintendo games.

• Metroid Prime 1 and 2 (better than MP3)
• Wind Waker (better than Twilight Princess)
• Twilight Princess (better than the Wii version)
• Smash Bros Melee (better than Brawl)
• Animal Crossing (better than City Folk because it was fresh and hadn't been rehashed yet)
• Star Fox Adventures (better than no Star Fox, and really a very good game IMO)
• Pikmin 1 and 2 (better than no Pikmin)
• Pokemon Colosseum (better than whatever that stupid Wii Pokemon game was)
• F-Zero GX (I haven't played it myself, but it's better than no F-Zero)
• Paper Mario: The Thousand Year Door (haven't played it, but I know it's considered better than the Wii game)
• Mario Kart: Double Dash (ditto)
• Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance (ditto)

Without having played Skyward Sword yet, it seems to me that the GC beat or equaled the Wii in each franchise except Mario (and maybe Kirby?)

heeeeeeeeeweeee

mario kart 64 is the last good mario kart the go karts look too dorky in the newer titles and tracks suck.

Mario Kart 64 was ****.

Crash Team Racing >>>>>>>>>>>> Mario Kart 64. Same with Mario Kart Wii, but Double Dash was awesome.

I think that Mario Kart 7 looks better than all of them, actually.

Marios almost as big as the planets in mario galaxy lol the levels are too small man that game blows serious ass.

You're missing the simple fact that the Gamecube had the strongest overall library of Nintendo games.

• Metroid Prime 1 and 2 (better than MP3)
• Wind Waker (better than Twilight Princess)
• Twilight Princess (better than the Wii version)
• Smash Bros Melee (better than Brawl)
• Animal Crossing (better than City Folk because it was fresh and hadn't been rehashed yet)
• Star Fox Adventures (better than no Star Fox, and really a very good game IMO)
• Pikmin 1 and 2 (better than no Pikmin)
• Pokemon Colosseum (better than whatever that stupid Wii Pokemon game was)
• F-Zero GX (I haven't played it myself, but it's better than no F-Zero)
• Paper Mario: The Thousand Year Door (haven't played it, but I know it's considered better than the Wii game)
• Mario Kart: Double Dash (ditto)
• Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance (ditto)

Without having played Skyward Sword yet, it seems to me that the GC beat or equaled the Wii in each franchise except Mario (and maybe Kirby?)

Cherokee_Jack

mario sunshine is kinda underrated if i remember right u can use ur water cannon as a jetpack that owns that felt more like a real mario game.

I hate mario gallaxy because it feels like on duke nukem forever when u get shrunk by the shirk ray except on gallaxy the levels are still small as hell.

The N64 owns the Wii... HARD.

I'd say Nintendo's offerings on the GC and Wii are really strong and better than that of the N64.:)sanim02

[QUOTE="TrapJak"]

Nah.... :|.

N64 stilll has better games.

sanim02

Your wrong brah.TheGuardian03

I like these responses and all, but it would be nice to get some objectivity in here.::D

The Wii does have the better version of Mario, but only Galaxy. Paper Mario is better than SPM.

OoT and MM are both better than TP. SS is awesome, but not awesome enough to redeem TP.

The N64 DK is also better than DKC.

Diddy Kong Racing. Nuff Said.

Perfect Dark is still better than most games,

I'd go deeper, but you get my point. All in my opinion, of course.

[QUOTE="GD1551"]

Perfect dark is better than anything on wii.

Stevo_the_gamer

I've always felt that the N64 is a bit overrated when compared to other Nintendo systems. I'm not going to deny that they system did some innovative things, and the games were good for their time, but have many of them are still any good years later? NES and SNES games have stood the test of time and those two systems are far more important and successful then the N64.

As for the Gamecube and Wii, I feel that they are much better systems then the N64.

I laugh when people call the N64 the "greatest Nintendo system of all time." While it might be a valid argument if the N64 is compared to the Wii or Gamecube, the N64 can't hold a candle to the SNES or NES.

I respect the N64 for what it did, and it does have some excellent games. But compared to the SNES and NES, it falls way short.

Perfect dark is better than anything on wii.

GD1551

[QUOTE="sanim02"]

[QUOTE="TrapJak"]

[QUOTE="TheGuardian03"]Your wrong brah.TrapJak

I like these responses and all, but it would be nice to get some objectivity in here.::D

The Wii does have the better version of Mario, but only Galaxy. Paper Mario is better than SPM.

OoT and MM are both better than TP. SS is awesome, but not awesome enough to redeem TP.

The N64 DK is also better than DKC.

Diddy Kong Racing. Nuff Said.

Perfect Dark is still better than most games,

I'd go deeper, but you get my point. All in my opinion, of course.

I knew Sanim forgot something :evil: :P

Lemme just say that, these days OOT runs on pure nostalgia and has aged horribly. I loved it back in the day and what it's done for the industry, but wow is it crap now. Same thing for Perfect Dark only worse. MUCH worse.

And Twilight Princess is actually the best Zelda in many aspects. Like the items and level design for one.

I respectfully disagree.

First off my favorite game of all time is Majora's Mask, so there's that.

But most importantly, everything was much fresher on the N64, while the wii struggles to innovate. Most of the wii's best games don't even use the motion sensing. Plus on your list you forgot some key games, notably 2nd party games.

-Paper Mario

-Smash Bros

-Banjo Kazooie

-BK2 -Blast Corps

-Body Harvest

-Goldeneye -Jet Force Gemini

and yeah, sorry but these count. Made with help by nintendo under nintendo's direction. If you're going to count Xenoblade on the wii you got to include the 2nd party stuff. also I agree that GC>> Wii. This is a close one but the GC had some incredible stuff.

The N64 owns the Wii... HARD.

HalcyonScarlet

[QUOTE="HalcyonScarlet"]

The N64 owns the Wii... HARD.

bobcheeseball

Sarcasm? Damn, don't know if i'll be able to make it through the night :|.

[QUOTE="bobcheeseball"][QUOTE="HalcyonScarlet"]

The N64 owns the Wii... HARD.

HalcyonScarlet

Sarcasm? Damn, don't know if i'll be able to make it through the night :|.

You're missing the simple fact that the Gamecube had the strongest overall library of Nintendo games.

• Metroid Prime 1 and 2 (better than MP3)
• Wind Waker (better than Twilight Princess)
• Twilight Princess (better than the Wii version)
• Smash Bros Melee (better than Brawl)
• Animal Crossing (better than City Folk because it was fresh and hadn't been rehashed yet)
• Star Fox Adventures (better than no Star Fox, and really a very good game IMO)
• Pikmin 1 and 2 (better than no Pikmin)
• Pokemon Colosseum (better than whatever that stupid Wii Pokemon game was)
• F-Zero GX (I haven't played it myself, but it's better than no F-Zero)
• Paper Mario: The Thousand Year Door (haven't played it, but I know it's considered better than the Wii game)
• Mario Kart: Double Dash (ditto)
• Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance (ditto)

Without having played Skyward Sword yet, it seems to me that the GC beat or equaled the Wii in each franchise except Mario (and maybe Kirby?)

Cherokee_Jack

Yeah that is my biggest issue with Nintendo's wii games..Almost every one feels like a step backwards in some regards other than Mario who clearly got better. And the biggest benefit of the N64 was that they were original. Smash Bros. was a totally new concept, Mario radically changed himself going into 3D, Zelda was just a total revolation and then spun that revolution on its head with Majoras mask. And then gc took the n64 games and improved upon them, then the wii came alone and took those games and made them easier to play.

I respectfully disagree.

First off my favorite game of all time is Majora's Mask, so there's that.

But most importantly, everything was much fresher on the N64, while the wii struggles to innovate. Most of the wii's best games don't even use the motion sensing. Plus on your list you forgot some key games, notably 2nd party games.

-Paper Mario

-Smash Bros

-Banjo Kazooie

-BK2 -Blast Corps

-Body Harvest

-Goldeneye -Jet Force Gemini

and yeah, sorry but these count. Made with help by nintendo under nintendo's direction. If you're going to count Xenoblade on the wii you got to include the 2nd party stuff. also I agree that GC>> Wii. This is a close one but the GC had some incredible stuff.

GunSmith1_basic

You're missing the simple fact that the Gamecube had the strongest overall library of Nintendo games.

• Metroid Prime 1 and 2 (better than MP3)
• Wind Waker (better than Twilight Princess)
• Twilight Princess (better than the Wii version)
• Smash Bros Melee (better than Brawl)
• Animal Crossing (better than City Folk because it was fresh and hadn't been rehashed yet)
• Star Fox Adventures (better than no Star Fox, and really a very good game IMO)
• Pikmin 1 and 2 (better than no Pikmin)
• Pokemon Colosseum (better than whatever that stupid Wii Pokemon game was)
• F-Zero GX (I haven't played it myself, but it's better than no F-Zero)
• Paper Mario: The Thousand Year Door (haven't played it, but I know it's considered better than the Wii game)
• Mario Kart: Double Dash (ditto)
• Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance (ditto)

Without having played Skyward Sword yet, it seems to me that the GC beat or equaled the Wii in each franchise except Mario (and maybe Kirby?)

Cherokee_Jack

It's impossible to compare seeing as it's hard to take the initial impact of the N64 games into account. Games such as Super Mario 64 and Mario Kart 64 are hopelessly outdated nowadays, and the 3D games from that era didn't really age well in general, but back then, these games blew us (or at least me) away.

I still remember the first time I played Super Mario 64, and it left me in absolute awe. The same goes for Ocarina of Time; never had I experienced such freedom in a game. Of course, by today's standards, these games have been outclassed in just about every department, but it took an evolutionary process of many years to get to this point. Super Mario Galaxy 1 & 2 are amazing games, but they didn't have the same impact on me as SM64. Whether this was due to me being more easily impressed back in those days or due to the fact that it was the first full-blown 3D game I played, I don't know.

The same goes for games such as Mario Kart Wii and Super Smash Bros. Brawl. These games make their N64 counterparts look pretty pathetic in terms of both gameplay and content, but again, it's hard to judge which games were more impressive at the time of release.

I guess you could say that the N64 games pioneered concepts that we still enjoy today, but that on the GC and Wii, these concepts were expanded, improved and perfectionised to an impressive degree. It's impossible to tell which games will invoke the fondest memories in, say, 10 years, but I'm pretty positive that the impact of the N64 gaming library will prove to have had the biggest impact.

Mario Kart 64 was ****.

Crash Team Racing >>>>>>>>>>>> Mario Kart 64.theuncharted34

And Diddy Kong Racing >>>>>> both of them.

I'm going to have to agree. Everything releated to first party on the Wii has been equal to if not better than anything Nintendo put out on the N64. The love the N64 gets nowadays is all from nostalgia. Nintendo still has the talent to produce great games and they've proved it time and time again this gen.

[QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"]

You're missing the simple fact that the Gamecube had the strongest overall library of Nintendo games.

• Metroid Prime 1 and 2 (better than MP3)
• Wind Waker (better than Twilight Princess)
• Twilight Princess (better than the Wii version)
• Smash Bros Melee (better than Brawl)
• Animal Crossing (better than City Folk because it was fresh and hadn't been rehashed yet)
• Star Fox Adventures (better than no Star Fox, and really a very good game IMO)
• Pikmin 1 and 2 (better than no Pikmin)
• Pokemon Colosseum (better than whatever that stupid Wii Pokemon game was)
• F-Zero GX (I haven't played it myself, but it's better than no F-Zero)
• Paper Mario: The Thousand Year Door (haven't played it, but I know it's considered better than the Wii game)
• Mario Kart: Double Dash (ditto)
• Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance (ditto)

Without having played Skyward Sword yet, it seems to me that the GC beat or equaled the Wii in each franchise except Mario (and maybe Kirby?)

VendettaRed07

Yeah that is my biggest issue with Nintendo's wii games..Almost every one feels like a step backwards in some regards other than Mario who clearly got better. And the biggest benefit of the N64 was that they were original. Smash Bros. was a totally new concept, Mario radically changed himself going into 3D, Zelda was just a total revolation and then spun that revolution on its head with Majoras mask. And then gc took the n64 games and improved upon them, then the wii came alone and took those games and made them easier to play.

[QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"]

You're missing the simple fact that the Gamecube had the strongest overall library of Nintendo games.

• Metroid Prime 1 and 2 (better than MP3)
• Wind Waker (better than Twilight Princess)
• Twilight Princess (better than the Wii version)
• Smash Bros Melee (better than Brawl)
• Animal Crossing (better than City Folk because it was fresh and hadn't been rehashed yet)
• Star Fox Adventures (better than no Star Fox, and really a very good game IMO)
• Pikmin 1 and 2 (better than no Pikmin)
• Pokemon Colosseum (better than whatever that stupid Wii Pokemon game was)
• F-Zero GX (I haven't played it myself, but it's better than no F-Zero)
• Paper Mario: The Thousand Year Door (haven't played it, but I know it's considered better than the Wii game)
• Mario Kart: Double Dash (ditto)
• Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance (ditto)

Without having played Skyward Sword yet, it seems to me that the GC beat or equaled the Wii in each franchise except Mario (and maybe Kirby?)

locopatho

I still enjoyed my N64 miles more than I will ever enjoy the Wii.charizard1605

Maybe you're just becoming cynical?

The Wii is junk and the N64 is junk. There, now that this is settled i'll be going now.

but before I go just wanted to say the Wii sucks and the N64 sucks. But, good job on getting Xenoblade over to the US. Maybe if I get a Wii U i'll play Xenoblade.

Wii has a stronger first party lineup than N64 no doubt.

But if you consider their N64 lineup, which includes all Rare games, it's actually close to Wii's given that we compare them in terms of "for their time". Most N64 games are unplayable today, but back then games like SM64, OoT and GoldenEye basically defined 3D gaming on consoles. Banjo Kazooie and Perfect Dark perfected the gameplay introduced in the previously released games.

Seriously, There are alot of 9-10 games on N64 from Nintendo (which includes Rare).

Come on. Paper Mario, Goldeneye, Ocarina, Smash Bros., Mario kart 64, Majora's Mask, Banjo 1+2, conker..... it's incredible.