New screens for the PC/360 title Risen. Where's the hype for this? *56k*

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#1 BioShockOwnz
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Risen is being developed by the team responsible for the Gothic franchise. It looks great. What say you?

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#2 aaronmullan
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Looks very generic. Kind of reminds me of Fable II.
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#3 BioShockOwnz
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Looks very generic. Kind of reminds me of Fable II.aaronmullan

Errr, it's a fantasy RPG.

Maybe they should put it in Killzone or Gears environments. The masses would flock to it.

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#4 ImSwordMan
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from the photos it looks rather meh, is there any gameplay videos?

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#5 EazyD91
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Looks good to me, what's the release date?
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#7 rybe1025
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I am very much looking forward to this game.Looks great so far. Also curious about it now since it was banned in Australia for sex and drugs.

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#8 Marka1700
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This game just got banned were I live.

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[QUOTE="aaronmullan"]Looks very generic. Kind of reminds me of Fable II.BioShockOwnz

Errr, it's a fantasy RPG.

Maybe they should put it in Killzone or Gears environments. The masses would flock to it.

You just can't take people disagreeing with you can you? It doesn't look interesting to me either.

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#10 aflakian
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AA if it's not a buggy mess (hopefully it isn't).

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#11 Fizzman
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im optimistic. as long as the story is good, and the combat isnt terrible im gonna pick it up.

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#12 funsohng
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looks like a Gothic sequel oh wait.. same developer
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#13 AdrianWerner
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THe previews say it's very similiar atmosphere and gameplay wise to first Gothic, which is good news.

And there's no danger of it getting xboxed because the developer isn't even touching 360 dev kit, the console version is farmed out to separate company

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#14 whatisazerg
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I see nothing to hype from the screens shown.... it just looks okay... but nothing really extaordinary.

And whats with the GUI.... it looks so bland.... Diablo has a better GUI and its how many years old? 15 or more?

I realize the game isn't finished yet.... but dang.

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#15 Yandere
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It being a Action WRPG ruined any hype I could ever have for it.

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#16 AdrianWerner
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It being a Action WRPG ruined any hype I could ever have for it.

Yandere

why? You have jRPG sig and avatar and those action-rpgs are far more of an rpg than jRPGs are

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#17 HenriH-42
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And there's no danger of it getting xboxed because the developer isn't even touching 360 dev kit, the console version is farmed out to separate company

AdrianWerner

Sauce? If true, that's friggin awesome, and the game becomes a must-buy for me. I was already thinking of buying it anyway, since, y'know, it's Piranha Bytes.

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#18 monson21502
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Looks very generic. Kind of reminds me of Fable II.aaronmullan
reminds me of two worlds
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#19 aflakian
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THe previews say it's very similiar atmosphere and gameplay wise to first Gothic, which is good news.

And there's no danger of it getting xboxed because the developer isn't even touching 360 dev kit, the console version is farmed out to separate company

AdrianWerner



Good news.
Hopefully the publisher doesn't rush development ala Gothic 3.

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#20 BZSIN
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Looks like my kinda game. Yeah, it does look fairly generic, but generic doesn't mean bad.

Not really a game that I'll hype but one of those low-key titles I'll probably end up enjoying anyway.

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#21 whatisazerg
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Looks very generic. Kind of reminds me of Fable II.aaronmullan

I'd bet heavily that you've never played Fable II.... or at least not longer than 10 min.

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#22 stepat201
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It looks really average. Gothic was great, though.

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#23 Yandere
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[QUOTE="Yandere"]

It being a Action WRPG ruined any hype I could ever have for it.

AdrianWerner

why? You have jRPG sig and avatar and those action-rpgs are far more of an rpg than jRPGs are

Wow, I've never seen any table top RPG with real time combat, it's all been turn based.. You can hook me up with some if you know of any..

Anyways, you seem to be assuming that JRPG = Final Fantasy clone.. JRPGS like:

Etrain Odyssey 1/2

The Dark Spire:

Cl4ss Of Heroes, etc, etc.

Are more RPG then any action WRPG I've seen.

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#24 navyguy21
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I might try it when it gets cheaper, i LOVE WRPGs :P (it is a WRPG isnt it?? :P )
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#25 AdrianWerner
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Wow, I've never seen any table top RPG with real time combat, it's all been turn based.. You can hook me up with some if you know of any..

Anyways, you seem to be assuming that JRPG = Final Fantasy clone.. JRPGS like:

Etrain Odyssey 1/2

The Dark Spire:

Cl4ss Of Heroes, etc, etc.

Are more RPG then any action WRPG I've seen.

Yandere

you seem to be mistaking every action rpg for Diablo clone. Gothic games or Witcher were also action-rpgs, yet they were heavier on roleplaying than majority of normal wRPGs and any jRPG, including yes..Etrian Odyssey (which has about as much roleplaying as Diablo did)

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#26 Yandere
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[QUOTE="Yandere"]

Wow, I've never seen any table top RPG with real time combat, it's all been turn based.. You can hook me up with some if you know of any..

Anyways, you seem to be assuming that JRPG = Final Fantasy clone.. JRPGS like:

Etrain Odyssey 1/2

The Dark Spire:

Cl4ss Of Heroes, etc, etc.

Are more RPG then any action WRPG I've seen.

AdrianWerner

you seem to be mistaking every action rpg for Diablo clone. Gothic games or Witcher were also action-rpgs, yet they were heavier on roleplaying than majority of normal wRPGs and any jRPG, including yes..Etrian Odyssey (which has about as much roleplaying as Diablo did)

I'm not mistaking them as Diablo clones, I'm mistaking them as action games.. I just can't get the feel of "your playing an action game" out of my head when I play them, thus I dislike them. No clue what you call roleplaying, but I honestly think if it resembles tabel top RPGs it's a RPG, unless it's something like a tactical RPG.

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#27 bigblunt537
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Textures are horrid. Depending on the gameplay though it can be a rather fun game regardless.

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#28 AdrianWerner
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I'm not mistaking them as Diablo clones, I'm mistaking them as action games.. I just can't get the feel of "your playing an action game" out of my head when I play them, thus I dislike them. No clue what you call roleplaying, but I honestly think if it resembles tabel top RPGs it's a RPG, unless it's something like a tactical RPG.

Yandere

well..the mechanical side of tabletop RPGs was taken from strategy games to be honest, so judging solely by turn-based combat isn't enough. You say you feel lijke you're playing an action game, but the same could be said about Etrian Odyssey, you often feel like you're playing a tactical wargame not RPG. Combat style alone isn't enough

Och..and there actualy are tabletop RPGs with real-time combat, like Riddle of Steel, plus there are also LARPS :)

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#29 Yandere
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[QUOTE="Yandere"]

I'm not mistaking them as Diablo clones, I'm mistaking them as action games.. I just can't get the feel of "your playing an action game" out of my head when I play them, thus I dislike them. No clue what you call roleplaying, but I honestly think if it resembles tabel top RPGs it's a RPG, unless it's something like a tactical RPG.

AdrianWerner

well..the mechanical side of tabletop RPGs was taken from strategy games to be honest, so judging solely by turn-based combat isn't enough. You say you feel lijke you're playing an action game, but the same could be said about Etrian Odyssey, you often feel like you're playing a tactical wargame not RPG. Combat style alone isn't enough

Och..and there actualy are tabletop RPGs with real-time combat, like Riddle of Steel, plus there are also LARPS :)

Well, I don't only take combat, I generally try to do all the common game mechanics. Also, did you call Etrain Odyssey a Tactical RPG? It's a dungeon crawler :s.

But, let's just end it as "WRPGs and JRPGs aren't any less of a RPG then the other", no point in posting in this thread about this.

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#30 Espada12
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Could be fun, textures are bad, but then again that Darkest of days games has godawful textures and looks like a 2001 game but it's still fun because of the setting lol

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#31 AdrianWerner
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Well, I don't only take combat, I generally try to do all the common game mechanics. Also, did you call Etrain Odyssey a Tactical RPG? It's a dungeon crawler :s.Yandere

Turn-based dungeon crawlers and tactical RPGs are very similiar, in both most of what you do is fight fight and fight. Both are similiar to tactical wargames in this matter as their combat isn't much different from a wargame. Plus there are tabletop wargames that are essentialy dungeon crawlers like Warhammer Quest

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#32 Epak_
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It looks OK, nothing special though.

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#33 LeGoofyGoober
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looks very promising.

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#34 finalfantasy94
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Meh ill wait for vid reviews.

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#35 Yandere
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[QUOTE="Yandere"]

Well, I don't only take combat, I generally try to do all the common game mechanics. Also, did you call Etrain Odyssey a Tactical RPG? It's a dungeon crawler :s.AdrianWerner

Turn-based dungeon crawlers and tactical RPGs are very similiar, in both most of what you do is fight fight and fight. Both are similiar to tactical wargames in this matter as their combat isn't much different from a wargame. Plus there are tabletop wargames that are essentialy dungeon crawlers like Warhammer Quest

I don't see the similairtys between

and

Sorry for replying, the topic is more enjoyable then the original one.

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#36 AdrianWerner
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[QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]

[QUOTE="Yandere"]

Well, I don't only take combat, I generally try to do all the common game mechanics. Also, did you call Etrain Odyssey a Tactical RPG? It's a dungeon crawler :s.Yandere

Turn-based dungeon crawlers and tactical RPGs are very similiar, in both most of what you do is fight fight and fight. Both are similiar to tactical wargames in this matter as their combat isn't much different from a wargame. Plus there are tabletop wargames that are essentialy dungeon crawlers like Warhammer Quest

I don't see the similairtys between

and

Sorry for replying, the topic is more enjoyable then the original one.

how come? Both are cave/underground based and concentrate mostly on fighting

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#37 deactivated-6243ee9902175
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Hopefully the combat is a little more streamlined in this one. If they can do that then this will be a week one purchase for me most likely. I'd say it gets AA.

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#38 Yandere
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[QUOTE="Yandere"]

[QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]

Turn-based dungeon crawlers and tactical RPGs are very similiar, in both most of what you do is fight fight and fight. Both are similiar to tactical wargames in this matter as their combat isn't much different from a wargame. Plus there are tabletop wargames that are essentialy dungeon crawlers like Warhammer Quest

AdrianWerner

I don't see the similairtys between

and

Sorry for replying, the topic is more enjoyable then the original one.

how come? Both are cave/underground based and concentrate mostly on fighting

I would say the first one is outside at night time, hard to say the game wasn't released yet.

Also, the fighting mechanics differ from dungeon crawlers, and in most dungeon crawlers you have to go in, fight, go out, buy items/heal, and repeat.. No Tactical RPG that I've played has that mechanic.

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#39 Tiefster
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Looks like a wannabe Witcher/NWN2/Fable hybrid.

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#40 AdrianWerner
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Also, the fighting mechanics differ from dungeon crawlers, and in most dungeon crawlers you have to go in, fight, go out, buy items/heal, and repeat.. No Tactical RPG that I've played has that mechanic.

Yandere

Small difference. In most tactuical RPGs you still do need to visit shops and buy gear. Dungeon Crawlers and tactical rpgs aren't separate subgenres, dungeon crawl is a flavor of RPGs, you can just as well have dungeon crawling action rpgs as well as dungeon crawling tactical rpgs

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#41 AdrianWerner
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Looks like a wannabe Witcher/NWN2/Fable hybrid.

Tiefster

if you think they look similiar then it's Witcher/NWN2 and Fable that are the wannabes not Risen

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#42 -CheeseEater-
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the GUI looks pretty bland. They have some nice rendering going on, however, it's nothing mind boggling.
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#43 Cherokee_Jack
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I have to agree that it looks generic.
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#44 kings574
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Yeah the games looking great.

Been following for ages.

October 2nd:D

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#45 rybe1025
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Looks like a wannabe Witcher/NWN2/Fable hybrid.

Tiefster

So basically your just going to say a bunch of other wrpg games and say they look the same. Why not just add in Edler Scrolls, Two worlds and so on also. I guess if you want to be that general you can do the same for any type of gaming.

Also these are the developers that did Gothic so by your thinking all those games are clones of this developers style since Gothic game out before all of the ones you mentioned.

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#46 skrat_01
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This is by Pirhrana bytes yes?

Spiritual successor to Gothic 3?

I'm interested, pity its *banned in my damn country*

Thanks flawed classification board.

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#47 kings574
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This is by Pirhrana bytes yes?

Yah

Spiritual successor to Gothic 3?

Kind of since JoWood owns the rights to the Gothic Series.

I'm interested, pity its *banned in my damn country*

Thanks flawed ****fication board.

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#48 mirgamer
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This is by Pirhrana bytes yes?

Spiritual successor to Gothic 3?

I'm interested, pity its *banned in my damn country*

Thanks flawed classification board.

skrat_01

Banned? the heck why? Whats so bad about the game? Which country is this anyway?

Back to topic : If its made by the old devs of Gothic 1/2, then thats just awesome! I hope it is as good as G1/G2 were, if not better.

Knowing Piranha Bytes though, their games are...usually a lil...buggy. But its usually overshadowed by the awesome storyline/world/gameplay.

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#49 killab2oo5
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The screens do nothing for me. >>; Reminds me of Two Worlds.
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#50 ManicAce
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Looks just like Gothic3, which is not a bad thing as long as they actually finish it this time around, should be solid AA. It might not be the next graphics king, but G3 had a pretty good atmosphere thanks to lot of detail in the environments and good music to go with it, I hope this is the same.