New Witcher 2 screenshots [56k)

Don't bother with consolites... They think Mass Effect 2 is a great RPG because it's the closest thing they get to a real RPG. Good shooter with some role-playing dialogue yeah, but on the level of The Witcher or Dragone Age: Origins (PC version only)? No.oldkingallant

I don't think Mass Effect 2 is a great RPG. I think it's a much better game than The Witcher though.

Looks good. Glad I just upgraded to the Q8400 (yea I know socket 775 is outdated). Looks like I need to buy that extra RAM afterall. GTS 250 looks like its going to struggle. Guess I'll save up for a mainstream card when it comes out. LOL I've been meaning to build a new PC for the last year but I've just been so broke.

CD Projekt: 'The Witcher 2 is a pc exclusive.

Consolites: 'Witcher is boring, worst rpg ever, no storyline'

CD Projekt: 'Witcher 2 will be released on console'

Consolites: 'The Witcher is the best game ever, console graphics king confirmed!!!'

[QUOTE="oldkingallant"]Don't bother with consolites... They think Mass Effect 2 is a great RPG because it's the closest thing they get to a real RPG. Good shooter with some role-playing dialogue yeah, but on the level of The Witcher or Dragone Age: Origins (PC version only)? No.waltefmoney

I don't think Mass Effect 2 is a great RPG. I think it's a much better game than The Witcher though.

[QUOTE="oldkingallant"] Don't bother with consolites... They think Mass Effect 2 is a great RPG because it's the closest thing they get to a real RPG. Good shooter with some role-playing dialogue yeah, but on the level of The Witcher or Dragone Age: Origins (PC version only)? No.delta3074

I hated Gothic 4. Gothic 1 & 2 were masterpieces. Gothic 3 was in the middle.

[QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="oldkingallant"] Don't bother with consolites... They think Mass Effect 2 is a great RPG because it's the closest thing they get to a real RPG. Good shooter with some role-playing dialogue yeah, but on the level of The Witcher or Dragone Age: Origins (PC version only)? No.waltefmoney

I hated Gothic 4. Gothic 1 & 2 were masterpieces. Gothic 3 was in the middle.

to be honest i would agree with you on gothic 4, it's good but not as good as the others, two worlds 2 on the other hand has overtaken oblivion as my fave RPG, but when i saw thos witcher 2 shots and after looking up some info on the game i may have to move from being a console only gamer to being a console/PC gamer, it wasn't worth building a gaming rig until now.delta3074

Not a big fan of the first Witcher. But the second could be great.

[QUOTE="waltefmoney"]

[QUOTE="delta3074"]really? i am a 'consolite', and i am pretty sure that gothic 4 and two worlds 2 are great RPG's and i am playing them both on a console, wierd eh? don't think that just because someone only plays on consoles they don't know what a good RPG is and quit with the myth that there are no 'Real' RPG's on consoles either, last i checked games like oblivion, fallout 3 , Risen , gothic 4 and two worlds 2 are 'REAL' RPG's.delta3074

I hated Gothic 4. Gothic 1 & 2 were masterpieces. Gothic 3 was in the middle.

[QUOTE="delta3074"]to be honest i would agree with you on gothic 4, it's good but not as good as the others, two worlds 2 on the other hand has overtaken oblivion as my fave RPG, but when i saw thos witcher 2 shots and after looking up some info on the game i may have to move from being a console only gamer to being a console/PC gamer, it wasn't worth building a gaming rig until now.waltefmoney

Not a big fan of the first Witcher. But the second could be great.

[QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="waltefmoney"]

I hated Gothic 4. Gothic 1 & 2 were masterpieces. Gothic 3 was in the middle.

DragonfireXZ95

[QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"]

[QUOTE="delta3074"]to be honest i would agree with you on gothic 4, it's good but not as good as the others, two worlds 2 on the other hand has overtaken oblivion as my fave RPG, but when i saw thos witcher 2 shots and after looking up some info on the game i may have to move from being a console only gamer to being a console/PC gamer, it wasn't worth building a gaming rig until now.delta3074

God Oblivion was good. Skyrim is gonna be amazing.

[QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="waltefmoney"]

I hated Gothic 4. Gothic 1 & 2 were masterpieces. Gothic 3 was in the middle.

DragonfireXZ95

[QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"] Two Worlds 2 is okay, Oblivion was crap, and Gothic 4 was crap. That is some bad taste in RPG's. lol

waltefmoney

God Oblivion was good. Skyrim is gonna be amazing.

those look good

[QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"]

[QUOTE="delta3074"]to be honest i would agree with you on gothic 4, it's good but not as good as the others, two worlds 2 on the other hand has overtaken oblivion as my fave RPG, but when i saw thos witcher 2 shots and after looking up some info on the game i may have to move from being a console only gamer to being a console/PC gamer, it wasn't worth building a gaming rig until now.delta3074

whats wrong with oblivion? and who are you to tell me i have crap tastes in RPG's? just cos i have a different opinion of what a good RPG is doesn't mean i have crap taste,who the hell made you the definitive word on what is a 'good' RPG,lol

I'll tell you what's wrong with Oblivion.

Level Scaling

Cut and paste dungeons

10 voice actors throughout the whole game

Horrible story that also lasted a few measly hours

Horrible Voice acting(except for a few)

Same boring landscape cut and pasted

DLC that was completely unneeded (Horse armor anyone?)

Bad to mediocre writing

no factions and very few meaningful side quests

Bad AI

Psychic guards

Psychic shopkeepers (I won't buy that, you stole it. Really?)

and I'm sure I could go on...

[QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"] Two Worlds 2 is okay, Oblivion was crap, and Gothic 4 was crap. That is some bad taste in RPG's. lol

DragonfireXZ95

whats wrong with oblivion? and who are you to tell me i have crap tastes in RPG's? just cos i have a different opinion of what a good RPG is doesn't mean i have crap taste,who the hell made you the definitive word on what is a 'good' RPG,lol

I'll tell you what's wrong with Oblivion.

Level Scaling

Cut and paste dungeons

10 voice actors throughout the whole game

Horrible story that also lasted a few measly hours

Horrible Voice acting(except for a few)

Same boring landscape cut and pasted

DLC that was completely unneeded (Horse armor anyone?)

Bad to mediocre writing

no factions and very few meaningful side quests

Bad AI

Psychic guards

Psychic shopkeepers (I won't buy that, you stole it. Really?)

and I'm sure I could go on...

[QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"] Two Worlds 2 is okay, Oblivion was crap, and Gothic 4 was crap. That is some bad taste in RPG's. lol

DragonfireXZ95

whats wrong with oblivion? and who are you to tell me i have crap tastes in RPG's? just cos i have a different opinion of what a good RPG is doesn't mean i have crap taste,who the hell made you the definitive word on what is a 'good' RPG,lol

I'll tell you what's wrong with Oblivion.

Level Scaling

Cut and paste dungeons

10 voice actors throughout the whole game

Horrible story that also lasted a few measly hours

Horrible Voice acting(except for a few)

Same boring landscape cut and pasted

DLC that was completely unneeded (Horse armor anyone?)

Bad to mediocre writing

no factions and very few meaningful side quests

Bad AI

Psychic guards

Psychic shopkeepers (I won't buy that, you stole it. Really?)

and I'm sure I could go on...

[QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"]

[QUOTE="delta3074"]

whats wrong with oblivion? and who are you to tell me i have crap tastes in RPG's? just cos i have a different opinion of what a good RPG is doesn't mean i have crap taste,who the hell made you the definitive word on what is a 'good' RPG,loldelta3074

I'll tell you what's wrong with Oblivion.

Level Scaling

Cut and paste dungeons

10 voice actors throughout the whole game

Horrible story that also lasted a few measly hours

Horrible Voice acting(except for a few)

Same boring landscape cut and pasted

DLC that was completely unneeded (Horse armor anyone?)

Bad to mediocre writing

no factions and very few meaningful side quests

Bad AI

Psychic guards

Psychic shopkeepers (I won't buy that, you stole it. Really?)

and I'm sure I could go on...

Really? Why don't you enlighten me on what other RPG's have those problems?

Actually, it's interesting that you said that, because this guy said the same thing: http://www.gamespot.com/forums/topic/27928977/who-from-oblivion-do-you-want-to-see-again-in-skyrim?page=5

And I asked him to elaborate and he never did. I wonder why...

Did The Witcher have any of those problems? How about Baldur's Gate? Baldur's Gate 2? Gothic 1 and 2? Risen(PC version)?

I could see bad AI and bad voice acting... but why don't you explain how these RPG's have these other problems.

I don't know how you skipped the most important bit, HORRIBLE GAMEPLAY, Left click, left click, left click, game complete.Inconsistancy

That sounds exactly like The Witcher.

[QUOTE="Inconsistancy"]I don't know how you skipped the most important bit, HORRIBLE GAMEPLAY, Left click, left click, left click, game complete.waltefmoney

That sounds exactly like The Witcher.

Oblivion was a very broken game.

It gave me many good laughs I'll give it that, but what a mess of a game.

[QUOTE="waltefmoney"]

[QUOTE="Inconsistancy"]I don't know how you skipped the most important bit, HORRIBLE GAMEPLAY, Left click, left click, left click, game complete.DragonfireXZ95

That sounds exactly like The Witcher.

Good thing Oblivion doesn't end after the main quest.

[QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"][QUOTE="waltefmoney"]

That sounds exactly like The Witcher.

waltefmoney

Good thing Oblivion doesn't end after the main quest.

[QUOTE="waltefmoney"]

[QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"] No it doesn't. The Witcher's main quest is like 40 hours long. Oblivion's main quest is like 7 hours, if that.DragonfireXZ95

Good thing Oblivion doesn't end after the main quest.

That's three more than The Witcher.

[QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"][QUOTE="waltefmoney"]

Good thing Oblivion doesn't end after the main quest.

waltefmoney

That's three more than The Witcher.

Yes, coming from a guy who never even played past Chapter 2 or 3. :roll: At least I played through Oblivion. You could do the same.DragonfireXZ95

I tried. I can't stand the freaking combat!

[QUOTE="waltefmoney"]

[QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"] Yeah, too bad there's no other actual interesting quests to do except for like 5 of them.DragonfireXZ95

That's three more than The Witcher.

[QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"][QUOTE="waltefmoney"]

That's three more than The Witcher.

GeneralShowzer

Interesting that this avoided becoming a DA2 vs Witcher thread, and instead became an oblivion vs witcher thread. ferret-gamer

DA2 vs The Witcher got stale.

Oblivion was a very broken game.

It gave me many good laughs I'll give it that, but what a mess of a game.

fireballonfire

I played it a lot, I thought is was pretty good. The only let down is level scailing, I hate it, it ruins the challenge.

[QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"]Yes, coming from a guy who never even played past Chapter 2 or 3. :roll: At least I played through Oblivion. You could do the same.waltefmoney

I tried. I can't stand the freaking combat!

Only good quests in Oblivion were the painting (when you go inside it, man that was trippy) one, and the Dark Brotherhood. The rest of the game was pretty meh imo. The mainquest was so bad :lol: Go through endless Oblivion gates over and over, just terrible.

[QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"]Yes, coming from a guy who never even played past Chapter 2 or 3. :roll: At least I played through Oblivion. You could do the same.waltefmoney

I tried. I can't stand the freaking combat!

Oblivions combat was worst than The Witcher. :?

Only good quests in Oblivion were the painting (when you go inside it, man that was trippy) one, and the Dark Brotherhood. The rest of the game was pretty meh imo. The mainquest was so bad :lol: Go through endless Oblivion gates over and over, just terrible.

DreamCryotank

Yes, because judging the quests in a game compared to another game he didn't even play is justifiable.

DragonfireXZ95

I played through half the game(the cemetery). Not one memorable quest. I don't see how an RPG where the first half of the game is bad(assuming the other half is better) can be a good RPG.

[QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"]

Yes, because judging the quests in a game compared to another game he didn't even play is justifiable.

waltefmoney

I played through half the game(the cemetery). Not one memorable quest. I don't see how an RPG where the first half of the game is bad(assuming the other half is better) can be a good RPG.

That's not half the game. :lol:

There are 5 chapters and the grave yard starts in chapter 2.

Also, I don't see how an RPG that is 90% bad can be considered a good RPG like Oblivion. ;)

[QUOTE="waltefmoney"]

[QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"]Yes, coming from a guy who never even played past Chapter 2 or 3. :roll: At least I played through Oblivion. You could do the same.DreamCryotank

I tried. I can't stand the freaking combat!

Oblivions combat was worst than The Witcher. :?

They're about the same. The difference is, you can actually play Oblivion differently based on your class(like a real RPG).

That's not half the game. :lol:DragonfireXZ95

There are five main chapters + prologue and epilogue. It should have been at least good by Chapter III. It wasn't.

[QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"]That's not half the game. :lol:waltefmoney

There are five main chapters + prologue and epilogue. It should have been at least good by Chapter III. It wasn't.

[QUOTE="waltefmoney"]

[QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"]That's not half the game. :lol:DragonfireXZ95

There are five main chapters + prologue and epilogue. It should have been at least good by Chapter III. It wasn't.

I just said the Cemetery, Chapter III. Not Chapter II.

[QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"]That's not half the game. :lol:waltefmoney

There are five main chapters + prologue and epilogue. It should have been at least good by Chapter III. It wasn't.

Second half of The Witcher is amaaaazing. :P Chapter 3 onwards is when it gets awesome. :)

Second half of The Witcher is amaaaazing. :P Chapter 3 onwards is when it gets awesome. :)

DreamCryotank

So how can a game where the first half is bad be good?

[QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"][QUOTE="waltefmoney"]

There are five main chapters + prologue and epilogue. It should have been at least good by Chapter III. It wasn't.

waltefmoney

I just said the Cemetery, Chapter III. Not Chapter II.