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#401 CroidX
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[QUOTE="StrongBlackVine"]

For a game that no one cares about Killzone generates a lot of conversation.

Day One Buy.

faizan_faizan

I sure don't like linear generic scripted first person shooters. COD clone #6632 incoming.

 

I guess you will enjoy arma 3 more :cool:

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#402 killzowned24
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[QUOTE="faizan_faizan"] Which means it doesn't look that great at 1080p :(-Unreal-

it would look even better at a higher resolution because more detail would be perceivable.

 

its just a silly fanboy thing to say but the gif is small,no duh gifs are meant to be small. most image site won't even allow gifs over around 3 mb.

It's just a silly fanboy thing to post a 400x225 gif image to show how a game that (apparently) runs at 3840×2160 resolution looks.

so gifs are silly now? lol, at the butthurt!!!!
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[QUOTE="-Unreal-"]

[QUOTE="killzowned24"] it would look even better at a higher resolution because more detail would be perceivable.

 

its just a silly fanboy thing to say but the gif is small,no duh gifs are meant to be small. most image site won't even allow gifs over around 3 mb.

killzowned24

It's just a silly fanboy thing to post a 400x225 gif image to show how a game that (apparently) runs at 3840×2160 resolution looks.

so gifs are silly now? lol, at the butthurt!!!!

Strawman argument confirms you're butthurt.
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#404 RawDeal_basic
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2007 PC game with 3 free mods installed-

crysismoddedbeachsandbirdsrocksjpg_zps62

 

KZ-SF:

 

kzsf_ss_2013-06-12_shadowfall-e3_05.jpg

hartsickdiscipl

Dude... that Crysis shot is freaking horrible.

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#405 CroidX
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[QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]

2007 PC game with 3 free mods installed-

crysismoddedbeachsandbirdsrocksjpg_zps62

 

KZ-SF:

 

kzsf_ss_2013-06-12_shadowfall-e3_05.jpg

RawDeal_basic

Dude... that Crysis shot is freaking horrible.

 

 

here a better one for Crysis

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#406 killzowned24
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[QUOTE="killzowned24"][QUOTE="-Unreal-"]It's just a silly fanboy thing to post a 400x225 gif image to show how a game that (apparently) runs at 3840×2160 resolution looks.-Unreal-
so gifs are silly now? lol, at the butthurt!!!!

Strawman argument confirms you're butthurt.

just as expected,no reply =confirmed butthurt. only a fool would complain about small gifs when 99% of gifs are small.

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here a better one for Crysis

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A modded map that isn't even in the official game?O_o

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#408 lostrib
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[QUOTE="-Unreal-"][QUOTE="killzowned24"] so gifs are silly now? lol, at the butthurt!!!!killzowned24

Strawman argument confirms you're butthurt.

just as expected,no reply =confirmed butthurt. only a fool would complain about small gifs when 99% of gifs are small.

he did reply, you even quoted his reply

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#409 killzowned24
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[QUOTE="killzowned24"]

[QUOTE="-Unreal-"] Strawman argument confirms you're butthurt.lostrib

just as expected,no reply =confirmed butthurt. only a fool would complain about small gifs when 99% of gifs are small.

he did reply, you even quoted his reply

I meant a real reply and not just some more fanboy talk.
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#410 CroidX
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[QUOTE="CroidX"]

 

 

 

here a better one for Crysis

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A modded map that isn't even in the official game?O_o

 

I seen other impressive mod for the game just like that one

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Anyone who suggests that Killzone has anything less than the best-looking character models in a console game so far lacks all credibility. Quantum Break does not compare (much less detail on the character textures, blurrier, clothing doesn't seem to animate at all), nor does anything else that has been shown up to this point. Pointing to an old E3 demo is futile as those tend to be created several weeks or even months prior to E3 and using youtube videos to try to disprove it is even more transparent in its futility: video compression artifacts aren't hard to detect.

Guerilla has verified those models are in-game, not in-engine which is likely what the Quantum Break pics/gifs released so far were (notably the tweet claiming it was in-game was later deleted) and even if they were both in-game the Killzone character models are clearly superior. If you doubt that they can be done in-game, then you're mistaken: aside from the level of AA shown it is entirely possible given that those would be the highest LoD models in-game which means only one would be likely to be shown at a time.

If the game comes out and no such models are in-game then you can claim ownage, until then you'd do well to shut your mouth unless something is shown that matches what Killzone brings to the table because what they showed looks to match Crysis 2/3 on PC.

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#412 lostrib
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[QUOTE="lostrib"]

[QUOTE="killzowned24"] just as expected,no reply =confirmed butthurt. only a fool would complain about small gifs when 99% of gifs are small.

killzowned24

he did reply, you even quoted his reply

I meant a real reply and not just some more fanboy talk.

he said your statement was a logical fallacy

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#413 StrongBlackVine
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[QUOTE="StrongBlackVine"]

For a game that no one cares about Killzone generates a lot of conversation.

Day One Buy.

faizan_faizan

I sure don't like linear generic scripted first person shooters. COD clone #6632 incoming.

I don't give a shit what you like.

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#414 Jebus213
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[QUOTE="mitu123"]

[QUOTE="CroidX"]

 

 

 

here a better one for Crysis

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A modded map that isn't even in the official game?O_o

 

I seen other impressive mod for the game just like that one

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#415 lostrib
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[QUOTE="faizan_faizan"][QUOTE="StrongBlackVine"]

For a game that no one cares about Killzone generates a lot of conversation.

Day One Buy.

StrongBlackVine

I sure don't like linear generic scripted first person shooters. COD clone #6632 incoming.

I don't give a shit what you like.

personal preference circle jerk time?

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#416 killzowned24
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[QUOTE="killzowned24"][QUOTE="lostrib"]

he did reply, you even quoted his reply

lostrib

I meant a real reply and not just some more fanboy talk.

he said your statement was a logical fallacy

I don't care what he said or thinks because he is wrong and that is a fact!
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#417 lostrib
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[QUOTE="lostrib"]

[QUOTE="killzowned24"] I meant a real reply and not just some more fanboy talk.killzowned24

he said your statement was a logical fallacy

I don't care what he said or thinks because he is wrong and that is a fact!

 just some more fanboy talk

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#418 killzowned24
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[QUOTE="killzowned24"][QUOTE="lostrib"]

he said your statement was a logical fallacy

lostrib

I don't care what he said or thinks because he is wrong and that is a fact!

 just some more fanboy talk

Nope. anyone knows that 99% of gifs are small.only a complete fool would think otherwise.
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#419 lostrib
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[QUOTE="lostrib"]

[QUOTE="killzowned24"] I don't care what he said or thinks because he is wrong and that is a fact!killzowned24

 just some more fanboy talk

Nope. anyone knows that 99% of gifs are small.only a complete fool would think otherwise.

that doesn't make them good represenations of graphics/performance/etc.  Wait, why the fvck am i arguing this shit?

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#420 killzowned24
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[QUOTE="killzowned24"][QUOTE="lostrib"]

 just some more fanboy talk

lostrib

Nope. anyone knows that 99% of gifs are small.only a complete fool would think otherwise.

that doesn't make them good represenations of graphics/performance/etc.  Wait, why the fvck am i arguing this shit?

so you also think gifs are now silly> :lol:

 

like I said ,it's silly.

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#421 ShoulderOfOrion
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Anyone who suggests that Killzone has anything less than the best-looking character models in a console game so far lacks all credibility. Quantum Break does not compare (much less detail on the character textures, blurrier, clothing doesn't seem to animate at all), nor does anything else that has been shown up to this point. Pointing to an old E3 demo is futile as those tend to be created several weeks or even months prior to E3 and using youtube videos to try to disprove it is even more transparent in its futility: video compression artifacts aren't hard to detect.

Guerilla has verified those models are in-game, not in-engine which is likely what the Quantum Break pics/gifs released so far were (notably the tweet claiming it was in-game was later deleted) and even if they were both in-game the Killzone character models are clearly superior. If you doubt that they can be done in-game, then you're mistaken: aside from the level of AA shown it is entirely possible given that those would be the highest LoD models in-game which means only one would be likely to be shown at a time.

If the game comes out and no such models are in-game then you can claim ownage, until then you'd do well to shut your mouth unless something is shown that matches what Killzone brings to the table because what they showed looks to match Crysis 2/3 on PC.

Aidenfury19
Quantum Break is in-game.
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#422 RawDeal_basic
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here a better one for Crysis

CroidX

Image is too small and it still looks pretty bad.

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#423 lostrib
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[QUOTE="lostrib"]

[QUOTE="killzowned24"] Nope. anyone knows that 99% of gifs are small.only a complete fool would think otherwise.killzowned24

that doesn't make them good represenations of graphics/performance/etc.  Wait, why the fvck am i arguing this shit?

so you also think gifs are now silly> :lol:

 

like I said ,it's silly.

they're not good representations of graphics

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#424 killzowned24
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[QUOTE="killzowned24"]

[QUOTE="lostrib"]

that doesn't make them good represenations of graphics/performance/etc.  Wait, why the fvck am i arguing this shit?

lostrib

so you also think gifs are now silly> :lol:

 

like I said ,it's silly.

they're not good representations of graphics

they are when you have the 1080p videos on youtube which most do.
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#425 lostrib
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[QUOTE="lostrib"]

[QUOTE="killzowned24"] so you also think gifs are now silly> :lol:

 

like I said ,it's silly.

killzowned24

they're not good representations of graphics

they are when you have the 1080p videos on youtube which most do.

then just link that shit

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#426 CroidX
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[QUOTE="CroidX"]

here a better one for Crysis

RawDeal_basic

Image is too small and it still looks pretty bad.

How is the image too small and compared to what he showed it looked better

 

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#427 killzowned24
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[QUOTE="killzowned24"][QUOTE="lostrib"]

they're not good representations of graphics

lostrib

they are when you have the 1080p videos on youtube which most do.

then just link that shit

well, that is the beauty of a gif. only a fool would complain about them.
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#428 lostrib
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[QUOTE="lostrib"]

[QUOTE="killzowned24"] they are when you have the 1080p videos on youtube which most do.killzowned24

then just link that shit

well, that is the beauty of a gif. only a fool would complain about them.

well they aren't good for trying to showcase the graphics of a game

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#429 faizan_faizan
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crysis3_train_yard4o7umf.png

But the party just started :(

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crysis3_train_yard4o7umf.png

But the party just started :(

faizan_faizan

Is that the game that was critical AND commercial flop?

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#431 Aidenfury19
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[QUOTE="Aidenfury19"]

Anyone who suggests that Killzone has anything less than the best-looking character models in a console game so far lacks all credibility. Quantum Break does not compare (much less detail on the character textures, blurrier, clothing doesn't seem to animate at all), nor does anything else that has been shown up to this point. Pointing to an old E3 demo is futile as those tend to be created several weeks or even months prior to E3 and using youtube videos to try to disprove it is even more transparent in its futility: video compression artifacts aren't hard to detect.

Guerilla has verified those models are in-game, not in-engine which is likely what the Quantum Break pics/gifs released so far were (notably the tweet claiming it was in-game was later deleted) and even if they were both in-game the Killzone character models are clearly superior. If you doubt that they can be done in-game, then you're mistaken: aside from the level of AA shown it is entirely possible given that those would be the highest LoD models in-game which means only one would be likely to be shown at a time.

If the game comes out and no such models are in-game then you can claim ownage, until then you'd do well to shut your mouth unless something is shown that matches what Killzone brings to the table because what they showed looks to match Crysis 2/3 on PC.

ShoulderOfOrion

Quantum Break is in-game.

Where is the proof of that? Even if I conceded that point outright, which I don't, it still doesn't come close to matching Killzone.

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#432 faizan_faizan
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[QUOTE="faizan_faizan"][QUOTE="StrongBlackVine"]

For a game that no one cares about Killzone generates a lot of conversation.

Day One Buy.

StrongBlackVine

I sure don't like linear generic scripted first person shooters. COD clone #6632 incoming.

I don't give a shit what you like.

You sure cared enough to reply to my post though.
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For those who were complaining about the depth of field blurry distance effect in the other shots i posted-

crysismoddedacrossriverjpg_zps89eb9587.j

 

crysismoddedriverjpg_zps3560e67c.jpg~ori

 

crysismoddedtreesjpg_zps93aba068.jpg~ori

 

crysismoddedtreesbarrelhills_zpscef7e546

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#434 killzowned24
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looks like total crap.
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#435 Aidenfury19
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For those who were complaining about the depth of field blurry distance effect in the other shots i posted-

hartsickdiscipl

Dude, give it up. Even if you acknowledge Crysis was a great looking game for the time, it was still a great looking game FOR THE TIME. It's six years old and it shows in textures that lack detail, lighting that doesn't look right, and foliage which is poor by comparison to what can be done now.

If it some scenarios it does look better than Killzone Shadowfall it sure as heck isn't shown in any of the screenshots you've posted so far and you're really just spamming the thread at this point.

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#436 faizan_faizan
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[QUOTE="faizan_faizan"]

crysis3_train_yard4o7umf.png

But the party just started :(

StrongBlackVine

Is that the game that was critical AND commercial flop?

When you have nothing else to counter with, you use irrelevant material to use it as a counter.
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#437 StrongBlackVine
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[QUOTE="StrongBlackVine"]

[QUOTE="faizan_faizan"]

crysis3_train_yard4o7umf.png

But the party just started :(

faizan_faizan

Is that the game that was critical AND commercial flop?

When you have nothing else to counter with, you use irrelevant material to use it as a counter.

I have never posted anything saying Killzone SF surpasses or even equals Crysis 3 visuals. Crysis 3 was a critical failure and commercial flop...fact. It only gets mentioned as a graphics comparison.

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#438 Aidenfury19
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[QUOTE="StrongBlackVine"]

[QUOTE="faizan_faizan"]

But the party just started :(

faizan_faizan

Is that the game that was critical AND commercial flop?

When you have nothing else to counter with, you use irrelevant material to use it as a counter.

It may have better character models (at least certain characters anyway), but that screenshot is too low resolution to say one way or another.

EDIT: Ok I see. Viewed the original image and there is no way this looks better than the Killzone models shown. Everything but his face is extremely blurry and undetailed in comparison.

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#439 Jebus213
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For those who were complaining about the depth of field blurry distance effect in the other shots i posted-

crysismoddedacrossriverjpg_zps89eb9587.j

 

crysismoddedriverjpg_zps3560e67c.jpg~ori

 

crysismoddedtreesjpg_zps93aba068.jpg~ori

 

crysismoddedtreesbarrelhills_zpscef7e546

hartsickdiscipl

 

First two look like shit. Since when did having a white sky make a game look good?

 

The last two are horrible. There's like almost no anistrophic filtering and the foliage looks like it blends into all one color.

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#440 faizan_faizan
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[QUOTE="faizan_faizan"][QUOTE="StrongBlackVine"]

Is that the game that was critical AND commercial flop?

Aidenfury19

When you have nothing else to counter with, you use irrelevant material to use it as a counter.

It may have better character models (at least certain characters anyway), but that screenshot is too low resolution to say one way or another.

Right click, open in new tab. And see it's beauty.
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#441 Aidenfury19
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Can we please stop quoting the forum breaking Crysis 1 image spam? Thanks.

[QUOTE="Aidenfury19"]

[QUOTE="faizan_faizan"] When you have nothing else to counter with, you use irrelevant material to use it as a counter.faizan_faizan

It may have better character models (at least certain characters anyway), but that screenshot is too low resolution to say one way or another.

Right click, open in new tab. And see it's beauty.

Already did, see my edit. The only thing that might be better is the skin shader and that is far from certain given that we haven't seen how light interacts with skin in Killzone.

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#442 faizan_faizan
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[QUOTE="faizan_faizan"][QUOTE="StrongBlackVine"]

Is that the game that was critical AND commercial flop?

StrongBlackVine

When you have nothing else to counter with, you use irrelevant material to use it as a counter.

I have never posted anything saying Killzone SF surpasses or even equals Crysis 3 visuals. Crysis 3 was a critical failure and commercial flop...fact. It only gets mentioned as a graphics comparison.

And he continues doing the same thing, bravo!
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#443 hartsickdiscipl
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looks like total crap.killzowned24

 

Obvious troll.  

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#444 hartsickdiscipl
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[QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]

For those who were complaining about the depth of field blurry distance effect in the other shots i posted-

Aidenfury19

Dude, give it up. Even if you acknowledge Crysis was a great looking game for the time, it was still a great looking game FOR THE TIME. It's six years old and it shows in textures that lack detail, lighting that doesn't look right, and foliage which is poor by comparison to what can be done now.

If it some scenarios it does look better than Killzone Shadowfall it sure as heck isn't shown in any of the screenshots you've posted so far and you're really just spamming the thread at this point.

 

You can't honestly look at those pics and tell me that you have KZ-SF pics that look more like a photo... more like real life.  If you think KZ does, you need to go outside more.  

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#445 kalipekona
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[QUOTE="faizan_faizan"][QUOTE="StrongBlackVine"]

Is that the game that was critical AND commercial flop?

StrongBlackVine

When you have nothing else to counter with, you use irrelevant material to use it as a counter.

I have never posted anything saying Killzone SF surpasses or even equals Crysis 3 visuals. Crysis 3 was a critical failure and commercial flop...fact. It only gets mentioned as a graphics comparison.

That's moronic and false. Plenty of reviewers gave Crysis 3 scores in the 90s. I would take Crysis 3's gameplay over Killzone 3's gameplay any day.

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#446 faizan_faizan
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Can we please stop quoting the forum breaking Crysis 1 image spam? Thanks.

[QUOTE="faizan_faizan"][QUOTE="Aidenfury19"]

It may have better character models (at least certain characters anyway), but that screenshot is too low resolution to say one way or another.

Aidenfury19

Right click, open in new tab. And see it's beauty.

Already did, see my edit. The only thing that might be better is the skin shader and that is far from certain given that we haven't seen how light interacts with skin in Killzone.

Overall textures, polygons are superior in Crysis 3, those KZ bullshots look good because of the downsampling.

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#447 hartsickdiscipl
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First two look like shit. Since when did having a white sky make a game look good?

 

The last two are horrible. There's like almost no anistrophic filtering and the foliage looks like it blends into all one color.

Jebus213

 

I take it you've never actually been outside in anything other than ideal weather conditions.  That would explain your statements.  

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#448 Douevenlift_bro
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[QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]

For those who were complaining about the depth of field blurry distance effect in the other shots i posted-

crysismoddedacrossriverjpg_zps89eb9587.j

 

crysismoddedriverjpg_zps3560e67c.jpg~ori

 

crysismoddedtreesjpg_zps93aba068.jpg~ori

 

crysismoddedtreesbarrelhills_zpscef7e546

Jebus213

 

First two look like shit. Since when did having a white sky make a game look good?

 

The last two are horrible. There's like almost no anistrophic filtering and the foliage looks like it blends into all one color.

Yikes :/ doesnt look too hot at all

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#449 hartsickdiscipl
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I see system wars is full of trolls and people who have never traveled outside their own back yards.  I'm not sure what I expected.  

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#450 Aidenfury19
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[QUOTE="Aidenfury19"]

[QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]

For those who were complaining about the depth of field blurry distance effect in the other shots i posted-

hartsickdiscipl

Dude, give it up. Even if you acknowledge Crysis was a great looking game for the time, it was still a great looking game FOR THE TIME. It's six years old and it shows in textures that lack detail, lighting that doesn't look right, and foliage which is poor by comparison to what can be done now.

If it some scenarios it does look better than Killzone Shadowfall it sure as heck isn't shown in any of the screenshots you've posted so far and you're really just spamming the thread at this point.

You can't honestly look at those pics and tell me that you have KZ-SF pics that look more like a photo... more like real life.  If you think KZ does, you need to go outside more.  

Real life doesn't have uniform distribution of sunlight (almost entirely without shadows) so blinding that it makes the gaps between tree leaves look like snow. Oh and for the record, everything except for (maybe) the foliage that I've seen in Killzone so far looks distinctly better, the enormous flaws in those screenshots ruin it for whatever areas it might be superior in.