Nintendo =BEST DEVELOPERs ON THE PLANET AAAE EDITION

the UNDISPUTED KING OF GAMING

Nintendo DS = 68 MILLION SOLD

nearest competitor = 32 million sold

Nintendo Wii =22 million sold

nearest competitor 17 million sold

Super Mario Galaxy 9.5

Super Smash Bros. Brawl 9.5

WarioWare Smooth Moves 9.1

Mario Kart DS 9.2

New Super Mario Bros. 9.0

Yoshi's Island DS 9.1

The Legend of Zelda: Phantom Hourglass 9.0

Advance Wars Dual Strike 9.2

Nintendogs 9.1

Lets not even start about the games before this generation ;)Weslii

oh i dont think that will fit

[QUOTE="Weslii"]Lets not even start about the games before this generation ;)Kakarot00769

oh i dont think that will fit

no other company comes close to the contribution nintendo made in this industry

Good for them.I still don't regret selling the Wii...

But when you are right, you are right.

Remember when Nintendo was trounced by the PS1 in the N64 days? There is your dispute.

And how the PS2 destroyed the Gamecube?

Sure they have the handheld market and the Wii is "winning". But, it is in no way "undisputed".

Remember when Nintendo was trounced by the PS1 in the N64 days? There is your dispute.

And how the PS2 destroyed the Gamecube?

Sure they have the handheld market and the Wii is winning. But, it is in no way "undisputed".

Demetri_OS

since when did a best developer thread have anythig to do with console sales :?

:lol:

btw, the 360 announced it was at 17.7 mil (not 17 mil).. And that was last year. Just though I'd add that little fact.

[QUOTE="samusarmada"][QUOTE="Demetri_OS"]

Remember when Nintendo was trounced by the PS1 in the N64 days? There is your dispute.

And how the PS2 destroyed the Gamecube?

Sure they have the handheld market and the Wii is winning. But, it is in no way "undisputed".

Demetri_OS

since when did a best developer thread have anythig to do with console sales :?

READ THE OP.

He CLEARLY mentions sales.

Follow a conversation, for your own sake at least. You look foolish if you don't.

ahhhh.

damn ¬_¬ :P

:lol:

btw, the 360 announced it was at 17.7 mil (not 17 mil).. And that was last year. Just though I'd add that little fact.

OhSnapitz

shipped = console sold to retailers not gamers

I stopped reading when I saw this:

[QUOTE="OhSnapitz"]

:lol:

btw, the 360 announced it was at 17.7 mil (not 17 mil).. And that was last year. Just though I'd add that little fact.

Kakarot00769

shipped = console sold to retailers not gamers

Proof?

[QUOTE="OhSnapitz"]

:lol:

btw, the 360 announced it was at 17.7 mil (not 17 mil).. And that was last year. Just though I'd add that little fact.

Kakarot00769

shipped = console sold to retailers not gamers

Remember when Nintendo was trounced by the PS1 in the N64 days? There is your dispute.

And how the PS2 destroyed the Gamecube?

Sure they have the handheld market and the Wii is "winning". But, it is in no way "undisputed".

Demetri_OS

come up w/ any aaa e from psp and ps3 that are made by sony (not its 3rd parties) .we will see how many they have?

[QUOTE="Kakarot00769"][QUOTE="OhSnapitz"]

:lol:

btw, the 360 announced it was at 17.7 mil (not 17 mil).. And that was last year. Just though I'd add that little fact.

heretrix

shipped = console sold to retailers not gamers

nintendo announces numbers that are actually sold to gamers and that makes it 22.26 million sold for wii and the nearest competitor @ 17.37 million and that gap will just keep on widening

[QUOTE="heretrix"][QUOTE="Kakarot00769"][QUOTE="OhSnapitz"]

:lol:

btw, the 360 announced it was at 17.7 mil (not 17 mil).. And that was last year. Just though I'd add that little fact.

Kakarot00769

shipped = console sold to retailers not gamers

nintendo announces numbers that are actually sold to gamers and that makes it 22.26 million sold for wii and the nearest competitor @ 17.37 million and that gap will just keep on widening

*copy*

*paste*

Proof?

thats a melee pic :Psamusarmada

I stopped reading when I saw this:

Storm_Marine

A widely acclaimed piece of insanity.

[QUOTE="Demetri_OS"]

Remember when Nintendo was trounced by the PS1 in the N64 days? There is your dispute.

And how the PS2 destroyed the Gamecube?

Sure they have the handheld market and the Wii is "winning". But, it is in no way "undisputed".

Kakarot00769

come up w/ any aaa e from psp and ps3 that are made by sony (not its 3rd parties) .we will see how many they have?

The OP states UNDISPUTED. When Nintendo clearly IS disputed.

You question makes NO sense, since I already stated the DS (PSP's competition) and the Wii (PS3's competition) is ahead. Right now, sure, they are doing great. But, since you asked it, you answer it. I do not care. I am addressing the OP on the undisputed remark.

But, in the past, they held a terrible market share with the Gamecube. And the N64 was wrecked by the PS1 (Nintendo lost Final Fantasy, Sony got Resiedent Evil, Sony got Metal Gear, Sony got Gran Turismo, etc. etc.)

Don't forget the past, thats where Nintendo make MANY mistakes.

[QUOTE="Kakarot00769"][QUOTE="Demetri_OS"]

Remember when Nintendo was trounced by the PS1 in the N64 days? There is your dispute.

And how the PS2 destroyed the Gamecube?

Sure they have the handheld market and the Wii is "winning". But, it is in no way "undisputed".

Demetri_OS

come up w/ any aaa e from psp and ps3 that are made by sony (not its 3rd parties) .we will see how many they have?

The OP states UNDISPUTED. When Nintendo clearly IS disputed.

You question makes NO sense, since I already stated the DS (PSP's competition) and the Wii (PS3's competition) is ahead. Right now, sure, they are doing great. But, since you asked it, you answer it. I do not care. I am addressing the OP on the undisputed remark.

But, in the past, they held a terrible market share with the Gamecube. And the N64 was wrecked by the PS1 (Nintendo lost Final Fantasy, Sony got Resiedent Evil, Sony got Metal Gear, Sony got Gran Turismo, etc. etc.)

Don't forget the past, thats where Nintendo make MANY mistakes.

do u have that lists of AAAE titles that are made by sony for the psp and ps3 (not their 3rd parties) yet ? or are you still talking about teh past?

[QUOTE="Kakarot00769"][QUOTE="heretrix"][QUOTE="Kakarot00769"][QUOTE="OhSnapitz"]

:lol:

btw, the 360 announced it was at 17.7 mil (not 17 mil).. And that was last year. Just though I'd add that little fact.

OhSnapitz

shipped = console sold to retailers not gamers

nintendo announces numbers that are actually sold to gamers and that makes it 22.26 million sold for wii and the nearest competitor @ 17.37 million and that gap will just keep on widening

*copy*

*paste*

Proof?

[QUOTE="OhSnapitz"][QUOTE="Kakarot00769"][QUOTE="heretrix"][QUOTE="Kakarot00769"][QUOTE="OhSnapitz"]

:lol:

btw, the 360 announced it was at 17.7 mil (not 17 mil).. And that was last year. Just though I'd add that little fact.

heretrix

shipped = console sold to retailers not gamers

nintendo announces numbers that are actually sold to gamers and that makes it 22.26 million sold for wii and the nearest competitor @ 17.37 million and that gap will just keep on widening

*copy*

*paste*

Proof?

i stopped posting links from sites in terms of numbers for consoles sold worldwide ,reason being is that if a fanboys console is getting destroyed by another console ,they will claim foul and call the site unreliable and some poster will defend the console of his favorite and call the site reputable and it will be an on going cycle , so we are not going that route ...theres only 1 solution when it comes to worldwide figures sold .only time will tell the story and by the end of the year and once all 3 console manufacturers announce their worldwide figures ,the nearest competitor to the wii will be behind by @ least 10 million units

[QUOTE="Kakarot00769"][QUOTE="OhSnapitz"]

:lol:

btw, the 360 announced it was at 17.7 mil (not 17 mil).. And that was last year. Just though I'd add that little fact.

heretrix

shipped = console sold to retailers not gamers

Yes, Nintendo and MS count systems sold to retail while Sony counts systems manufactured and in their warehouses.

Also since MS announced last year that they were at 17.7 million and there was a time in February that 360's were sold out it must be pretty safe to say that the 360 count is probably around 18 million.

They sure are consistant with review scores, but I'd honestly like to see them modernize their franchises. Thats the main reason that I abhore Nintendo first party games. They're either whimsical nonsense or are outdated experiences. I'd like to see some cutscenes, intricate stories, voice acting, and higher production values.Vandalvideo

blah, blah,.. nope. they are helping the industry forward. you aren't.

[QUOTE="heretrix"]

Kakarot00769

i stopped posting links from sites in terms of numbers for consoles sold worldwide ,reason being is that if a fanboys console is getting destroyed by another console ,they will claim foul and call the site unreliable and some poster will defend the console of his favorite and call the site reputable and it will be an on going cycle , so we are not going that route ...theres only 1 solution when it comes to worldwide figures sold .only time will tell the story and by the end of the year and once all 3 console manufacturers announce their worldwide figures ,the nearest competitor to the wii will be behind by @ least 10 million units

Translation: Numbers pulled out of your @*&! You don't know. Why not just say that instead of BS'ing?

i stopped posting links from sites in terms of numbers for consoles sold worldwide ,reason being is that if a fanboys console is getting destroyed by another console ,they will claim foul and call the site unreliable and some poster will defend the console of his favorite and call the site reputable and it will be an on going cycle , so we are not going that route ...theres only 1 solution when it comes to worldwide figures sold .only time will tell the story and by the end of the year and once all 3 console manufacturers announce their worldwide figures ,the nearest competitor to the wii will be behind by @ least 10 million units

Kakarot00769

HOW DO YOU KNOW NINTENDO COUNTS UNITS SOLD TO CUSTOMERS AND NOT SHIPPED TO RETAILERS LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE?

If you are going to post a definitive statement about something, you must expect to be called on it. And your source must be ironclad as to remove any doubt about your statement. This shouldn't be hard unless your source is suspect.

I wouldn't post a damn thing here unless I had proof. I know people get annoyed when asked for proof, but I don't see a problem with it, especially with the amount of suspect data that is casually thrown about in this forum.

My request has nothing to do with me being a fanboy, I am interested in knowing the truth, which is why I asked.

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"]They sure are consistant with review scores, but I'd honestly like to see them modernize their franchises. Thats the main reason that I abhore Nintendo first party games. They're either whimsical nonsense or are outdated experiences. I'd like to see some cutscenes, intricate stories, voice acting, and higher production values.Always-Honest

blah, blah,.. nope. they are helping the industry forward. you aren't.

Nintendo make some mistakes, but is (imo) the best developer

[QUOTE="Kakarot00769"]

i stopped posting links from sites in terms of numbers for consoles sold worldwide ,reason being is that if a fanboys console is getting destroyed by another console ,they will claim foul and call the site unreliable and some poster will defend the console of his favorite and call the site reputable and it will be an on going cycle , so we are not going that route ...theres only 1 solution when it comes to worldwide figures sold .only time will tell the story and by the end of the year and once all 3 console manufacturers announce their worldwide figures ,the nearest competitor to the wii will be behind by @ least 10 million units

heretrix

HOW DO YOU KNOW NINTENDO COUNTS UNITS SOLD TO CUSTOMERS AND NOT SHIPPED TO RETAILERS LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE?

If you are going to post a definitive statement about something, you must expect to be called on it. And your source must be ironclad as to remove any doubt about your statement. This shouldn't be hard unless your source is suspect.

I wouldn't post a damn thing here unless I had proof. I know people get annoyed when asked for proof, but I don't see a problem with it, especially with the amount of suspect data that is casually thrown about in this forum.

My request has nothing to do with me being a fanboy, I am interested in knowing the truth, which is why I asked.

p.s nintendo (most of the time @ least) will mention either their numbers are shipped (sold to retailers) or sold (sold to gamers) during their quarterly reports

[QUOTE="Always-Honest"]

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"]They sure are consistant with review scores, but I'd honestly like to see them modernize their franchises. Thats the main reason that I abhore Nintendo first party games. They're either whimsical nonsense or are outdated experiences. I'd like to see some cutscenes, intricate stories, voice acting, and higher production values.Vandalvideo

blah, blah,.. nope. they are helping the industry forward. you aren't.

no, ssbb is a small upgrade, galaxy is slightly more innovative, but the real innovation lies in wii sports, wii fitt, trauma centre, and what they've done with the ds.

so you only play true innovative games? idoubt it. probably just small upgrades from games you allready played.

story is overrated. it's an excuse for gameplay.. buy a book.

[QUOTE="Always-Honest"]

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"]They sure are consistant with review scores, but I'd honestly like to see them modernize their franchises. Thats the main reason that I abhore Nintendo first party games. They're either whimsical nonsense or are outdated experiences. I'd like to see some cutscenes, intricate stories, voice acting, and higher production values.Vandalvideo

blah, blah,.. nope. they are helping the industry forward. you aren't.

the wii-mote is a very agressive way of putting the industry forward with it's technology ,much more so than crappy voice actiing lol

no, ssbb is a small upgrade, galaxy is slightly more innovative, but the real innovation lies in wii sports, wii fitt, trauma centre, and what they've done with the ds.so you only play true innovative games? idoubt it. probably just small upgrades from games you allready played.story is overrated. it's an excuse for gameplay.. buy a book.Always-Honest

Link

[QUOTE="heretrix"][QUOTE="Kakarot00769"]

i stopped posting links from sites in terms of numbers for consoles sold worldwide ,reason being is that if a fanboys console is getting destroyed by another console ,they will claim foul and call the site unreliable and some poster will defend the console of his favorite and call the site reputable and it will be an on going cycle , so we are not going that route ...theres only 1 solution when it comes to worldwide figures sold .only time will tell the story and by the end of the year and once all 3 console manufacturers announce their worldwide figures ,the nearest competitor to the wii will be behind by @ least 10 million units

Kakarot00769

HOW DO YOU KNOW NINTENDO COUNTS UNITS SOLD TO CUSTOMERS AND NOT SHIPPED TO RETAILERS LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE?

If you are going to post a definitive statement about something, you must expect to be called on it. And your source must be ironclad as to remove any doubt about your statement. This shouldn't be hard unless your source is suspect.

I wouldn't post a damn thing here unless I had proof. I know people get annoyed when asked for proof, but I don't see a problem with it, especially with the amount of suspect data that is casually thrown about in this forum.

My request has nothing to do with me being a fanboy, I am interested in knowing the truth, which is why I asked.

p.s nintendo (most of the time @ least) will mention either their numbers are shipped (sold to retailers) or sold (sold to gamers) during their quarterly reports

Why'd you even bother to answer in the first place? It's nice to know you have no proof though.

no other company comes close to the contribution nintendo made in this industry

Kakarot00769

[QUOTE="Kakarot00769"][QUOTE="heretrix"][QUOTE="Kakarot00769"]

i stopped posting links from sites in terms of numbers for consoles sold worldwide ,reason being is that if a fanboys console is getting destroyed by another console ,they will claim foul and call the site unreliable and some poster will defend the console of his favorite and call the site reputable and it will be an on going cycle , so we are not going that route ...theres only 1 solution when it comes to worldwide figures sold .only time will tell the story and by the end of the year and once all 3 console manufacturers announce their worldwide figures ,the nearest competitor to the wii will be behind by @ least 10 million units

heretrix

HOW DO YOU KNOW NINTENDO COUNTS UNITS SOLD TO CUSTOMERS AND NOT SHIPPED TO RETAILERS LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE?

If you are going to post a definitive statement about something, you must expect to be called on it. And your source must be ironclad as to remove any doubt about your statement. This shouldn't be hard unless your source is suspect.

I wouldn't post a damn thing here unless I had proof. I know people get annoyed when asked for proof, but I don't see a problem with it, especially with the amount of suspect data that is casually thrown about in this forum.

My request has nothing to do with me being a fanboy, I am interested in knowing the truth, which is why I asked.

p.s nintendo (most of the time @ least) will mention either their numbers are shipped (sold to retailers) or sold (sold to gamers) during their quarterly reports

Why'd you even bother to answer in the first place? It's nice to know you have no proof though.

the proof that you will only accept and will not deny is that when every gaming site on the planet announces wii's lead of over 10 million units over it's nearest competitor by the end of the year ,so just wait ..we will get there

Link

raskullibur

http://www.gamespot.com/news/6187356.html?om_act=convert&om_clk=newstop&tag=newstop;title;9

[QUOTE="Always-Honest"]no, ssbb is a small upgrade, galaxy is slightly more innovative, but the real innovation lies in wii sports, wii fitt, trauma centre, and what they've done with the ds.so you only play true innovative games? idoubt it. probably just small upgrades from games you allready played.story is overrated. it's an excuse for gameplay.. buy a book.Vandalvideo

wiisports and wiifit are first party too.. the wiimote is first party and the ds is first party.. zelda: PH has great innovative controls , and so have wii sports.

i think you are the one playing modernised games mainly while you accuse nintendo of doing the same. fans ask fore these games.

Voice over isn't required at all... why?. you have somne strange standards.. story is of NO importance in games and are usually very unoriginal (save the world/ defeat the enemy). The only thing i dislike about the wii are the graphics.. i'd like them to be up to par with 360 or ps3.. but gameplay is fine.

[QUOTE="raskullibur"]

Link

Kakarot00769

http://www.gamespot.com/news/6187356.html?om_act=convert&om_clk=newstop&tag=newstop;title;9

Nintendo is still the best because they have GOTY.

[QUOTE="heretrix"][QUOTE="Kakarot00769"][QUOTE="heretrix"][QUOTE="Kakarot00769"]

i stopped posting links from sites in terms of numbers for consoles sold worldwide ,reason being is that if a fanboys console is getting destroyed by another console ,they will claim foul and call the site unreliable and some poster will defend the console of his favorite and call the site reputable and it will be an on going cycle , so we are not going that route ...theres only 1 solution when it comes to worldwide figures sold .only time will tell the story and by the end of the year and once all 3 console manufacturers announce their worldwide figures ,the nearest competitor to the wii will be behind by @ least 10 million units

Kakarot00769

HOW DO YOU KNOW NINTENDO COUNTS UNITS SOLD TO CUSTOMERS AND NOT SHIPPED TO RETAILERS LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE?

If you are going to post a definitive statement about something, you must expect to be called on it. And your source must be ironclad as to remove any doubt about your statement. This shouldn't be hard unless your source is suspect.

I wouldn't post a damn thing here unless I had proof. I know people get annoyed when asked for proof, but I don't see a problem with it, especially with the amount of suspect data that is casually thrown about in this forum.

My request has nothing to do with me being a fanboy, I am interested in knowing the truth, which is why I asked.

p.s nintendo (most of the time @ least) will mention either their numbers are shipped (sold to retailers) or sold (sold to gamers) during their quarterly reports

Why'd you even bother to answer in the first place? It's nice to know you have no proof though.

the proof that you will only accept and will not deny is that when every gaming site on the planet announces wii's lead of over 10 million units over it's nearest competitor by the end of the year ,so just wait ..we will get there

I asked you nicely TWICE and you respond to me with some nonsense about fanboys not believing you. Forget I asked, as it seems you don't have an intelligent response to what I thought, was a pretty simple request. I'm far from a fanboy of any faction here, I have owned all of the consoles and handhelds at one time or another. I'm just looking for reliable data. You have none. Good day.