Nintendo: Wii U To Be Relaunched E3 2012, New Pokemon Game, New Online Strategy

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[QUOTE="campzor"]

cause apparently only nintendo has the power to bring their "MAGIC" to their franchises and anyone else would just destroy it :roll:ChubbyGuy40

It's not even that, he said nintendo will leave gaming and take their IPs with them is for the best. Why can't nintendo do like sega and just develop their games and put them on the xbox and ps?

Pretty sure it was said in an interview regarding if Nintendo ever went third-party.

I'm more specifically addressing the part where he said " that would be for the best".

to me the Wii U doesn't have much hype, I hope once it's shown off again it will gain some momention.

LMAO so that somehow makes it not able to be done on microsoft's console? What sort of magic does sony's console have?

GD1551

I'll give an example of what happens when you switch platforms

Banjo-Kazooie (yes I know its situation :P )

I'm more specifically addressing the part where he said " that would be for the best".

GD1551

Lets imagine they went exactly the way of Sega. It took them what, 7 years?, until we finally got a good Sonic game (Colors.) Not to mention the majority of what they published was crap and the only good thing (imo) they published was Creative Assembly stuff.

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LMAO so that somehow makes it not able to be done on microsoft's console? What sort of magic does sony's console have?

ChubbyGuy40

I'll give an example of what happens when you switch platforms

Banjo-Kazooie (yes I know its situation :P )

I'm more specifically addressing the part where he said " that would be for the best".

GD1551

Lets imagine they went exactly the way of Sega. It took them what, 7 years?, until we finally got a good Sonic game (Colors.) Not to mention the majority of what they published was crap and the only good thing (imo) they published was Creative Assembly stuff.

So nintendo will suddenly lose all their talent if they go 3rd party?

So nintendo will suddenly lose all their talent if they go 3rd party?

GD1551

It's a possibility. Never know what would happen. Pretty sure no one expected it with Sega's core franchise.

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[QUOTE="nintendoboy16"] If they do, they would leave gaming with their IP's (and that would be for the best).campzor

Why would that be for the best again?

[QUOTE="nintendoboy16"][QUOTE="XenoNinja"]Nintendo could well be heading the way of Sega if the Wii-U fails.GD1551

Why would that be for the best again?

[QUOTE="GD1551"]

So nintendo will suddenly lose all their talent if they go 3rd party?

ChubbyGuy40

It's a possibility. Never know what would happen. Pretty sure no one expected it with Sega's core franchise.

Didn't Sega lose a lot of employees when they went 3rd party, though? I guess it could be possible with Ninty, but so long as they held on their talent I don't see why they would suddenly go bad. The market is fine how it is, though. I don't think it would be a good thing to see a hardware manufactuer to go away.

[QUOTE="locopatho"]I'd be delighted if Nintendo were hurt enought to "get with the times"... but not hurt enought to stop making games :PMaroxad

Get on with the times in what way?

Tech, yeah, they seem a bit behind the times in that, Third Party Policies, again, yeah. Online... well yeah. But they are definately improving that, in the next month they will have a complete revamp of their online with players being able to host communities with custom rules, leaderboards, ect.

Software design? Hell no!

[QUOTE="XenoNinja"]Nintendo could well be heading the way of Sega if the Wii-U fails.nintendoboy16

It's a little too early for a Grey version, if one comes out at all. I'll bet on the new games being R/S remakes.

[QUOTE="nintendoboy16"][QUOTE="XenoNinja"]Nintendo could well be heading the way of Sega if the Wii-U fails.locopatho

[QUOTE="Maroxad"]

[QUOTE="locopatho"]I'd be delighted if Nintendo were hurt enought to "get with the times"... but not hurt enought to stop making games :Plocopatho

Get on with the times in what way?

Tech, yeah, they seem a bit behind the times in that, Third Party Policies, again, yeah. Online... well yeah. But they are definately improving that, in the next month they will have a complete revamp of their online with players being able to host communities with custom rules, leaderboards, ect.

Software design? Hell no!

It sounds like they really are learning from the 3ds mistake, and differentiating the product from its predessecor.

[QUOTE="locopatho"][QUOTE="Maroxad"]

Get on with the times in what way?

Tech, yeah, they seem a bit behind the times in that, Third Party Policies, again, yeah. Online... well yeah. But they are definately improving that, in the next month they will have a complete revamp of their online with players being able to host communities with custom rules, leaderboards, ect.

Software design? Hell no!

Shinobishyguy

[QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"][QUOTE="locopatho"] Yup you hit the nail on the head. I'm well happy with their gameplay, I just would like all their tech, graphics, sound, online, dlc, achievemnets, etc, to catch up with the rest of gaming. Fire Emblem for example is one of my favourite Ninty series, and all we got on Wii was indistinguishable from the GC one. Compare that to what Sega did for Valkyria Chronicles over on PS3 :Olocopatho

and DA probably has to be one of the worst offenders of what I'm talking about, especially when the game had those NPC's going "Nope! you can't go on this quest unless if you download the DLC"

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What does the 3DS give me? I hate to say it, but there isn't ONE game I want on the 3DS except Mario 3D Land. Not one. Maybe Kid Icarus, but that would be more of a purchase not because I want it, but because that's the only other title that, at least, mildly interests me. I'll admit, I'm excited for Level 5's offerings, and I think I could get into Monster Hunter, but all those titles seem far off and haven't been really shown.

ChubbyGuy40

No Resident Evil Revelations, Paper Mario, Mario Tennis, Animal Crossing, Luigi's Mansion 2, Wright vs Layton, Layon: Mask of Miracles, MH3G or MH4, Mario Kart 7, Shinobi, Sonic Generations (I think it'll be different enough from the PC/console version,) Kingdom Hearts 3D, Heroes of Ruin, Ninja Gaiden, Super Smash Bros, Lego City Stories, Bravely Default, Dragon Quest, Fire Emblem, RollerCoaster Tycoon, Tekken 3D, MGS: SE 3D, Nano Assault, or Ace Combat?

You saved me some copy and pasting, 3ds line up is looking sweet.

Dragon Age was a complete game. Yet also gave the option of downloading extra quests and missions if you wanted more. Which I did :)

locopatho

Oh my. Dragon Age Origins was not a complete game. Dragon Age Origins is one of the worst offenders of DLC abuse, remember the whole controversy regaring the in game advertising of day 1 DLC?Not to mention the quality of the DLC as well was pretty... low.

Nintendo promised though that while they do support DLC now, they wont add it themselves, which I am very pleased about. Although, I wouldnt complain if they added free DLC.

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[QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"]you want nintendo games with DLC? Seriously? They're like one of the few publishers that ships complete games these days. As for sound, they've already caught up with games like Galaxy1/2, SSBB, and skyward swordShinobishyguy

and DA probably has to be one of the worst offenders of what I'm talking about, especially when the game had those NPC's going "Nope! you can't go on this quest unless if you download the DLC"

[QUOTE="locopatho"]

Dragon Age was a complete game. Yet also gave the option of downloading extra quests and missions if you wanted more. Which I did :)

Maroxad

Oh my. Dragon Age Origins was not a complete game. Dragon Age Origins is one of the worst offenders of DLC abuse, remember the whole controversy regaring the in game advertising of day 1 DLC?Not to mention the quality of the DLC as well was pretty... low.

Nintendo promised though that while they do support DLC now, they wont add it themselves, which I am very pleased about. Although, I wouldnt complain if they added free DLC.

[QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"]

[QUOTE="locopatho"] Dragon Age was a complete game. Yet also gave the option of downloading extra quests and missions if you wanted more. Which I did :)

locopatho

and DA probably has to be one of the worst offenders of what I'm talking about, especially when the game had those NPC's going "Nope! you can't go on this quest unless if you download the DLC"

And I love how you automatically jump to making generalizations about nintendo fans like you always do. Really says alot

[QUOTE="locopatho"][QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"]DLC when done right is good, the problem is it's rarely ever done right. Most of the time it's little hour-long quests that should've been on the disc

and DA probably has to be one of the worst offenders of what I'm talking about, especially when the game had those NPC's going "Nope! you can't go on this quest unless if you download the DLC"

Shinobishyguy

And I love how you automatically jump to making generalizations about nintendo fans like you always do. Really says alot

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[QUOTE="locopatho"] Why do Ninty fans always assume the worst? If I ask for voice acting, they assume it'll Zelda cdi quality. If I ask for online, they assume local multi will be cut. If I ask for DLC, they assume it'll be "5 euro for a new outfit" rather then an epic quest. When I ask for HD graphics, they assume gameplay will suffer for it. I am just so sick of everyone trying to make excuses and assumptions for genuine failings, why not demand the best from your favourite games dev rather then assuming the worst EVERY. SINGLE. TIME :? That NPC was lame, true. But again, you hone in like a freaking laser on the one bad aspect of the DLC. As opposed to, say, the interesting back story's of your party members which you could download if interested. Many did, many others didn't. Choices people! And what about Awakening? Brilliant stuff. Or Shivering Isles for Oblivion? Of course when I say I want DLC I mean the good kind. locopatho

And I love how you automatically jump to making generalizations about nintendo fans like you always do. Really says alot

Hell look a From software with Dark souls. No DLC but it doesn't need it becasue it's already packed to the brim with content.

Yet Nintendo goes by this philosophy and we have you whining and moaning about how you want them to "get with the times"

Apparently GTAV is going to be a Wii U timed exclusive to help promote it?

Apparently GTAV is going to be a Wii U timed exclusive to help promote it?

GD1551

[QUOTE="GD1551"]

Apparently GTAV is going to be a Wii U timed exclusive to help promote it?

charizard1605

[QUOTE="Maroxad"]

[QUOTE="locopatho"]

Dragon Age was a complete game. Yet also gave the option of downloading extra quests and missions if you wanted more. Which I did :)

locopatho

Oh my. Dragon Age Origins was not a complete game. Dragon Age Origins is one of the worst offenders of DLC abuse, remember the whole controversy regaring the in game advertising of day 1 DLC?Not to mention the quality of the DLC as well was pretty... low.

Nintendo promised though that while they do support DLC now, they wont add it themselves, which I am very pleased about. Although, I wouldnt complain if they added free DLC.

The fact that content was stripped from the game and sold as DLC on day 1, heck the content was even advertised ingame. This link is NSFW.

Oh boy, I could mention a long list of why Dragon Age Origins was a terrible game, why it is a cesspool of poor design choices, lazy design and awful writing. But I dont want to derail this topic.

P.S: Zelda shouldnt have voice acting because it just doesnt fit its design. It would be fine for titles like Metroid, but it does not however belong in Zelda. For starters, giving characters a voice will not leave a lot of room for our imaginations, and storytelling in Zelda has and should always leave room for our imagination. Furthermore, A player reads much faster than a voice actor acts, then there is the whole thing of naming Link. Oh and dont forget how some lines, while working as written text would sound awkward if verbally pronounced. Zelda works better without voice acting, an if they should ever add voice acting for whatever reason it should be in Hylian and in Hylian only. Adding english voice acting would only detract from the experience.

[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="GD1551"]

Apparently GTAV is going to be a Wii U timed exclusive to help promote it?

Nintendo_Ownes7

[QUOTE="Nintendo_Ownes7"]

[QUOTE="charizard1605"] What? Where did you hear that?charizard1605

Now let me say that if nintendo is actually able to offer alot of content with their DLC, I'd be all for it. As it is right now their games aren't exactly hurting for it though.Shinobishyguy

[QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"]Now let me say that if nintendo is actually able to offer alot of content with their DLC, I'd be all for it. As it is right now their games aren't exactly hurting for it though.charizard1605

Wait, pokemon has free DLC?

[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"]Now let me say that if nintendo is actually able to offer alot of content with their DLC, I'd be all for it. As it is right now their games aren't exactly hurting for it though.Maroxad

What free DLC does Pokemon have? Sorry for asking, but I havent played Black and White and I assume it is those that get the free DLC.

I remember hearing rumors months ago, like back when the Wii U was known as Project cafe that grand theft auto would be a launch title. If its true or not, we have to wait and see. Personally, I hope its true. Though a timed exclusive? Even though that will probably force alot of people to buy the Wii U, I hope its not a timed exclusive. Because, what will happen when they beat the game? What if we get another GTA IV? That game didnt take long to beat and didnt really have that many perks for continuing to play even after you beat the story. The Wii U needs a launch title that will hold people over till more "core"/great games come out. If GTA V is a timed exclusive, it has to have replay value and or be really addictive, or else we will see people on the forums saying "My Wii U is collecting dust, Im thinking about selling it."

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[QUOTE="charizard1605"] I dunno. Consider how they already offer some pretty great DLC (albeit free) for Pokemon, I can see how, if they were ever to do downloadable content, they'd do it properly. Moreover, I can see games like Super Smash Bros and Mario Kart benefiting greatly from the ability to add on content via DLC, as well as games like Animal Crossing and Wii Sports.charizard1605

What free DLC does Pokemon have? Sorry for asking, but I havent played Black and White and I assume it is those that get the free DLC.

Oh, I see thanks for clearing that up. It is nice that they dont charge for this, like a certain company that known as EA would. Actually I would be greatly for if Nintendo would offer free dlc for all their games like SSB and the likes. Contrary to popular belief, making free content for your game can actually result in profit. How? Because free content is an excellent way to market your game, especially with all the games these days that milk DLC for all its worth.

Now that I think of it, didnt Animal Crossing: Wild World get free content as well?

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[QUOTE="charizard1605"] What? Where did you hear that?charizard1605

This. Rockstar would be stupid to limit the audience of a huge blockbuster title to a system that has yet to even have a userbase.

[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="Maroxad"]

What free DLC does Pokemon have? Sorry for asking, but I havent played Black and White and I assume it is those that get the free DLC.

Maroxad

Oh, I see thanks for clearing that up. It is nice that they dont charge for this, like a certain company that known as EA would. Actually I would be greatly for if Nintendo would offer free dlc for all their games like SSB and the likes. Contrary to popular belief, making free content for your game can actually result in profit. How? Because free content is an excellent way to market your game, especially with all the games these days that milk DLC for all its worth.

Now that I think of it, didnt Animal Crossing: Wild World get free content as well?

Such a weird console.

New Pokemon game? Assuming it's part of the main series then I'm in. :D

New Pokemon game? Assuming it's part of the main series then I'm in. :D

timmy00

[QUOTE="GD1551"]

Apparently GTAV is going to be a Wii U timed exclusive to help promote it?

charizard1605

It's just a rumour going around. BTW nintendo's stocks drop 17% or something of that level yesterday I believe.

[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="GD1551"]

Apparently GTAV is going to be a Wii U timed exclusive to help promote it?

GD1551

It's just a rumour going around. BTW nintendo's stocks drop 17% or something of that level yesterday I believe.

Ah, okay. Like I said though, it doesn't make any sense, I highly doubt it will happen. It might release on the Wii U too, but I do not see it being exclusive, timed or otherwise, at all. Anyway, can you link me to the 17% drop? I'll post it on SW if I get a link to it.charizard1605

LMAO nvm I was looking at RIM's stock haha.

[QUOTE="locopatho"][QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"]Way to ignore how I acknowleged that DLC is good when done right :?

And I love how you automatically jump to making generalizations about nintendo fans like you always do. Really says alot

Shinobishyguy

Hell look a From software with Dark souls. No DLC but it doesn't need it becasue it's already packed to the brim with content.

Yet Nintendo goes by this philosophy and we have you whining and moaning about how you want them to "get with the times"

Dark Souls as a complete game COULD get DLC, and that'd be great. Because it's already a complete game, with the option for more if you want it.

[QUOTE="locopatho"][QUOTE="Maroxad"]

Oh my. Dragon Age Origins was not a complete game. Dragon Age Origins is one of the worst offenders of DLC abuse, remember the whole controversy regaring the in game advertising of day 1 DLC?Not to mention the quality of the DLC as well was pretty... low.

Nintendo promised though that while they do support DLC now, they wont add it themselves, which I am very pleased about. Although, I wouldnt complain if they added free DLC.

Maroxad

The fact that content was stripped from the game and sold as DLC on day 1, heck the content was even advertised ingame. This link is NSFW.

Oh boy, I could mention a long list of why Dragon Age Origins was a terrible game, why it is a cesspool of poor design choices, lazy design and awful writing. But I dont want to derail this topic.

P.S: Zelda shouldnt have voice acting because it just doesnt fit its design. It would be fine for titles like Metroid, but it does not however belong in Zelda. For starters, giving characters a voice will not leave a lot of room for our imaginations, and storytelling in Zelda has and should always leave room for our imagination. Furthermore, A player reads much faster than a voice actor acts, then there is the whole thing of naming Link. Oh and dont forget how some lines, while working as written text would sound awkward if verbally pronounced. Zelda works better without voice acting, an if they should ever add voice acting for whatever reason it should be in Hylian and in Hylian only. Adding english voice acting would only detract from the experience.