Nintendo = Quality over Quantity

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#151 Eddie-Murphy48
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[QUOTE="MonsieurX"]I guess they all play the same cause there's Mario in it?RyanShazam

Mario Kart, Super Mario Galaxy, and Mario Golf are all the same game.

 

Yes, All the Mains, the Karts, and the golfs involving Mario all oplay nearly identical, if you have to use the poor excuse f taking them side by side that's just sad.

 

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#152 GhettoBlastin92
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Lol trying to justify nintendo for not moving with the times.
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#153 lamprey263
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Mario Golf might be interesting, I liked Toadstool Tour on the GameCube, generally I kind of have a soft spot for the Mario sports titles, but I avoided them on the Wii, got the GameCube games instead because I didn't like the motion controls, hope the 3DS Tennis game hits $20 at some point and I'll be over that too.
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#154 StrongBlackVine
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those are still better games that what the ps3 and 360 offers.themagicbum9720

Is that why Wii U sucks?

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#155 super600  Moderator
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SMG and SMG2 are SM64 in space.:lol:

They are strucutred differently compared to that game.SMG and SMG2 are not as open as SM64 and it's usually impossible to get stars besides the hidden ones earlier than you are suspose in the levels that are in SMG and SMG2.

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#156 bbkkristian
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Fail troll thread?
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#157 StrongBlackVine
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Fail troll thread?bbkkristian

No is Nintendo that is failing. :cool:

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#158 bbkkristian
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[QUOTE="bbkkristian"]Fail troll thread?StrongBlackVine

No is Nintendo that is failing. :cool:

No use arguing with a heretic cow.
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#159 LittleMac19
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Alot of those games are quality though, two in particular from that list are the two top rated exclusives from this past gen as well. I'm completely fine with the series being milk as long as the main games of the series continue to be great.
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#160 StrongBlackVine
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[QUOTE="StrongBlackVine"]

[QUOTE="bbkkristian"]Fail troll thread?bbkkristian

No is Nintendo that is failing. :cool:

No use arguing with a heretic cow.

Poor sheep...Mario will arrive sometime this year.

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#161 bbkkristian
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[QUOTE="bbkkristian"][QUOTE="StrongBlackVine"]

No is Nintendo that is failing. :cool:

StrongBlackVine

No use arguing with a heretic cow.

Poor sheep...Mario will arrive sometime this year.

I care why?
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#162 super600  Moderator
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[QUOTE="bbkkristian"][QUOTE="StrongBlackVine"]

No is Nintendo that is failing. :cool:

StrongBlackVine

No use arguing with a heretic cow.

Poor sheep...Mario will arrive sometime this year.

Most sheep don't just buy mario games.

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#163 StrongBlackVine
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[QUOTE="StrongBlackVine"]

[QUOTE="bbkkristian"] No use arguing with a heretic cow. super600

Poor sheep...Mario will arrive sometime this year.

Most sheep don't just buy mario games.

LOL you get a dressed up HD remake of a Zelda gamee too.

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[QUOTE="super600"]

[QUOTE="StrongBlackVine"]

Poor sheep...Mario will arrive sometime this year.

StrongBlackVine

Most sheep don't just buy mario games.

LOL you get a dressed up HD remake of a Zelda gamee too.

Stop generalizing the sheep.

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#165 bbkkristian
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[QUOTE="super600"]

[QUOTE="StrongBlackVine"]

Poor sheep...Mario will arrive sometime this year.

StrongBlackVine

Most sheep don't just buy mario games.

LOL you get a dressed up HD remake of a Zelda gamee too.

As many HD rehashes the PS3 got, you shouldn't be talking right now.
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#166 VendettaRed07
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It isn't enough. Nintendo has NOT produced enough quality on the console space at all in the past 9 years. 

The handhelds have been fantastic, for sure. But its like their console games are becoming stripped down versions of older entries in great franchises over and over again. Pikmin 3 looks like the first Nintendo game in FOREVER that actually looks like a step forward from what came before it and not some streamlined linear BS. 

Sure, Mario Galaxy 1 and 2 were arguably the two best mario games .. well.. ever. But they were good DESPITE their streamlined linear nature, not because of it. I think if you asked many people "what would you like to see the next WiiU Mario game be like? A mario 64 successor, or another mario galaxy game" Most would choose a Mario 64 style game. Which I think says a lot. Nintendo just needs to expand its games .. Make BIGGER games, MOVE FORWARD FOR ****S SAKE.

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#167 SuddenlySudden
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[QUOTE="StrongBlackVine"]

[QUOTE="super600"]

Most sheep don't just buy mario games.

bbkkristian

LOL you get a dressed up HD remake of a Zelda gamee too.

As many HD rehashes the PS3 got, you shouldn't be talking right now.

LOL You call cheap 5$ or less PSN FAN REQUESTED HD updates for PS1 and maybe PS2 classics rehashes?
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#168 SuddenlySudden
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[QUOTE="StrongBlackVine"]

[QUOTE="super600"]

Most sheep don't just buy mario games.

super600

LOL you get a dressed up HD remake of a Zelda gamee too.

Stop generalizing the sheep.

Isn't the term "sheep" already a generalization in an of itself? It would be as if to say stop grouping clubs. Quite a bit of a paradox there, don't you think? If I sound like a British Smartass it's because I just finished watching a Russel Brand Stand Up and I have is voice quite rooted into my brain. And it is quiet awesome, I would admit.
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[QUOTE="bbkkristian"][QUOTE="StrongBlackVine"]

LOL you get a dressed up HD remake of a Zelda gamee too.

SuddenlySudden
As many HD rehashes the PS3 got, you shouldn't be talking right now.

LOL You call cheap 5$ or less PSN FAN REQUESTED HD updates for PS1 and maybe PS2 classics rehashes?

I think he's referring to HD collections, but they were filler titles and never marquee releases. The wind waker port is currently the only exclusive scheduled to release this fall on wii-u. The lack of game announcements is embarrassing....
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#170 SuddenlySudden
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[QUOTE="SuddenlySudden"][QUOTE="bbkkristian"] As many HD rehashes the PS3 got, you shouldn't be talking right now.MFDOOM1983
LOL You call cheap 5$ or less PSN FAN REQUESTED HD updates for PS1 and maybe PS2 classics rehashes?

I think he's referring to HD collections, but they were filler titles and never marquee releases. The wind waker port is currently the only exclusive scheduled to release this fall on wii-u. The lack of game announcements is embarrassing....

Yeah good point. Nothing wrong with polishing and rereleasing a title as requested by fans
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#171 rjdofu
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The company should be called Mariotendo

finalstar2007
What're you sayin finalcod?
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#172 ChubbyGuy40
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I think he's referring to HD collections, but they were filler titles and never marquee releases. The wind waker port is currently the only exclusive scheduled to release this fall on wii-u. The lack of game announcements is embarrassing....MFDOOM1983

It's clear you don't keep up with their announcements. If anything is a problem, it's their announcements of release dates, not the games.

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#173 Quad4Life
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Nintendo games only appeal to the nostalgic fanboys here, not the outside world.

Don't let these sheep fool you, many people will buy a Mario game. Play it for 1 hour and never play it again.

I'd love to see statistics on how many people actually beat SMG 1 or 2 that owned a Wii, it'd be hilarious :lol:

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#174 Quad4Life
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GD1551, I really have to ask, did someone at Nintendo do something bad to you or your family?  Not even joking, this is a serious question.

You seem like a smart enough guy, but then you attack Nintendo every time you get a chance.  That would be fine, except you always speak from misinformation and a lack of knowledge.  On the rare occasions that you do have facts in your arguments they are always skewed.  You will quickly brush off any positives, but focus on the most minute aspects of any negative.  Bias is one thing, but you are just over the top.

Usually this is just a sign of trolling, but you are far too heavily invested in your disdain for Nintendo for it to be something as simple as that.  Somebody at Nintendo did something terrible to you.  I know this may be a bit too personal, but if you don't mind me asking, what is it that they did?

sandbox3d

Nintendo deserves the hate, the sold out and they SUCK.

It's finally biting them in the *** so I'm happy about that.

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#175 ConanTheStoner
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Nintendo games only appeal to the nostalgic fanboys here, not the outside world.

Don't let these sheep fool you, many people will buy a Mario game. Play it for 1 hour and never play it again.

I'd love to see statistics on how many people actually beat SMG 1 or 2 that owned a Wii, it'd be hilarious :lol:

Quad4Life

... people always think butthurt is the end game.  The final stage...  Nobody sticks around to see the latter phase, Gluteal Oblivion.  This is when the victim seeks refuge in delusion as a means to cope with the constant flames ceaselessly firing off in his/her anus.  

In the far regions of the rectal realm there are pains beyond comprehension.  Like Habanero paste on hemorrhoids, such is the fate of Quad4Life.

Do not show this poor man anger for his state of delusion.  Show him pity.

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[QUOTE="Quad4Life"]

Nintendo games only appeal to the nostalgic fanboys here, not the outside world.

Don't let these sheep fool you, many people will buy a Mario game. Play it for 1 hour and never play it again.

I'd love to see statistics on how many people actually beat SMG 1 or 2 that owned a Wii, it'd be hilarious :lol:

ConanTheStoner

... people always think butthurt is the end game.  The final stage...  Nobody sticks around to see the latter phase, Gluteal Oblivion.  This is when the victim seeks refuge in delusion as a means to cope with the constant flames ceaselessly firing off in his/her anus.  

In the far regions of the rectal realm there are pains beyond comprehension.  Like Habanero paste on hemorrhoids, such is the fate of Quad4Life.

Do not show this poor man anger for his state of delusion.  Show him pity.

:lol:

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#177 jhcho2
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Lots of quality games listed there.

RyanShazam

But more than half those games have the name 'Mario' on it. Quality must come with variety too you know....

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#178 sandbox3d
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[QUOTE="RyanShazam"]

Lots of quality games listed there.

jhcho2

But more than half those games have the name 'Mario' on it. Quality must come with variety too you know....

Plenty of variety in that list actually.  Unless a games name means more to you than the gameplay itself.

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#179 sandbox3d
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[QUOTE="Quad4Life"]

Nintendo games only appeal to the nostalgic fanboys here, not the outside world.

Don't let these sheep fool you, many people will buy a Mario game. Play it for 1 hour and never play it again.

I'd love to see statistics on how many people actually beat SMG 1 or 2 that owned a Wii, it'd be hilarious :lol:

ConanTheStoner

... people always think butthurt is the end game.  The final stage...  Nobody sticks around to see the latter phase, Gluteal Oblivion.  This is when the victim seeks refuge in delusion as a means to cope with the constant flames ceaselessly firing off in his/her anus.  

In the far regions of the rectal realm there are pains beyond comprehension.  Like Habanero paste on hemorrhoids, such is the fate of Quad4Life.

Do not show this poor man anger for his state of delusion.  Show him pity.

lol

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#180 jhcho2
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[QUOTE="jhcho2"]

[QUOTE="RyanShazam"]

Lots of quality games listed there.

sandbox3d

But more than half those games have the name 'Mario' on it. Quality must come with variety too you know....

Plenty of variety in that list actually.  Unless a games name means more to you than the gameplay itself.

That's sheep argument right there. If i'm simply not into platformers, more half that list doesn't apply to me. Your definition of variety is one version of a platformer vs another version of a platformer. They're still platformers.

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#181 Mario1331
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i dont get this thread

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#182 sandbox3d
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[QUOTE="sandbox3d"]

[QUOTE="jhcho2"]

But more than half those games have the name 'Mario' on it. Quality must come with variety too you know....

jhcho2

Plenty of variety in that list actually.  Unless a games name means more to you than the gameplay itself.

That's sheep argument right there. If i'm simply not into platformers, more half that list doesn't apply to me. Your definition of variety is one version of a platformer vs another version of a platformer. They're still platformers.

Uhh, buddy.  I hate to break it to you, but there can be plenty of variety from one platformer to the next.

Thing is though.  There are 45 games in that list.  Only 9 of which are platformers.  4 of them 3d platformers.  The rest 2d.  The only ones that are dangerously samey are the NSMB titles.

This is not a sheep argument.  This is me being logical and pointing out a fact.

The list is full of variety.  Dont like it?  Cool.

You're still wrong.

Edit: And btw.  What you're into has no bearing on the variety or lack there of in that list.  This has nothing to do with your personal opinion.

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#184 FragTycoon
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Nintendo = Quantity X Low Quality

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#185 sandbox3d
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Nintendo = Quantity X Low Quality

FragTycoon

Yeah, they only put out some of the highest rated games every gen consistently.  As well as dozens of other respectable scoring games.

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#186 razgriz_101
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41 mario games got released since the start of last gen (last gen titles discounting wii u), and people are moaning that AC and CoD are being milked :P

 

im sorry but ninty need to try something new regardless of the sheeps thoughts on this.Let mario go on hiatus for a couple years.

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#187 SecretPolice
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Oh this argument never gets old, well, in truth, yes it does - in most cases, quality is in the eye of the beholder:P

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[QUOTE="MFDOOM1983"]I think he's referring to HD collections, but they were filler titles and never marquee releases. The wind waker port is currently the only exclusive scheduled to release this fall on wii-u. The lack of game announcements is embarrassing....ChubbyGuy40

It's clear you don't keep up with their announcements. If anything is a problem, it's their announcements of release dates, not the games.

I checked the schedule to make sure before I commented but if you insist that I missed something please do share.
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#189 sandbox3d
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41 mario games got released since the start of last gen (last gen titles discounting wii u), and people are moaning that AC and CoD are being milked :P

 

im sorry but ninty need to try something new regardless of the sheeps thoughts on this.Let mario go on hiatus for a couple years.

razgriz_101

I really don't understand why so many people on this board despise the fact that Mario is such a popular character.

Nintendo has this huge variation of games and series.  They all play differently.  Most of them are of at least a decent quality.  Some of them are good, even great!

The quality is there, but Nintendo also has brand power and Mario is the face of that.  Why wouldn't you use that to help boost sales of your games?

If Sony or MS had a character even half as popular as Mario you would see them doing the same thing.  Hell, Sony already tried and failed on quite a few occasions because they believed they had iconic characters.

Nintendo has something that these other guys don't and they use it to their advantage.  This is a dedicated gaming company going up against two behemoths.  They're doing exactly what they should be doing.

sandbox3d

Really guys, why is this so hard to understand?

Its just a name.  If 41 actual Mario games came out then yes, holy sh*t, they would need to stop.  But that is not the case.

These are all games that for the most part play very differently.  Most of which are in completely different genres.  Its just a brand.

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#190 AznbkdX
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I see quality myself.

If I remember correctly quality isn't judged based on how many games were put out from the same franchise.

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#191 clone01
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You didn't mention Zachary and wiki. Metro is prime, pikmi, no more heroes, mad world, twilight princess, etc etc. fail troll is fail.
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#192 jhcho2
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[QUOTE="jhcho2"]

[QUOTE="sandbox3d"]

Plenty of variety in that list actually.  Unless a games name means more to you than the gameplay itself.

sandbox3d

That's sheep argument right there. If i'm simply not into platformers, more half that list doesn't apply to me. Your definition of variety is one version of a platformer vs another version of a platformer. They're still platformers.

Uhh, buddy.  I hate to break it to you, but there can be plenty of variety from one platformer to the next.

Thing is though.  There are 45 games in that list.  Only 9 of which are platformers.  4 of them 3d platformers.  The rest 2d.  The only ones that are dangerously samey are the NSMB titles.

This is not a sheep argument.  This is me being logical and pointing out a fact.

The list is full of variety.  Dont like it?  Cool.

You're still wrong.

Edit: And btw.  What you're into has no bearing on the variety or lack there of in that list.  This has nothing to do with your personal opinion.

Don't tell me you have not heard of gamers who completely avoid one genre completely. Like rpgs for example. There are jrpgs, wrpgs, action rpgs, MMO rpgs etc. etc. You can even break the wrpg genre down further into a dungeon's & dragons rpg as well. All these different sub-genres of rpgs have variety and play differently from one another. Despite that, there ARE gamers who just say that they don't play rpg games because say.....it's too time consuming.

The same applies to any other genre. The debate isn't about whether one type of platformer varies in gameplay from another type of platformer. The question is, IF i'm not into platformers, then what else does it have to offer?

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#193 razgriz_101
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[QUOTE="razgriz_101"]

41 mario games got released since the start of last gen (last gen titles discounting wii u), and people are moaning that AC and CoD are being milked :P

 

im sorry but ninty need to try something new regardless of the sheeps thoughts on this.Let mario go on hiatus for a couple years.

sandbox3d

I really don't understand why so many people on this board despise the fact that Mario is such a popular character.

Nintendo has this huge variation of games and series.  They all play differently.  Most of them are of at least a decent quality.  Some of them are good, even great!

The quality is there, but Nintendo also has brand power and Mario is the face of that.  Why wouldn't you use that to help boost sales of your games?

If Sony or MS had a character even half as popular as Mario you would see them doing the same thing.  Hell, Sony already tried and failed on quite a few occasions because they believed they had iconic characters.

Nintendo has something that these other guys don't and they use it to their advantage.  This is a dedicated gaming company going up against two behemoths.  They're doing exactly what they should be doing.

sandbox3d

Really guys, why is this so hard to understand?

Its just a name.  If 41 actual Mario games came out then yes, holy sh*t, they would need to stop.  But that is not the case.

These are all games that for the most part play very differently.  Most of which are in completely different genres.  Its just a brand.

its still basically raping the IP, on a Star Wars level.

Because its different genre's nintendo do not deserve a free pass for relying on mario to sell games all the time.

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#194 p3anut
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You just mad because Mario is the mascot of gaming. Mario is an icon that will live forever. There's nothing wrong with having him on different genres.

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#195 razgriz_101
Member since 2007 • 16875 Posts

You just mad because Mario is the mascot of gaming. Mario is an icon that will live forever. There's nothing wrong with having him on different genres.

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theres a difference between being an icon, and a company overusing an IP lets be sane here.
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#196 p3anut
Member since 2005 • 6636 Posts

[QUOTE="p3anut"]

You just mad because Mario is the mascot of gaming. Mario is an icon that will live forever. There's nothing wrong with having him on different genres.

razgriz_101

theres a difference between being an icon, and a company overusing an IP lets be sane here.

I think you still fail to see the point. If you look at other icons like Mickey, he is also being used a lot. Like Mario he's big and well known and it's just business.

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#197 silversix_
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Nintendo = none existent quantity + forgot what quality is since N64.
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#198 razgriz_101
Member since 2007 • 16875 Posts

[QUOTE="razgriz_101"][QUOTE="p3anut"]

You just mad because Mario is the mascot of gaming. Mario is an icon that will live forever. There's nothing wrong with having him on different genres.

p3anut

theres a difference between being an icon, and a company overusing an IP lets be sane here.

I think you still fail to see the point. If you look at other icons like Mickey, he is also being used a lot. Like Mario he's big and well known and it's just business.

mickeys spread across multiple media formats..Mario is not 41 games is appalling and Mickey is nowhere near that in the same amount of time afaik sure he's got a lot of fingers in one pie. Essentially your sweeping this under the carpet, would you argue that it isnt overuse of the IP if there was 41 mickey films made in the space of say 5 years despite being diffrent genres.No you probably wouldnt. Ninty needs to lay off the mario juice for a while or play a big risk in people becoming fed up of mario being basically all ninty's known for.
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#199 nintendoboy16
Member since 2007 • 42203 Posts

[QUOTE="p3anut"]

[QUOTE="razgriz_101"] theres a difference between being an icon, and a company overusing an IP lets be sane here.razgriz_101

I think you still fail to see the point. If you look at other icons like Mickey, he is also being used a lot. Like Mario he's big and well known and it's just business.

mickeys spread across multiple media formats..Mario is not 41 games is appalling and Mickey is nowhere near that in the same amount of time afaik sure he's got a lot of fingers in one pie. Essentially your sweeping this under the carpet, would you argue that it isnt overuse of the IP if there was 41 mickey films made in the space of say 5 years despite being diffrent genres.No you probably wouldnt. Ninty needs to lay off the mario juice for a while or play a big risk in people becoming fed up of mario being basically all ninty's known for.

Mario is the main mascot of Nintendo. What do you expect? No different than people knowing SEGA for Sonic, who's downfall is one of the major reasons that company is seen as a joke, later followed by the Bayonetta 2 controversy.

Granted for several sheep, it's really annoying that Mario takes all the attention even when Nintendo does something completely new, but still...

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#200 HalcyonScarlet
Member since 2011 • 13838 Posts

Nintendo ruin Mario with their over use.

Mario and Zelda would have been like special events if they didn't milk them. That's how they should be.