Nintendo Dangerously Close to Going The Way Of Sega

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#151 meetroid8
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Sega drove their company to the ground and were very close to going bankrupt for a few years. Nintendo has been more profitable these last several years than at any time in their history. The situations aren't at all similar. Even if both the Wii U and 3DS tanked Nintendo could still pull through into another hardware release. Now if the 3DS Wii U and their future console all sell very poorly there might be a chance of them going software only. Don't count on it..
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#152 bobcheeseball
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Good God. Nintendo is not even close to being in danger. Like not at ALL.
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#153 HarlockJC
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Nintendo will be just fine and sometimes taking a hit on the chin can be a good learning lesson. Nintendo does an amazing job making games, one of the best at doing it. They just need to open there eyes a little and make more genre of gaming. What I mean is I don't want them to stop making Mario and Zelda games. I will take a sequel to one of those any day over new IPs. But that does not mean they can't make new IPs also.
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#154 BIOKILLER123
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Whoever who thinks this probably thought the same thing before and after the Wii hit the market.

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#155 ChubbyGuy40
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Nintendo will be just fine and sometimes taking a hit on the chin can be a good learning lesson. Nintendo does an amazing job making games, one of the best at doing it. They just need to open there eyes a little and make more genre of gaming. What I mean is I don't want them to stop making Mario and Zelda games. I will take a sequel to one of those any day over new IPs. But that does not mean they can't make new IPs also. HarlockJC

I like Nintendo how they are currently. I wish they'd hire a lot more devs so they can pump out core titles more often.

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#156 Blaze-Agent
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[QUOTE="ugoo18"]

That article and any other article that says that is misinformed, if anyone is likely to go the way of Sega by then it's Sony. Nintendo is worth more financially that all of Sony (Not just it's gaming division but the entire Sony Corporation). They could take multiple bad gens and still be in a stable position because they always make a profit. The GCN might not have been as successful as Nintendo's home consoles usually are but they still made a hell of a profit, how many more PS3 gens could Sony take.

ZIVX

I remember reading this somewhere apparently Nintendo has a couple more billion dollars than the entirety of Sony, but I can't find the article anymore

in market worth? a few years (before their recent woes) yes they were worth more than aony as a whole. but that really does not not mean much.

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#157 Ikouze
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Nintendo has obviously catered too much to the casual game market. That's a reason I sold my Wii because the games on there were just pitful . It seems like they cared more for the casuals than the hardcore. You hardly see and good games that come out on it.

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#158 ChubbyGuy40
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Nintendo has obviously catered too much to the casual game market. That's a reason I sold my Wii because the games on there were just pitful . It seems like they cared more for the casuals than the hardcore. You hardly see and good games that come out on it.

Ikouze

I have about 30+ games on the Wii. Hardly see good games come out? That's not true.

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#159 bbkkristian
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Nintendo has obviously catered too much to the casual game market. That's a reason I sold my Wii because the games on there were just pitful . It seems like they cared more for the casuals than the hardcore. You hardly see and good games that come out on it.

Ikouze

You must have had a lot of money to play all the good games that quick. I haven't even got a SMG game yet :P But I agree with you, Nintendo did cater too much to the casuals.

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#160 peterw007
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[QUOTE="HarlockJC"]Nintendo will be just fine and sometimes taking a hit on the chin can be a good learning lesson. Nintendo does an amazing job making games, one of the best at doing it. They just need to open there eyes a little and make more genre of gaming. What I mean is I don't want them to stop making Mario and Zelda games. I will take a sequel to one of those any day over new IPs. But that does not mean they can't make new IPs also. ChubbyGuy40

I like Nintendo how they are currently. I wish they'd hire a lot more devs so they can pump out core titles more often.

A lot of devs don't like being pigeon-holed into what Nintendo expects.

No blood, no gore, no multiplayer shooters...and definitely no swearing, but still popular with hardcore and casual audiences alike.

It takes a creative genius (former Rare, Retro Studios, Intelligent Systems) to pull titles like that off successfully, especially in this COD-obsessed era.

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#161 LegatoSkyheart
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I don't understand this notion at all.

The reason the 3DS has slow sales is because there isn't that much software out for it.

Not to mention the Price Point and such but I'm pretty sure the 3DS has already done a lot more sales wise than any product Sega has put out in the past.

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#162 austi722
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[QUOTE="austi722"][QUOTE="DJ-Lafleur"]

I laughed at the part where they thought Nintendo was doomed.

Bith the Wii and DS were huge successes. The wii won the console wars this gen. The GBA is probably one of the best-selling handhelds ever. Once the 3DS gets pokemon and Mario Kart and the usual stuff I'm positive it will be successful as well.

Nintendo will be fine.

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Wii lost the console war this gen sorry.Nintenndo will live.Anything made by nintendo sells.

Wait a minute, what? :?

I countered him with saying the Wii lost since he said it won.Though the gen isn't over yet.Not until the next consoles are released
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#163 Mario1331
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oh god nintendo is right now the gaming company WITH the most money, they make insane profit on all their systems smh stuff like this irks me

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#164 Lost-Memory
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After the profits they made on the wii ? Not a chance !!
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#165 Bandit_Haze
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http://www.joystiq.com/2011/04/25/nintendo-profits-fall-66-in-fiscal-year-3ds-sells-3-61-million/

I've also read further articles that stated if Nintendo Sales don't pick up for 3DS, and do very well for the new Wii-U when it releases then Nintendo could very well be just a software company by 2013.

Let's hope it doesn't come to that but only time will tell, looks like the 3D gimmick of 3DS was a bad move, lets hope this new so called interactive controller for the Wii-U is a much better gimmick, otherwise i think Nintendo isn't long for hardware production.

Slimmin360

Nintendo would go out of business before they go software only. but it's true, seems a lot of people are starting to or have already lost love for Nintendo. They have great ideas for consoles, but good exclusive games are few and far between.

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#166 Nozizaki
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[QUOTE="Slimmin360"]

http://www.joystiq.com/2011/04/25/nintendo-profits-fall-66-in-fiscal-year-3ds-sells-3-61-million/

I've also read further articles that stated if Nintendo Sales don't pick up for 3DS, and do very well for the new Wii-U when it releases then Nintendo could very well be just a software company by 2013.

Let's hope it doesn't come to that but only time will tell, looks like the 3D gimmick of 3DS was a bad move, lets hope this new so called interactive controller for the Wii-U is a much better gimmick, otherwise i think Nintendo isn't long for hardware production.

Bandit_Haze

Nintendo would go out of business before they go software only. but it's true, seems a lot of people are starting to or have already lost love for Nintendo. They have great ideas for consoles, but good exclusive games are few and far between.

...what? All the Wii had was exclusives since multiplats would have to be built almost entirely from the ground up.

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#167 MattDistillery
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I wouldn't mind if Nintendo became 3rd party and it would probably mean they would be required to inovate there games and release new Ip's to sell on those consoles.
I mean it's my dream to have a full cinematic zelda (Without link speaking) on an HD console.

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#168 clone01
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3DS has not been in a holiday season yet. I think it's still too early to write it off.funsohng
And Nintendo is a lot like apple in the sense that they'll re-design and re-release.
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#169 KBFloYd
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I wouldn't mind if Nintendo became 3rd party and it would probably mean they would be required to inovate there games and release new Ip's to sell on those consoles.
I mean it's my dream to have a full cinematic zelda (Without link speaking) on an HD console.

MattDistillery

then buy a wiiU :lol:

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#170 Mario1331
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[QUOTE="funsohng"]3DS has not been in a holiday season yet. I think it's still too early to write it off.clone01
And Nintendo is a lot like apple in the sense that they'll re-design and re-release.

this is wha i dont get nintendo can cut the price and redesign it if it was truly failing...they have that plan b luxury

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#171 Zophar87
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With the mass amounts of hardware they sold, it's not going to happen.

Sorry hater.

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#172 DarkLink77
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Um... no.

Not even close.

Do you even understand the severity of and the sheer number of bad business decisions SEGA made? Protip: They were bad, and there was a lot of them. And this went on for years before they finally couldn't afford to stay in the hardware business.

Nintendo makes a profit on every piece of hardware they sell. They're not going anywhere.

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#173 silversix_
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I wouldn't mind Nintendo going software only. I dont buy their consoles anymore.

Fizzman

Pretty much. More competition=better but i really don't want Nintendo to bring another stupid *innovation* and see every other console follow...no nintendo=better.

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#174 RandomWinner
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Nintendo lost a ton of money on the N64 and the Gamecube right? So if they still had a third shot and were successful I think both would have to fail pretty hard to hurt Nintendo. The 3DS is poised to make a gigantic profit, with over 3 million sold I feel confident that they've made 300 million off that beast so far. That's a lot of money! But that's what happens if you price your system to make $100 profit per unit.

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#175 NaveedLife
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If they keep this crap up they just might :P

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#176 DarkLink77
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[QUOTE="Fizzman"]

I wouldn't mind Nintendo going software only. I dont buy their consoles anymore.

silversix_

Pretty much. More competition=better but i really don't want Nintendo to bring another stupid *innovation* and see every other console follow...no nintendo=better.

Yeah, less consoles on the market would totally be better. :roll:
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#177 silversix_
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[QUOTE="silversix_"]

[QUOTE="Fizzman"]

I wouldn't mind Nintendo going software only. I dont buy their consoles anymore.

DarkLink77

Pretty much. More competition=better but i really don't want Nintendo to bring another stupid *innovation* and see every other console follow...no nintendo=better.

Yeah, less consoles on the market would totally be better. :roll:

As i said, more competition=better but do Nintendo really compeats with the other two? No... I say another company should make a console! Apple suck but they have boatload of money so why no? I would go with them or any other companies if WiiU is as bad as Wii this gen...

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#178 DarkLink77
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[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="silversix_"]Pretty much. More competition=better but i really don't want Nintendo to bring another stupid *innovation* and see every other console follow...no nintendo=better.

silversix_

Yeah, less consoles on the market would totally be better. :roll:

As i said, more competion=better but do Nintendo really compeats with the other two? No... I say another company should make a console! Apple suck but they have boatload of money so why no? I would go with them or any other companies if WiiU is as bad as Wii this gen...

The Wii isn't the best console ever, but Nintendo's done a lot of awesome things with hardware, and I'd hate to see that disappear because people don't care for motion controls.
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#179 silversix_
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[QUOTE="silversix_"]

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"] Yeah, less consoles on the market would totally be better. :roll:DarkLink77

As i said, more competion=better but do Nintendo really compeats with the other two? No... I say another company should make a console! Apple suck but they have boatload of money so why no? I would go with them or any other companies if WiiU is as bad as Wii this gen...

The Wii isn't the best console ever, but Nintendo's done a lot of awesome things with hardware, and I'd hate to see that disappear because people don't care for motion controls.

Its a forum, i'm talking for myself and i can't stand waggle so if this dissapears i'll go buy a cake and celebrate. If nintendo becomes like they were back in N64 days (and b4 that) then this would be the last company i would want to be gone but since GC they're really.............guess its just me.

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#180 DarkLink77
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[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="silversix_"]As i said, more competion=better but do Nintendo really compeats with the other two? No... I say another company should make a console! Apple suck but they have boatload of money so why no? I would go with them or any other companies if WiiU is as bad as Wii this gen...

silversix_

The Wii isn't the best console ever, but Nintendo's done a lot of awesome things with hardware, and I'd hate to see that disappear because people don't care for motion controls.

Its a forum, i'm talking for myself and i can't stand waggle so if this dissapears i'll go buy a cake and celebrate. If nintendo becomes like they were back in N64 days (and b4 that) then this would be the last company i would want to be gone but since GC they're really.............guess its just me.

You didn't like the GCN? Why not?
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#181 mariokart64fan
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lol dont even bother 3ds has sold more then that it sold 3.86 million the first month in usa alone its whole shipment was gone lol so dont even try pulling that

also nintendo is still making profit and hello they have all declined this year thanks to obama! and people not having jobs lol you expect sales to go through the roof sorry - youll wait , just like ds

ya remember that dont ya

no good launch games except a port of a n64 title, did not pick up substantial sales until 2005- with the release of mariokart ,, nuff said

and nintendos making profit off each 3ds ds wii they sell , they are not like sega in any way sega was struggling! how is nintendo close to that lol , if its already got 3 million according to you- dreamcast or saturn only had 10 million in thier life time!

how is 3 million in 3 months as bad as sega ya i dont get you pal , to be sega pft, you have to sell less then 100 k each month , and 3ds has sold more then that each month lol sega ya did not think so and that ten million is a world wide figure for the dreamcast in 2 years lol , on the market if 3ds reaches ten less then 2 you will have some excplaining to do , oh and sega saturn was a 3 years old platform that only sold 10 million so lets up the stakes shall we ,

and lets not forget what did sega have to fall back on when the dc flopped-nothing

nintendo has ds and wii to fall back on stil today lol selling rather good to to add to the 3ds which that site and you believe is like sega i dont think so ,

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#182 Swift_Boss_A
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Soooo... we are simply going to forget that Wii made them filthy rich and more than capable of handling another gen ?
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#183 WAHAHAHAHAHAWA
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nintendo doesnt care about the generation that grew up playing nes,snes,n64 anymore. They're now focused on getting my grandma and some 3 year old playing games.
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#184 mariokart64fan
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[QUOTE="Asim90"]

[QUOTE="bbkkristian"]

[QUOTE="peterw007"]

Why should a casual buy a 3DS for games when they have their phone?

That's a problem the Vita is going to have as well. Its the handheld's biggest enemy.

That's why its aimed at the younger audience, the once without smartphones. (I know count is even dwindling these days :roll: )

Not entirely. There have been mature games announced too. I'd say they're aiming it at everyone, not just the younger audience.

what ? i didnt know ps3 ports were counted as a core title where as 3ds has these resident evil mercenaries driver renegade mariokart luigis mansion 2 zelda oot pilot wings splintercell ghost recon , ridge racer asphalt rayman super mario bros 3d-coming , mgs 3-coming , starfox -coming , ya pal those aint hard core enough -- haah you fail , we played those games since snes -ps1 era -re etc , so i dont see how their not core! keep trying lets not forget vita will have to deal with launch where as 3ds has already passed that phase with flying colors
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#185 super600  Moderator
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nintendo doesnt care about the generation that grew up playing nes,snes,n64 anymore. They're now focused on getting my grandma and some 3 year old playing games.WAHAHAHAHAHAWA

They are trying to aim for everyone this time. At E32011 theytold everyone that they failed at making the Wii a system that can aleastplease both the hardcore and the casual groups.They are aiming to do that for the WiiU.