Nintendo Hardware is underpowered! 8 more days until Nintendo spills the beans

shocking that a newer gen hardware is weaker than current gen console leader.

@drummerdave9099: It was still a joke mate. That third party couldnt save it. Hell, even Wii U with all its shatty support and poor messaging almost caught up with it in sales.

They are trying to rewrite history to win an argument.

Famicom/NES came out a full 2 years before the Sega Mark lll/Master System. That means for a full two years the Famicom was the most powerful console on the market.

You can't compare the Switch to Famicom since the Switch is coming out three years after the current competition and is much weaker.

@flyincloud1116: Your the one trying to rewrite history. Other then N64, they were all weaker. And even N64 had many short comings compared to the competition.

That's a fact. Wii started this we are not concerned with power stuff and the fanboys are trying to say that is how Nintendo has always been.

Oh the irony. Because I've never seen people trying to rewrite history in regards to reception of ONE certain Nintendo console. No one should be talking on that front.

To each their own but for me it was not only the worst Nintendo console but was the worst console in general I ever owned and the first console I ever sold within the first year of owning it.

For the record, the GC Zelda WW game was the best game I played on the Wii but TBH, likely because I just really disliked the whole Wiimote Nunchuck thing. :P

HAHAHAHA! Sure...

@flyincloud1116: We are stating Nintendo has never focused on power. They just make awesome gaming consoles.

See thats strange cause Wind Waker is maybe my least favorite Zelda game.

So what does that have to do with anything? So basically you are in agreement with me, thanks.

Totally not true, but believe what you will.

It's all good, we gamers have different taste and opinions vary but you may be in the minority there since "N" felt WW was the first one they thought to do a Wii U version, not the others. :P

@SecretPolice: Probably because of its art style. It was easiest to do. But Twilight Princess HD's art is amazing.

Nope, just calling out the hypocrisy of calling out someone for rewriting history when posters on this site have done the same freaking thing for the reception of ONE Nintendo console in particular, just because it wasn't any of it's follow ups.

One of the best games ever.

I have not idea what you talking about, nor do I care. Have a good one.

Nintendo cared about power in terms of their home consoles up until they got their asses handed to them during the 6th generation. It was only until the release of the original Wii that Nintendo stopped caring about power.

Agreed.

@emgesp: Nintendo got beat in power by every single device other then N64 which has its own issues. Wii era was just when super rich corporations come after Nintendo. Nintendo couldnt afford to compete which such large companies. Also the industry was starting to see smaller gains in graphics.

The power of a system matters. When the competition is getting all of the games because of power, power matters. Nintendo has lingered with weaker systems for decades and its decline in the console market is a consequence of this choice. The Wii was a slightly better system to the Gamecube hardware wise. Wii sold crazy amounts of hardware but lack almost all third party games to which the vast majority of gamers play. The Switch is slightly better than Wii U and the Wii U is Nintendo's current gen that is sporting last gen performance. Now they are releasing a newer system that is weaker than the WiiU when not docked and is sporting performance of systems that was released 11 years ago. So, don't try to argue that people are simple obsessed with power and is being unfair to Nintendo. Nintendo is ripping consumers with their half ass systems.

This is Nintendo. Offer shittier hardware at a premium price. So, the competition offers superior hardware and superior performance at a cheaper price. Why would anyone want shittier hardware and pay more.

So??? The Gamecube was still very powerful for its generation. Nobody said Nintendo has to have the most powerful console, Jesus. We just wanted them to at least meet current gen standards.

@emgesp: And yet Xbox whooped that arse. First console ever made and smoked that beach. Microsoft was all, this so easy? Like it was nothing.

Yeah and it was a lot more expensive as well, so of course it was going to be more powerful.

Powerwise

SMS<NES

SNES<Sega Genesis

PS1, Saturn<N64

PS2<GC=Xbox (GC was really about neck and neck with the xbox)

Too bad nobody believed it that era.

Weak ass hardware for a brand new console that doesn't have any real gameplay gimmick like the WiiU is a major problem no matter how you swing it.

Power doesn't win console generations, I understand that completely. Games and marketing do. Games wise Nintendo is hurting and having that weak of a console just destroyed the chances of multiplats being ported. The power gap between the Xbox One and Switch is just too great to port the games easily. So you can kiss 3rd party support goodbye yet again.

Without 3rd party support Nintendo needs to convince us that it's worth it to drop $299 in addition to another one of our consoles. It can't just take the place of an existing console. I have to own at least two to be able to play the majority of games that get released. That's a massive marketing hurdle.

Yes the Switch has generated the most internet buzz and had a flashy commercial, but as a practical product, the mobile aspects of the Switch are pointless. It doesn't replace any of your existing mobile devices and just adds to your load. The rumors of the battery life are extremely distressing to any mobile user. So really the whole mobile element of the Switch is going to come off as near useless gimmick most of the time and, outside of some pretty hardcore Nintendo fans, dropping $299 on that gimmick is going to be a much to swallow. This is in addition to the fact that the Switch's game library is going to be terrible compared to the Xbox One and PS4's because of lack of 3rd party games. Nobody gives a shit about Skyrim either. It came out in 2011. Getting a port of a 5 year old game is not 3rd party support.

To make matters worse, Nintendo is abysmal at marketing. They aren't going to be convincing anybody but Nintendo fans that this is a great product. It's too expensive and limiting to replace or supplement tablets that parents buy their kids today (RIP dedicated handhelds) and it's not enough to compete against the PS4 or Xbox One. Who the hell is the market for this thing? Young adults who already carry 1-3 mobile devise with them? Yes, bringing my switch tablet out to Starbucks to sit and ignore the world around me is exactly what I want in a social setting.

Before you say we don't know the price, the Nintendo Switch has comparable hardware to $200 tablets but has a lot more little bits and pieces needed to manufacture, test, and package. It's not going to be anything less than $299. Hell I can see them screwing up and going $350.

N64 was the most powerful 5th gen console it just lacked proper storage space for game data with its cartridge format, but the actual CPU and GPU were definitely superior to both the PS1 and Saturn. The only good thing about the Saturn is that its got great 2D capabilities, but its 3D performance is garbage.

@Wasdie: Graphics are gimmicks bro. 3DS is weak and had better support than Vita. And that same device is sold out everwhere at $199 same time you could buy Vitas dirt cheap and Xbox One S and PS4 for $213. And 3DS is old.

Its all about them games. Pokemon is selling out everywhere at regular price. People want them games.

Yup. Just another redundant device we have to buy to get a game. I wish I could just play Zelda on my PC, it would save me a few hundred dollars and some space next to the TV. Hey maybe since it's so under-powered........

You do realise that the Switch is being marketed as a home console right? The dynamics of mobile gaming is not the same as home console gaming. Blurting out graphics are gimmicks is escaping the fact that the Switch is as strong as 11 year old hardware and is going to be sold for greater than the current gen systems but significantly weaker. Secondly Nintendo has almost no third party support and having a system this weak is not going to make things better. The DS and 3DS has a strong userbase in the mobile sector but Nintendo has a weak userbase home console side. Even when they had a strong userbase with the Wii, most of the users didn't buy anything beyond the games that was bundled in.

@pyro1245: People in hell want ice water.

@Pedro: Thats why they merging it. They bringing that awesome support together.

Incoming... But bu bu... 3DS is a console BS. :P

@SecretPolice: We arent allowed, i was warned by a mod we can get banned for it. They said, fack what wiki said, bring that shat up again.

This will sell better than the Wii U, but only if the price is right and Nintendo themselves actually support the thing without massive software droughts. Though, even with all that at best it will only sell half as well as the 3DS.

@emgesp: Will sell better than Gamecube too. And really, thats all we need. Nintendo dont need to sell crazy numbers.

@iandizion713: The 3DS is a completely different product than the Switch is intending on being. It also has an established game library and a much lower price point. I'm not going to even address that bullshit of "sold out everywhere" as I just found hundreds of them online for that price. So you're just flat out wrong. Shitty stocked stores in your area are not an indication of the performance of a device.

Pokemon is not on the Switch and won't be for a long time. A handheld with $50 games and a 3 hour battery life is not going to stack up very well against modern tablets that have 10+ hour battery life and $5 games. The era of the handheld is over and the Switch's higher price point, higher priced games, and lack of functionality (no proper mobile OS like iOS and Android) makes it pretty much impossible to compete against other products in the market.

The only people who will give a shit about this device are Nintendo fanboys. Same thing happened with the WiiU while everybody assured me that they were going to somehow emulate the Wii's success with it.

@Wasdie: Im not even gonna address them silly rumors mate. Ill wait for Nintendo's statement. Haters gonna hate.

@iandizion713:

It's funny because the old king sheep and mod Char and me went round & round because he sought basically for the first time in a console NPD thread to edit the original title. X1 wins NPD to 3DS wins NPD and I was having none of his X1 smear campaign that day. lol. Happy things are back to normal thinking. :P

How is it going to sell better than a Wii U? It's still going to lack the games because of how weak it is and it's price point is going to be even higher than the Wii U. Do not take internet enthusiasm for real life demand for a product. Outside of being a major Nintendo fan, there is no reason to own a Switch. It's an inferior console that converts into an inferior tablet all for more money.

@SecretPolice: 3DS always wins NPD. But yeah, its silly that when Xbox finally wins they try to write, 3DS wins.

Look how upset Nintendo got when the GC only managed to sell 20 million units. They considered it a failure, even if they did make profit.

I highly doubt Nintendo only expects the Switch to sell a little better than GC, or that would be truly sad.

@emgesp: Bro, Gamecube sold at profit. Sure it underperformed, but Nintendo still did fine. Same with Wii U, Nintendo still gets by.

Well it'll get double the support from 1st party teams given the unified platform. All those 3DS only teams will now be making Switch games.

You came hard. Oh it's called SAVAGE now a days.

In other words you got no rebuttle and are praying that Nintendo yet again disappoints everybody.

I got bad news for you bro. Nintendo has been disappointing its fans since 2006 and that's not going to change. They are completly out of touch with the modern gamer market,even their dumb announcement video of the Switch is clear evidence of that.

Blind fanboyism in Nintendo and a decently successful mobile product with the 3DS (though that's going to be the last successful handheld ever made), is the only thing keeping Nintendo alive today.

@emgesp: Impossible, it has no dudebro games. Dudebros wont buy it!

So instead of 3 games a year, we'll have 6. Seriously Nintendo's 1st party support are nothing like it used to be. Without that 3rd party support, the thing is not going to be appealing enough to own along side of another console, and without owning that other console, you miss out on 90% of the games in the market, including all of the big ones that are advertised constantly.

Nintendo's lack of 3rd party support is continuing to be their downfall on the consoles and their response is to double-down on the failed tablet gimmick and deliver a console that physically cannot handle your average Xbox One game.

Read this article about why 1st party support will be really great.

https://arcadegirl64.wordpress.com/page/2/