Nintendo Dangerously Close to Going The Way Of Sega

[QUOTE="SaltyMeatballs"]If Nintendo survived the Gamecube they will be fine with 3DS and Wii U.AvIdGaMeR444

Nintendo survived Gamecube because of strong handheld sales. If a circumstance arises where there are sales flops of both 3DS and Wii U, Nintendo will be in serious trouble.

[QUOTE="SaltyMeatballs"]If Nintendo survived the Gamecube they will be fine with 3DS and Wii U.AvIdGaMeR444

Nintendo survived Gamecube because of strong handheld sales. If a circumstance arises where there are sales flops of both 3DS and Wii U, Nintendo will be in serious trouble.

Nintendo was never in danger from the GCN, they still made a significant profit even though it sold poorly compared to the PS2. Nintendo is worth more than all of Sony, Sony would go down long before Nintendo does.

Yea man....they need to grow up man. Nintendo could easily make Sony & Microsoft better gaming companies if they came stronger, with stronger games. An industry is only as strong as it weakest link. Coolyfett is a little tired of Nintendo being the inferior brand. They need to come harder!!!

Coolyfett

You know that Nintendo is older than both Sony and Microsoft, right? You say they need to grow up, why? because your tired of their games?

Did the cube launch at the same time as the PS2, no it didn't and that crippled it right away. By the time the Cube launched it was going up against an established PS2 with an already formidabble library as well as the fact that the PS2 rode in on the PS1's success. That will also cripple the Vita as well, you cannot give your competition up to a year head start and hope to catch up (The PS3 and Wii doing it are the exceptions and not the rule). When has a Nintendo console launched first and lost saleswise to it's competition.

ugoo18

Did the Wii launch at the same time at the 360? No it didn't and it made no difference.

Exceptions or not, I don't think a one year difference makes any major impact in the sales. Botched launches do though.

The 360 had unreliable consoles and few good games, the PS3 had a horrendous price tag...The Wii won because it had a successful launch and was UNIQUE.

Besides, Nintendo was so successful with the Wii and DS largely because of the casual market. Why should the casual market come to Nintendo when smartphones outclass the 3DS?

Touchscreen? Phones have that.

Good graphics? Phones have it.

3D? Phones are getting it but it's an unpopular gimmick.

Games? Thousands of them on the App Store. Very few 3rd-party ones on the 3DS due to lack of developer confidence in the system.

Cheap? The iPhone 4 is $150. The 3DS is $250. Which is the better deal?

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I don't think established Nintendo franchises are THAT influential to draw significant numbers to the system.

(Maybe 20 million casual, 20 million hardcore lifetime sales or less)

What sold the Wii and the DS was their uniqueness.

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[QUOTE="SaltyMeatballs"]If Nintendo survived the Gamecube they will be fine with 3DS and Wii U.ugoo18

Nintendo survived Gamecube because of strong handheld sales. If a circumstance arises where there are sales flops of both 3DS and Wii U, Nintendo will be in serious trouble.

Nintendo was never in danger from the GCN, they still made a significant profit even though it sold poorly compared to the PS2. Nintendo is worth more than all of Sony, Sony would go down long before Nintendo does.

I thought most profit was from handheld sales. But yeah, I was exaggerating about Nintendo being in trouble. They wouldn't actually be in trouble financially. What I think could happen though is that Nintendo would never allow themselves to get into a position to where they even lost $1 over a fiscal year. And because of that, if profits were to keep dwindling over the years, it wouldn't surprise me if Nintendo got out of the console business for good. Microsoft can afford to have losses in the gaming market. Same with Sony. Nintendo can't because that is their only market.

Anyone who thinks the 3DS wont do well this holiday season might want to consider a stay at the Betty Ford Clinic.

Sega struggled for about 7 years with 2 failed consoles, 2 failed add ons and one failed handheld before they finally called it quits

Nintendo JUST raked in a few BILLION dollars pretty much every year inbetween 2006-2010... And they struggle with a bad launch and people think they are going the way of Sega?.. You people are out of your minds.

Sega struggled for about 7 years with 2 failed consoles, 2 failed add ons and one failed handheld before they finally called it quits

Nintendo JUST raked in a few BILLION dollars pretty much every year inbetween 2006-2010... And they struggle with a bad launch and people think they are going the way of Sega?.. You people are out of your minds.

VendettaRed07

Nintendos profits are down becuase wii is going out next year. All profits go down in the last year for consoles. as for the 3ds its sales are not that bad it just needs more games. come this fall it will be selling much better. all these nintendo are doomed posts are pretty lame. Hater gona hate!

Well I'd be glad if they stopped making consoles. All they've been doing lately is making overpriced gimmick devices that has horrible 3rd parties backing it up.

If Sony can pull through the release that was the ps3,I'm sure Ninty will pull through this one.

Lto_thaG

Tired of what they do...if they came with some real games, Coolyfett might buy a 3DS or Wii U, but they have this little Disney channel/Nickolodean groove they are in and have been in for such a long time. When will Nintendo make games like Mafia, GTA, Uncharted, Halo, Monster Hunter, Batman Arkham....NOT Third parties either. Big boy games made BY Nintendo...why they keep making the same sesame street games Coolyfett was playing in 86 87?? They need to come harder man. Its good for the industry if they did. Thats why Sony over charged for the PS3, because they only had one firm they were competiting against and that was Microsoft. It was Sony vs Microsoft to SONY, Nintendo was never on the battle field, because of what Nintendo does. Nintendo has no competition with the stuff they do. They just sit in the corner by themselves...

Coolyfett

When will Gearbox make a game that's catered towards kids? Or Frictional create a game that's catered towards happiness and light?

If you're obsessed with playing only "big-boy" games, then you really have quite the childish mindset.

Nintendo has no competition because they absolutely smashed both MS and Sony this gen. Sales prove that. The only reason there is a "battle" between MS and sony, is because they're fighting out for second place to sit besides Nintendo's glorious golden throne.

There is a distinct difference between the situation Sega was in when they released the Dreamcast, and the situation Nintendo is when they release the Wii-U:

Sega was already in their death bed after the Saturn's failure, Nintendo is coming off of a successful console and a handheld.

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[QUOTE="SaltyMeatballs"]If Nintendo survived the Gamecube they will be fine with 3DS and Wii U.ugoo18

Nintendo survived Gamecube because of strong handheld sales. If a circumstance arises where there are sales flops of both 3DS and Wii U, Nintendo will be in serious trouble.

Nintendo was never in danger from the GCN, they still made a significant profit even though it sold poorly compared to the PS2. Nintendo is worth more than all of Sony, Sony would go down long before Nintendo does.

I wouldn't mind Nintendo going software only. I dont buy their consoles anymore.

Fizzman

The difference between Nintendo and Sega is that even when Nintendo has a console that doesn't sell as much as the competition, they will still make more money than their competition. Nintendo isn't going anywhere anytime soon.

The difference between Nintendo and Sega is that even when Nintendo has a console that doesn't sell as much as the competition, they will still make more money than their competition. Nintendo isn't going anywhere anytime soon.

bc1391

Sorry TC, not gonna happen.

Where there's games, there's Nintendo™.

to totally shut down they'd have to be losing significant amounts of money. even if their profits plummet they're still....yno...making a profit.

No. Everything they sell pulls a profit... so they are on the opposite side of the spectrum to where SEGA was when they released the Dreamcast. I'm amazed at how a couple slow months and its "OMG NINTENDOZ IZ DIEING!"foxhound_fox

Only in System Wars, dude.

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[QUOTE="Coolyfett"]

Tired of what they do...if they came with some real games, Coolyfett might buy a 3DS or Wii U, but they have this little Disney channel/Nickolodean groove they are in and have been in for such a long time. When will Nintendo make games like Mafia, GTA, Uncharted, Halo, Monster Hunter, Batman Arkham....NOT Third parties either. Big boy games made BY Nintendo...why they keep making the same sesame street games Coolyfett was playing in 86 87?? They need to come harder man. Its good for the industry if they did. Thats why Sony over charged for the PS3, because they only had one firm they were competiting against and that was Microsoft. It was Sony vs Microsoft to SONY, Nintendo was never on the battle field, because of what Nintendo does. Nintendo has no competition with the stuff they do. They just sit in the corner by themselves...

Coolyfett

When will Gearbox make a game that's catered towards kids? Or Frictional create a game that's catered towards happiness and light?

If you're obsessed with playing only "big-boy" games, then you really have quite the childish mindset.

Nintendo has no competition because they absolutely smashed both MS and Sony this gen. Sales prove that. The only reason there is a "battle" between MS and sony, is because they're fighting out for second place to sit besides Nintendo's glorious golden throne.

Nintendo is not in the same league with Sony & Microsoft. They sold more because their product was cheaper, not better. Coolyfett Wins.

Coolyfett

Cheaper by 50 bucks. Nintendo had the better appeal. Nintendo wins.

You're right, they aren't in the same league. Nintendo surpassed them by a wide margin this generation. Not to mention they have more better-scoring exclusives (From A and upward.) Coolyfett loses to facts.

[QUOTE="OreoMilkshake"]Like how the Gamecube sold more than PS2.Coolyfett

[QUOTE="OreoMilkshake"][QUOTE="Coolyfett"]What??? GC sold more than PS2? Interesting.

Coolyfett

I hate the Wii, think the 3DS is stupid, and probably will never own a Wii U...and even I know this is a useless thread. Nintendo just dominated the console competition in terms of sales with the Wii and DS. It's common knowledge that they sell all their hardware for profit, so its not like the PS3/PSV where Sony was taking a loss for every console sold. Nintendo isn't going anywhere until digital downloading takes over (prob in another decade or 2).

[QUOTE="OreoMilkshake"]Cheaper = More sales.Coolyfett

They faced a drop in their profits.

In their profits.

They aren't going anywhere, especially after dominating this gen as they did.

[QUOTE="OreoMilkshake"]Have fun thinking that.Coolyfett

By making unlimited amounts of money with the Wii?

yeah... :P

I haven't purchased a Nintendo console since the Super Nintendo. So if they are headed towards more of a software company that might actually be a good thing. Their first party developers are above average.KC_Hokie

I thought you owned a wii?

[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]I haven't purchased a Nintendo console since the Super Nintendo. So if they are headed towards more of a software company that might actually be a good thing. Their first party developers are above average.theuncharted34

I thought you owned a wii?

I think the 3DS sales may pick up once ninty decides to market the system right to the people that think it's a new DS iteration.

super600

[QUOTE="super600"]

I think the 3DS sales may pick up once ninty decides to market the system right to the people that think it's a new DS iteration.

tomarlyn

lol, system wars

Take a look. Surely they are going the way of Sega. Sure they making unfriendly decisions but please lets not get silly.

I saw a chart dating from 1994 to current. trust me. Nintendo has raked up 25 billion dollars inprofitsover the past 16 years. lets not get carried away

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That article and any other article that says that is misinformed, if anyone is likely to go the way of Sega by then it's Sony. Nintendo is worth more financially that all of Sony (Not just it's gaming division but the entire Sony Corporation). They could take multiple bad gens and still be in a stable position because they always make a profit. The GCN might not have been as successful as Nintendo's home consoles usually are but they still made a hell of a profit, how many more PS3 gens could Sony take.

ugoo18

[QUOTE="tomarlyn"][QUOTE="super600"]

I think the 3DS sales may pick up once ninty decides to market the system right to the people that think it's a new DS iteration.

Coolyfett