no 360 game can beat the cars realisim and detail of GT5

u can barely even tell real life from ingame cars

maybe when xbox1080 comes, youll be close to those graphics

Just before the trolls come in, he's not talking about anything but the graphics.

YAY!

Graphically, perhaps. Gameplay wise, Forza 2 annihilated Gran Turismo.Ninja-Vox

Well that was bound to happen. Another GT5 damage thread.

Guess u missed the comparison between this n GT4, theres no difference except the 3D runoff burms!! lol at u TCOpticalCanine

oh god...more people in denial that GT5 is the best looking racing sim...

[QUOTE="OpticalCanine"]Guess u missed the comparison between this n GT4, theres no difference except the 3D runoff burms!! lol at u TCArsenal325

oh god...more people in denial that GT5 is the best looking racing sim...

would you rather have the "best looking" or "best playing" racing sim?

[QUOTE="OpticalCanine"]Guess u missed the comparison between this n GT4, theres no difference except the 3D runoff burms!! lol at u TCArsenal325

oh god...more people in denial that GT5 is the best looking racing sim...

If people seriously believe GT5 looks exactly like GT4 except for that, then wow.

GT5= Best graphics ever...I Agree

But u never know...Forza 3 might turn out better...

gt5 best looking racing game period

the king is back like it or not

[QUOTE="OpticalCanine"]Guess u missed the comparison between this n GT4, theres no difference except the 3D runoff burms!! lol at u TCArsenal325

oh god...more people in denial that GT5 is the best looking racing sim...

seriously if u have functional eyes u cant deny its the best looking racing game ever.... i saw a thread where someone posted pics of jaggies! omg who cares they didnt come close to the amount of jaggies in forza 2 which i own...that game has the most jaggies on any next gen game ive seen yet

gt5 best looking racing game period

the king is back like it or not

legalize3

So how does it play? I'm dying to know..

Graphically, perhaps. Gameplay wise, Forza 2 annihilated Gran Turismo.Ninja-Vox

ill take a sim racer which takes skills to play like GT5, over a "lets put pictures on mah car!1!11" arcade game like forza2

Just before the trolls come in, he's not talking about anything but the graphics.

YAY!

NobuoMusicMaker

That's all they ever talk about, even though gameplay and content are more important. lol!! At least GT5 can be played online now. That's my only real reason to buy it. Otherwise the game will be the same as GT4 with better graphics. :roll:

[QUOTE="OpticalCanine"]Guess u missed the comparison between this n GT4, theres no difference except the 3D runoff burms!! lol at u TCArsenal325

oh god...more people in denial that GT5 is the best looking racing sim...

It's how it plays that's more important. If it plays exactly like GT4, they it's not even worth it. PGR4 looks pretty close to GT5.

[QUOTE="legalize3"]

gt5 best looking racing game period

the king is back like it or not

OhSnapitz

So how does it play? I'm dying to know..

it probably plays like the 4 previous gran turismos - very well and hugely satisfying, even without damage. once you get good at a racing game damage becomes irrelevant anyway.

i like forza but i have a soft spot for gran turismo because i grew up with it.

whether gt5 will be better than whichever forza incarnation it's up against is yet to be seen but i'm certain it will deliver all the great things gran turismo has delivered before - stunning looking cars on equally stunning looking tracks. crash damage (or lack of it)doesn't bother me in the slightest

No Damage Modeling = Bumper car sim with good graphics

Congrats Cows!:lol:

No Damage Modeling = Bumper car sim with good graphics

Congrats Cows!:lol:

jessesalinas

it doesn't have damage?? LOL

welcome to 2002

No Damage Modeling = Bumper car sim with good graphics

Congrats Cows!:lol:

jessesalinas

not at all. no damage modelling = not such a massive loss when you consider the main aspect of the game is trying to avoid crashing. if you simply play forza to plough into opponents and watch bumpers fall off then you're not really playing the game as it was intended. crash damage becomes a frustrating chore after cooing at the first few collisions you experience

Hell yeah by a long shot, no Xbox 360 game will ever match to that game. I never played Forza 2 yet but I heard it's great in gameplay and the graphics are enjoyable, but yes I agree no Xbox 360 game will produce any greater detail than GT5. Congrats

[QUOTE="Ninja-Vox"]Graphically, perhaps. Gameplay wise, Forza 2 annihilated Gran Turismo.Nokia_N95

ill take a sim racer which takes skills to play like GT5, over a "lets put pictures on mah car!1!11" arcade game like forza2

It is apparent you have never played Forza. There is no way that Forza is "arcadey" when compared to GT.

[QUOTE="jessesalinas"]

No Damage Modeling = Bumper car sim with good graphics

Congrats Cows!:lol:

my_name_is_ron

not at all. no damage modelling = not such a massive loss when you consider the main aspect of the game is trying to avoid crashing. if you simply play forza to plough into opponents and watch bumpers fall off then you're not really playing the game as it was intended. crash damage becomes a frustrating chore after cooing at the first few collisions you experience

The Bad

• Racing opponent AI is as dumb as ever
• Lack of damage modeling encourages sloppy driving
• Musical soundtrack is hit or miss
• B-spec mode: huh?
• No online

"Bumper car racing, so called because you use the artificially intelligent opponent cars as "bumpers" to scrub off speed and help position your car around tight turns, is alive and well in GT4. Heading too fast into right-hand turn one at Tokyo Route 246? Simply dive to the inside of the car in front of you, and watch in amazement as you not only make it around the curve unscathed, but also likely gain a position doing so."

Even Gamespot called GT a bumper car sim..lolol

up next...GT5:lol:

[QUOTE="Nokia_N95"]

[QUOTE="Ninja-Vox"]Graphically, perhaps. Gameplay wise, Forza 2 annihilated Gran Turismo.HolyHandGrenad3

ill take a sim racer which takes skills to play like GT5, over a "lets put pictures on mah car!1!11" arcade game like forza2

It is apparent you have never played Forza. There is no way that Forza is "arcadey" when compared to GT.

i went to my friends to played forza2 and and beat every match i played..its too easy... GT actually takes skill.. go play GT:HD.. see how well you drift..lol

[QUOTE="Ninja-Vox"]Graphically, perhaps. Gameplay wise, Forza 2 annihilated Gran Turismo.Nokia_N95

ill take a sim racer which takes skills to play like GT5, over a "lets put pictures on mah car!1!11" arcade game like forza2

:|.......:lol: wow, that was hilarious.

GT4 Review

The Bad

• Racing opponent AI is as dumb as ever
• Lack of damage modeling encourages sloppy driving
• Musical soundtrack is hit or miss
• B-spec mode: huh?
• No online

"Bumper car racing, so called because you use the artificially intelligent opponent cars as "bumpers" to scrub off speed and help position your car around tight turns, is alive and well in GT4. Heading too fast into right-hand turn one at Tokyo Route 246? Simply dive to the inside of the car in front of you, and watch in amazement as you not only make it around the curve unscathed, but also likely gain a position doing so."

Even Gamespot called GT a bumper car sim..lolol

up next...GT5:lol:

jessesalinas

Dang, I don't usually say this but......OWNED.

[QUOTE="jessesalinas"]

GT4 Review

The Bad

• Racing opponent AI is as dumb as ever
• Lack of damage modeling encourages sloppy driving
• Musical soundtrack is hit or miss
• B-spec mode: huh?
• No online

"Bumper car racing, so called because you use the artificially intelligent opponent cars as "bumpers" to scrub off speed and help position your car around tight turns, is alive and well in GT4. Heading too fast into right-hand turn one at Tokyo Route 246? Simply dive to the inside of the car in front of you, and watch in amazement as you not only make it around the curve unscathed, but also likely gain a position doing so."

Even Gamespot called GT a bumper car sim..lolol

up next...GT5:lol:

Spartan070

Dang, I don't usually say this but......OWNED.

[QUOTE="HolyHandGrenad3"][QUOTE="Nokia_N95"]

[QUOTE="Ninja-Vox"]Graphically, perhaps. Gameplay wise, Forza 2 annihilated Gran Turismo.Arsenal325

ill take a sim racer which takes skills to play like GT5, over a "lets put pictures on mah car!1!11" arcade game like forza2

It is apparent you have never played Forza. There is no way that Forza is "arcadey" when compared to GT.

i went to my friends to played forza2 and and beat every match i played..its too easy... GT actually takes skill.. go play GT:HD.. see how well you drift..lol

omg lyk i went to mah buds house to play it and it was like way too easy.

See, I can make false claims too. :D

[QUOTE="Spartan070"][QUOTE="jessesalinas"]

GT4 Review

The Bad

• Racing opponent AI is as dumb as ever
• Lack of damage modeling encourages sloppy driving
• Musical soundtrack is hit or miss
• B-spec mode: huh?
• No online

"Bumper car racing, so called because you use the artificially intelligent opponent cars as "bumpers" to scrub off speed and help position your car around tight turns, is alive and well in GT4. Heading too fast into right-hand turn one at Tokyo Route 246? Simply dive to the inside of the car in front of you, and watch in amazement as you not only make it around the curve unscathed, but also likely gain a position doing so."

Even Gamespot called GT a bumper car sim..lolol

up next...GT5:lol:

jessesalinas

Dang, I don't usually say this but......OWNED.

didnt ign give it a 9.5? umm.. i dotn see where ownage is.. i do see ownage in GT5 20 player online and in car view!!! MWHAHAHAHAHA who needs damage when you have in car view not even looking at the car... plus forza2 doesnt even do damage right.. last time i checked when someone plows into a wall at 100 miles per hour, they dont just get a scratch on their car.. THATS OWANGE

[QUOTE="my_name_is_ron"][QUOTE="jessesalinas"]

No Damage Modeling = Bumper car sim with good graphics

Congrats Cows!:lol:

jessesalinas

not at all. no damage modelling = not such a massive loss when you consider the main aspect of the game is trying to avoid crashing. if you simply play forza to plough into opponents and watch bumpers fall off then you're not really playing the game as it was intended. crash damage becomes a frustrating chore after cooing at the first few collisions you experience

The Bad

• Racing opponent AI is as dumb as ever
• Lack of damage modeling encourages sloppy driving
• Musical soundtrack is hit or miss
• B-spec mode: huh?
• No online

"Bumper car racing, so called because you use the artificially intelligent opponent cars as "bumpers" to scrub off speed and help position your car around tight turns, is alive and well in GT4. Heading too fast into right-hand turn one at Tokyo Route 246? Simply dive to the inside of the car in front of you, and watch in amazement as you not only make it around the curve unscathed, but also likely gain a position doing so."

Even Gamespot called GT a bumper car sim..lolol

up next...GT5:lol:

you can do the exact same thing in forza! you only have to be slightly more delicate with it. besides, like i've said in my previous posts, if you have or develop any kind of skill by playing racing games the need for playing bumper cars with your opponents goes out of the window in favour of actually passing people and taking corners properly. the ability to play bumper cars is completely up to the player. much like choosing to use the damage and custom paintjobs in forza.

people really should play racing games to race, not to crash, play bumper cars or paint your car

[QUOTE="jessesalinas"][QUOTE="my_name_is_ron"][QUOTE="jessesalinas"]

No Damage Modeling = Bumper car sim with good graphics

Congrats Cows!:lol:

my_name_is_ron

people really should play racing games to race, not to crash, play bumper cars or paint your car

you obviously didnt read my post

NO Damage Modeling encourages sloppy driving..:|

Keyword: Sloppy Driving

Enjoy GT5:lol:

[QUOTE="jessesalinas"][QUOTE="Spartan070"][QUOTE="jessesalinas"]

GT4 Review

The Bad

• Racing opponent AI is as dumb as ever
• Lack of damage modeling encourages sloppy driving
• Musical soundtrack is hit or miss
• B-spec mode: huh?
• No online

"Bumper car racing, so called because you use the artificially intelligent opponent cars as "bumpers" to scrub off speed and help position your car around tight turns, is alive and well in GT4. Heading too fast into right-hand turn one at Tokyo Route 246? Simply dive to the inside of the car in front of you, and watch in amazement as you not only make it around the curve unscathed, but also likely gain a position doing so."

Even Gamespot called GT a bumper car sim..lolol

up next...GT5:lol:

Arsenal325

Dang, I don't usually say this but......OWNED.

didnt ign give it a 9.5? umm.. i dotn see where ownage is.. i do see ownage in GT5 20 player online and in car view!!! MWHAHAHAHAHA who needs damage when you have in car view not even looking at the car... plus forza2 doesnt even do damage right.. last time i checked when someone plows into a wall at 100 miles per hour, they dont just get a scratch on their car.. THATS OWANGE

Yeah it's too bad you don't "just get a scratch" after plowing into a wall at 100 mph in Forza. And last time I checked when someone plows into a wall at 100 mph they don't come out unscathed. ;)

[QUOTE="jessesalinas"][QUOTE="Spartan070"][QUOTE="jessesalinas"]

GT4 Review

The Bad

• Racing opponent AI is as dumb as ever
• Lack of damage modeling encourages sloppy driving
• Musical soundtrack is hit or miss
• B-spec mode: huh?
• No online

"Bumper car racing, so called because you use the artificially intelligent opponent cars as "bumpers" to scrub off speed and help position your car around tight turns, is alive and well in GT4. Heading too fast into right-hand turn one at Tokyo Route 246? Simply dive to the inside of the car in front of you, and watch in amazement as you not only make it around the curve unscathed, but also likely gain a position doing so."

Even Gamespot called GT a bumper car sim..lolol

up next...GT5:lol:

Arsenal325

Dang, I don't usually say this but......OWNED.

didnt ign give it a 9.5? umm.. i dotn see where ownage is.. i do see ownage in GT5 20 player online and in car view!!! MWHAHAHAHAHA who needs damage when you have in car view not even looking at the car... plus forza2 doesnt even do damage right.. last time i checked when someone plows into a wall at 100 miles per hour, they dont just get a scratch on their car.. THATS OWANGE

self-owned

and welcome to gamespot

[QUOTE="Spartan070"][QUOTE="jessesalinas"]

GT4 Review

The Bad

• Racing opponent AI is as dumb as ever
• Lack of damage modeling encourages sloppy driving
• Musical soundtrack is hit or miss
• B-spec mode: huh?
• No online

"Bumper car racing, so called because you use the artificially intelligent opponent cars as "bumpers" to scrub off speed and help position your car around tight turns, is alive and well in GT4. Heading too fast into right-hand turn one at Tokyo Route 246? Simply dive to the inside of the car in front of you, and watch in amazement as you not only make it around the curve unscathed, but also likely gain a position doing so."

Even Gamespot called GT a bumper car sim..lolol

up next...GT5:lol:

jessesalinas

Dang, I don't usually say this but......OWNED.

well, not really owned. nowhere in that review extract does gamespot call gt a bumper car sim. all they say is that a cheap tactic exists where you can go up the inside of opponents to cheaply take the corners and gain places. this tactic has existed in all racing games since they went 3d

[QUOTE="jessesalinas"][QUOTE="Spartan070"][QUOTE="jessesalinas"]

GT4 Review

The Bad

• Racing opponent AI is as dumb as ever
• Lack of damage modeling encourages sloppy driving
• Musical soundtrack is hit or miss
• B-spec mode: huh?
• No online

"Bumper car racing, so called because you use the artificially intelligent opponent cars as "bumpers" to scrub off speed and help position your car around tight turns, is alive and well in GT4. Heading too fast into right-hand turn one at Tokyo Route 246? Simply dive to the inside of the car in front of you, and watch in amazement as you not only make it around the curve unscathed, but also likely gain a position doing so."

Even Gamespot called GT a bumper car sim..lolol

up next...GT5:lol:

my_name_is_ron

Dang, I don't usually say this but......OWNED.

well, not really owned. nowhere in that review extract does gamespot call gt a bumper car sim. all they say is that a cheap tactic exists where you can go up the inside of opponents to cheaply take the corners and gain places. this tactic has existed in all racing games since they went 3d

Bumper car racing = bumper car sim

you use other cars as bumpers to get around turns:|

you obviously didnt read my post

NO Damage Modeling encourages sloppy driving..:|

Keyword: Sloppy Driving

Enjoy GT5:lol:

jessesalinas

you can also say the same for damage modelling in forza. people are going to want to see this fabled damage modelling and so are going to drive sloppily to crash and to see a bumper fall off the same way time and time again. don't get me wrong, i like forza, but i dont play racing games to damage my car. i play them to win and with that in mind i prefer the physics, handling, driving style and selection of cars & tracksof gran turismo

[QUOTE="my_name_is_ron"][QUOTE="jessesalinas"]

No Damage Modeling = Bumper car sim with good graphics

Congrats Cows!:lol:

jessesalinas

not at all. no damage modelling = not such a massive loss when you consider the main aspect of the game is trying to avoid crashing. if you simply play forza to plough into opponents and watch bumpers fall off then you're not really playing the game as it was intended. crash damage becomes a frustrating chore after cooing at the first few collisions you experience

The Bad

• Racing opponent AI is as dumb as ever
• Lack of damage modeling encourages sloppy driving
• Musical soundtrack is hit or miss
• B-spec mode: huh?
• No online

"Bumper car racing, so called because you use the artificially intelligent opponent cars as "bumpers" to scrub off speed and help position your car around tight turns, is alive and well in GT4. Heading too fast into right-hand turn one at Tokyo Route 246? Simply dive to the inside of the car in front of you, and watch in amazement as you not only make it around the curve unscathed, but also likely gain a position doing so."

Even Gamespot called GT a bumper car sim..lolol

up next...GT5:lol:

Haha you just owned that GT5 Fan. It has got to be said.

Also I agree that it's the best looking car sim to date, no doubt (even if it has shoddy physics and no damage modelling) but the best looking game ever? You have got to be kidding me. That's one of the most outrageous claims ever made in the history of mankind.

[QUOTE="jessesalinas"]you obviously didnt read my post

NO Damage Modeling encourages sloppy driving..:|

Keyword: Sloppy Driving

Enjoy GT5:lol:

my_name_is_ron

you can also say the same for damage modelling in forza. people are going to want to see this fabled damage modelling and so are going to drive sloppily to crash and to see a bumper fall off the same way time and time again. don't get me wrong, i like forza, but i dont play racing games to damage my car. i play them to win and with that in mind i prefer the physics, handling and driving style of gran turismo

lets use your logic.

lets take dying out of gaming because you're not supposed to die :|

They called it bumper car Racing.:|

Bumper car racing = bumper car sim

you use other cars as bumpers to get around turns:|

jessesalinas

which you can do in just about every other racing game in existense. if you wanted to play bumper cars in forza all you have to do is turn the damage to 'off' or 'cosmetic'. does that mean forza is a bumper car sim too?

I dont play racing to crash either.:|

lets use your logic.

lets take dying out of gaming because you're not supposed to die :|

jessesalinas

now you're just being silly

[QUOTE="jessesalinas"][QUOTE="my_name_is_ron"][QUOTE="jessesalinas"]

No Damage Modeling = Bumper car sim with good graphics

Congrats Cows!:lol:

Driftwood111

not at all. no damage modelling = not such a massive loss when you consider the main aspect of the game is trying to avoid crashing. if you simply play forza to plough into opponents and watch bumpers fall off then you're not really playing the game as it was intended. crash damage becomes a frustrating chore after cooing at the first few collisions you experience

The Bad

• Racing opponent AI is as dumb as ever
• Lack of damage modeling encourages sloppy driving
• Musical soundtrack is hit or miss
• B-spec mode: huh?
• No online

"Bumper car racing, so called because you use the artificially intelligent opponent cars as "bumpers" to scrub off speed and help position your car around tight turns, is alive and well in GT4. Heading too fast into right-hand turn one at Tokyo Route 246? Simply dive to the inside of the car in front of you, and watch in amazement as you not only make it around the curve unscathed, but also likely gain a position doing so."

Even Gamespot called GT a bumper car sim..lolol

up next...GT5:lol:

Haha you just owned that GT5 Fan. It has got to be said.

Also I agree that it's the best looking car sim to date, no doubt (even if it has shoddy physics and no damage modelling) but the best looking game ever? You have got to be kidding me. That's one of the most outrageous claims ever made in the history of mankind.

i only have one of these,one of you cows can have it

[QUOTE="jessesalinas"]I dont play racing to crash either.:|

lets use your logic.

lets take dying out of gaming because you're not supposed to die :|

my_name_is_ron

now you're just being silly

damage is needed..even gamespot says this.:|

gamespot >>>>>you

[QUOTE="jessesalinas"]They called it bumper car Racing.:|

Bumper car racing = bumper car sim

you use other cars as bumpers to get around turns:|

my_name_is_ron

which you can do in just about every other racing game in existense. if you wanted to play bumper cars in forza all you have to do is turn the damage to 'off' or 'cosmetic'. does that mean forza is a bumper car sim too?

If you always turn damage to cosmetic or off, then yes you are.

[QUOTE="Driftwood111"][QUOTE="jessesalinas"][QUOTE="my_name_is_ron"][QUOTE="jessesalinas"]

No Damage Modeling = Bumper car sim with good graphics

Congrats Cows!:lol:

jessesalinas

not at all. no damage modelling = not such a massive loss when you consider the main aspect of the game is trying to avoid crashing. if you simply play forza to plough into opponents and watch bumpers fall off then you're not really playing the game as it was intended. crash damage becomes a frustrating chore after cooing at the first few collisions you experience

The Bad

• Racing opponent AI is as dumb as ever
• Lack of damage modeling encourages sloppy driving
• Musical soundtrack is hit or miss
• B-spec mode: huh?
• No online

"Bumper car racing, so called because you use the artificially intelligent opponent cars as "bumpers" to scrub off speed and help position your car around tight turns, is alive and well in GT4. Heading too fast into right-hand turn one at Tokyo Route 246? Simply dive to the inside of the car in front of you, and watch in amazement as you not only make it around the curve unscathed, but also likely gain a position doing so."

Even Gamespot called GT a bumper car sim..lolol

up next...GT5:lol:

Haha you just owned that GT5 Fan. It has got to be said.

Also I agree that it's the best looking car sim to date, no doubt (even if it has shoddy physics and no damage modelling) but the best looking game ever? You have got to be kidding me. That's one of the most outrageous claims ever made in the history of mankind.

i only have one of these,one of you cows can have it

Hahaha,

Oh lord, there is a damn good reason why you have Dog the Bounty hunter in your Avatar. You rock, keep it up man.