Nintendo A No Show At E3?

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[QUOTE="BadNewsBen"] Exactly, and I think people are kidding themselves if they don't believe that a new Zelda/Mario/Metroid title wouldn't have taken some of that attention away from the new consoles. Just disappointing.

Oh well, hopefully Sony and Microsoft have a pair of mega-shows. BadNewsBen

Its not the fact they are not going to have a E3 conference this year, its the fact that they decided to do that THIS year. They're basically telling Sony and MS to take all of the attention. Nonstop-Madness

[QUOTE="BadNewsBen"][QUOTE="Nonstop-Madness"]Its not the fact they are not going to have a E3 conference this year, its the fact that they decided to do that THIS year. They're basically telling Sony and MS to take all of the attention. nintendoboy16

Oh well, hopefully Sony and Microsoft have a pair of mega-shows.

[QUOTE="nintendoboy16"]

[QUOTE="BadNewsBen"] Exactly, and I think people are kidding themselves if they don't believe that a new Zelda/Mario/Metroid title wouldn't have taken some of that attention away from the new consoles. Just disappointing.

Oh well, hopefully Sony and Microsoft have a pair of mega-shows. PSP107

Though I did mention on this page if you're at 50 posts per page that Nintendo is still having two events instead of a press conference, they will have games that get announced in the Nintendo Directs on the show floor so people could play them.

[QUOTE="PSP107"][QUOTE="nintendoboy16"]They're NEW freaking consoles from competition that have more hype than the Wii U and (at this time) have more positive reception than Nintendo. Of course it would.

Nintendo_Ownes7

Though I did mention on this page if you're at 50 posts per page that Nintendo is still having two events instead of a press conference, they will have games that get announced in the Nintendo Directs on the show floor so people could play them.

[QUOTE="PSP107"][QUOTE="nintendoboy16"]They're NEW freaking consoles from competition that have more hype than the Wii U and (at this time) have more positive reception than Nintendo. Of course it would.

Though I did mention on this page if you're at 50 posts per page that Nintendo is still having two events instead of a press conference, they will have games that get announced in the Nintendo Directs on the show floor so people could play them.

What will it take from Nintendo to NOT make all their apologists come out in droves? I swear, no matter what they do, people defend it. Where has any semblence of objectivity gone?MirkoS77

[QUOTE="MirkoS77"]What will it take from Nintendo to NOT make all their apologists come out in droves? I swear, no matter what they do, people defend it. Where has any semblence of objectivity gone?trugs26

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[QUOTE="MirkoS77"]What will it take from Nintendo to NOT make all their apologists come out in droves? I swear, no matter what they do, people defend it. Where has any semblence of objectivity gone?PSP107

[QUOTE="PSP107"][QUOTE="trugs26"]

Someone's gotta balance the heavy lean on anti-Nintendo threads :P 

[QUOTE="MirkoS77"]What will it take from Nintendo to NOT make all their apologists come out in droves? I swear, no matter what they do, people defend it. Where has any semblence of objectivity gone?DJ-Lafleur

I find it funny you post that in SW, the biggest Sony cock-sucking fest on the internet.

[QUOTE="MirkoS77"]What will it take from Nintendo to NOT make all their apologists come out in droves? I swear, no matter what they do, people defend it. Where has any semblence of objectivity gone?DJ-Lafleur

I find it funny you post that in SW, the biggest Sony cock-sucking fest on the internet.

[QUOTE="DJ-Lafleur"]

[QUOTE="MirkoS77"]What will it take from Nintendo to NOT make all their apologists come out in droves? I swear, no matter what they do, people defend it. Where has any semblence of objectivity gone?PSP107

I find it funny you post that in SW, the biggest Sony cock-sucking fest on the internet.

What will it take from Nintendo to NOT make all their apologists come out in droves? I swear, no matter what they do, people defend it. Where has any semblence of objectivity gone?MirkoS77

I think "Nintendo isn't going to show any games at E3" would be a pretty reasonable line to draw.

[QUOTE="MirkoS77"]What will it take from Nintendo to NOT make all their apologists come out in droves? I swear, no matter what they do, people defend it. Where has any semblence of objectivity gone?DJ-Lafleur

I find it funny you post that in SW, the biggest Sony cock-sucking fest on the internet.

[QUOTE="MirkoS77"]What will it take from Nintendo to NOT make all their apologists come out in droves? I swear, no matter what they do, people defend it. Where has any semblence of objectivity gone?_BlueDuck_

I think "Nintendo isn't going to show any games at E3" would be a pretty reasonable line to draw.

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[QUOTE="MirkoS77"]What will it take from Nintendo to NOT make all their apologists come out in droves? I swear, no matter what they do, people defend it. Where has any semblence of objectivity gone?MirkoS77

I think "Nintendo isn't going to show any games at E3" would be a pretty reasonable line to draw.

[QUOTE="MirkoS77"]What will it take from Nintendo to NOT make all their apologists come out in droves? I swear, no matter what they do, people defend it. Where has any semblance of objectivity gone?Shinobishyguy

It matters more than anything.  The Wii U currently feels dead and abandoned, I've tried to view their lack of a PC as a positive in any way I can, and can't.  The past few E3s have sucked and I'll admit that, but I think it's fairly safe assumption that at this point Nintendo is going to come out with a flood of amazing software (they will have to to survive) that will create tremendous excitement.  To do that behind closed doors and through Nintendo Directs is a bad decision.  Do pie charts to investors behind closed doors, but make a PC huge that only deals with games.  They need them up on huge screen, with blaring sound, Miyamoto acting like a little kid with his sword and shield, and just having a good time and attempting to convey fun and enjoyment as much as they can.  

And even though they don't have any new hardware, Nintendo's software has always been its strength and when people say they're unable to compete without hardware, I say......since when have they ever been able to?  Even if they HAD new hardware it'd be underpowered and not matter anyhow.  It's about the software, and always has been with Nintendo.  Who honestly believes that Sony or MS can compete with Nintendo on that front?  I think if they had the games and went head to head with Sony and MS on-stage, even though they'd have no new hardware, Nintendo could still put on an amazing showing and stand up to the other two.

You may not feel it, but many are seeing this as a concession of defeat, or are at the very least getting the impression that Nintendo holds no confidence in their product.  That is a bad thing, and the last thing the Wii U needs right now.  This move has disappointed me so much that even though there will be new games, my excitement for their reveal has gotten even lower.

[QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"][QUOTE="MirkoS77"]What will it take from Nintendo to NOT make all their apologists come out in droves? I swear, no matter what they do, people defend it. Where has any semblance of objectivity gone?MirkoS77

It matters more than anything.  The Wii U currently feels dead and abandoned, I've tried to view their lack of a PC as a positive in any way I can, and can't.  The past few E3s have sucked and I'll admit that, but I think it's fairly safe assumption that at this point Nintendo is going to come out with a flood of amazing software (they will have to to survive) that will create tremendous excitement.  To do that behind closed doors and through Nintendo Directs is a bad decision.  Do pie charts to investors behind closed doors, but make a PC huge that only deals with games.  They need them up on huge screen, with blaring sound, Miyamoto acting like a little kid with his sword and shield, and just having a good time and attempting to convey fun and enjoyment as much as they can.  

And even though they don't have any new hardware, Nintendo's software has always been its strength and when people say they're unable to compete without hardware, I say......since when have they ever been able to?  Even if they HAD new hardware it'd be underpowered and not matter anyhow.  It's about the software, and always has been with Nintendo.  Who honestly believes that Sony or MS can compete with Nintendo on that front?  I think if they had the games and went head to head with Sony and MS on-stage, even though they'd have no new hardware, Nintendo could still put on an amazing showing and stand up to the other two.

You may not feel it, but many are seeing this as a concession of defeat, or are at the very least getting the impression that Nintendo holds no confidence in their product.  That is a bad thing, and the last thing the Wii U needs right now.  This move has disappointed me so much that even though there will be new games, my excitement for their reveal has gotten even lower.

Nintendo has been a no show for me since they released the Wii, so this doesn't really bother me.  

[QUOTE="MirkoS77"]

[QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"] I ask you if they come out with the games what does it matter if it's shown on a stage or behind a camera?Shinobishyguy

It matters more than anything.  The Wii U currently feels dead and abandoned, I've tried to view their lack of a PC as a positive in any way I can, and can't.  The past few E3s have sucked and I'll admit that, but I think it's fairly safe assumption that at this point Nintendo is going to come out with a flood of amazing software (they will have to to survive) that will create tremendous excitement.  To do that behind closed doors and through Nintendo Directs is a bad decision.  Do pie charts to investors behind closed doors, but make a PC huge that only deals with games.  They need them up on huge screen, with blaring sound, Miyamoto acting like a little kid with his sword and shield, and just having a good time and attempting to convey fun and enjoyment as much as they can.  

And even though they don't have any new hardware, Nintendo's software has always been its strength and when people say they're unable to compete without hardware, I say......since when have they ever been able to?  Even if they HAD new hardware it'd be underpowered and not matter anyhow.  It's about the software, and always has been with Nintendo.  Who honestly believes that Sony or MS can compete with Nintendo on that front?  I think if they had the games and went head to head with Sony and MS on-stage, even though they'd have no new hardware, Nintendo could still put on an amazing showing and stand up to the other two.

You may not feel it, but many are seeing this as a concession of defeat, or are at the very least getting the impression that Nintendo holds no confidence in their product.  That is a bad thing, and the last thing the Wii U needs right now.  This move has disappointed me so much that even though there will be new games, my excitement for their reveal has gotten even lower.

That doesn't mean they can't make some noise while they are there. Even if it won't be deafening in any measure its actually a better idea than keeping silent.

I think what they are doing is a smart idea as it cuts out the rather useless conference (at least to us) and makes things much more efficient for everyone overall, but they shouldn't have executed their plan until they are back up on their feet.

Sheep are going to have to update the pics and gifs they use to hype E3 with.

I'll get the ball rolling.

[QUOTE="PSP107"][QUOTE="DJ-Lafleur"]

I find it funny you post that in SW, the biggest Sony cock-sucking fest on the internet.

I_can_haz

[QUOTE="I_can_haz"][QUOTE="PSP107"] I always thought it was an Xbox town since PS3 launch was ripped here(and other sites too)mitu123

u used to be lemmin in those days.

djlafleur nevr ownd ps3 all gen.

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[QUOTE="MirkoS77"]What will it take from Nintendo to NOT make all their apologists come out in droves? I swear, no matter what they do, people defend it. Where has any semblence of objectivity gone?PSP107

I find it funny you post that in SW, the biggest Sony cock-sucking fest on the internet.

What will it take from Nintendo to NOT make all their apologists come out in droves? I swear, no matter what they do, people defend it. Where has any semblence of objectivity gone?MirkoS77

But this is not necessarily a bad move, it could turn out terrible but it could be a move that is easily for the better as well.

All we know is that they are restructuring how they will present games on E3. Whether this new method turns out better or not has yet to be seen. What we do know is that it should be easier to cherry pick what we want to see. With the stuff dedicated to investors now being easily skippable.

Jumping to conclusions is not a wise move. Wait and see.

I find it funny you post that in SW, the biggest Sony cock-sucking fest on the internet.

[QUOTE="MirkoS77"]What will it take from Nintendo to NOT make all their apologists come out in droves? I swear, no matter what they do, people defend it. Where has any semblence of objectivity gone?Maroxad

But this is not necessarily a bad move, it could turn out terrible but it could be a move that is easily for the better as well.

All we know is that they are restructuring how they will present games on E3. Whether this new method turns out better or not has yet to be seen. What we do know is that it should be easier to cherry pick what we want to see. With the stuff dedicated to investors now being easily skippable.

Jumping to conclusions is not a wise move. Wait and see.

"It doesn't really matter if Nintendo's alternate approach to E3 ends up making sense on paper--it's that it's too easy for people to accept the most obvious narrative because it plays perfectly into a  widely-accepted view of Nintendo".

This is what it's about.  A large percentage (both in the media and gamers alike) currently hold a widely-accepted view of Nintendo, and it ain't positive.  People can keep saying it makes sense from a business perspective, that a PC is a waste time and money, NDs are just as good, but the most crucial part of this entire decision is how it will be viewed by everyone.  Like it or not, there's a huge degree of anti-Nintendo sentiment floating around bred by many questionable decisions Nintendo's made as of late.  People are wondering and a bit worried about them.

Many will (and are) getting the impression that Nintendo's unsure of themselves and are insulating themselves further from the competition by doing this.  Simply put, despite the fact that they more than likely will have numerous great games to show, that they will display it in such a minimalist manner reeks of insecurity, doubt, and defeat.  I keep reading comments all over that enforce this feeling, and I feel it myself.  It is the last thing they need right now.  They should be out in the open pounding their chests like crazy with mad confidence and aggressiveness.

Again...games really have nothing to do with it at all.  It's the perceived message Nintendo is sending at a time when people desperately need serious reassurance that they're giving it their all, and skipping a PC to do streaming, closed door events and demos is not going to convey this as well.  Nintendo is making a serious error.  

This has to do with Nintendo and E3 so I'm posting it.

http://gematsu.com/2013/04/retro-wii-u-project-to-be-announced-in-not-so-distant-future

Nintendo will introduce its new game from Donkey Kong Country Returns and Metroid Prime developer Retro Studios in the not so distant future, the companys Hiroyuki Yamada has told Official Nintendo Magazine.

The companys American boss Reggie Fils-Aime has previously promised it will be a fantastic project.

Perhaps well see it at E3 then?

This has to do with Nintendo and E3 so I'm posting it.

http://gematsu.com/2013/04/retro-wii-u-project-to-be-announced-in-not-so-distant-future

Nintendo will introduce its new game from Donkey Kong Country Returns and Metroid Prime developer Retro Studios in the not so distant future, the companys Hiroyuki Yamada has told Official Nintendo Magazine.

The companys American boss Reggie Fils-Aime has previously promised it will be a fantastic project.

Perhaps well see it at E3 then?

Nintendo_Ownes7

I admit the one thing I'm most curious about as far as Nintendo goes is what Retro is working on. 

This has to do with Nintendo and E3 so I'm posting it.

http://gematsu.com/2013/04/retro-wii-u-project-to-be-announced-in-not-so-distant-future

Nintendo will introduce its new game from Donkey Kong Country Returns and Metroid Prime developer Retro Studios in the not so distant future, the companys Hiroyuki Yamada has told Official Nintendo Magazine.

The companys American boss Reggie Fils-Aime has previously promised it will be a fantastic project.

Perhaps well see it at E3 then?

Nintendo_Ownes7

[QUOTE="Nintendo_Ownes7"]

This has to do with Nintendo and E3 so I'm posting it.

http://gematsu.com/2013/04/retro-wii-u-project-to-be-announced-in-not-so-distant-future

Nintendo will introduce its new game from Donkey Kong Country Returns and Metroid Prime developer Retro Studios in the not so distant future, the companys Hiroyuki Yamada has told Official Nintendo Magazine.

The companys American boss Reggie Fils-Aime has previously promised it will be a fantastic project.

Perhaps well see it at E3 then?

nintendoboy16

I agree fully with you. I do think it is silly how some people seem to want Retro to be the Metroid Prime factory. I don't even know if I want another Metroid Prime that much, seeing as how Metroid Prime 3 was disappointing. What if we just got an other Prime on the level of Prime 3, or worse? I wouldn't be against having another Metroid Prime-esque on the Wii U, just to see how awesome a prime game in HD would look like. Outside of that I'd rather see something different with Metroid.

As for Retro, I'd like to Retro work their magic on other NIntendo IPs, especially seeing as they did a great job with Donkey Kong and Mario Kart. Or heaven forbid make their own IP.

I always seem to say this stuff whenever Retro is brought up...

[QUOTE="nintendoboy16"][QUOTE="Nintendo_Ownes7"]

This has to do with Nintendo and E3 so I'm posting it.

http://gematsu.com/2013/04/retro-wii-u-project-to-be-announced-in-not-so-distant-future

Nintendo will introduce its new game from Donkey Kong Country Returns and Metroid Prime developer Retro Studios in the not so distant future, the companys Hiroyuki Yamada has told Official Nintendo Magazine.

The companys American boss Reggie Fils-Aime has previously promised it will be a fantastic project.

Perhaps well see it at E3 then?

DJ-Lafleur

I agree fully with you. I do think it is silly how some people seem to want Retro to be the Metroid Prime factory. I don't even know if I want another Metroid Prime that much, seeing as how Metroid Prime 3 was disappointing. What if we just got an other Prime on the level of Prime 3, or worse? I wouldn't be against having another Metroid Prime-esque on the Wii U, just to see how awesome a prime game in HD would look like. Outside of that I'd rather see something different with Metroid.

As for Retro, I'd like to Retro work their magic on other NIntendo IPs, especially seeing as they did a great job with Donkey Kong and Mario Kart. Or heaven forbid make their own IP.

I always seem to say this stuff whenever Retro is brought up...

People hate when I make this comparison, but Rare wasn't a Donkey Kong Factory. Why should Retro get this treatment?

Okay. That's my reaction. And uh-oh if you're a Nintendo investor. Uh. Oh.musicalmac

Okay. That's my reaction. And uh-oh if you're a Nintendo investor. Uh. Oh.musicalmac

I don't think they're ready for the massive amount of money Nintendo is about to make them.

[QUOTE="nintendoboy16"][QUOTE="Nintendo_Ownes7"]

This has to do with Nintendo and E3 so I'm posting it.

http://gematsu.com/2013/04/retro-wii-u-project-to-be-announced-in-not-so-distant-future

Nintendo will introduce its new game from Donkey Kong Country Returns and Metroid Prime developer Retro Studios in the not so distant future, the companys Hiroyuki Yamada has told Official Nintendo Magazine.

The companys American boss Reggie Fils-Aime has previously promised it will be a fantastic project.

Perhaps well see it at E3 then?

DJ-Lafleur

I agree fully with you. I do think it is silly how some people seem to want Retro to be the Metroid Prime factory. I don't even know if I want another Metroid Prime that much, seeing as how Metroid Prime 3 was disappointing. What if we just got an other Prime on the level of Prime 3, or worse? I wouldn't be against having another Metroid Prime-esque on the Wii U, just to see how awesome a prime game in HD would look like. Outside of that I'd rather see something different with Metroid.

As for Retro, I'd like to Retro work their magic on other NIntendo IPs, especially seeing as they did a great job with Donkey Kong and Mario Kart. Or heaven forbid make their own IP.

I always seem to say this stuff whenever Retro is brought up...

[QUOTE="mitu123"]

[QUOTE="I_can_haz"]Lemmings always like claiming to be victims. This place was a cesspool of rabid lemmings between 2006-2009, the only reason this place has less lemmings now is that M$ abandoned them with no games after '09. If M$ hadn't gone all casual this place would still be overrun with them.CaptainGamespot

u used to be lemmin in those days.

djlafleur nevr ownd ps3 all gen.

[QUOTE="musicalmac"]Okay. That's my reaction. And uh-oh if you're a Nintendo investor. Uh. Oh.PSP107

The only time I ever dropped money into Nintendo was a couple months before the 3DS unveil at E3 whatever year that was. Sold it shortly after and made a decent profit. Haven't touched their stock since.

Was thinking of using a similar strategy at the E3 they announced the Wii-U at, but decided against it, wasn't sure they could produce a system with a greater potential to capture/grow the market than they did with the Wii. I had no idea how right I was, VERY glad I decided against it, if I remember right their stock took quite a hit right after the Wii-U reveal....

They have nothing to show :lol:

NathanDrakeSwag

[QUOTE="PSP107"][QUOTE="musicalmac"]Okay. That's my reaction. And uh-oh if you're a Nintendo investor. Uh. Oh.kenakuma

The only time I ever dropped money into Nintendo was a couple months before the 3DS unveil at E3 whatever year that was. Sold it shortly after and made a decent profit. Haven't touched their stock since.

Was thinking of using a similar strategy at the E3 they announced the Wii-U at, but decided against it, wasn't sure they could produce a system with a greater potential to capture/grow the market than they did with the Wii. I had no idea how right I was, VERY glad I decided against it, if I remember right their stock took quite a hit right after the Wii-U reveal....

[QUOTE="kenakuma"]

[QUOTE="PSP107"] Would you invest in Nintendo?PSP107

The only time I ever dropped money into Nintendo was a couple months before the 3DS unveil at E3 whatever year that was. Sold it shortly after and made a decent profit. Haven't touched their stock since.

Was thinking of using a similar strategy at the E3 they announced the Wii-U at, but decided against it, wasn't sure they could produce a system with a greater potential to capture/grow the market than they did with the Wii. I had no idea how right I was, VERY glad I decided against it, if I remember right their stock took quite a hit right after the Wii-U reveal....

What 3DS bandwagon? What are you even talking about :| Can't find any way to apply your comment to my previous post without taking into consideration great error in interpretation on your part......

[QUOTE="PSP107"][QUOTE="kenakuma"]

The only time I ever dropped money into Nintendo was a couple months before the 3DS unveil at E3 whatever year that was. Sold it shortly after and made a decent profit. Haven't touched their stock since.

Was thinking of using a similar strategy at the E3 they announced the Wii-U at, but decided against it, wasn't sure they could produce a system with a greater potential to capture/grow the market than they did with the Wii. I had no idea how right I was, VERY glad I decided against it, if I remember right their stock took quite a hit right after the Wii-U reveal....

What 3DS bandwagon? What are you even talking about :| Can't find any way to apply your comment to my previous post without taking into consideration great error in interpretation on your part......

Well 3DS eventually took off. You would of made more if you stayed longer.PSP107

Last I checked Nintendo stock has been on the decline ever since it got the bump by the 3DS reveal years ago, so you're mistaken.

Just because the 3DS took off doesn't mean their stock price has been soaring, they have other product liabilities such as the Wii-U... Any good the 3DS has done the company in recent years has been greatly outweighed by how badly the Wii-U is doing.

Last time I owned Nintendo stock it was around $40 a share I believe, now it it around $10 :| So no I would have made loads less if I stayed on....

They can't enjoy the 3DS's success until they fix the desperate situation with the Wii-U right now!

[QUOTE="PSP107"] Well 3DS eventually took off. You would of made more if you stayed longer.kenakuma

Last I checked Nintendo stock has been on the decline ever since it got the bump by the 3DS reveal years ago, so you're mistaken.

Just because the 3DS took off doesn't mean their stock price has been soaring, they have other product liabilities such as the Wii-U... Any good the 3DS has done the company in recent years has been greatly outweighed by how badly the Wii-U is doing.

Last time I owned Nintendo stock it was around $40 a share I believe, now it it around $10 :| So no I would have made loads less if I stayed on....

They can't enjoy the 3DS's success until they fix the desperate situation with the Wii-U right now!