New Xbox 720 chips now in production! POWERHOUSE Incoming?

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2413873,00.asp

Cannot wait!

I am predicting 720 will have 2 8990s in crossfire. Dunno about the cpu, too many rumors on that but it will probably be strong. When you add optimization on top of these specs...WOW. I bet AMD's avatar graphics prediction will come true.

And for those who are going to say "ya right and it will cost $1000"....720 is rumored to have subscription model so can easily price it low for intial purchase for the masses (just like how $1000 phones/tablets can be had for $400)... Whos excited!?

i'm not ready yet i'm more than happy with my Xbox 360.

meh...i'll end up getting it like I do all consoles...but it's up to MS and Sony to win me over at E3 as to which console i purchase first

*facepalms* (yes I really did that)

Freddie before you float off to your own dreamworld again, lets just restate that MS can NOT alter the laws of physics, 2 of the highest end of the new amd series of GPU would have an idle power consumption at atleast 400 Watts, and a peak at 700-800 that would be for the GPUs alone. Making it so expensive in power consumption that it would limit the potential buyerbase, does that sound logical? No good, you are catching on now.

Next is that unless you would see watercooling, or a case as big as a pc tower, two of those in X-fire would likely develop so much heat that the console would burn.

Given that the next step from AMDs GPU line has been suggested to be an incremental update, you can take the 7970 card, and look at how it works, with what specs, heat and so on.

And what you suggest is not plausible.

What you will likely get, is 1 GPU made for gaming, which might if MS fixes cooling, noise and whatnot, aswell as one way smaller GPU for media, and other none related services. So the biggest GPU would'nt need to draw too much power 24/7

Likewise why you would not see an 8 core AMX at 3.x Ghz, the Power needed for that is simply too expensive, the heat is too high for such a form factor. What you might get (and a very logical way more powerful then what you are used to) 6-8 cores at around 2.0 ghz (maybe slightly lower) would also be more realistic.

That is ofcourse, if your next X-box are not made the way a fridge is, and if it is, good lord, then that box would cost more to turn on then the monthly subscription it is rumored to have.

*facepalms* (yes I really did that)

Freddie before you float off to your own dreamworld again, lets just restate that MS can NOT alter the laws of physics, 2 of the highest end of the new amd series of GPU would have an idle power consumption at atleast 400 Watts, and a peak at 700-800 that would be for the GPUs alone. Making it so expensive in power consumption that it would limit the potential buyerbase, does that sound logical? No good, you are catching on now.

Next is that unless you would see watercooling, or a case as big as a pc tower, two of those in X-fire would likely develop so much heat that the console would burn.

Given that the next step from AMDs GPU line has been suggested to be an incremental update, you can take the 7970 card, and look at how it works, with what specs, heat and so on.

And what you suggest is not plausible.

What you will likely get, is 1 GPU made for gaming, which might if MS fixes cooling, noise and whatnot, aswell as one way smaller GPU for media, and other none related services. So the biggest GPU would'nt need to draw too much power 24/7

Likewise why you would not see an 8 core AMX at 3.x Ghz, the Power needed for that is simply too expensive, the heat is too high for such a form factor. What you might get (and a very logical way more powerful then what you are used to) 6-8 cores at around 2.0 ghz (maybe slightly lower) would also be more realistic.

That is ofcourse, if your next X-box are not made the way a fridge is, and if it is, good lord, then that box would cost more to turn on then the monthly subscription it is rumored to have.

Maddie_Larkin

Avatar graphics? Yes if you want the console to render 2 frames a day. It took a huge server farm working 24/7 to render that CGI with hundreds if not thousands of processors.CwlHeddwyn

[QUOTE="CwlHeddwyn"]Avatar graphics? Yes if you want the console to render 2 frames a day. It took a huge server farm working 24/7 to render that CGI with hundreds if not thousands of processors.fr3ddiemercury

[QUOTE="fr3ddiemercury"][QUOTE="CwlHeddwyn"]Avatar graphics? Yes if you want the console to render 2 frames a day. It took a huge server farm working 24/7 to render that CGI with hundreds if not thousands of processors.CwlHeddwyn

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2413873,00.asp

Cannot wait!

fr3ddiemercury

Of course you can't, you have no games to play, LOL.

[QUOTE="Maddie_Larkin"]

*facepalms* (yes I really did that)

Freddie before you float off to your own dreamworld again, lets just restate that MS can NOT alter the laws of physics, 2 of the highest end of the new amd series of GPU would have an idle power consumption at atleast 400 Watts, and a peak at 700-800 that would be for the GPUs alone. Making it so expensive in power consumption that it would limit the potential buyerbase, does that sound logical? No good, you are catching on now.

Next is that unless you would see watercooling, or a case as big as a pc tower, two of those in X-fire would likely develop so much heat that the console would burn.

Given that the next step from AMDs GPU line has been suggested to be an incremental update, you can take the 7970 card, and look at how it works, with what specs, heat and so on.

And what you suggest is not plausible.

What you will likely get, is 1 GPU made for gaming, which might if MS fixes cooling, noise and whatnot, aswell as one way smaller GPU for media, and other none related services. So the biggest GPU would'nt need to draw too much power 24/7

Likewise why you would not see an 8 core AMX at 3.x Ghz, the Power needed for that is simply too expensive, the heat is too high for such a form factor. What you might get (and a very logical way more powerful then what you are used to) 6-8 cores at around 2.0 ghz (maybe slightly lower) would also be more realistic.

That is ofcourse, if your next X-box are not made the way a fridge is, and if it is, good lord, then that box would cost more to turn on then the monthly subscription it is rumored to have.

fr3ddiemercury

*sigh* the powerdraw of the GPU of the 360 had around 100-120 Watts (generaously) (the PC counterpart had 150 watt)

The CPU had near idendical (since you can not work magic on cpuas you see mto belive)

The 360 had a P.Draw at around 200 Watts, and the newer slim had around 140 I think I remember.

So yeah optimized for around 20-25% more effeicient power consumption.

Have you checked the components you claim they will have in it? What AMD has stated, and the earlier family members of said componants? No?

You must not know alot about componants, electronics, and componants.

I were not measuring on the PCH draw of the componants, soley the chips. So no, I am not underestimating, anything you are overestimating.

[QUOTE="fr3ddiemercury"][QUOTE="Maddie_Larkin"]

*facepalms* (yes I really did that)

Freddie before you float off to your own dreamworld again, lets just restate that MS can NOT alter the laws of physics, 2 of the highest end of the new amd series of GPU would have an idle power consumption at atleast 400 Watts, and a peak at 700-800 that would be for the GPUs alone. Making it so expensive in power consumption that it would limit the potential buyerbase, does that sound logical? No good, you are catching on now.

Next is that unless you would see watercooling, or a case as big as a pc tower, two of those in X-fire would likely develop so much heat that the console would burn.

Given that the next step from AMDs GPU line has been suggested to be an incremental update, you can take the 7970 card, and look at how it works, with what specs, heat and so on.

And what you suggest is not plausible.

What you will likely get, is 1 GPU made for gaming, which might if MS fixes cooling, noise and whatnot, aswell as one way smaller GPU for media, and other none related services. So the biggest GPU would'nt need to draw too much power 24/7

Likewise why you would not see an 8 core AMX at 3.x Ghz, the Power needed for that is simply too expensive, the heat is too high for such a form factor. What you might get (and a very logical way more powerful then what you are used to) 6-8 cores at around 2.0 ghz (maybe slightly lower) would also be more realistic.

That is ofcourse, if your next X-box are not made the way a fridge is, and if it is, good lord, then that box would cost more to turn on then the monthly subscription it is rumored to have.

Maddie_Larkin

*sigh* the powerdraw of the GPU of the 360 had around 100-120 Watts (generaously) (the PC counterpart had 150 watt)

The CPU had near idendical (since you can not work magic on cpuas you see mto belive)

The 360 had a P.Draw at around 200 Watts, and the newer slim had around 140 I think I remember.

So yeah optimized for around 20-25% more effeicient power consumption.

Have you checked the components you claim they will have in it? What AMD has stated, and the earlier family members of said componants? No?

You must not know alot about componants, electronics, and componants.

I were not measuring on the PCH draw of the componants, soley the chips. So no, I am not underestimating, anything you are overestimating.

I am predicting 720 will have 2 of the highest end AMD 8000 GPUs in crossfire...I bet avatar graphics prediction will come true.

fr3ddiemercury

lol

[QUOTE="Maddie_Larkin"]

[QUOTE="fr3ddiemercury"] Wow. You are forgetting AMD works with Microsoft to make custom versions of the chips, built specifically for console. How do you know they haven't achieved something to allow it to work? You highly are underestimating what 720 will be likefr3ddiemercury

*sigh* the powerdraw of the GPU of the 360 had around 100-120 Watts (generaously) (the PC counterpart had 150 watt)

The CPU had near idendical (since you can not work magic on cpuas you see mto belive)

The 360 had a P.Draw at around 200 Watts, and the newer slim had around 140 I think I remember.

So yeah optimized for around 20-25% more effeicient power consumption.

Have you checked the components you claim they will have in it? What AMD has stated, and the earlier family members of said componants? No?

You must not know alot about componants, electronics, and componants.

I were not measuring on the PCH draw of the componants, soley the chips. So no, I am not underestimating, anything you are overestimating.

and then you would agree with my "unless" part, that included either a near PC tower size, OR watercooling. They are both plausible ways of fixing heat, but not powerdraw.

I am ofcourse only guessing, I aint a Tech at said plant, but the most effective way of making a console would be somewhat different. I bet my money on MS going efficient.

Who knows maybe the next MS Console really is teh size of a mid tower. and sounds like a mini jet taking off, from a buyerbase standpoint I sustect it would be a bad choice.

I wonder what they will taste like.

I wonder what they will taste like.

Lance2500

copper, warm plastic, and a hint of ceramics ^^

Man I love the smell of new electronics ^^

[QUOTE="fr3ddiemercury"][QUOTE="Maddie_Larkin"]

*sigh* the powerdraw of the GPU of the 360 had around 100-120 Watts (generaously) (the PC counterpart had 150 watt)

The CPU had near idendical (since you can not work magic on cpuas you see mto belive)

The 360 had a P.Draw at around 200 Watts, and the newer slim had around 140 I think I remember.

So yeah optimized for around 20-25% more effeicient power consumption.

Have you checked the components you claim they will have in it? What AMD has stated, and the earlier family members of said componants? No?

You must not know alot about componants, electronics, and componants.

I were not measuring on the PCH draw of the componants, soley the chips. So no, I am not underestimating, anything you are overestimating.

Maddie_Larkin

and then you would agree with my "unless" part, that included either a near PC tower size, OR watercooling. They are both plausible ways of fixing heat, but not powerdraw.

I am ofcourse only guessing, I aint a Tech at said plant, but the most effective way of making a console would be somewhat different. I bet my money on MS going efficient.

Who knows maybe the next MS Console really is teh size of a mid tower. and sounds like a mini jet taking off, from a buyerbase standpoint I sustect it would be a bad choice.

Two 8990s ? Do you know what you're saying ?

I want Fable IV (have it be like LC/ II) and a sequel to Alan Wake.

I assume you're a troll, but in the case that you're just a delusional fanboy I should inform you that your own link cites a source that says they'll be using a custom tailored 7xxx series GPU.

I still think the best either system is getting is a 7750/70 setup.

I assume you're a troll, but in the case that you're just a delusional fanboy I should inform you that your own link cites a source that says they'll be using a custom tailored 7xxx series GPU.

I still think the best either system is getting is a 7750/70 setup.

gamecubepad

[QUOTE="Maddie_Larkin"]

*facepalms* (yes I really did that)

Freddie before you float off to your own dreamworld again, lets just restate that MS can NOT alter the laws of physics, 2 of the highest end of the new amd series of GPU would have an idle power consumption at atleast 400 Watts, and a peak at 700-800 that would be for the GPUs alone. Making it so expensive in power consumption that it would limit the potential buyerbase, does that sound logical? No good, you are catching on now.

Next is that unless you would see watercooling, or a case as big as a pc tower, two of those in X-fire would likely develop so much heat that the console would burn.

Given that the next step from AMDs GPU line has been suggested to be an incremental update, you can take the 7970 card, and look at how it works, with what specs, heat and so on.

And what you suggest is not plausible.

What you will likely get, is 1 GPU made for gaming, which might if MS fixes cooling, noise and whatnot, aswell as one way smaller GPU for media, and other none related services. So the biggest GPU would'nt need to draw too much power 24/7

Likewise why you would not see an 8 core AMX at 3.x Ghz, the Power needed for that is simply too expensive, the heat is too high for such a form factor. What you might get (and a very logical way more powerful then what you are used to) 6-8 cores at around 2.0 ghz (maybe slightly lower) would also be more realistic.

That is ofcourse, if your next X-box are not made the way a fridge is, and if it is, good lord, then that box would cost more to turn on then the monthly subscription it is rumored to have.

fr3ddiemercury

And you are grossly overestimating what the 720 will be. It has been said multiple times that the next consoles will NOT be heavy of hardware.

[QUOTE="gamecubepad"]

I assume you're a troll, but in the case that you're just a delusional fanboy I should inform you that your own link cites a source that says they'll be using a custom tailored 7xxx series GPU.

I still think the best either system is getting is a 7750/70 setup.

fr3ddiemercury

7990s prices around 1000$ each...

[QUOTE="fr3ddiemercury"][QUOTE="gamecubepad"]

I assume you're a troll, but in the case that you're just a delusional fanboy I should inform you that your own link cites a source that says they'll be using a custom tailored 7xxx series GPU.

I still think the best either system is getting is a 7750/70 setup.

Bebi_vegeta

7990s prices around 1000$ each...

the kinect 2 box will have very little in the way of power, there is no point, no money in the core market, casual ftw.

[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

[QUOTE="fr3ddiemercury"] They are not certain though, I highly doubt it will be 7k series. And even IF it is, 2 crossfire 7990s + console optimization will produce graphics that current pc can only DREAM offr3ddiemercury

7990s prices around 1000$ each...

Who pays ?

[QUOTE="fr3ddiemercury"][QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

7990s prices around 1000$ each...

Bebi_vegeta

Who pays ?

As long as it is reasonably priced, and has some good games available then I'm there. If it only focuses on Kinect, tries banning used gamers, or has some kind of mandatory monthly subscription then I will pass.

I'm already prepared to go straight PC gamer this generation, so MS and Sony need to impress if they want my money.

[QUOTE="gamecubepad"]

I assume you're a troll, but in the case that you're just a delusional fanboy I should inform you that your own link cites a source that says they'll be using a custom tailored 7xxx series GPU.

I still think the best either system is getting is a 7750/70 setup.

fr3ddiemercury

You're devoted to the troll art, I'll give you that much.

Just for the hell of it, though, even a single 7970M consumes 200W under load in BF3. 2 of those in a console...lulz.

[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

[QUOTE="fr3ddiemercury"] Console makers dont pay thatfr3ddiemercury

Who pays ?

Comon sense would also oppose to the idea of having 2 X 7990 in a console...

[QUOTE="Maddie_Larkin"]

*facepalms* (yes I really did that)

Freddie before you float off to your own dreamworld again, lets just restate that MS can NOT alter the laws of physics, 2 of the highest end of the new amd series of GPU would have an idle power consumption at atleast 400 Watts, and a peak at 700-800 that would be for the GPUs alone. Making it so expensive in power consumption that it would limit the potential buyerbase, does that sound logical? No good, you are catching on now.

Next is that unless you would see watercooling, or a case as big as a pc tower, two of those in X-fire would likely develop so much heat that the console would burn.

Given that the next step from AMDs GPU line has been suggested to be an incremental update, you can take the 7970 card, and look at how it works, with what specs, heat and so on.

And what you suggest is not plausible.

What you will likely get, is 1 GPU made for gaming, which might if MS fixes cooling, noise and whatnot, aswell as one way smaller GPU for media, and other none related services. So the biggest GPU would'nt need to draw too much power 24/7

Likewise why you would not see an 8 core AMX at 3.x Ghz, the Power needed for that is simply too expensive, the heat is too high for such a form factor. What you might get (and a very logical way more powerful then what you are used to) 6-8 cores at around 2.0 ghz (maybe slightly lower) would also be more realistic.

That is ofcourse, if your next X-box are not made the way a fridge is, and if it is, good lord, then that box would cost more to turn on then the monthly subscription it is rumored to have.

fr3ddiemercury

[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

[QUOTE="fr3ddiemercury"] Console makers dont pay thatfr3ddiemercury

Who pays ?

and common sense is while they pay lower price those cards still cost way to much to be made so unless AMD is a good samaritan and gives those gpu's at a loss you can bet MS wont pay $500-600 for each of those cards

[QUOTE="fr3ddiemercury"][QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

Who pays ?

adamosmaki

and common sense is while they pay lower price those cards still cost way to much to be made so unless AMD is a good samaritan and gives those gpu's at a loss you can bet MS wont pay $500-600 for each of those cards

[QUOTE="adamosmaki"]

[QUOTE="fr3ddiemercury"] They pay much less to AMD, they dont pay retail price.....this is common sensefr3ddiemercury

and common sense is while they pay lower price those cards still cost way to much to be made so unless AMD is a good samaritan and gives those gpu's at a loss you can bet MS wont pay $500-600 for each of those cards

lol avatar graphicsthemagicbum9720

He means Avatar the Game graphics:lol:

lol will have weaker than budget ****

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2413873,00.asp

Cannot wait!

I am predicting 720 will have 2 GTX 8990s in crossfire. Dunno about the cpu, too many rumors on that but it will probably be strong. When you add optimization on top of these specs...WOW. I bet AMD's avatar graphics prediction will come true.

And for those who are going to say "ya right and it will cost $1000"....720 is rumored to have subscription model so can easily price it low for intial purchase for the masses (just like how $1000 phones/tablets can be had for $400)... Whos excited!?

fr3ddiemercury

[QUOTE="themagicbum9720"]lol avatar graphicsjhonMalcovich

He mean Avatar the Game graphics:lol:

cgi is trash you can still tell what is real or cgi in movies easily.

old movies before cgi bs>now

[QUOTE="jhonMalcovich"]

[QUOTE="themagicbum9720"]lol avatar graphicsyoupieceopoo

He mean Avatar the Game graphics:lol:

Let's not kid ourselves, despite the mediocre nature of the movie. It most definitely is a looker.

[QUOTE="youpieceopoo"][QUOTE="jhonMalcovich"]

He mean Avatar the Game graphics:lol:

ugoo18

Let's not kid ourselves, despite the mediocre nature of the movie. It most definitely is a looker.

Expensive Entry Point..

Lack of New IPs (atleast at the moment)..

Too many 3rd party titles..

..and Live fees.

I believe I'll take a break from the XBox brand next gen unless something drastic changes.

watch zombie apocolypse movie 2011 has alot of cgi bs stuff and it looks fake as **** compared to lucio fulci's zombie 1979.

watch zombie apocolypse movie 2011 has alot of cgi bs stuff and it looks fake as **** compared to lucio fulci'szombie 1979.

youpieceopoo

stop motion the animation is kinda choppy but atleast it's a real object being filmed still looks more real because it's a real object

[QUOTE="youpieceopoo"]

watch zombie apocolypse movie 2011 has alot of cgi bs stuff and it looks fake as **** compared to lucio fulci'szombie 1979.

fr3ddiemercury

[QUOTE="youpieceopoo"][QUOTE="jhonMalcovich"]

He mean Avatar the Game graphics:lol:

ugoo18

Let's not kid ourselves, despite the mediocre nature of the movie. It most definitely is a looker.