New Xbox 720 chips now in production! POWERHOUSE Incoming?

old movies before cgi bs>now

youpieceopoo

LOTR movies say HI....

[QUOTE="Basinboy"]

The idiocy...it hurts....

loosingENDS

I am sure that is what PC gamers with a 7800GTX they paid ... 600$ for !!!! (1500$ PC) said before Xenos arrived in 360 in 2005

And then it was clear who the idiots were

And today, after xbox 360 lasting 7 years and 7800GTX only 6 months, they look even worst

I will certainly never be one of these guys

7800 GTX doesn't burn ~200 watts like today's flagship GPUs.

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/graphics/display/g70-indepth_6.html

"GeForce 7800 GTX 100-110 watts".

GeForce 7800 GTX doesn't have unified shaders i.e. haven't reach compute maturity stage.

Lol, the idea of buying the Nextbox for $400 with a subscription is exciting to you?

Fail!

[QUOTE="CwlHeddwyn"]Avatar graphics? Yes if you want the console to render 2 frames a day. It took a huge server farm working 24/7 to render that CGI with hundreds if not thousands of processors.fr3ddiemercury

I am predicting 720 will have 2 8990s in crossfire.

fr3ddiemercury

[QUOTE="fr3ddiemercury"]

I am predicting 720 will have 2 8990s in crossfire.

Vaasman

TC

[QUOTE="Maddie_Larkin"]

*facepalms* (yes I really did that)

Freddie before you float off to your own dreamworld again, lets just restate that MS can NOT alter the laws of physics, 2 of the highest end of the new amd series of GPU would have an idle power consumption at atleast 400 Watts, and a peak at 700-800 that would be for the GPUs alone. Making it so expensive in power consumption that it would limit the potential buyerbase, does that sound logical? No good, you are catching on now.

Next is that unless you would see watercooling, or a case as big as a pc tower, two of those in X-fire would likely develop so much heat that the console would burn.

Given that the next step from AMDs GPU line has been suggested to be an incremental update, you can take the 7970 card, and look at how it works, with what specs, heat and so on.

And what you suggest is not plausible.

What you will likely get, is 1 GPU made for gaming, which might if MS fixes cooling, noise and whatnot, aswell as one way smaller GPU for media, and other none related services. So the biggest GPU would'nt need to draw too much power 24/7

Likewise why you would not see an 8 core AMX at 3.x Ghz, the Power needed for that is simply too expensive, the heat is too high for such a form factor. What you might get (and a very logical way more powerful then what you are used to) 6-8 cores at around 2.0 ghz (maybe slightly lower) would also be more realistic.

That is ofcourse, if your next X-box are not made the way a fridge is, and if it is, good lord, then that box would cost more to turn on then the monthly subscription it is rumored to have.

fr3ddiemercury

[QUOTE="CwlHeddwyn"]Avatar graphics? Yes if you want the console to render 2 frames a day. It took a huge server farm working 24/7 to render that CGI with hundreds if not thousands of processors.fr3ddiemercury

[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

[QUOTE="fr3ddiemercury"] Console makers dont pay thatfr3ddiemercury

Who pays ?

Might get 50% off maybe 60% so your still looking at $400+cpu+ram+hdd+disk drive+power supply+case+profit for microsoft. Do you really want a $1000+ console? No way ms will do that it wouldn't sell.

[QUOTE="MonsieurX"][QUOTE="fr3ddiemercury"] Again...

THEY DIDNT SAY IT WILL HAVE AVATAR GRAPHICS, IT WILL HAVE ALMOST AVATAR GRAPHICS

THEY DIDNT SAY IT WILL HAVE AVATAR GRAPHICS, IT WILL HAVE ALMOST AVATAR GRAPHICS

THEY DIDNT SAY IT WILL HAVE AVATAR GRAPHICS, IT WILL HAVE ALMOST AVATAR GRAPHICS

Do you get it now?

fr3ddiemercury

What the hell are you babbling about here ???

Those CGI movies are rendered 1 single frame at a time using all that power, it's not like they are running at any stable frame as in games :roll:

You really have no clue .

.

Wow. You are forgetting AMD works with Microsoft to make custom versions of the chips, built specifically for console. How do you know they haven't achieved something to allow it to work? You highly are underestimating what 720 will be like

fr3ddiemercury

"Our semi-custom APUs already have a number of confidential high-volume design wins in place"- Rory Read (AMD CEO)

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="fr3ddiemercury"] You hermits are such hypocrites. Every time AMD or Nvidia hype their new cards, you go apesh!t over them, yet when its monster news for 720 GPU, it must be lies. You can't have it both ways you know....fr3ddiemercury

it's not hypocrisy when hermit 1 says one thing and hermit 2 says something else.

i'm not going to comment on the second part but who are these people who did what you're describing and what exactly did they say?

2 generations, 2 last places. I think its time for MS to give up.DaBrainz

"made a profit. let's give up?"

2 generations, 2 last places. I think its time for MS to give up.DaBrainz

[QUOTE="silversix_"]i think people saying the next xbox will have such gpu's never played a pc game and have no flying sh!t idea wtf they're talking about. Two 8990? LIKE REALLY? Do you even think before writing? Be EXTREMELY happy if xbox launches with a gpu equivalent to the gtx 660 and be extremely, i really mean it. Two 8990 HAHAHAHA.loosingENDS

In 2005 xbox 360 had a GPU 1000x better than the top 600$ GPU of late 2005, 7800GTX

You have to live with that

And we are not even in late 2013 !!!!

A shining example of why greece is broke and draggin the EU down. The above post is a product of the greek education system.

[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

[QUOTE="silversix_"]i think people saying the next xbox will have such gpu's never played a pc game and have no flying sh!t idea wtf they're talking about. Two 8990? LIKE REALLY? Do you even think before writing? Be EXTREMELY happy if xbox launches with a gpu equivalent to the gtx 660 and be extremely, i really mean it. Two 8990 HAHAHAHA.percuvius2

In 2005 xbox 360 had a GPU 1000x better than the top 600$ GPU of late 2005, 7800GTX

You have to live with that

And we are not even in late 2013 !!!!

A shining example of why greece is broke and draggin the EU down. The above post is a product of the greek education system.

:lol: :lol:

[QUOTE="percuvius2"]

[QUOTE="fr3ddiemercury"] AMD said "close to avatar graphics" or something like that. Basically they will be close enough, just with some jaggies even at 1080p. But actual technical graphics can come close. AMD said this, they make the chips. I trust them more than any random system wars poster

fr3ddiemercury

Why not change your name to GULLIBLE then?

Prove it with a quote from me then? I'll wait here....I already told you there is no such thing as a 720. When ATi or nvidia announce a new GPU they actually RELEASE THE SPECS, show me the released specs of the neXtBOX's GPU? Ph that's right, not released yet. See the difference?

I wonder if it will be 3rd place gfx, yet again.

Jankarcop

This isn't a sony thread. That piece of shlt can't even run Dawnguard

[QUOTE="Basinboy"]

The idiocy...it hurts....

loosingENDS

I am sure that is what PC gamers with a 7800GTX they paid ... 600$ for !!!! (1500$ PC) said before Xenos arrived in 360 in 2005

And then it was clear who the idiots were

And today, after xbox 360 lasting 7 years and 7800GTX only 6 months, they look even worst

I will certainly never be one of these guys

Every one otther than you can operate a PC properly. Your broke greek education system has you gaming on a piece of shlt low powered PC, I'VE SEEN THE SHOTS YOU POST. I don't know anyone with a PC who's gra[phics look anywhere near as bad as the screens you post. HAHAHA sucks to be you, stick to sub-par consolized versions it's all you can afford in greece.

2 generations, 2 last places. I think its time for MS to give up.DaBrainz

MS wipes the floor with sony in NA which is the only gaming market that even matters.

[QUOTE="DaBrainz"]2 generations, 2 last places. I think its time for MS to give up.percuvius2

MS wipes the floor with sony in NA which is the only gaming market that even matters.

'MURICA

SEEMS IGN AGREES WITH ME AND IT WILL BE A MONSTER!!

http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/01/07/10-bold-xbox-predictions-for-2013

Get ready to eat your words :)

SEEMS IGN AGREES WITH ME AND IT WILL BE A MONSTER!!

http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/01/07/10-bold-xbox-predictions-for-2013

Get ready to eat your words :)

fr3ddiemercury

[QUOTE="fr3ddiemercury"]

SEEMS IGN AGREES WITH ME AND IT WILL BE A MONSTER!!

http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/01/07/10-bold-xbox-predictions-for-2013

Get ready to eat your words :)

MonsieurX

[QUOTE="MonsieurX"][QUOTE="fr3ddiemercury"]

SEEMS IGN AGREES WITH ME AND IT WILL BE A MONSTER!!

http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/01/07/10-bold-xbox-predictions-for-2013

Get ready to eat your words :)

fr3ddiemercury

gaming goat

[QUOTE="fr3ddiemercury"][QUOTE="MonsieurX"] Agree? Predictions onlyCaseyWegner

gaming goat

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="fr3ddiemercury"] They have inside info, how do you think they always predict correct rumors?fr3ddiemercury

gaming goat

inside joke.

SEEMS IGN AGREES WITH ME AND IT WILL BE A MONSTER!!

http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/01/07/10-bold-xbox-predictions-for-2013

Get ready to eat your words :)

fr3ddiemercury

IGN said the XBOX will have 2x8990 ?

1 AMD 7990 is £599.99 ($899.99 or $999.99 for an overclocked version in Newegg) at todays prices and you honestly believe they are going to sink 2 AMD 8990's into a console, the cost alone says no. Remember all the other parts such as Kinnect 2 and the surface controller and of course the 8 core/8 thread cpu, 500gb - 1Tb solid state HDD, 8Gb 2400 DDR3, motherboard, Blueray drive, cooling and a portable power station. You'll be looking at £2000 release price.

Or do you think that MS are going to take an enormous loss on each unit and sell this mythical beat for £400?

Xbox runs on magic jesus power am confirmed

We will see....the tech demo from Square was very impressive. Though I am not going to get the next Xbox unless MS makes some BIG changes.

We will see....the tech demo from Square was very impressive. Though I am not going to get the next Xbox unless MS makes some BIG changes.

ShadowMoses900

*cough*running on PC*cough*

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

We will see....the tech demo from Square was very impressive. Though I am not going to get the next Xbox unless MS makes some BIG changes.

Masenkoe

*cough*running on PC*cough*

[QUOTE="Masenkoe"]

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

We will see....the tech demo from Square was very impressive. Though I am not going to get the next Xbox unless MS makes some BIG changes.

wis3boi

*cough*running on PC*cough*

[QUOTE="Masenkoe"]

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

We will see....the tech demo from Square was very impressive. Though I am not going to get the next Xbox unless MS makes some BIG changes.

wis3boi

*cough*running on PC*cough*

Here's some info about 7870 vs 8870.... The HD 8800 series is basically a re branded HD 7800 series... http://www.amd.com/us/Documents/AMD_...re_Summary.pdf Identical shader numbers and performance. And still has 175w TDP it being 28nm.

http://www.techpowerup.com/gpudb/1973/AMD_Radeon_HD_8870_OEM.html

Which mean no 7870/ 8870 or better gpu

Still it the ratio holds The HD 8850 (if it is a rebranded HD 7850) @ 800MHz would be ~1.6TFLOPs.

[QUOTE="Masenkoe"]

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

We will see....the tech demo from Square was very impressive. Though I am not going to get the next Xbox unless MS makes some BIG changes.

wis3boi

*cough*running on PC*cough*

Here's some info about 7870 vs 8870.... The HD 8800 series is basically a re branded HD 7800 series... http://www.amd.com/us/Documents/AMD_...re_Summary.pdf Identical shader numbers and performance. And still has 175w TDP it being 28nm.

http://www.techpowerup.com/gpudb/1973/AMD_Radeon_HD_8870_OEM.html

Which mean no 7870/ 8870 or better gpu

Still it the ratio holds The HD 8850 (if it is a rebranded HD 7850) @ 800MHz would be ~1.6TFLOPs.

04dcarraher

http://www.amd.com/us/products/desktop/graphics/7000/7850/Pages/radeon-7850.aspx

7850 has 1.76 TFLOPS

AMD's OEM (not retail) product renames http://www.anandtech.com/show/6570/amds-annual-gpu-rebadge-radeon-hd-8000-series-for-oems Only the 8500 to 8600 are new.

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

We will see....the tech demo from Square was very impressive. Though I am not going to get the next Xbox unless MS makes some BIG changes.

Masenkoe

*cough*running on PC*cough*

*cough* using next gen specs *cough*

All tech demos are done using next gen specs, why would they show it on a 720 if the system hasn't been revealed yet? Common sense and SW never seems to mix.

[QUOTE="wis3boi"]

[QUOTE="Masenkoe"]

*cough*running on PC*cough*

faizan_faizan

Lol no. It is funny though.

Looks like the choice for gamers next gen will be

Buy a xbox 720 for max $600

or

spend $7000 on a PC gaming rig to get similar graphics.

tough choice.

Looks like the choice for gamers next gen will be

Buy a xbox 720 for max $600

or

spend $7000 on a PC gaming rig to get similar graphics.

tough choice.

Evo_nine

10000$ on PC, I also upgrade everyday.

[QUOTE="Masenkoe"]

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

We will see....the tech demo from Square was very impressive. Though I am not going to get the next Xbox unless MS makes some BIG changes.

ShadowMoses900

*cough*running on PC*cough*

*cough* using next gen specs *cough*

All tech demos are done using next gen specs, why would they show it on a 720 if the system hasn't been revealed yet? Common sense and SW never seems to mix.

For some reason I just highly doubt next gen consoles will have the power of an i7 and a GTX 680, but the consolites all think this next gen will be powered by god and run on magic and rainbows and be better than anything the world has ever witnessed.

[QUOTE="Evo_nine"]

Looks like the choice for gamers next gen will be

Buy a xbox 720 for max $600

or

spend $7000 on a PC gaming rig to get similar graphics.

tough choice.

Bebi_vegeta

10000$ on PC, I also upgrade everyday.

Step your game up,

I UPGRADE WEEKLY

[QUOTE="Evo_nine"]

Looks like the choice for gamers next gen will be

Buy a xbox 720 for max $600

or

spend $7000 on a PC gaming rig to get similar graphics.

tough choice.

Bebi_vegeta

10000$ on PC, I also upgrade everyday.

If you aren't having multiple packaged upgrades sent to your house every hour by your private mailing company then what's the point?