here i took out time to highlight all the flat textures that lemmings loved to make fun of for MGS4....
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here i took out time to highlight all the flat textures that lemmings loved to make fun of for MGS4....
[QUOTE="justforlotr2004"][QUOTE="stereointegrity"]still looks like gears one..just brighter but hey it still looks amazing one way or another
stereointegrity
Same resolution pics please. Do I REALLY have to prove once again that Gears 2 has way more detail?
oh plz do...because even i a huge gears fan found it in no way that much better then the firstI already did, just scroll up. When I get the time I plan to do a breakdown between Gears 1 and 2 with what we got and then maybe a Killzone shot or two to spice things up. :P
I posted this in another thread.
The entire Brumak model is way more detailed than it was in Gears one. In the screens below you can see things like the chains are now 3D instead of painted on illusions. That shot is even the PC version which is supose to be even more sharp and better looking than the 360 version and Gears of war 2 totally destroys it.
justforlotr2004
A) Better picture Quality :|
B) They changed the Brumak model(a lot) :|x2
Yah over-all it looks better...considering it is the new UE3.5 engine but the improvements are barely noticeable.
[QUOTE="Zeliard9"]Check out the images from Gamersyde. Their images are of a much higher quality than IGN's:
http://www.gamersyde.com/news_6465_en.html
It's a pretty substantial improvement over Gears 1, even the PC version, which I've been playing lately. The lighting model in Gears 2 is a lot more advanced, and it's very obvious to anybody who's played Gears 1 recently.
Always-Honest
wow, looks great.. but the ign screens are the same quality... just open them in another window and click to enlarge
I don't really trust IGN for images, regardless. Their image compression is generally horrible, while it's the complete opposite for Gamersyde. You'll only find high-quality stuff there.
here i took out time to highlight all the flat textures that lemmings loved to make fun of for MGS4....
stereointegrity
Those are tree leaves if Im not mistake, Ill watch the trailer later to see, but gtg now.
[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"][QUOTE="chikenfriedrice"][QUOTE="thrones"]Isn't this just..stills from the videos? And by the way...for some reason..those look like Jaggie junction :|thrones
I do not see any jaggies at all?
put your cow googles on, then every non-PS3 game will look terrible. I'm sure Thrones must have a few spare pairs. :PI'm saying, in those still images that are resized, I can see jaggies :|
The Videos are jaggy free, like the one bellow.
try taking the googles off, seriously thrones.At 200% there are no jaggies
[QUOTE="stereointegrity"][QUOTE="justforlotr2004"][QUOTE="stereointegrity"]still looks like gears one..just brighter but hey it still looks amazing one way or another
justforlotr2004
Same resolution pics please. Do I REALLY have to prove once again that Gears 2 has way more detail?
oh plz do...because even i a huge gears fan found it in no way that much better then the firstI already did, just scroll up. When I get the time I plan to do a breakdown between Gears 1 and 2 with what we got and then maybe a Killzone shot or two to spice things up. :P
ok the brumak does actually have more detail witht the chains and all i get u there but over all its not that huge a difference to be honest...but damn the brumak looks mean as hell now haha cant wait to kill a few of those[QUOTE="stereointegrity"]here i took out time to highlight all the flat textures that lemmings loved to make fun of for MGS4....
Krazy_Kaz
thats the best you could come up with?? :lol:
someone post that pic of snake crouching infront of the wooden box
no i was pointing out what lemmings always love to point out...[QUOTE="thrones"][QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"][QUOTE="chikenfriedrice"][QUOTE="thrones"]Isn't this just..stills from the videos? And by the way...for some reason..those look like Jaggie junction :|blue_hazy_basic
I do not see any jaggies at all?
put your cow googles on, then every non-PS3 game will look terrible. I'm sure Thrones must have a few spare pairs. :PI'm saying, in those still images that are resized, I can see jaggies :|
The Videos are jaggy free, like the one bellow.
try taking the googles off, seriously thrones.At 200% there are no jaggies
How do you zoom in seriously? I'm talking those images which HE posted at STANDARD size. I am not talking about the ACTUAL game. The actual TRAILER is Jaggie free.
[QUOTE="Krazy_Kaz"][QUOTE="stereointegrity"]here i took out time to highlight all the flat textures that lemmings loved to make fun of for MGS4....
stereointegrity
thats the best you could come up with?? :lol:
someone post that pic of snake crouching infront of the wooden box
no i was pointing out what lemmings always love to point out...Trying to complain about the texture work in Gears 2 isn't going to get you very far.
[QUOTE="stereointegrity"]
here i took out time to highlight all the flat textures that lemmings loved to make fun of for MGS4....
justforlotr2004
Those are tree leaves if Im not mistake, Ill watch the trailer later to see, but gtg now.
yea they are tree leaves but just like the trees in GTA they are flat textures throne together....ok im done aruging over a game im getting haha im just nit picking but hey it will be a great gameok the brumak does actually have more detail witht the chains and all i get u there but over all its not that huge a difference to be honest...but damn the brumak looks mean as hell now haha cant wait to kill a few of thosestereointegrity
With that type of detail all over it will add up.
How do you zoom in seriously? I'm talking those images which HE posted at STANDARD size. I am not talking about the ACTUAL game. The actual TRAILER is Jaggie free.thrones
http://www.gamersyde.com/news_6465_en.html click on the images and in the bottom right use the magnifying glass with the 100% beside it to zoom in.
[QUOTE="thrones"]How do you zoom in seriously? I'm talking those images which HE posted at STANDARD size. I am not talking about the ACTUAL game. The actual TRAILER is Jaggie free.blue_hazy_basic
http://www.gamersyde.com/news_6465_en.html click on the images and in the bottom right use the magnifying glass with the 100% beside it to zoom in.
What about the images he posted on the front page? :|
[QUOTE="stereointegrity"]ok the brumak does actually have more detail witht the chains and all i get u there but over all its not that huge a difference to be honest...but damn the brumak looks mean as hell now haha cant wait to kill a few of thosejustforlotr2004
With that type of detail all over it will add up.
I wonder how a PS3 version would look? I think more like geow 1 for PC. The PS3 cant handle as many poly's onscreen at once so things like the chains would have to be sacrificed for the frames per second. Or all the textures would look flat like most other PS3 games. (even GT5 suffers from this even though it is the prettiest game on consoles)[QUOTE="Always-Honest"][QUOTE="Zeliard9"]Check out the images from Gamersyde. Their images are of a much higher quality than IGN's:
http://www.gamersyde.com/news_6465_en.html
It's a pretty substantial improvement over Gears 1, even the PC version, which I've been playing lately. The lighting model in Gears 2 is a lot more advanced, and it's very obvious to anybody who's played Gears 1 recently.
Zeliard9
wow, looks great.. but the ign screens are the same quality... just open them in another window and click to enlarge
I don't really trust IGN for images, regardless. Their image compression is generally horrible, while it's the complete opposite for Gamersyde. You'll only find high-quality stuff there.
that's very true. Gamersyde has great video's and screens..
[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"][QUOTE="thrones"][QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"][QUOTE="chikenfriedrice"][QUOTE="thrones"]Isn't this just..stills from the videos? And by the way...for some reason..those look like Jaggie junction :|thrones
I do not see any jaggies at all?
put your cow googles on, then every non-PS3 game will look terrible. I'm sure Thrones must have a few spare pairs. :PI'm saying, in those still images that are resized, I can see jaggies :|
The Videos are jaggy free, like the one bellow.
try taking the googles off, seriously thrones.At 200% there are no jaggies
How do you zoom in seriously? I'm talking those images which HE posted at STANDARD size. I am not talking about the ACTUAL game. The actual TRAILER is Jaggie free.
so are the screens.. don't you know how to look at them at 100%?
[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"][QUOTE="thrones"]How do you zoom in seriously? I'm talking those images which HE posted at STANDARD size. I am not talking about the ACTUAL game. The actual TRAILER is Jaggie free.thrones
http://www.gamersyde.com/news_6465_en.html click on the images and in the bottom right use the magnifying glass with the 100% beside it to zoom in.
What about the images he posted on the front page? :|
those are the same images in a better res[QUOTE="justforlotr2004"][QUOTE="stereointegrity"]ok the brumak does actually have more detail witht the chains and all i get u there but over all its not that huge a difference to be honest...but damn the brumak looks mean as hell now haha cant wait to kill a few of those360-ps3-wii-pc
With that type of detail all over it will add up.
I wonder how a PS3 version would look? I think more like geow 1 for PC. The PS3 cant handle as many poly's onscreen at once so things like the chains would have to be sacrificed for the frames per second. Or all the textures would look flat like most other PS3 games. (even GT5 suffers from this even though it is the prettiest game on consoles) chains would have made worse FPS haha whatThe character models look good but the rest looks like garbage IMO.gdp72
wow nothing in this game ooks like garbage...but to each his own
[QUOTE="360-ps3-wii-pc"][QUOTE="justforlotr2004"][QUOTE="stereointegrity"]ok the brumak does actually have more detail witht the chains and all i get u there but over all its not that huge a difference to be honest...but damn the brumak looks mean as hell now haha cant wait to kill a few of thosestereointegrity
With that type of detail all over it will add up.
I wonder how a PS3 version would look? I think more like geow 1 for PC. The PS3 cant handle as many poly's onscreen at once so things like the chains would have to be sacrificed for the frames per second. Or all the textures would look flat like most other PS3 games. (even GT5 suffers from this even though it is the prettiest game on consoles) chains would have made worse FPS haha what here let me speak child for you, The PS3 version could not have as much detail and run at the same fps as the 360 version as the 360 can have 2x's as many polys onscreen at once. yes those chains are made of polys. there got it yet?[QUOTE="thrones"][QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"][QUOTE="thrones"]How do you zoom in seriously? I'm talking those images which HE posted at STANDARD size. I am not talking about the ACTUAL game. The actual TRAILER is Jaggie free.blue_hazy_basic
http://www.gamersyde.com/news_6465_en.html click on the images and in the bottom right use the magnifying glass with the 100% beside it to zoom in.
What about the images he posted on the front page? :|
those are the same images in a better resThis is what I'm seeing:
Do those not look even slightly jaggy to you? Because they do to me.
[QUOTE="justforlotr2004"][QUOTE="stereointegrity"]ok the brumak does actually have more detail witht the chains and all i get u there but over all its not that huge a difference to be honest...but damn the brumak looks mean as hell now haha cant wait to kill a few of those360-ps3-wii-pc
With that type of detail all over it will add up.
I wonder how a PS3 version would look? I think more like geow 1 for PC. The PS3 cant handle as many poly's onscreen at once so things like the chains would have to be sacrificed for the frames per second. Or all the textures would look flat like most other PS3 games. (even GT5 suffers from this even though it is the prettiest game on consoles)What makes you think that?? PS3 already has games with tons of polygons on the screen. Even on launch games. Resistance had far more enemies onscreen than Gears and never has a hint of slowdown. Ratchet and Clank tons onscreen, same with Heavenly Sword. GT5 textures look flat?? These are cars we are talking about right??
[QUOTE="thrones"]...Always-Honest
right click and open them in a new window.. then click to enlarge!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yes, I've done that now, I mean I thought it looked off the moment I saw them as I've already seen the trailer so many times. But my initial comment was aimed at the unenlarged pictures.
[QUOTE="360-ps3-wii-pc"][QUOTE="justforlotr2004"][QUOTE="stereointegrity"]ok the brumak does actually have more detail witht the chains and all i get u there but over all its not that huge a difference to be honest...but damn the brumak looks mean as hell now haha cant wait to kill a few of thoseEmperorSupreme
With that type of detail all over it will add up.
I wonder how a PS3 version would look? I think more like geow 1 for PC. The PS3 cant handle as many poly's onscreen at once so things like the chains would have to be sacrificed for the frames per second. Or all the textures would look flat like most other PS3 games. (even GT5 suffers from this even though it is the prettiest game on consoles)What makes you think that?? PS3 already has games with tons of polygons on the screen. Even on launch games. Resistance had far more enemies onscreen than Gears and never has a hint of slowdown. Ratchet and Clank tons onscreen, same with Heavenly Sword. GT5 textures look flat?? These are cars we are talking about right??
please, dont start this fight. it has been over for a while. How many developers have said they just had to lower the poly count to get the PS3 version on par, ( last dev was the madden team at ea). and if you think all that detail on the characters and enemies can be done in a PS3 game, please show one screen shot with a character on a PS3 game with as much detail as a LOCUST DRONE. please do.And yes GT5 has several textures that are not detailed as the cars are. The cars are the star of the show. The rest are passable. But for an example why are the windows on buildings 3-d in PGR4 but flat in GT5? Why is that? Does it matter at 120 mph? No. But it is there. and it is a truth that cows will face more and more. PS3 games will have better lighting, even some objects will display better because of the room in bluray disk. However the depth of detail that the 360 displays will never be on the PS3. It doesnt have the memory for the texture.
Well the PC version of Gears of War is sharper if you run it with all the tweaks up and a higher resolution. It isn't "supposed".I posted this in another thread.
The entire Brumak model is way more detailed than it was in Gears one. In the screens below you can see things like the chains are now 3D instead of painted on illusions. That shot is even the PC version which is supose to be even more sharp and better looking than the 360 version and Gears of war 2 totally destroys it.
And now that we got a High res shot although a tad bit farther distance you can still see the detail Im talking about.
justforlotr2004
The main improvement in Gears 2 is the lighting and it looks a lot sharper than before (a lot like the PC version), those details you pointed out are also a nice addition. I wouldn't label it an improvement of colossal proportions though.
[QUOTE="EmperorSupreme"]please, dont start this fight. it has been over for a while. How many developers have said they just had to lower the poly count to get the PS3 version on par, ( last dev was the madden team at ea). and if you think all that detail on the characters and enemies can be done in a PS3 game, please show one screen shot with a character on a PS3 game with as much detail as a LOCUST DRONE. please do.What makes you think that?? PS3 already has games with tons of polygons on the screen. Even on launch games. Resistance had far more enemies onscreen than Gears and never has a hint of slowdown. Ratchet and Clank tons onscreen, same with Heavenly Sword. GT5 textures look flat?? These are cars we are talking about right??
360-ps3-wii-pc
And yes GT5 has several textures that are not detailed as the cars are. The cars are the star of the show. The rest are passable. But for an example why are the windows on buildings 3-d in PGR4 but flat in GT5? Why is that? Does it matter at 120 mph? No. But it is there. and it is a truth that cows will face more and more. PS3 games will have better lighting, even some objects will display better because of the room in bluray disk. However the depth of detail that the 360 displays will never be on the PS3. It doesnt have the memory for the texture.
What's better than a Locust Drone?? You do know that UT3 is on PS3 right? And it's improved over Gears. And I can tell you haven't played GT5 so why debate it. I'll just let you know you are all kinds of wrong. Last you lost all credibility bringing up Madden. When in the history of gaming has that ever been considered a benchmark game??
[QUOTE="justforlotr2004"]Well the PC version of Gears of War is sharper if you run it with all the tweaks up and a higher resolution. It isn't "supposed".I posted this in another thread.
The entire Brumak model is way more detailed than it was in Gears one. In the screens below you can see things like the chains are now 3D instead of painted on illusions. That shot is even the PC version which is supose to be even more sharp and better looking than the 360 version and Gears of war 2 totally destroys it.
And now that we got a High res shot although a tad bit farther distance you can still see the detail Im talking about.
smokeydabear076
The main improvement in Gears 2 is the lighting and it looks a lot sharper than before (a lot like the PC version), those details you pointed out are also a nice addition. I wouldn't label it an improvement of colossal proportions though.
Well it isn't Killzone to Killzone 2, but I do think it's about as big a graphical improvement as you can expect from a sequel released only 2 years later. After seeing the new UE3 tech demos, I expected Gears 2 to look great, but I was still surprised by how good it looks. And we haven't even seen the destructability and soft body physics in action yet.
This is actually much more of a graphical upgrade than you usually see in same-gen sequels, because most of those kinds of sequels don't completely change the lighting model like Gears 2 is doing.
Having said that, Gears 2 PC will be godly.
He's as deep as Marcus Fenix or any Gears character, quite frankly.thrones
Augustus Cole, Carmine or Even Dominique have way more character than Nathan Hale. I would compare Nathan Hale to "Charging locust #246."
Resistance, IMO doesn't have any memorable characters or else we would see people talking about it. Which we don't. You don't see those Nathan Hale vs. Master Cheif threads because his character sucks. Nothing memorable about him. Thats why insomniac decided to flesh out his character for Resistance 2.
[QUOTE="Pro_wrestler"][QUOTE="mingo123"]Krazy_Kaz
$5 says we will see Some PS3 character in the locust position.
Snake is too old, he will die before the first punch
Dante is on 360 now
and marcus doesnt beat up cute and cudly sesame street pals (Rachet, Sly, Daxter etc......)
......Mario and link on the other hand.......:twisted:
Kratos would destroy Marcus
[QUOTE="smokeydabear076"][QUOTE="justforlotr2004"]Well the PC version of Gears of War is sharper if you run it with all the tweaks up and a higher resolution. It isn't "supposed".I posted this in another thread.
The entire Brumak model is way more detailed than it was in Gears one. In the screens below you can see things like the chains are now 3D instead of painted on illusions. That shot is even the PC version which is supose to be even more sharp and better looking than the 360 version and Gears of war 2 totally destroys it.
And now that we got a High res shot although a tad bit farther distance you can still see the detail Im talking about.
Zeliard9
The main improvement in Gears 2 is the lighting and it looks a lot sharper than before (a lot like the PC version), those details you pointed out are also a nice addition. I wouldn't label it an improvement of colossal proportions though.
Well it isn't Killzone to Killzone 2, but I do think it's about as big a graphical improvement as you can expect from a sequel released only 2 years later. After seeing the new UE3 tech demos, I expected Gears 2 to look great, but I was still surprised by how good it looks. And we haven't even seen the destructability and soft body physics in action yet.
This is actually much more of a graphical upgrade than you usually see in same-gen sequels, because most of those kinds of sequels don't completely change the lighting model like Gears 2 is doing.
Having said that, Gears 2 PC will be godly.
Yeah I wasn't really expecting a Killzone to Killzone 2 type of improvement, this looks amazing to me, but like I said before I'm not going to call it an improvement of colossal proportions. That isn't the way I see it.In the end all I really care about the most is whether or not the game will be fun and from the looks of it Gears of War 2 looks like a hell of a lot of fun. So needless to say I'm excited about this game.
[QUOTE="Zeliard9"]Yeah I wasn't really expecting a Killzone to Killzone 2 type of improvement, this looks amazing to me, but like I said before I'm not going to call it an improvement of colossal proportions. That isn't the way I see it.Well it isn't Killzone to Killzone 2, but I do think it's about as big a graphical improvement as you can expect from a sequel released only 2 years later. After seeing the new UE3 tech demos, I expected Gears 2 to look great, but I was still surprised by how good it looks. And we haven't even seen the destructability and soft body physics in action yet.
This is actually much more of a graphical upgrade than you usually see in same-gen sequels, because most of those kinds of sequels don't completely change the lighting model like Gears 2 is doing.
Having said that, Gears 2 PC will be godly.
smokeydabear076
In the end all I really care about the most is whether or not the game will be fun and from the looks of it Gears of War 2 looks like a hell of a lot of fun. So needless to say I'm excited about this game.
Yeah. I wonder if the ability to pick up bodies and use them as shields will extend to the multiplayer. That would be hilarious and great, gunning your friend down and picking up his dead (or dying?) body and using him as a shield. That's adding insult to injury right there.
I also hope the destructability is extensive, since UE3 is capable of it now. If they make it so cover can be destroyed, that would add a lot to the game, especially multiplayer.
[QUOTE="smokeydabear076"][QUOTE="Zeliard9"]Yeah I wasn't really expecting a Killzone to Killzone 2 type of improvement, this looks amazing to me, but like I said before I'm not going to call it an improvement of colossal proportions. That isn't the way I see it.Well it isn't Killzone to Killzone 2, but I do think it's about as big a graphical improvement as you can expect from a sequel released only 2 years later. After seeing the new UE3 tech demos, I expected Gears 2 to look great, but I was still surprised by how good it looks. And we haven't even seen the destructability and soft body physics in action yet.
This is actually much more of a graphical upgrade than you usually see in same-gen sequels, because most of those kinds of sequels don't completely change the lighting model like Gears 2 is doing.
Having said that, Gears 2 PC will be godly.
Zeliard9
In the end all I really care about the most is whether or not the game will be fun and from the looks of it Gears of War 2 looks like a hell of a lot of fun. So needless to say I'm excited about this game.
Yeah. I wonder if the ability to pick up bodies and use them as shields will extend to the multiplayer. That would be hilarious and great, gunning your friend down and picking up his dead (or dying?) body and using him as a shield. That's adding insult to injury right there.
I also hope the destructability is extensive, since UE3 is capable of it now. If they make it so cover can be destroyed, that would add a lot to the game, especially multiplayer.
Yeah I hope the destructibility isn't gimmicky and you just see some bricks fly off the wall or something lame like that, also I must say that I think the hostage taking/ bodyshield would be more useful in the multiplayer than the single player. I'm sure they will add that in.I posted this in another thread.
The entire Brumak model is way more detailed than it was in Gears one. In the screens below you can see things like the chains are now 3D instead of painted on illusions. That shot is even the PC version which is supose to be even more sharp and better looking than the 360 version and Gears of war 2 totally destroys it.
And now that we got a High res shot although a tad bit farther distance you can still see the detail Im talking about.
justforlotr2004
I didn't want to say anything but.... what's up with the 1d chains in the second pic?
[QUOTE="justforlotr2004"]I posted this in another thread.
The entire Brumak model is way more detailed than it was in Gears one. In the screens below you can see things like the chains are now 3D instead of painted on illusions. That shot is even the PC version which is supose to be even more sharp and better looking than the 360 version and Gears of war 2 totally destroys it.
And now that we got a High res shot although a tad bit farther distance you can still see the detail Im talking about.
sakura_Ex
I didn't want to say anything but.... what's up with the 1d chains in the second pic?
Gears 1
[QUOTE="sakura_Ex"][QUOTE="justforlotr2004"]I posted this in another thread.
The entire Brumak model is way more detailed than it was in Gears one. In the screens below you can see things like the chains are now 3D instead of painted on illusions. That shot is even the PC version which is supose to be even more sharp and better looking than the 360 version and Gears of war 2 totally destroys it.
And now that we got a High res shot although a tad bit farther distance you can still see the detail Im talking about.
thrones
I didn't want to say anything but.... what's up with the 1d chains in the second pic?
Gears 1
Oh...ok.
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