New Counter Strike: Global Offensive

[QUOTE="Wasdie"][QUOTE="organic_machine"]I'll get it day one since CS:S is my favorite MP FPS, despite its near impenitrable difficult curve (I played some last night and played some really talented people. I'm pretty good I think, but I got destroyed even after years of playing). However I'm a bit worried how ramped down the difficulty is. CS 1.6 was really challenging, CS:S was less challenging but still quite amazing, but the sound of this game so far sounds really easy. They keyword is sounds, though. Even if it is much less challenging, it will still be good. But I wonder how much less extreme does it have to be for me to not enjoy it.organic_machine

Well, the hit boxes are bigger in CS:S and the recoild is much less than what it was in CS 1.6. I have recently had some really epic matches of CS:S, but I am always rock bottom when I attempt to play CS 1.6. Granted, Valve always listens to feedback and I am so excited for CS GO.

Also, on a side note, we all still have one "surprise" left from Valve. They said almost a year ago that within a year they will give us thre surprises. One was DOTA, aother is clearly this, I wonder what the third could be...

The hitboxes in CS 1.6 are to big, they actually extend beyond the player. The only real thing that is better/different (depends on how you look at it) is that CS 1.6 has much more recoil. However the amount of recoil was kind of crazy. CSS lowered it and made it more accessible while not making it to easy to master.

[QUOTE="markop2003"][QUOTE="Wasdie"]

This is actually one hell of an improvement. If you knew anything about the real competitive scene in CSS you would know it's kind of a pain.

Wasdie

That's a hassle having to have a clan. I play with some buddies of mine who belong to a service that sets up competitive 5 v 5 matches. We are matched against other groups. Sometimes clans are there, but most of the time it's just groups of friends wanting to play CSS competitively, not just pubbing.

This matchmaking will make this 100x easier. The advantages of matchmaking over server browsers is that you can assemble a team of similarly skilled players and then play with a specific set of rules. That's much more difficult to do with server browsers. This will allow everybody to play competitively without much hassle. Just hit "matchmaking" and the get into matches with people around your same skill level. Just like in Starcraft 2.

That was one thing I've always liked matchmaking over server browsers. It's the best of both worlds with Valve as it's not P2P. All of the games are set up using a matchmaking service and then moved to a dedicated server somewhere. It's genous.

Oooooh that's what you meant. Duh, should've figured it out with SC2.

I thought you were talking about just throwing random people together like crappy IWnet.

[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

[QUOTE="markop2003"] Anyone playing competitively joins a clan and plays on their server or in clan battles...ChubbyGuy40

That's a hassle having to have a clan. I play with some buddies of mine who belong to a service that sets up competitive 5 v 5 matches. We are matched against other groups. Sometimes clans are there, but most of the time it's just groups of friends wanting to play CSS competitively, not just pubbing.

This matchmaking will make this 100x easier. The advantages of matchmaking over server browsers is that you can assemble a team of similarly skilled players and then play with a specific set of rules. That's much more difficult to do with server browsers. This will allow everybody to play competitively without much hassle. Just hit "matchmaking" and the get into matches with people around your same skill level. Just like in Starcraft 2.

That was one thing I've always liked matchmaking over server browsers. It's the best of both worlds with Valve as it's not P2P. All of the games are set up using a matchmaking service and then moved to a dedicated server somewhere. It's genous.

Oooooh that's what you meant. Duh, should've figured it out with SC2.

I thought you were talking about just throwing random people together like crappy IWnet.

I'm sure if they want this to be really competitive, it won't be like IW net and people will be matched based off of skill. If not, that will get changed fast.

I'm sure you can make a party of guys and go into the game and it will place you based upon the average of the higher level players. Or if you're just wanting to play a bit, you can hit matchmaking and be set with people around your skill level with ways to report your teammates for being bad teammates. Gabe himself said he would love to be able to punish bad teammates somehow.

I think it's going to be much improved. However I hope they don't completely abandon custom game types and larger amounts of players all using a server browser. Nothing beats a good gun-game to have some fun.

[QUOTE="timmy00"]

So it's coming to the consoles or am I mistaken?

Meh still rather get it for the PC. :3

Actually I still need to get Counter Strike Source. >.>

finalstar2007

Its coming to PS3 and Xbox via PSN and XBLA

Also lol at people getting mad just because someone didn't enjoy Half Life 2. Let them have their own damn opinion and ignore them if you disagree. derp.

[QUOTE="ChubbyGuy40"]

[QUOTE="TailBlood"]

Metacritic, sales, user scores, fanbase kindly disagree.

TailBlood

Good for them. Game was still horrible.

Hint: saying Fact after a poorly stated opinion doesnt make it a fact.... and Tail... your incredibly biased against pc

:lol: watch hermits complain about consolization when more is revealed.Sp4rtan_3

I would honestly rather have MW4 than CS: GO. CoD's S&D is the same as CS' de, but with a lot more features. There's also the rest of CoD's MP with TDM, FFA, Domination, CTF, HQ, Demolition, Sabotage...

Valve'll have to do a lot to convince me to buy another CS.

I would much rather see the Source 2.0 Engine and Half Life 3. And I know many other people want this too.

Nice new counterstrike :D

Also, it looks like a decent port coming to consoles. Very good for them.

I wonder if it's going to be any different. I mean, if there is one thing that CS players don't like it's change. Not too excited about it.

:lol: watch hermits complain about consolization when more is revealed.Sp4rtan_3

Well it is mainly aimed for console market. This is what cadred.org inside source said.

http://www.cadred.org/News/Article/154757/

Apparently this isnt CS2.

I like how this turned into a HL2 hate thread.

Stringerboy

Any thread concerning a sequel to a Valve game that isn't Half Life immediately turns into a battle over HL2. I may have missed one or two that weren't, but it's pretty common :P

[QUOTE="fusionhunter"]

[QUOTE="TailBlood"]Metacritic, sales, user scores, fanbase kindly disagree.

TailBlood

[QUOTE="TailBlood"]

[QUOTE="fusionhunter"]Sales don't determine how good a game is.

hofuldig

whats many? got a hardcore number.

[QUOTE="hofuldig"][QUOTE="TailBlood"]Then you must have ignored the Metacritic, user scores and it's fanbase. None of those matter?

finalfantasy94

whats many? got a hardcore number.

[QUOTE="Sp4rtan_3"]:lol: watch hermits complain about consolization when more is revealed.Nohtnym

Well it is mainly aimed for console market. This is what cadred.org inside source said.

http://www.cadred.org/News/Article/154757/

Apparently this isnt CS2.

Their "inside" man.

They wouldn't have the top CSS clans beta testing if they were building it for the consoles.

[QUOTE="Jankarcop"]

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"] They don't determine how good a game is, either.DarkLink77

In an arguement i'd rather use those than listen to random forum kids.

[QUOTE="finalstar2007"]

[QUOTE="timmy00"]

So it's coming to the consoles or am I mistaken?

Meh still rather get it for the PC. :3

Actually I still need to get Counter Strike Source. >.>

timmy00

Its coming to PS3 and Xbox via PSN and XBLA

Also lol at people getting mad just because someone didn't enjoy Half Life 2. Let them have their own damn opinion and ignore them if you disagree. derp.

This is a forum. We call out other's opinions. This place would be beyond boring if we let opinions(many without proper reasoning behind them) run rampid without challenging them.

I hope they use steamworks for ps3. I don't care if people think it is unbalenced, playing together with someone on my pc and ps3 sounds awsome.

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="Jankarcop"]

In an arguement i'd rather use those than listen to random forum kids.

BigDaddyPOLO

Sarcasm?

My opinion might not change your own, for instance, but it's a **** load more important to me than metacritics... "This game scored well therefore you must enjoy it regardless of personal opinion" is the worst logic out there.

[QUOTE="timmy00"]

[QUOTE="finalstar2007"]

Its coming to PS3 and Xbox via PSN and XBLA

15strong

Also lol at people getting mad just because someone didn't enjoy Half Life 2. Let them have their own damn opinion and ignore them if you disagree. derp.

This is a forum. We call out other's opinions. This place would be beyond boring if we let opinions(many without proper reasoning behind them) run rampid without challenging them.

I hope they use steamworks for ps3. I don't care if people think it is unbalenced, playing together with someone on my pc and ps3 sounds awsome.

i would be shocked if they didnt use steamworks...since they promoted it so much.

[QUOTE="BigDaddyPOLO"]

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"] Or you could judge the game on its own merits. Shocking, I know.IndianaPwns39

Sarcasm?

My opinion might not change your own, for instance, but it's a **** load more important to me than metacritics... "This game scored well therefore you must enjoy it regardless of personal opinion" is the worst logic out there.

B-b-b-b-ut you're ignoring the reviews and the sales and the fanbase????

:lol:

[QUOTE="mattuk69"]

On consoles....:cry: Another Call of Duty because lets face it. Counter strike is about speed and accuracy, consoles have neither.

Will probably be great on all platforms but wont be a CS 1.6 or CS:S.

ChubbyGuy40

aaaand just like that you already managed to kill half of my hype for this game.

CS just doesn't work on consoles. It never will.

[QUOTE="ChubbyGuy40"]

[QUOTE="mattuk69"]

On consoles....:cry: Another Call of Duty because lets face it. Counter strike is about speed and accuracy, consoles have neither.

Will probably be great on all platforms but wont be a CS 1.6 or CS:S.

hensothor

aaaand just like that you already managed to kill half of my hype for this game.

CS just doesn't work on consoles. It never will.

You didn't hear? Stalker 2 is already consolized. We haven't heard a lick of info, but it is already worse than all of the stalkers that have previously came out.

[QUOTE="fusionhunter"]

[QUOTE="TailBlood"]Metacritic, sales, user scores, fanbase kindly disagree.

TailBlood

Awesome. Can't say I was very good at CS, but I had plenty of fun regardles.

MP7 featured prominently in the trailer. At least they're keeping current with the weapon selection.

For someone who plays as much CS as I do this is really exciting news.i5750at4Ghz

Same with me. There are just two things i hope they DON'T do. Those things are

1. Iron Sights. Every modern game that has had this has turned into a game of "who can zoom in the fastest?"

2. Sprint. Counter Strike just doesn't need it. Counter strike has always been slow paced and i hope it stays that way.

As long as those are not in it then they can mess around with the game all they want and I will be pleased.

It is kind of interesting that they announced this though. My brother played TF2 with the developer of one of the maps on TF2 for its 2 year anniversary and my brother told me a few weeks ago that the developer said he was working on new Counter Strike maps. I doubted it, but it looks like what he said was true after all.

[QUOTE="timmy00"]

[QUOTE="finalstar2007"]

Its coming to PS3 and Xbox via PSN and XBLA

15strong

Also lol at people getting mad just because someone didn't enjoy Half Life 2. Let them have their own damn opinion and ignore them if you disagree. derp.

This is a forum. We call out other's opinions. This place would be beyond boring if we let opinions(many without proper reasoning behind them) run rampid without challenging them.

I hope they use steamworks for ps3. I don't care if people think it is unbalenced, playing together with someone on my pc and ps3 sounds awsome.

[QUOTE="Sp4rtan_3"]:lol: watch hermits complain about consolization when more is revealed.sethman410

One of the co-creators of Counterstrike lived in my dorm freshman year. I played CS way too much in college.

Can't wait to play this on the Xbox 360 with the guys from college. (we've all moved away from PC gaming)

[QUOTE="i5750at4Ghz"]For someone who plays as much CS as I do this is really exciting news.hoola

Same with me. There are just two things i hope they DON'T do. Those things are

1. Iron Sights. Every modern game that has had this has turned into a game of "who can zoom in the fastest?"

2. Sprint. Counter Strike just doesn't need it. Counter strike has always been slow paced and i hope it stays that way.

As long as those are not in it then they can mess around with the game all they want and I will be pleased.

It is kind of interesting that they announced this though. My brother played TF2 with the developer of one of the maps on TF2 for its 2 year anniversary and my brother told me a few weeks ago that the developer said he was working on new Counter Strike maps. I doubted it, but it looks like what he said was true after all.

My only thing on my wishlist is a cover system.

flashn00b

One of the co-creators of Counterstrike lived in my dorm freshman year. I played CS way too much in college.

Can't wait to play this on the Xbox 360 with the guys from college. (we've all moved away from PC gaming)

KC_Hokie

[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]

One of the co-creators of Counterstrike lived in my dorm freshman year. I played CS way too much in college.

Can't wait to play this on the Xbox 360 with the guys from college. (we've all moved away from PC gaming)

i5750at4Ghz

[QUOTE="markop2003"]Matchmaking *face palms*Wasdie

This is actually one hell of an improvement. If you knew anything about the real competitive scene in CSS you would know it's kind of a pain.

So happy they're making this. I couldn't care less for HL3 since HL2 sucked.

ChubbyGuy40

But anyway, this doesn't sound like the sequel to CSS I was expecting so I'll wait.

After Half life 3... guess that's too much to ask for... k Gabe.

TailBlood

NO MOD TOOLS. So help me Valve, if you do not give us the proper mod tools and map maker this game will fail to convert MANY, MANY players. Nothing beats playing a surf server, gungame or fun maps after some comptetive play.Ringx55

[QUOTE="Ringx55"]NO MOD TOOLS. So help me Valve, if you do not give us the proper mod tools and map maker this game will fail to convert MANY, MANY players. Nothing beats playing a surf server, gungame or fun maps after some comptetive play.skrat_01

Wonder if CS PS3 version will have steam support like portal 2, sure hope so

Wonder if CS PS3 version will have steam support like portal 2, sure hope so

finalstar2007

[QUOTE="finalstar2007"]

Wonder if CS PS3 version will have steam support like portal 2, sure hope so

Ringx55

would be shadowrun all over again. Even with an handicap PC gamers still managed to beat the 360 players.