New high res screenshots of The Order (insane)

Considering you knew that Pearl was a glasses supplier? Never heard of them. I'm serious. I have 20/20 vision though. I know of lens crafters though.

Is it pearl vision?

@gpuking: sub full HD confirmed. Any game can use black bars to cut processing power. I have a 1080p wide screen TV, black bars are the last thing I want to see.

Yeah the first build didn't have shadows and the second build does... hahahaha yeah total downgrade,so how is a change in color a downgrade,because that is what mostly is show in the old build vs the new one,want to see downgrade look at Watchdogs on both PC and consoles.

That video you link in no place has the same part it was shown on the new video,

In fact they look to take place at different part of the day,this video on a more light area,the new build is on a more greedy dark place,and the uniform difference was already explain it is an infiltration suit,funny enough in the new build the characters cast shadows something the older build didn't do,i am sure that if it was the other way around and the new build didn't cast shadows vs the old one you would be downplaying it..

Hahaha but since it is the other way around you people pretend is not happening..lol

and what's up, can't sleep at night because of it? lol

DING DING DING. We have a Winrar.

sub full hd and 30fps.

dat insane.

@Evo_nine: with 1080p pixel density no upscaling needed

you loose

Im very at peace with myself at this moment cows got lucky today, I can go on and on and detail the downgrades. But not for today.

Hint: will buy the 399.99 console that impresses me the most at this years E3.

I really can't.

It's just another one of these cases in a string of many, many hyped releases.

People blindly hype anything that's pretty these days. It's worrying how much people overlook the boring gameplay

i now understand why lemmings choose a XposBone they cannot see the difference between the order now and then, they think color grading is a downgrade..LOL!!!

it's obvious that the order is a total upgrade everything looks so much better

Buu buu grafix.

Like how you got ripped to shreds because you made one (negative-ish) comment on some gameplay of TLOU all the way back.

You can't do that stuff with these exclusives, apparently.

@seanmcloughlin: That is precisely why this does not make me want to run out and buy a PS4. But sure, the visuals are nice. A nice popcorn game for sure.

you already got told by Mr unbias mod but now the argument changed to gameplay as the last straw? All we seen of gameplay are short pieces anyway and the game's supposed to have more than just shooting.

@Gue1: What argument? I've been saying that graphics aren't that impressive compared to what they first showed. Now all I see is people trying to downplay the fact that its not as good looking as it once was.

I've constantly said the game looks good. I never changed my stance on that. I've also always said that the gameplay is boring looking. It's possible to think both because I'm not swayed by visuals alone but can still appreciate them. But hey let's take a shot at the mod to try trip him up and make yourself sound smart right?

Jeez yeah, I praised the game constantly for like 2 pages but then I said something slightly critical of it and got lit upon

There is a very high level of polish with those graphics. It's quite impressive.

Yeah because it will not show on E3 and DF will not analyze it either..lol

Because there is always more than 1 troll...lol

Which is what screen pulled from a low quality twitch stream..hahahaha Brilliant ...lol

The this game blows out and good quality screens come you boy i will ride you like you have been here..hahahahaaa

Even from the video you can see the game has now extra post process effects and even shadows..

butbutbut downgrade...lol

This game has deliver the single biggest butthurt wave i ever seen sine Killzone 2..lol

That's actually an idiotic thing to say, considering how many movies are in different cinematic aspect ratios.

1.33 = (bars, left and right - almost every movie before 1954)

2.35 = the standard aspect ratio for most films after 1954, so most films actually leave a 16:9 1080p TV with black bars top and bottom. This is true even today, where the aspect ratio of most movies doesn't exactly match the TV. Sometimes it does, but only TV shows seems to actually stick with the 1.78 ratio the majority of the time (which makes sense). But if you are watching Captain Phillips, or Hunger Games, or whatever movie on your TV... most likely it will have black bars.

Some films are also 1.66, and "epic" films go even wider, at 2.76 or sometimes other slightly variable ratios.

http://filmmakeriq.com/lessons/the-changing-shape-of-cinema-the-history-of-aspect-ratio/

The developers here claim that they are trying to make the game run at a "cinematic" aspect ratio, I am not a fan of this idea. Maybe it will work, or maybe not. But with a video game, I'd probably prefer to just use as much of the screen as possible. I will reserve judgement for the final product. For me to accept it as an "artistic choice" in a video game, It better be a perfect technical presentation inside that wider aspect ratio.

Pity they didn't release proper shots instead of screengrabs from the stream

Games are not movies. Movies choose different ratios to position stuff in shots better and draw your eyes to certain areas of the screen. This works for cutscenes in games but not for actual gameplay

So many compression artifacts in those images, hard to see anything, those are terrible screen caps. Would like to see pics that aren't caps from a streaming video. Guess we shall see soon enough though the comparison pics shown several posts ago suggest (unfairly maybe?) that the old build's scene does have more detail and higher complexity. So they say the uniforms changed to some infiltrator uniform or some such but why did the guns suddenly look like they went through 60 years of erosion, maybe they are "infiltrator" versions of those same weapons too and to "infiltrate" apparently you need to lower geometry complexity. On a more serious note however even the crap screen cap of new build shows much improved lighting (despite missing a source). In the old build pic the characters (which look better) look pasted on to the scene and are illuminated in way that just wouldn't happen in that room where as in the new build the lighting is much more realistic and credible in that scene. New build seems to have ao as well and old build seems to lack it. I will repeat, guns took a hit detail-wise (and who knows what other assets saw a reduction) and a higher quality screen shot would probably illustrate that even more but that new lighting is much improved. Welcome to console trade offs and compromises. Still, game looks better in this early stage than any released console game and perhaps even on par with some 2012 pc ones. With that said, game looks boring but it does have eye candy.

lemmings cannot see the polish this game has now, it's amazing!

There are a lot of Polish people in the game alright

Such a hypocrite where the fu** where you when lemming were flaming Infamous for supposedly some parts had not shadows.?

You people can't have it both ways,and yes part of a next gen game since last gen is having shadows on your damn characters and stuff all around you..lol

This game is causing some irreparable damage to lemmings lol..

@tormentos: KZ2? The one that Sony lied about at E3? The one that was running on a PC and looked nothing like the final game? Surely not....

@deadline-zero0: the butthurt is strong in this one. The dev commentary shut down any possibility of a downgraded and so did the HQ shots. I'm singing more ownage just like when all of you bashed infamous SS based off a compressed video and then come release day you got owned.

@tormentos: that "downgrade" image looks a lot different than the "downgrade" image in the comparison gif. I guess that's the internet for you. I'll just wait to see this in person like I am with watch dogs.

It's was more than one negative comment, I remember it well cause I still remind sean about it every so often.

All that's different are the outfits they're wearing. We'd have to see the same area again to compare. But thanks for proving my point, overall. Damn, lems these days,

Also enough of your being at peace bullshit. How about you come out guns blazing with your criticism, I don't get what's stopping you? You're implying you have a lot to say, so it will be fun to prove it all wrong.

For once Kuu2, now I feel dirty, I agree with you. I even said in the other thread that I'm not sure what Sony Marketing is playing about at letting them release something like this. Luckily previews and direct feed will be here come Tuesday.

I expect it to look better since these new screens are said to be be true direct feed. But some of the lems using the twitch stream gif comparison now is down right laughable and only makes them look stupid.

The amount of melt down lems are having is pure entertainment, I feel like cheating for not paying you guys lol.

@tormentos: Dude you straight up have to work for Sony.

I even ready your posts with a Japanese accent. You leave out words that a bilingual Non-English First language speaking person would, from my experiences.

@clyde46: Lmao , um yes it does there's HQ shots comparing them directly. If anything it looks better now. I'm tired of everyone doing this on every game when about 95% of the time it's just fanboy BS.

Definitely the best looking game released. But lems and herms will drop their typical shitbull nonsense excuses.

@farrell2k: Lmao yet it looks better then almost every game. How disappointed you must be.

that's not how this works. Newer games use more advance processing methods which require more hardware resources. So even if a console is 10x more powerful than the previous its also being asked to do a lot more than the previous console. 10x more powerful just means than it can run last gen games at 1080p/60fps no problem. Also consoles are fixed hardware and have very strict resource budgets. You have to balance it all out to get the best possible graphical fidelity.

@seanmcloughlin: So all the Gears of War games are boring now?

@clyde46: What if people actually like TPS . Herms get hyped for the same fps BS that comes every year.

Or maybe some folks just do not think that it looks all that impressive in areas outside of the great visuals. Not everything is black and white, there is a grey area in the middle where some of us dwell.

The black bars will be one of the first things people will find annoying. I find it more of a turnoff than upscaling.

And yet, if this was on the X1 you would call it lame and a Gears clone..... Your bullshit knows no bounds.

I wish TC would STFU and go home

Not 1080p,therefore it's terrible.

/cow logic

Pretty big downgrade, the framerate is choppy & there is screen tearing, i bet they cut MSAA as well

@clyde46: got any proof of that? I don't bash games based off there originality as at this point it's almost impossible to come out with a original products. Gears of war was one of the best franchises on the Xbox. Tomb Raider was heavily inspired off uncharted and I still loved it.

Crysis 3 looks better.

Generally speaking, I agree. With a game I want to use as much of my screen as possible.

However their claim is they wanted something "cinematic". Is this BS, or really an artistic choice? They made that decision very early on, so it seems to be a legitimate artistic choice (based on preferred cinema aspect ratios). This might have been a better experiment for a game like Heavy Rain, than a TPS. But still - I will wait to see their final result before judging. Maybe they will give an option to choose the aspect ratio and field of vision? Default it to their preferred ratio, but at least allow people to choose a full screen if they want (which would prove they were not using the ratio to cut corners on technical performance).

1- I like the sitting
2- i hate how linear this is
3- i like the visuals
4- black bars is nothing to brag about
5- gameplay looks last gen. i hope there's some supernatural monsters to kill n shit cuz shooting guys for the whole game is gonna be boring af