Newest build of The Conduit looks on par with Halo 3 graphically

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#151 crazy-player
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[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"][QUOTE="crazy-player"][QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"] It actually looks pretty good if you remember it is on the Wii. Very few Wii games reach that level of visuals at this stage, and very few that don't have a Nintendo logo on them.

But isn't it a "next" gen console just like the 360, and PS3? It should be compared to the other consoles, shouldn't it? Or do sheep want the Wii to be treated in its own inferior league?

How about you judge it for what it is and not what it could be on another system. Should the 360 and PS3 games be judged against high-end PC games on max settings?

No it should be compared to the 360, PS3. It's a console. Everyone knows that the PC is on it's league of its own, but this is a good thing because it's actually an improvement over consoles, not a downgrade.
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#152 loco145
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[QUOTE="lolwotrickroll"] so how come the wii can't when it's stronger than the gamecube*the strongest of the 3 last gen*SpruceCaboose
The Xbox was more powerful than the GameCube.

Debatable.

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#153 lolwotrickroll
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[QUOTE="crazy-player"][QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"] It actually looks pretty good if you remember it is on the Wii. Very few Wii games reach that level of visuals at this stage, and very few that don't have a Nintendo logo on them.loco145

But isn't it a "next" gen console just like the 360, and PS3? It should be compared to the other consoles, shouldn't it? Or do sheep want the Wii to be treated in its own inferior league?

The fact that is a modern IR Pointer FPS puts it above all of the HD-gen FPSes.

sorry buddy, but no it doesn't. you fail because you fail to realize that your opinion fails. motion controls dont make the game buddy. same goes for graphics. I expect games on the wii that are just as good on the ps3/360, but with lower quality graphics. instead I get junk. im starting to regret buying my wii, and if nintendo keeps this up then I will no longer be a nintendo fan. "who cares if nintendo loses one fan?" you may ask. well nintendo is losing more than just me ill tell ya that
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#154 LGTX
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Even if it has more poligons or bigger textures or up-to-date effects(which I highly doubt) The Wii-s graphical libraries won't produce them even close to the X360, or even DirectX-quality. And that without talking about low resolutions. Photoshop or not, It's physically impossible.
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[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"][QUOTE="lolwotrickroll"] so how come the wii can't when it's stronger than the gamecube*the strongest of the 3 last gen*loco145

The Xbox was more powerful than the GameCube.

Debatable.

ehh they're pretty even. but they were more powerful than the ps2
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#156 SpruceCaboose
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[QUOTE="crazy-player"] No it should be compared to the 360, PS3. It's a console. Everyone knows that the PC is on it's league of its own, but this is a good thing because it's actually an improvement over consoles, not a downgrade.

Whats good for one is good for them all. If you want to judge things against things outside their league, you have to judge the PS3 and 360 against the PC, as its only fair, since they are all systems. At least here on SW they are.
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#157 SpruceCaboose
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[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"][QUOTE="lolwotrickroll"] so how come the wii can't when it's stronger than the gamecube*the strongest of the 3 last gen*loco145

The Xbox was more powerful than the GameCube.

Debatable.

No, its not. The GameCube was close, but it is certainly weaker than the Xbox.
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#158 crazy-player
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[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"][QUOTE="crazy-player"] No it should be compared to the 360, PS3. It's a console. Everyone knows that the PC is on it's league of its own, but this is a good thing because it's actually an improvement over consoles, not a downgrade.

Whats good for one is good for them all. If you want to judge things against things outside their league, you have to judge the PS3 and 360 against the PC, as its only fair, since they are all systems. At least here on SW they are.

Even if it was compared, it wouldn't be such as a difference as the Wii to consoles. It's really unacceptable, the Wii should be on par but it isn't. It's missing great online, HD games, more "core" games, and graphics on par with the consoles.
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#159 loco145
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[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"][QUOTE="crazy-player"] No it should be compared to the 360, PS3. It's a console. Everyone knows that the PC is on it's league of its own, but this is a good thing because it's actually an improvement over consoles, not a downgrade.crazy-player
Whats good for one is good for them all. If you want to judge things against things outside their league, you have to judge the PS3 and 360 against the PC, as its only fair, since they are all systems. At least here on SW they are.

Even if it was compared, it wouldn't be such as a difference as the Wii to consoles. It's really unacceptable, the Wii should be on par but it isn't. It's missing great online, HD games, more "core" games, and graphics on par with the consoles.

Lots of weasel words there.

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#160 SpruceCaboose
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[QUOTE="crazy-player"][QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"][QUOTE="crazy-player"] No it should be compared to the 360, PS3. It's a console. Everyone knows that the PC is on it's league of its own, but this is a good thing because it's actually an improvement over consoles, not a downgrade.

Whats good for one is good for them all. If you want to judge things against things outside their league, you have to judge the PS3 and 360 against the PC, as its only fair, since they are all systems. At least here on SW they are.

Even if it was compared, it wouldn't be such as a difference as the Wii to consoles. It's really unacceptable, the Wii should be on par but it isn't. It's missing great online, HD games, more "core" games, and graphics on par with the consoles.

Because the Wii was not going for the same goals as the PS3 and 360 were. And judging objectively, it seems as if they made the smarter choice for themselves.
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#161 V_Zarnold_N
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[QUOTE="Giancar"]I don't have even to watch the trailer to know it doesn't look on par :| Seriously when this game flops... *sighs*TheNextOrder

Halo 3's graphics look pretty last gen so I disagree. They used the same engine from Halo 2 and made it HD.

lol you must be smoking something seriously... do we have to put halo 2 vs halo 3 pics up in here? I used to think that halo 2 and halo 3 looked pretty similar graphically but then i went back and played halo 2 and it looks like garbage compared to 3
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#162 ganon546
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I wouldn't go that far. It's definitely one of the best looking Wii games, but I don't think it's looks on par with Halo 3 yet.

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#163 loco145
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[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"][QUOTE="crazy-player"] No it should be compared to the 360, PS3. It's a console. Everyone knows that the PC is on it's league of its own, but this is a good thing because it's actually an improvement over consoles, not a downgrade.crazy-player
Whats good for one is good for them all. If you want to judge things against things outside their league, you have to judge the PS3 and 360 against the PC, as its only fair, since they are all systems. At least here on SW they are.

Even if it was compared, it wouldn't be such as a difference as the Wii to consoles. It's really unacceptable, the Wii should be on par but it isn't. It's missing great online, HD games, more "core" games, and graphics on par with the consoles.

Lots of weasel words there.

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#164 crazy-player
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[QUOTE="crazy-player"][QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"] Whats good for one is good for them all. If you want to judge things against things outside their league, you have to judge the PS3 and 360 against the PC, as its only fair, since they are all systems. At least here on SW they are.loco145

Even if it was compared, it wouldn't be such as a difference as the Wii to consoles. It's really unacceptable, the Wii should be on par but it isn't. It's missing great online, HD games, more "core" games, and graphics on par with the consoles.

Lots of weasel words there.

What do you mean by weasel words? Explain.
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#165 Brainkiller05
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Wii should stick to what it does best  and no, it doesn't look as good as Halo 3 :P
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#166 GTR_FX
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:lol:

the TC thinks this:

looks better than this:

man you have to be pretty blind

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#167 loco145
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[QUOTE="loco145"]

[QUOTE="crazy-player"] Even if it was compared, it wouldn't be such as a difference as the Wii to consoles. It's really unacceptable, the Wii should be on par but it isn't. It's missing great online, HD games, more "core" games, and graphics on par with the consoles.crazy-player

Lots of weasel words there.

What do you mean by weasel words? Explain.

Weasel words is an informal term for words that are ambiguous and not supported by facts. They are typically used to create an illusion of clear, direct communication.

Weasel words are usually expressed with deliberate imprecision with the intention to mislead the listeners or readers into believing statements for which sources are not readily available. Tactics that are used include:

* vague generalizations
* use of the passive voice
* non sequitur statements
* use of grammatical devices such as qualifiers and the subjunctive mood
* use of euphemisms (e.g., replacing "firing staff" with "streamlining the workforce")

Source.

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#168 V_Zarnold_N
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Conduit for the win. Conduit >> Halo 3

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well i would just like you to know, if and when the conduit earns a bigger fan base than halo 3, looks better than halo 3, has a better multiplayer than halo 3, has a better story than the halo series in general, and it outsells halo 3, i will throw my 360 out of the window and into the parking lot. However because even goldeneye graphically >> the conduit i doubt it will happen.
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#169 crazy-player
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[QUOTE="crazy-player"][QUOTE="loco145"]Lots of weasel words there.

loco145

What do you mean by weasel words? Explain.

Weasel words is an informal term for words that are ambiguous and not supported by facts. They are typically used to create an illusion of clear, direct communication.

Weasel words are usually expressed with deliberate imprecision with the intention to mislead the listeners or readers into believing statements for which sources are not readily available. Tactics that are used include:

* vague generalizations
* use of the passive voice
* non sequitur statements
* use of grammatical devices such as qualifiers and the subjunctive mood
* use of euphemisms (e.g., replacing "firing staff" with "streamlining the workforce")

Source.

Ah, I see. But you are wrong, those things I have stated are true.

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#170 lolwotrickroll
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[QUOTE="crazy-player"][QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"] Whats good for one is good for them all. If you want to judge things against things outside their league, you have to judge the PS3 and 360 against the PC, as its only fair, since they are all systems. At least here on SW they are.SpruceCaboose
Even if it was compared, it wouldn't be such as a difference as the Wii to consoles. It's really unacceptable, the Wii should be on par but it isn't. It's missing great online, HD games, more "core" games, and graphics on par with the consoles.

Because the Wii was not going for the same goals as the PS3 and 360 were. And judging objectively, it seems as if they made the smarter choice for themselves.

but not for the fans. I wanted new games. I mean nintendo has this new funky hardware to make some unique games, but they give us wii sports. then they go "oh don't worry we making betta games for wii new zelda and new play control for old games!" wow. just sad. cmon everyone knows nintendo is better than that. nintendo had more revolutionary stuff on the effin gamecube for god's steak(mmm steak). oh and since nintendo has made a lot of money Id suggest that they use that money to up the production values of their upcoming games... but it seems like their not
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#171 SpruceCaboose
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:lol:

the TC thinks this:

*pic*

looks better than this:

*pic*

man you have to be pretty blind

GTR_FX

He could have gotten away with "Looks close to Halo 2". That would be acceptable and believable.

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#172 lolwotrickroll
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I wouldn't go that far. It's definitely one of the best looking Wii games, but I don't think it's looks on par with Halo 3 yet.

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nope. it's actually one of the worst
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#173 crazy-player
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[QUOTE="ganon546"]

I wouldn't go that far. It's definitely one of the best looking Wii games, but I don't think it's looks on par with Halo 3 yet.

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nope. it's actually one of the worst

Not the worst, but I really hate the art sty.le. Very generic, and the models look wierd.
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#174 SpruceCaboose
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[QUOTE="lolwotrickroll"] but not for the fans. I wanted new games. I mean nintendo has this new funky hardware to make some unique games, but they give us wii sports. then they go "oh don't worry we making betta games for wii new zelda and new play control for old games!" wow. just sad. cmon everyone knows nintendo is better than that. nintendo had more revolutionary stuff on the effin gamecube for god's steak(mmm steak). oh and since nintendo has made a lot of money Id suggest that they use that money to up the production values of their upcoming games... but it seems like their not

For one, I said for them. For two, it appears as if the non-core fans (who are still fans) are enjoying their software, as it still sells like mad. And three, there are many more games on the Wii than just Wii Sports, even core games. You just need to look outside the hyped games, as the big sellers on the Wii are not core games, where they are on the 360 and PS3.
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#175 lolwotrickroll
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[QUOTE="crazy-player"][QUOTE="lolwotrickroll"][QUOTE="ganon546"]

I wouldn't go that far. It's definitely one of the best looking Wii games, but I don't think it's looks on par with Halo 3 yet.

nope. it's actually one of the worst

Not the worst, but I really hate the art sty.le. Very generic, and the models look wierd.

metroid prime 3 looks TONS better than this game. and yeah the game also looks very generic
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#176 world69star69
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http://wii.ign.com/dor/objects/14248157/the-conduit/videos/conduit_devfeaturesvid_011509.html

Not that Halo 3 is known for its graphics, but I'd say the newest build of The Conduit is about on par.

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Actually after looking at those vids I am impressed on what this dev can do with the wii....I may actually dust mine off for the first time in a year just to play this.... It actually looks good and has good features. As for better looking than HAlo, hell yeah!! Of course I hate the look of halo , and just can't stand Halo in general(most over-hyped game that gets too much undeserved praise!) This game looks great for being on the wii!
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[QUOTE="lolwotrickroll"] but not for the fans. I wanted new games. I mean nintendo has this new funky hardware to make some unique games, but they give us wii sports. then they go "oh don't worry we making betta games for wii new zelda and new play control for old games!" wow. just sad. cmon everyone knows nintendo is better than that. nintendo had more revolutionary stuff on the effin gamecube for god's steak(mmm steak). oh and since nintendo has made a lot of money Id suggest that they use that money to up the production values of their upcoming games... but it seems like their notSpruceCaboose
For one, I said for them. For two, it appears as if the non-core fans (who are still fans) are enjoying their software, as it still sells like mad. And three, there are many more games on the Wii than just Wii Sports, even core games. You just need to look outside the hyped games, as the big sellers on the Wii are not core games, where they are on the 360 and PS3.

yeah I know you were talkn bout them. but I dont see how the old fans are still enjoying the wii. my wii is gathering dust*I still haven't found okami yet tho lol*. when looking at the wii's upcoming library, I was just like meh. nothing exciting came to mind. of course thats my opinion, but the wii games just lack this flair that the ps3/360 games have. it's not the graphics, but the gameplay. they don't look like ill be addicted to them you know? maybe ill be wrong, but there is just something about the new wii games that got me goin "...meh"
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I'm not convinced. This site by at large is biased in favor of the HD console and there are far more 360 owners here than Wii owners, and there are far more Halo 3 fanboys here than Conduit fanboys. Thus your responses are proportionate to what you are partial to.

To me they look pretty close. Maybe I'd say Halo 3 has slightly tighter resolution and a more cartoony look, while the Conduit is going more for realism. I don't think either one of them are world beaters asfar as graphics are concerned.

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I suggest you get your eyes checked because you know and I know that the conduit doesn't lookclose to Halo 3 at all. Maybe Halo or Halo 2 but not 3.

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[QUOTE="world69star69"][QUOTE="TheNextOrder"]

http://wii.ign.com/dor/objects/14248157/the-conduit/videos/conduit_devfeaturesvid_011509.html

Not that Halo 3 is known for its graphics, but I'd say the newest build of The Conduit is about on par.

Actually after looking at those vids I am impressed on what this dev can do with the wii....I may actually dust mine off for the first time in a year just to play this.... It actually looks good and has good features. As for better looking than HAlo, hell yeah!! Of course I hate the look of halo , and just can't stand Halo in general(most over-hyped game that gets too much undeserved praise!) This game looks great for being on the wii!

metroid prime 3>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>dogturd>conduit
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#180 SpruceCaboose
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[QUOTE="lolwotrickroll"] yeah I know you were talkn bout them. but I dont see how the old fans are still enjoying the wii. my wii is gathering dust*I still haven't found okami yet tho lol*. when looking at the wii's upcoming library, I was just like meh. nothing exciting came to mind. of course thats my opinion, but the wii games just lack this flair that the ps3/360 games have. it's not the graphics, but the gameplay. they don't look like ill be addicted to them you know? maybe ill be wrong, but there is just something about the new wii games that got me goin "...meh"

I would be using my Wii alot more if I could find a copy of Mario Kart Wii. The game is completely sold out everywhere in my town. Has been for a while now... :cry:
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#181 Soulja_West
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[QUOTE="world69star69"][QUOTE="TheNextOrder"]

http://wii.ign.com/dor/objects/14248157/the-conduit/videos/conduit_devfeaturesvid_011509.html

Not that Halo 3 is known for its graphics, but I'd say the newest build of The Conduit is about on par.

Actually after looking at those vids I am impressed on what this dev can do with the wii....I may actually dust mine off for the first time in a year just to play this.... It actually looks good and has good features. As for better looking than HAlo, hell yeah!! Of course I hate the look of halo , and just can't stand Halo in general(most over-hyped game that gets too much undeserved praise!) This game looks great for being on the wii!

Impressed? Theres nothing impressive about the Conduit.
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#182 RobbieH1234
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Halo 2, maybe. Hell, it looks about the same as NOLF 2 which came out in 2002.

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#183 Eddie-Vedder
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No.

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[QUOTE="lolwotrickroll"] yeah I know you were talkn bout them. but I dont see how the old fans are still enjoying the wii. my wii is gathering dust*I still haven't found okami yet tho lol*. when looking at the wii's upcoming library, I was just like meh. nothing exciting came to mind. of course thats my opinion, but the wii games just lack this flair that the ps3/360 games have. it's not the graphics, but the gameplay. they don't look like ill be addicted to them you know? maybe ill be wrong, but there is just something about the new wii games that got me goin "...meh"SpruceCaboose
I would be using my Wii alot more if I could find a copy of Mario Kart Wii. The game is completely sold out everywhere in my town. Has been for a while now... :cry:

that stinks. honestly tho I tried mario kart wii, and it's nothing much really. id still have just as much fun with my family in double dash
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You have got to be ******** me... :|
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#186 kansasdude2009
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lol, WHAT?

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#187 AlexSays
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I dont see how the old fans are still enjoying the wii.lolwotrickroll
Somehow I've enjoyed the console since launch, so there's that... That's why we're all unique like snowflakes.
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#188 deactivated-5967f36c08c33
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No.

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This pretty much sums it up.Maybe (and this is already pushing it,looking at what the Conduit offers,or doesn't offer,depending on how you look at it) one could state that the art styIe is superior,maybe,but technically speaking?Not even close.

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#189 SMR-Venom
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http://www.nintendoeverything.com/?p=11941 Here is the latest build of The Conduit, from a new trailer. It looks good but doesn't come close to any 360 game, besides maybe Gun. Aside from that, the trailers is actually well made lol...
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#190 munu9
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I think you meant it looks on part with "Halo 2"
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#191 jessesalinas
Member since 2007 • 2935 Posts
Graphics: Chronicles of Riddick(xbox) >>>>>>>>>>>Conduit
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#192 MetroidPrimePwn
Member since 2007 • 12399 Posts

The thread title had my hopes up for the idea of this game looking good, but then the trailers re-confirmed the fact that this will be garbage to me...

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#193 kaangonultas
Member since 2008 • 1647 Posts
Black on ps2 is better looking than this game. sorry but true
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#194 Innovazero2000
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It looks very good for a Wii game, but lets get real here...it doesn't touch Halo 3.

Does it have up to 2048x2048 normal mapped textures? Nope

Does it have the GI rendered HDR lighting system Halo has? Nope

Does it have the geometry that Halo has? Nope

Draw Distance? Nope

Resolution - Nope

Come on man...

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#195 Mckenna1845
Member since 2005 • 4410 Posts
nope nothing alike, halo 3 actually has pretty nice graphics, the conduit looks decent though, better than last gen, but not halo 3.
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#196 FragTycoon
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I think it's safe to say,

FAIL!

If it's a game that your looking forward to on the Wii, that's fine. But please understand the limitations of the system and come to terms with it.

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#197 JTH_22
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Quote me if you want: The Conduit will be the Wii's Haze. Flop.

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#198 gamefan67
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ummmmmm.....no.
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#199 deactivated-61010a1ed19f4
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[QUOTE="Giancar"]I don't have even to watch the trailer to know it doesn't look on par :| Seriously when this game flops... *sighs*TheNextOrder

Halo 3's graphics look pretty last gen so I disagree. They used the same engine from Halo 2 and made it HD.

You actually tell yourself that ?
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#200 Dingerious
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I'm the biggest Conduit fanboy around and even I'm not so delusional as to think The Conduit even comes close to Halo 3.

Halo 2, on the other hand...