Nintendo: Wii U To Be Relaunched E3 2012, New Pokemon Game, New Online Strategy

Wii U is gonna be generation behind again when PS4 and nextbox launch in 2014-2015

This time casuals won't buy it because it offers nothing innovate

Zurrur

Pass me that crystal ball, homie, i wanna check what football team to bet on next week.

I hope at least it's that, yes... Bare bones or not, that's just enough to suffice when you need to set up games with friends. Voice chat, other functions can be reserved for the full app and I'm ok with that. The only thing I'm thinking of is, how will this launch? Since you have to download this free app, and it's not coming in the firmware update, that's what bothers me. Not everyone will have this built into their systems unless they download the application. This limits it already. It should just be built into the system via firmware update. yoshi_64

Now they need to do what they're best at - show good games. New Star Fox, F-Zero, Wave Race, Metroid and of course Mario and Zelda should be a given. And possibly a new high quality IP. Also, they need good 3rd party support (mostly form the Japanese devs - I don't care about Western devs that much) and a cheap price point for the new console.

If nintendo wants to sell me on the wii u then they need to make it affordable and include a game thats basically a sequel to super mario world but with more levels and better graphics.

z4twenny

I'd be delighted if Nintendo were hurt enought to "get with the times"... but not hurt enought to stop making games :Plocopatho

Get on with the times in what way?

Tech, yeah, they seem a bit behind the times in that, Third Party Policies, again, yeah. Online... well yeah. But they are definately improving that, in the next month they will have a complete revamp of their online with players being able to host communities with custom rules, leaderboards, ect.

Software design? Hell no!

I am really excited for the Demos that are coming to the 3DS :D

Okay here is a few tips Nintendo on how to make the Wii U's launch successful:

• Major first party titles are required (Pikmin 3 please)
• Launch it with all features avialable that are shown off at E3
• Bundles
• A not over the top price (300 dollars sounds about right)
• The Wii U needs an online store at launch, not 2 months or so after launch
• Netflix needs to be on it at launch (and by that I mean avialable in the online store at launch)
• Last but not least, a good line up of titles for the launch window and possible year (though it'll be impossible for the Wii U to avoid shovelware)
• Oh wait one more, if possible (but really needed) change the physical look of the console. It looks too much like the Wii.

Here is one last big thing...

Do not show off any feature that will not be avialable at launch

[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="yoshi_64"]I hope at least it's that, yes... Bare bones or not, that's just enough to suffice when you need to set up games with friends. Voice chat, other functions can be reserved for the full app and I'm ok with that. The only thing I'm thinking of is, how will this launch? Since you have to download this free app, and it's not coming in the firmware update, that's what bothers me. Not everyone will have this built into their systems unless they download the application. This limits it already. It should just be built into the system via firmware update. yoshi_64

What I want from Wii U

• Show an actual line-up instead of current gen multiplats everyone have played. It's nice to see a multiplat just to show exactly how much more powerful Wii U will be but that shouldn't be the focus.
• Have some third-party devs on-stage to vocally show support or something...
• Successful online model
• Rename the system. It sounds like some people are thinking the Wii U is just a better Wii, like 3DS to DS.
• Confirm that online eStore I heard rumors about of GC titles going to be available for purchase.
• BC with Wii
• Hopefully, have some sort of transfer system where people can grab the games they bought from VC on Wii and Miis to be playable on Wii U.
• At least have a DVD player for once... lol

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[QUOTE="charizard1605"] So you think and say the 3DS is a failure period?charizard1605

Not yet by I'm predicting it will be. I believe that Vita and 3DS will be the last of the handhelds.

I would LOL so hard if Sony or Microsoft officially announced their next gen consoles at E3,

and completely steal Nintendo's thunder

Nintendo could well be heading the way of Sega if the Wii-U fails.XenoNinja

Yeah. And I don't think that most casuals that bought the Wii are going to gobble up the Wii U at all, because most of them are happy with the Wii & it's games.

I wouldn't mind some Pokemon for my 3DS. I'm semi interested in the Wii U, I'll maybe grab one after it's been out for a year.

Wii and the 3DS will both go the way of the Gamecube.Deniable_Ops

The 3DS, possibly (though I doubt it), and the Wii, No. Not at all. The Wii outsold the gamecube a looong time ago.

Well it's good on Nintendo's part because the Wii U should have a build in hard drive and not a SD card.

I love how everyone is predicting the Wii U is going to fail already. Boy, do we have a long year.

I'm glad Nintendo is adressing their issues and learning from the mistakes of the 3DS launch. It makes me a lot more confident in them. And I'm hoping that Pokemon game is not Pokepark 2 in english.

I'm hoping that Pokemon game is not Pokepark 2 in english.

Big_Pecks

[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="argetlam00"]

Not yet by I'm predicting it will be. I believe that Vita and 3DS will be the last of the handhelds.

tomarlyn

Sony is making a big mistake if they think they can just add a phone to the ps vita and put it on the market. Pricing will be a huge issue for them. Look at the games that have people really interested in the system. Can they really release them for 5 dollars a pop? No? Well then they'll need to release games like Angry Birds or Infinity Blade--which do well on iOS but are routinely derided in the gamer community (you know, the audience that might actually buy a Playstation phone). Those that want to play quality games on the go would have to migrate back to Ninty. Those that are already invested in iOS or android probably on't switch.

Also the 99 cent market isn't the land of milk and honey everyone makes it out to be.

The extremely high revenues reported by a small number of developer skew the arithmetic mean significantly. If you looked at that as an average, it would be easy to say "the average game developer has made about $165,000″.

What is also telling is that if you were in the 75th percentile, you would have made about $30,000 on the App Store. This means that only 25% of developers have made more than $30,000 lifetime total revenue selling games on the App Store. Conversely, we can see that 25% of developers have made less than $200.

http://www.streamingcolour.com/blog/2011/09/28/results-ios-game-revenue-survey/

Even the "extremely high" revenues posted by big sellers still only gross a few million. I doubt a games division can survive on that revenue.

better not be grey , nintendo...ur hanging on by a thread.campzor

sony is going to post a loss too are they hangin from a thread?

[QUOTE="campzor"]better not be grey , nintendo...ur hanging on by a thread.Mario1331

sony is going to post a loss too are they hangin from a thread?

They dont seem to quite grasp modern reality, thats their problem....

If friend codes exist in wiiu(NEW NAME PLEASE) the system will prove itself to have nintendo still thinking its 2003..

[QUOTE="campzor"]better not be grey , nintendo...ur hanging on by a thread.Mario1331

sony is going to post a loss too are they hangin from a thread?

New Pokemon game in Spring?

Don't see how it could be anything but Grey.

Hmmm, I wonder how much sales would pick up if Grey released exclusively on the 3DS

[QUOTE="Mario1331"]

[QUOTE="campzor"]better not be grey , nintendo...ur hanging on by a thread.campzor

sony is going to post a loss too are they hangin from a thread?

they cant please everybody man, even if you dont like what they end up doin one sale wouldnt matter to them that much, that goes for all of us actually

[QUOTE="Mario1331"]

[QUOTE="campzor"]better not be grey , nintendo...ur hanging on by a thread.charizard1605

sony is going to post a loss too are they hangin from a thread?

thats inevitable grey is coming out its tradition

[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="Mario1331"]

sony is going to post a loss too are they hangin from a thread?

Mario1331

thats inevitable grey is coming out its tradition

[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="argetlam00"]

Not yet by I'm predicting it will be. I believe that Vita and 3DS will be the last of the handhelds.

tomarlyn

I do think, in the future, gaming handhelds should adopt standardized OSs like Android. That way, Sony can have all of the smartphone games in *addition* to premium retail-level software on top of that. People would no longer have to say, "should I buy so-and-so phone to play Game Dev Story?" because games like Game Dev Story would automatically be in their gaming handheld's library.

[QUOTE="tomarlyn"][QUOTE="charizard1605"] I say it will go on to sell 60-70 million, and be a great success. It will also not be the last handheld, although I suppose the next Nintendo handheld might have more social and connectivity features (like the 3DS has more of those than the DS) just to keep it competitive against other devices.SakusEnvoy

I do think, in the future, gaming handhelds should adopt standardized OSs like Android. That way, Sony can have all of the smartphone games in *addition* to premium retail-level software on top of that.

[QUOTE="SakusEnvoy"]

[QUOTE="tomarlyn"] I think they will be the last of the true handhelds, in 5 years they will have phone functionality IMO. Sony just completely bought out Ericsson you know, hint hint.charizard1605

I do think, in the future, gaming handhelds should adopt standardized OSs like Android. That way, Sony can have all of the smartphone games in *addition* to premium retail-level software on top of that.

Literally, anyone can take Android and put it in whatever they want to, no licensing fees involved. They can also skin it and modify the interface significantly; when you look at devices like the Kindle Fire, Amazon put in a unique interface that's totally unlike the normal Android interface. I'm sure Nintendo or Sony would do the same.

The problem isn't hardware, either, since devices like the Vita and iPad 2 share very similar hardware architectures. The only possible reason I can think of not to do it, but unfortunately this is a big big reason not to do it and probably why Sony opted not to, is Android is infamous right now for high levels of piracy.

[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="SakusEnvoy"] Even if Sony does start developing a specialized gaming smartphone, they'd probably continue to release a non-smartphone standalone version as well. Much the same way the iPhone has the non-smartphone iPod Touch as its counterpart.

I do think, in the future, gaming handhelds should adopt standardized OSs like Android. That way, Sony can have all of the smartphone games in *addition* to premium retail-level software on top of that.

SakusEnvoy

Literally, anyone can take Android and put it in whatever they want to, no licensing fees involved. They can also skin it and modify the interface significantly; when you look at devices like the Kindle Fire, Amazon put in a unique interface that's totally unlike the normal Android interface. I'm sure Nintendo or Sony would do the same.

The problem isn't hardware, either, since devices like the Vita and iPad 2 share very similar hardware architectures. The only possible reason I can think of not to do it, but unfortunately this is a big big reason not to do it and probably why Sony opted not to, is Android is infamous right now for high levels of piracy.

They dont seem to quite grasp modern reality, thats their problem....

If friend codes exist in wiiu(NEW NAME PLEASE) the system will prove itself to have nintendo still thinking its 2003..

fueled-system

Actually its worse as I recall

Nintendo removing any WiiU Network, and leaving it to each publisher to do online by themselves(like PS2)

[QUOTE="fueled-system"]

They dont seem to quite grasp modern reality, thats their problem....

If friend codes exist in wiiu(NEW NAME PLEASE) the system will prove itself to have nintendo still thinking its 2003..

dercoo

Actually its worse as I recall

Nintendo removing any WiiU Network, and leaving it to each publisher to do online by themselves(like PS2)

WE HAVE NO IDEA WHAT NINTENDO'S ONLINE PLANS FOR THE WII U ARE.

Commenting on them at this point is entirely futile.

^ they've said several times that they'll leave it to the individual devs... or in other words they have no plan at this time.

^ they've said several times that they'll leave it to the individual devs... or in other words they have no plan at this time.

stizz-

[QUOTE="SakusEnvoy"]Nintendo could actually use Android too. It would actually be much cheaper (literally, free) for them than going through the trouble they do right now making their own OS. Even if Google is a big partner of Sony's, Android itself is free and open source.

Literally, anyone can take Android and put it in whatever they want to, no licensing fees involved. They can also skin it and modify the interface significantly; when you look at devices like the Kindle Fire, Amazon put in a unique interface that's totally unlike the normal Android interface. I'm sure Nintendo or Sony would do the same.

The problem isn't hardware, either, since devices like the Vita and iPad 2 share very similar hardware architectures. The only possible reason I can think of not to do it, but unfortunately this is a big big reason not to do it and probably why Sony opted not to, is Android is infamous right now for high levels of piracy.

charizard1605

I actually don't think Nintendo will ever make a smartphone, anyhow. Especially not as long as they stick to the two-screen DS clamshell design. That's pretty much impossible to adapt into a smartphone. I also agree - I don't think Nintendo has any interest in designing smartphones, either.

But, they still really should find a way to pick up all the games that smartphones are getting. If not through Android, through some special licensing agreement with the Google Market. And we should get those games *at their iOS/Android prices*! DSiWare and 3DSWare are terrible and not getting any better. Even as they promise things will get better, Nintendo really seems clueless on what to do about it. It's hardly a surprise that their only major downloadable game has moved over to iOS.

^ all it talks about is a shop (which they already have). What about online play? Are they killing FC finally? Chat options? Messaging? Invites? These are things people are wondering about.

Nintendo could well be heading the way of Sega if the Wii-U fails.XenoNinja

[QUOTE="XenoNinja"]Nintendo could well be heading the way of Sega if the Wii-U fails.nintendoboy16

Why would that be for the best again?

[QUOTE="nintendoboy16"][QUOTE="XenoNinja"]Nintendo could well be heading the way of Sega if the Wii-U fails.GD1551

Why would that be for the best again?

[QUOTE="GD1551"]

[QUOTE="nintendoboy16"] If they do, they would leave gaming with their IP's (and that would be for the best).campzor

Why would that be for the best again?

thats like saying uncharted would still be the same on xbox

thats like saying uncharted would still be the same on xbox

Mario1331

And it won't be because???

cause apparently only nintendo has the power to bring their "MAGIC" to their franchises and anyone else would just destroy it :roll:campzor

It's not even that, he said nintendo will leave gaming and take their IPs with them is for the best. Why can't nintendo do like sega and just develop their games and put them on the xbox and ps?

[QUOTE="Mario1331"]

thats like saying uncharted would still be the same on xbox

GD1551

And it won't be because???

its a sony ip thats made for SONYs CONSOLES

[QUOTE="campzor"]

cause apparently only nintendo has the power to bring their "MAGIC" to their franchises and anyone else would just destroy it :roll:GD1551

It's not even that, he said nintendo will leave gaming and take their IPs with them is for the best. Why can't nintendo do like sega and just develop their games and put them on the xbox and ps?

because they dont want too not everybody has to become third party they do have the choice to leave or not

[QUOTE="campzor"]

cause apparently only nintendo has the power to bring their "MAGIC" to their franchises and anyone else would just destroy it :roll:GD1551

It's not even that, he said nintendo will leave gaming and take their IPs with them is for the best. Why can't nintendo do like sega and just develop their games and put them on the xbox and ps?

Pretty sure it was said in an interview regarding if Nintendo ever went third-party.

[QUOTE="GD1551"]

[QUOTE="Mario1331"]

thats like saying uncharted would still be the same on xbox

Mario1331

And it won't be because???

its a sony ip thats made for SONYs CONSOLES

LMAO so that somehow makes it not able to be done on microsoft's console? What sort of magic does sony's console have?