Nightmares of a PC gamer

Joe Blow uploaded a file

Joe Shmoe approved it

Yeah it looks ok

Let's do some online banking

ZombieKiller7

What are you doing here on Gamespot,than?

Who knows,maybe someone just IP traced and hacked you and robbed your bank account,or whatever.

If you're so paranoid,here's some info.NO part of the Internet is fully safe,there is a risk everywhere.Have you forgotten the PSN hack,and how secure the personal info of PSN users was back then?

Think if XBL was hacked things would be any different?

Put a tinfoil around your head,unplug your Internet access cables,then you are 100% secure from any on-line threats.

Over the years,I saw many ppl trying to discredit PC gaming with many arguments,there are PC haters,nothing new,but yours is most certanly one of the most laughable...

Joe Blow uploaded a file

Joe Shmoe approved it

Yeah it looks ok

Let's do some online banking

ZombieKiller7

Joe Blow uploaded a file

Joe Shmoe approved it

Yeah it looks ok

Let's do some online banking

ZombieKiller7

Joe Blow uploaded a file

Joe Shmoe approved it

Yeah it looks ok

Let's do some online banking

ZombieKiller7

You know this place crawls with "boobytraps" as well with so many posters from so many places. Some have posts that registers as being "contaminated".

If you're so concerned about the dangers you cited, why are you here?

I know people are ignorant about PC around here...but nexus being malware and viruses? Just wow...

In comparison...Skyrim (biggest/best game of 2011) on consoles was a joke for several weeks, an unplayable mess.

Even after the patches, I can't imagine playing it on consoles with those load times, stuttering, no mods, and muddy gfx.

I know people are ignorant about PC around here...but nexus being malware and viruses? Just wow...

In comparison...Skyrim (biggest/best game of 2011) on consoles was a joke for several weeks, an unplayable mess.

Even after the patches, I can't imagine playing it on consoles with those load times, stuttering, no mods, and muddy gfx.

Jankarcop

cant wait to see reponses to this

We're denying that downloading files from anonymous sources is unreasonably risky behavior?

Really?

PC version : Might run, might not.

Console version : %100 will run.

And the gameplay is indistinguishable.

PC gaming has no purpose or reason to exist, other than to satisfy the egos of graphics whores.

We're denying that downloading files from anonymous sources is unreasonably risky behavior?

Really?

PC version : Might run, might not.

Console version : %100 will run.

And the gameplay is indistinguishable.

PC gaming has no purpose or reason to exist, other than to satisfy the egos of graphics whores.

ZombieKiller7

[QUOTE="ZombieKiller7"]

We're denying that downloading files from anonymous sources is unreasonably risky behavior?

Really?

PC version : Might run, might not.

Console version : %100 will run.

And the gameplay is indistinguishable.

PC gaming has no purpose or reason to exist, other than to satisfy the egos of graphics whores.

DragonfireXZ95

My role here is purely educational.

We're denying that downloading files from anonymous sources is unreasonably risky behavior?

Really?

PC version : Might run, might not.

Console version : %100 will run.

And the gameplay is indistinguishable.

PC gaming has no purpose or reason to exist, other than to satisfy the egos of graphics whores.

ZombieKiller7

Might want to pull that stick from your ass btw. You still sound like am incredibly wrong, high-and-mighty paranoid schizo.

My role here is purely educational.

ZombieKiller7

The only role you play here

is showing how typing like this

makes you look like even more of a dumbass

than you already are.

We're denying that downloading files from anonymous sources is unreasonably risky behavior?

Really?

PC version : Might run, might not.

Console version : %100 will run.

And the gameplay is indistinguishable.

PC gaming has no purpose or reason to exist, other than to satisfy the egos of graphics whores.

ZombieKiller7

You are an excellent source of amusement,one of the reasons I visit System Wars.By all means,keep it up ;)

[QUOTE="ZombieKiller7"]

We're denying that downloading files from anonymous sources is unreasonably risky behavior?

Really?

PC version : Might run, might not.

Console version : %100 will run.

And the gameplay is indistinguishable.

PC gaming has no purpose or reason to exist, other than to satisfy the egos of graphics whores.

ChubbyGuy40

Might want to pull that stick from your ass btw. You still sound like am incredibly wrong, high-and-mighty paranoid schizo.

It would help your case if you could point out exactly what I'm wrong about.

There's 5 of you and you can't even respond to me without "hurf blurf" posting like a bunch of 12 year olds.

Get out of my sight, PC peasant.

[QUOTE="ZombieKiller7"]

My role here is purely educational.

ChubbyGuy40

The only role you play here

is showing how typing like this

makes you look like even more of a dumbass

than you already are.

Ok fatso.

Thanks

I'll done some more of it

just like that

[QUOTE="ChubbyGuy40"]

[QUOTE="ZombieKiller7"]

We're denying that downloading files from anonymous sources is unreasonably risky behavior?

Really?

PC version : Might run, might not.

Console version : %100 will run.

And the gameplay is indistinguishable.

PC gaming has no purpose or reason to exist, other than to satisfy the egos of graphics whores.

ZombieKiller7

Might want to pull that stick from your ass btw. You still sound like am incredibly wrong, high-and-mighty paranoid schizo.

It would help your case if you could point out exactly what I'm wrong about.

There's 5 of you and you can't even respond to me without "hurf blurf" posting like a bunch of 12 year olds.

Get out of my sight, PC peasant.

The whole last page was people telling you how wrong you were about Nexus being full of viruses and malware. If you think no one has countered your argument, you're an idiot.

I'm running 39 mods all from that website, and I know for a fact my PC is secure by running a virus scanner + Spybot + only sticking to known good sites.

Yet here you are telling us that we all have viruses and malware from this site. Get a grip on reality.

It would help your case if you could point out exactly what I'm wrong about.

There's 5 of you and you can't even respond to me without "hurf blurf" posting like a bunch of 12 year olds.

Get out of my sight, PC peasant.

ZombieKiller7

Everything.

You mean exactly how you respond? By ignoring evidence and replace it with your own, twisted reality that consists of being paranoid about absolutely everything?

You act as if you're worthy of looking at any of us PC gamers. Go scuttle back to your console trash.

The whole last page was people telling you how wrong you were about Nexus being full of viruses and malware. If you think no one has countered your argument, you're an idiot.DragonfireXZ95

I didn't claim Nexus was full of viruses and malware.

You claimed it wasn't. (You know that how exactly?)

I'm taking the mainstream, established viewpoint of : running anonymous code = risky behavior

You can twist it any way you like.

[QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"]The whole last page was people telling you how wrong you were about Nexus being full of viruses and malware. If you think no one has countered your argument, you're an idiot.ZombieKiller7

I didn't claim Nexus was full of viruses and malware.

You claimed it wasn't. (You know that how exactly?)

I'm taking the mainstream, established viewpoint of : running anonymous code = risky behavior

You can twist it any way you like.

It was right here: I'm running 39 mods all from that website, and I know for a fact my PC is secure by running a virus scanner + Spybot + only sticking to known good sites.

You know that it isn't free from viruses and malware then? Prove it. I told you to find a virus or malware on the site. Go ahead. I've already downloaded tons of things from the site with no problems. So therefore, I've tested more of my hypothesis than you have. In other words, your theory is less tested, thus it's incorrect automatically.

I see you're also trying to twist your words so you don't have to admit you're wrong also. Nice try.

Everything.

You mean exactly how you respond? By ignoring evidence and replace it with your own, twisted reality that consists of being paranoid about absolutely everything?

You act as if you're worthy of looking at any of us PC gamers. Go scuttle back to your console trash.

ChubbyGuy40

Yeah ok fattie

Go back to what you were doing.

[QUOTE="ChubbyGuy40"]

Everything.

You mean exactly how you respond? By ignoring evidence and replace it with your own, twisted reality that consists of being paranoid about absolutely everything?

You act as if you're worthy of looking at any of us PC gamers. Go scuttle back to your console trash.

ZombieKiller7

Yeah ok fattie

Go back to what you were doing.

I didn't claim Nexus was full of viruses and malware. ZombieKiller7

Yes you did, as well as pathetically trying to dodge reality. On the topic of specifically talking about Nexus Network;

""Official" modding site? Officially run by joe schmoe aka "iownjoo28" who runs a pirate site on the side? Seems worth entrusting your life savings too, sure, why not."

"Ergo there's no malware anywhere, correct? Scanners don't catch everything."

"Assuming that site is clean...."

You claimed it wasn't. (You know that how exactly?)

I'm taking the mainstream, established viewpoint of : running anonymous code = risky behavior

You can twist it any way you like.

ZombieKiller7

It isn't. You can verify that through many scanners from trusted sources. It's not anonymous though. Anon would imply no identity at all. Nexus Network is a trusted source, who scans and verfies any and all code that passes through their database.

Furthermore, you continue to embarass yourself by posting pictures of yourself. We knew you were fat and ugly, but damn!

:lol: He has no response so he starts making personal insults. :lol:

DragonfireXZ95

Well duh, that's the sign that terrible trolls ran out of arguments.

It was right here: I'm running 39 mods all from that website, and I know for a fact my PC is secure by running a virus scanner + Spybot + only sticking to known good sites.

You know that it isn't free from viruses and malware then? Prove it. I told you to find a virus or malware on the site. Go ahead. I've already downloaded tons of things from the site with no problems. So therefore, I've tested more of my hypothesis than you have. In other words, your theory is less tested, thus it's incorrect automatically.

I see you're also trying to twist your words so you don't have to admit you're wrong also. Nice try.

DragonfireXZ95

In other words YOU TRUST THE SITE.

It's not "known good"

You trust it, based on having used it for a while, and no alarm bells went off.

- There is inherent level of risk anywhere on the net. Yes or no?

- Downloading files made by anonymous people increases that risk. Yes or no?

- Therefor you using those sites is a calculated risk/reward of "game runs better vs more security risk." Yes or no?

It's all very simple.

[QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"]

It was right here: I'm running 39 mods all from that website, and I know for a fact my PC is secure by running a virus scanner + Spybot + only sticking to known good sites.

You know that it isn't free from viruses and malware then? Prove it. I told you to find a virus or malware on the site. Go ahead. I've already downloaded tons of things from the site with no problems. So therefore, I've tested more of my hypothesis than you have. In other words, your theory is less tested, thus it's incorrect automatically.

I see you're also trying to twist your words so you don't have to admit you're wrong also. Nice try.

ZombieKiller7

In other words YOU TRUST THE SITE.

It's not "known good"

You trust it, based on having used it for a while, and no alarm bells went off.

- There is inherent level of risk anywhere on the net. Yes or no?

- Downloading files made by anonymous people increases that risk. Yes or no?

- Therefor you using those sites is a calculated risk/reward of "game runs better vs more security risk." Yes or no?

It's all very simple.

It's so simple that you don't even understand it. Good grief.

In other words YOU TRUST THE SITE.

It's not "known good"

You trust it, based on having used it for a while, and no alarm bells went off.

- There is inherent level of risk anywhere on the net. Yes or no?

- Downloading files made by anonymous people increases that risk. Yes or no?

- Therefor you using those sites is a calculated risk/reward of "game runs better vs more security risk." Yes or no?

It's all very simple.

ZombieKiller7

Why do you keep comparing a well known and trusted source to the levels of a website that found 700 viruses on your computer, and you must buy their software to remove it?

-No, there isn't.

-You assume we download the files directly from these anonymous sources. Only proves how stupid you are.

Please tell us. How is it any different than downloading anything from your MS/Sony/Nintendo console?

""Official" modding site? Officially run by joe schmoe aka "iownjoo28" who runs a pirate site on the side? Seems worth entrusting your life savings too, sure, why not."

"Assuming that site is clean...."

ChubbyGuy40

How does that translate to "Nexus is full of virus and malware"

"Ergo there's no malware anywhere, correct? Scanners don't catch everything."

ChubbyGuy40

ie the rest of the internet.

It isn't. You can verify that through many scanners from trusted sources. It's not anonymous though. Anon would imply no identity at all. Nexus Network is a trusted source, who scans and verfies any and all code that passes through their database.

ChubbyGuy40

This entire statement is based on faith.

How do you know they scan and verify?

Does Nexus Network make the mod or someone else?

Note the bold.

That's what it comes down to.

You "trust" them.

Wow... are consolites really this paranoid about the internet?

Wow... are consolites really this paranoid about the internet?

el3m2tigre

[QUOTE="el3m2tigre"]

Wow... are consolites really this paranoid about the internet?

Iantheone

They think is dark magic.

[QUOTE="ZombieKiller7"]

In other words YOU TRUST THE SITE.

It's not "known good"

You trust it, based on having used it for a while, and no alarm bells went off.

- There is inherent level of risk anywhere on the net. Yes or no?

- Downloading files made by anonymous people increases that risk. Yes or no?

- Therefor you using those sites is a calculated risk/reward of "game runs better vs more security risk." Yes or no?

It's all very simple.

ChubbyGuy40

Why do you keep comparing a well known and trusted source to the levels of a website that found 700 viruses on your computer, and you must buy their software to remove it?

-No, there isn't. - There is NO inherent level of risk on the internet? Just owned yourself. Ooookay moving on...

-You assume we download the files directly from these anonymous sources. I'm pretty sure you downloaded these files with no thought of who wrote it or where it came from,

Please tell us. How is it any different than downloading anything from your MS/Sony/Nintendo console?

a. First-party source

b. Accountability

c. Financial interest

[QUOTE="ChubbyGuy40"]

[QUOTE="ZombieKiller7"]

In other words YOU TRUST THE SITE.

It's not "known good"

You trust it, based on having used it for a while, and no alarm bells went off.

- There is inherent level of risk anywhere on the net. Yes or no?

- Downloading files made by anonymous people increases that risk. Yes or no?

- Therefor you using those sites is a calculated risk/reward of "game runs better vs more security risk." Yes or no?

It's all very simple.

ZombieKiller7

Why do you keep comparing a well known and trusted source to the levels of a website that found 700 viruses on your computer, and you must buy their software to remove it?

-No, there isn't. - There is NO inherent level of risk on the internet? Just owned yourself. Ooookay moving on...

-You assume we download the files directly from these anonymous sources. I'm pretty sure you downloaded these files with no thought of who wrote it or where it came from,

Please tell us. How is it any different than downloading anything from your MS/Sony/Nintendo console?

a. First-party source

b. Accountability

c. Financial interest

Well,Nexus has been around for longer than both Xbox Live and PSN,never had any controversies about malware spreading or anything,so that gives it a nice level of accountability,also,I take site admins do have a personal interest of keeping the site open to enable access to mods for the PC community,that's why the site works great,and it would quickly fall apart if it got the virus spreader reputation...

TBH,I trust Nexus more than I do trust PSN and XBL.They both don't have a lot of security,a thing that hackers proved few months ago.Also,you're at bigger risk of losing personal info through PSN and XBL,since Sony and MS often give hackers some dumb "reasons" for attacks(hackers are unpredictable),while the same cannot be said for independant site like Nexus that isn't part of any corporation...

This thread has gotten more hilarious.

This entire statement is based on faith.

How do you know they scan and verify?

Does Nexus Network make the mod or someone else?

Note the bold.

That's what it comes down to.

You "trust" them.

ZombieKiller7

Just like you trusted Sony, Valve, and Microsoft with your credit card and personal information, right? Dumbass.

Nexus is far more reliable than you think, mostly because they've been around for a long time and are a smaller target that doesn't hold that much value. As for risks, the biggest risk is yourself and how stupid you are to click on random links. Damn straight I downloaded those files. Doesn't matter who created them, because I know they're safe. Same, exact way the mods for WoW from Curse are safe. Proven track record. I love how you try to use financial interest as a reason to trust MS/Sony. Nexus offers subscriptions for faster downloads with no wait times, or file limits as well.

This thread has gotten more hilarious.

mitu123

Hah,true that!

I saw many attempts to discredit PC gaming through various stupid arguments,but this one takes the cake :lol:

Only thing I don't know,why did I even bother responding...

Only thing I don't know,why did I even bother responding...

Rocker6

Responding is what fuels the trolls and keeps them going. That's why I always bite. :P

[QUOTE="Rocker6"]

Only thing I don't know,why did I even bother responding...

ChubbyGuy40

Responding is what fuels the trolls and keeps them going. That's why I always bite. :P

Eh,I usually stay away,but this one was good,I must admit.

Troll score:7.5/10

[QUOTE="elessarGObonzo"]

it must suck to own a mansion instead of my lil house too.

whiskeystrike

man stop with the bs comparisons.

it's people like you why PC gamers get a bad rep

jus kidding. tho that is the best way to teach lil kids about reality, you have to give them a real life image to compare in their unexperienced minds.

and it's the dumbasses who are either jealous or ignorant that give us the bad name.

[QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"][QUOTE="ZombieKiller7"]

Ergo there's no malware anywhere, correct?

Scanners don't catch everything.

Anytime you download stuff on the internet you're taking a risk with your online shopping and/or banking.

Thousands of people find this out every day, the hard way.

Just because you are some dumb little kid who puts his livelihood at risk over video games, does not mean I would do the same.

ZombieKiller7

Learn to read.

Assuming that site is clean, does it mean every site is clean?

How do you know there isn't a backdoor installed on your machine right now.

You don't.

How do you know the data stored on your console, your PSN or XBOX Live account is safe? Given what we've been through the last year, the last thing I'd brag about is how safe your personal data is :)

Well,Nexus has been around for longer than both Xbox Live and PSN,never had any controversies about malware spreading or anything,so that gives it a nice level of accountability,also,I take site admins do have a personal interest of keeping the site open to enable access to mods for the PC community,that's why the site works great,and it would quickly fall apart if it got the virus spreader reputation...

TBH,I trust Nexus more than I do trust PSN and XBL.They both don't have a lot of security,a thing that hackers proved few months ago.Also,you're at bigger risk of losing personal info through PSN and XBL,since Sony and MS often give hackers some dumb "reasons" for attacks(hackers are unpredictable),while the same cannot be said for independant site like Nexus that isn't part of any corporation...

Rocker6

Getting patches/updates from anonymous third-parties is inherently risky.

That's all I'm saying.

It's not about Nexus per-se, it's about any third-party site.

You have no way to authenticate the files or who made them, you can only hope it's nothing bad.

Microsoft and Sony are first parties, if you don't trust them then you probably shouldn't be running Windows.

XBL/PSN have game cards you can use, you don't have to enter your name or give them your info, even if they get hacked, that's their problem not yours.

Steam got hacked, I'm pretty sure they still take your cc data to buy stuff.

That's not "paranoia" that's Computers 101, apparently long forgotten.

[QUOTE="Rocker6"]

Well,Nexus has been around for longer than both Xbox Live and PSN,never had any controversies about malware spreading or anything,so that gives it a nice level of accountability,also,I take site admins do have a personal interest of keeping the site open to enable access to mods for the PC community,that's why the site works great,and it would quickly fall apart if it got the virus spreader reputation...

TBH,I trust Nexus more than I do trust PSN and XBL.They both don't have a lot of security,a thing that hackers proved few months ago.Also,you're at bigger risk of losing personal info through PSN and XBL,since Sony and MS often give hackers some dumb "reasons" for attacks(hackers are unpredictable),while the same cannot be said for independant site like Nexus that isn't part of any corporation...

ZombieKiller7

Getting patches/updates from anonymous third-parties is inherently risky.

That's all I'm saying.

It's not about Nexus per-se, it's about any third-party site.

You have no way to authenticate the files or who made them, you can only hope it's nothing bad.

Microsoft and Sony are first parties, if you don't trust them then you probably shouldn't be running Windows.

XBL/PSN have game cards you can use, you don't have to enter your name or give them your info, even if they get hacked, that's their problem not yours.

Steam got hacked, I'm pretty sure they still take your cc data to buy stuff.

That's not "paranoia" that's Computers 101, apparently long forgotten.

[QUOTE="Rocker6"]

Well,Nexus has been around for longer than both Xbox Live and PSN,never had any controversies about malware spreading or anything,so that gives it a nice level of accountability,also,I take site admins do have a personal interest of keeping the site open to enable access to mods for the PC community,that's why the site works great,and it would quickly fall apart if it got the virus spreader reputation...

TBH,I trust Nexus more than I do trust PSN and XBL.They both don't have a lot of security,a thing that hackers proved few months ago.Also,you're at bigger risk of losing personal info through PSN and XBL,since Sony and MS often give hackers some dumb "reasons" for attacks(hackers are unpredictable),while the same cannot be said for independant site like Nexus that isn't part of any corporation...

ZombieKiller7

Getting patches/updates from anonymous third-parties is inherently risky.

That's all I'm saying.

It's not about Nexus per-se, it's about any third-party site.

You have no way to authenticate the files or who made them, you can only hope it's nothing bad.

Microsoft and Sony are first parties, if you don't trust them then you probably shouldn't be running Windows.

XBL/PSN have game cards you can use, you don't have to enter your name or give them your info, even if they get hacked, that's their problem not yours.

Steam got hacked, I'm pretty sure they still take your cc data to buy stuff.

That's not "paranoia" that's Computers 101, apparently long forgotten.

Sigh...

When a site that hosts third-party content works well for a long time,without any controversies and malware problems,its obviously safe and reliable to use due to being well regulated,that is Logic 101,and by your logic,we should all stay away from every third party sites,so careful,Gamespot could also count as a third party site.Why are you posting here?

Sure,there are many sites around the Internet who are suspicious,and who I would never visit,but Internet 101 is to know how to identify and stay away from such sites,a thing I understood ever since I went on the Internet for the first time ever,many years ago.That's why I NEVER had any form of system/data compromising virus,and same could be probably said for most users here.Also,have you ever heard about anti-virus programs and firewalls?

[QUOTE="whiskeystrike"]

[QUOTE="percech"]Lol, morons. At the time I had Gold...I was 17. I have a good paying job at Chase, and I pay for my own things. I'll never get styled on.percech

No one cares about your job.

You got caught in your lie and if anyone believed you had any credibility at all at that point, you just destroyed any chance of that.

It seems like you have become the next laughing stock of this forum and for once it isn't a cow, which is a nice change of pace I'll admit.

Thank you for the entertainment.

[QUOTE="Iantheone"][QUOTE="rasengan2552"] doesn't work for me at all. It worked when I had Vista. when I got Windows 7 Home Premium it crashed when I started it up, still crashes 2 years later.ZombieKiller7

Ah, good ol PC gaming

"It won't work on my rig"

"Yes it will, you're doing something wrong"

"Well it won't, I can't get it to work"

"You're just not smart enough, try doing XYZ"

"Dude it won't f*cking work"

"Yes it will, it's your fault"

Do yourself a favor, get a console and avoid these elitist chodes.

Games not working correctly are a symptom of poor PC upkeep or old hardware (whether it can handle the games or not doesn't matter if it's worn down). Only at launch does software (Windows, drivers) have major issues - if you're having issues months or years on then it's because of the user not keeping their PC up to date and in order which isn't hard to do if you have half a brain (partition drives, keep all your folders and installations in order, disc clean, defrag, use other maintanance programs etc). My PC gaming experience usually goes like this:

Go to Steam

Buy Game

Download and install game

Play game

If the game doesn't work it's usually a common error with the game itself.

This thread has gotten more hilarious.

mitu123

[QUOTE="ChubbyGuy40"]

Everything.

You mean exactly how you respond? By ignoring evidence and replace it with your own, twisted reality that consists of being paranoid about absolutely everything?

You act as if you're worthy of looking at any of us PC gamers. Go scuttle back to your console trash.

ZombieKiller7

Yeah ok fattie

Go back to what you were doing.

Are the mods back from christmas vaca yet? This is getting out of hand. Every PC thread has crap from people like this.

ZombieKiller7

Why would you post a picture of yourself Zombiekiller? Are you trying to compete with arbitor?